Why is birth control/contraception wrong?
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loolalooh
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This is a good question. I would like to hear what others say as well.
I, personally, view birth control/contraception as wrong in most cases. (There may be medical exceptions, but I don't have any in mind right now.) This belief is due to the conviction that it is a selfish act. In general, one who uses birth control/contraception wants to engage in the pleasure of sex while blocking one of God's purposes for sex - procreation. I've heard some married/unmarried women say "Well, I'm not ready for children." To the unmarried women, my response would be "Save sex until marriage." To the married women, my response would be "God will determine whether/when you are ready. That is not for you to prevent on your own."
God doesn't make mistakes. If He doesn't want a child to be conceived, He will block it. Not every act of sex results in conception. That is God's doing. I feel like we take God's role out of the equation when we introduce birth control/contraception.
Psalms 127:
3 Children are a heritage from the LORD,
offspring a reward from him.
4 Like arrows in the hands of a warrior
are children born in one’s youth.
5 Blessed is the man
whose quiver is full of them.
They will not be put to shame
when they contend with their opponents in court.
Again, there may be instances (particularly medical) of birth control/contraception that do not fall under this.
I, personally, view birth control/contraception as wrong in most cases. (There may be medical exceptions, but I don't have any in mind right now.) This belief is due to the conviction that it is a selfish act. In general, one who uses birth control/contraception wants to engage in the pleasure of sex while blocking one of God's purposes for sex - procreation. I've heard some married/unmarried women say "Well, I'm not ready for children." To the unmarried women, my response would be "Save sex until marriage." To the married women, my response would be "God will determine whether/when you are ready. That is not for you to prevent on your own."
God doesn't make mistakes. If He doesn't want a child to be conceived, He will block it. Not every act of sex results in conception. That is God's doing. I feel like we take God's role out of the equation when we introduce birth control/contraception.
Psalms 127:
3 Children are a heritage from the LORD,
offspring a reward from him.
4 Like arrows in the hands of a warrior
are children born in one’s youth.
5 Blessed is the man
whose quiver is full of them.
They will not be put to shame
when they contend with their opponents in court.
Again, there may be instances (particularly medical) of birth control/contraception that do not fall under this.
Rainbow Dash
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When my husband and I got married we decided to wait 5 years before children but God had a different plan. I got pregnant on the pill twice. I don't know if it is wrong to use birth control. In some cases it seems wise to stop, especially if you are having kids you can't take care of. After my third child, my doctor recommended that I not have any more kids. Having more kids would put my life and the child's life in danger. So we got fixed.
loolalooh
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The same thing happened with my mother. She got pregnant with me while on the pill.
My sister had a similar situation - i.e., God having a different plan. She was on the pill for a couple years which eventually caused her to develop a cyst on her ovary. The doctor told her to get off the pill. Her and her husband wanted to wait before having children (hence why she was on the pill). After being forced off the pill, they conceived immediately. They switched their plan to God's plan.
Guitarhero
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For catholics, it means preventing the natural progression of marital sex which is to fully allow new life to come. We were commanded to be fruitful and multiply and in marriage, the partners must be open to children.
LadyChe
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Interesting topic. How do anti bc believers feel about contraceptives for people with fibroids, heavy periods, endo or other uterine issues? Extremely mentally disabled people? Are there considerations in which a married couple can decide not to have more children for any reason?
I really am curious.
I really am curious.
Bb92
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So for the married couple who aren't ready to have childen, would they have to wait to have sex until they are ready to have kids? I mean more likely than not a woman is going to get pregnant when she has sex...So basically my question is for the people who don't want a huge family (10+ kids) what do they do? I know children are a blessing, but I am not trying to raise a school of kids!
aribell
formerly nicola.kirwan
Natural family planning works. People don't have to have as many children as nature allows. God does give us some measure of choice in the matter.
Hormonal birth control is believed to essentially cause abortions in some instances, which is why many non-Catholic Christians are against it.
Hormonal birth control is believed to essentially cause abortions in some instances, which is why many non-Catholic Christians are against it.
LucieLoo12
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Well 
When I first gave my life to Christ I use to think that birth control was wrong thats because I had no understanding of it. People always say the bible says "Be fruitful and multiply" but it only says that like 2-3 times in the bible and that was when the earth was first being inhabitated. So now the earth is FULLY populated, overly really, so its not a commandment to have a whole lot of children.Now they are cases where a woman was on some type of birth control and she still got pregnant. Well if thats happens, well hey Glory to God. But it is nothing wrong with a woman taking precautions. If you have a husband and a wife that only makes $32,000/year and can't afford children, I would rather them take the steps to prevent pregnancy until they are financially stable verses them bringing kids into this world they cant afford to take care of. But sometimes people have a whole lot of kids and say this will was the of God, and for some it may be. But if you have unprotected sex pregnancy will be the outcome. You should just use wisdom. Like this women on TV with these 20 kids. She almost died her last two pregnancy and just had a miscarriage. Now by no means am I trying to talk down about this woman. But her health and life is in jeproady.The bible says God maketh rich and added no sorrow to it.
So if people dont want to use birth control with their spouse, thats fine. And for the ones who do, thats fine too... no one is wrong...
When I first gave my life to Christ I use to think that birth control was wrong thats because I had no understanding of it. People always say the bible says "Be fruitful and multiply" but it only says that like 2-3 times in the bible and that was when the earth was first being inhabitated. So now the earth is FULLY populated, overly really, so its not a commandment to have a whole lot of children.Now they are cases where a woman was on some type of birth control and she still got pregnant. Well if thats happens, well hey Glory to God. But it is nothing wrong with a woman taking precautions. If you have a husband and a wife that only makes $32,000/year and can't afford children, I would rather them take the steps to prevent pregnancy until they are financially stable verses them bringing kids into this world they cant afford to take care of. But sometimes people have a whole lot of kids and say this will was the of God, and for some it may be. But if you have unprotected sex pregnancy will be the outcome. You should just use wisdom. Like this women on TV with these 20 kids. She almost died her last two pregnancy and just had a miscarriage. Now by no means am I trying to talk down about this woman. But her health and life is in jeproady.The bible says God maketh rich and added no sorrow to it.
So if people dont want to use birth control with their spouse, thats fine. And for the ones who do, thats fine too... no one is wrong...
Prudent1
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marking my spot... **in my best Arnold Schwarzenegger imitation** "I'll be back."
Ok, another awesome topic
. Here is what I believe God to have shared with me over the years. My understanding is not a one size fits all. It is a different POV. I KNOW we should all seek God 1st period. That includes asking him about bc and matters of fertility even though that is very unpopular and goes against everything society teaches us as girls. Bottom line our bodies are not our own. They were bought with a price. We are supposed to offer our bodies as living sacrifices. Sorry gals, that includes our wombs
. If you are serving God and you and the Hubs don't want kids or only want a certain amount after you've made your requests know to God do I think he'll ignore you? No but how many ever bother to seek him in this very sensitive area? What if he said something we didn't want to hear? We Christian women are good at not hearing what we don't like
I'll attempt to explain more with my comments below.
Extremely mentally disabled ppl? Who determines what constitutes the title? Are these disabled ppl out just gettin it all willy nilly? Who is sexin the extremely disabled? I think that's a slippery slope- extremely disabled label. The definition can change too easily IMO. I'm not saying it doesn't happen but if someone violates an extremely disabled person and they conceive or fertilize someone, then God still decides when to create a living soul. We still can only speculate as to the worthiness of that human life. That is not something we need to do. BTW, someone who took advantage of the disabled needs to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law no different than a rapist.
Yes, a married couple can decide to not have any more children. They should pray 1st and seek God though. Just as ppl pray asking God for children I see nothing wrong with praying asking God for no more children, no children, or a certain amount of children. The point is to pray to God though- not just decide y'all don't want any of the above situations. That's what I don't see a lot of couples doing praying, fasting, seeking 1st. We are to pray at all times about all things. That includes fertility.
Ok, I'll continue in another post. The computer tells me I'm over my word limit
**in my best Arnold Schwarzenegger imitation** "I'll be back."Ok, another awesome topic
. Here is what I believe God to have shared with me over the years. My understanding is not a one size fits all. It is a different POV. I KNOW we should all seek God 1st period. That includes asking him about bc and matters of fertility even though that is very unpopular and goes against everything society teaches us as girls. Bottom line our bodies are not our own. They were bought with a price. We are supposed to offer our bodies as living sacrifices. Sorry gals, that includes our wombs. If you are serving God and you and the Hubs don't want kids or only want a certain amount after you've made your requests know to God do I think he'll ignore you? No but how many ever bother to seek him in this very sensitive area? What if he said something we didn't want to hear? We Christian women are good at not hearing what we don't like I'll attempt to explain more with my comments below.All excellent and very valid points. If you have medical conditions as such, 1st pray for your healing. While you are standing in faith and waiting on it to manifest, by all means take advantage of the medical expertise available to you. Just remember all drugs, any drugs have potential side effects. Just b/c they don't show up immediately doesn't mean they aren't there. Remember you have a duty to take care of your temple as best you can. Sometimes believers have a horrible diet, don't exercise, don't see a doc regularly, don't get enough sleep, etc but want to take a pill+pray to fix things w/o putting forth much effort on their own. God has a part and we have a part. We should be working together. Don't you hate it when someone at work or your kids don't do their part but come to you with hands wide open anyway?
Extremely mentally disabled ppl? Who determines what constitutes the title? Are these disabled ppl out just gettin it all willy nilly? Who is sexin the extremely disabled? I think that's a slippery slope- extremely disabled label. The definition can change too easily IMO. I'm not saying it doesn't happen but if someone violates an extremely disabled person and they conceive or fertilize someone, then God still decides when to create a living soul. We still can only speculate as to the worthiness of that human life. That is not something we need to do. BTW, someone who took advantage of the disabled needs to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law no different than a rapist.
Yes, a married couple can decide to not have any more children. They should pray 1st and seek God though. Just as ppl pray asking God for children I see nothing wrong with praying asking God for no more children, no children, or a certain amount of children. The point is to pray to God though- not just decide y'all don't want any of the above situations. That's what I don't see a lot of couples doing praying, fasting, seeking 1st. We are to pray at all times about all things. That includes fertility.
LOL- Yeah, I wouldn't want a school of kids either. Nor would I only have sex when I was ready to procreate. That is a recipe for divorce since God desires true intimacy between spouses and one of the ways he accomplishes that is through sex. Nicola answered that though NFP does work w/o all of the drug side effects.
Ok, I'll continue in another post. The computer tells me I'm over my word limit
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LucieLoo12
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Now the whole tubes getting tied I am against this. You are altering you bodies natural form. Now if this is needed for health reason, then ok. But just be tying and cuting tubes because the persons just wants to, I dont agree.
You are altering you bodies natural form. Now if this is needed for health reason, then ok. But just be tying and cuting tubes because the persons just wants to, I dont agree.
LucieLoo12
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Me personally, if I get married I will be on some type of BC because 1). I want atleast 3-4 years alone with my husband knowing him and becoming one with him. 2). Want to make sure Im stable spiritually and financially enough to have a child 3). Its still some things I would like to before children.
But if I take the precautions and still get preggie, GLORY!
But if I take the precautions and still get preggie, GLORY!
Iwanthealthyhair67
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How effective is the rythm method aren't married Chrisitians practising that, it's natural and healthy and just calls for a little self control ..
Rainbow Dash
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This may work for some. There are some women who have irregular cycles and who are not so careful often end up becoming pregnant. So, if a couple wanted to go this route it may be effective for those with a normal cycle. The percent for a normal cycle is about 75% to 87%. Irregular cycles percentage may be lower.
aribell
formerly nicola.kirwan
Iwanthealthyhair67 said:
There are tons of very credible natural family planning sites and info out there. It's not technically the rhythm method, as NFP is not just about dates but also about body temperature, mucus, etc. When all are taken together the effective rate is supposed to be just as good as conventional methods.
LucieLoo12
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Rainbow Dash
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I believe in using natural methods but I also believe that God has blessed us with doctors and medicine. I don't agree with all forms of medicine or treatments, especially the embryo stem cell and morning after pill.
In my case, if I did not use a doctor to give birth to my children I would not be alive today. I almost died with my first child and the child as well, so we cannot totally dismiss doctors, science, and medicine. They are useful.
Be careful not to go to far to the left when it comes to this type of stuff.
In my case, if I did not use a doctor to give birth to my children I would not be alive today. I almost died with my first child and the child as well, so we cannot totally dismiss doctors, science, and medicine. They are useful.
Be careful not to go to far to the left when it comes to this type of stuff.
BostonMaria
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I think that the issue with birth control is that it gives a woman a false sense of protection and control over her future. I know women that have used BC for years and its made them gain weight, develop acne all over their face, have blood clots (for those that I know who smoked while on BC), get yeast infections, made them sick, etc. Some people think that just because they're on BC it gives them the "right" to be promiscuous, which of course can lead to STD's. BC doesn't protect against diseases.
Before I became a Christian I took BC for years and after a while I started to feel nauseous and sick after I took the pill. Then I switched to other types of BC's. Its been 7 years trying to have a child and I can't seem to get pregnant. I don't know if it was the BC or something else. It bothers me and is always in the back of my mind.
These pharmaceutical companies don't care if they make us sick or infertile. At the end of the day they just want to make money off of us. If you are married, have regular periods, and can do the natural planning method I highly recommend it. You can download an app on your phone and check the days you are the most fertile.
Before I became a Christian I took BC for years and after a while I started to feel nauseous and sick after I took the pill. Then I switched to other types of BC's. Its been 7 years trying to have a child and I can't seem to get pregnant. I don't know if it was the BC or something else. It bothers me and is always in the back of my mind.
These pharmaceutical companies don't care if they make us sick or infertile. At the end of the day they just want to make money off of us. If you are married, have regular periods, and can do the natural planning method I highly recommend it. You can download an app on your phone and check the days you are the most fertile.
CoilyFields
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I do not believe that there is anything wrong with birth control (not to be lumped with morning after pill). I believe that God has allowed science to benefit us in many ways. I wouldnt dismiss those medicines etc. that improve my quaity of life. And frankly, If I dont wanna have kids I dont think that its something that God would frown on. Didnt Paul desire to be single...thereby eliminating the possibility of having kids? So he wasn't "fruitful" inthat way...
I also believe that if God wants a child to be born he can overcome bc. I was on the pill when I got pregnant with my daughter.
I also believe that if God wants a child to be born he can overcome bc. I was on the pill when I got pregnant with my daughter.
ItsMeFre
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This is how I got pregnant with my 3rd child. I had a baby in 2010 (planned) and in 2011 (unplanned) because my cycle was irregular and we thought we were being careful. My cylcle hadn't regulated itself out after the 2010 baby so I ended up getting pregnant again.
ItsMeFre
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I agree with this 100%.
loolalooh
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Well
When I first gave my life to Christ I use to think that birth control was wrong thats because I had no understanding of it. People always say the bible says "Be fruitful and multiply" but it only says that like 2-3 times in the bible and that was when the earth was first being inhabitated. So now the earth is FULLY populated, overly really, so its not a commandment to have a whole lot of children.Now they are cases where a woman was on some type of birth control and she still got pregnant. Well if thats happens, well hey Glory to God. But it is nothing wrong with a woman taking precautions. If you have a husband and a wife that only makes $32,000/year and can't afford children, I would rather them take the steps to prevent pregnancy until they are financially stable verses them bringing kids into this world they cant afford to take care of. But sometimes people have a whole lot of kids and say this will was the of God, and for some it may be. But if you have unprotected sex pregnancy will be the outcome. You should just use wisdom. Like this women on TV with these 20 kids. She almost died her last two pregnancy and just had a miscarriage. Now by no means am I trying to talk down about this woman. But her health and life is in jeproady.The bible says God maketh rich and added no sorrow to it.
So if people dont want to use birth control with their spouse, thats fine. And for the ones who do, thats fine too... no one is wrong...
The Duggar family, right? Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't they "purposefully" trying to have as many kids as possible? Her pregnancies have been planned, right? I feel some kind of way about their situation, but let me not pass judgment.
aribell
formerly nicola.kirwan
The Pill (hormonal bc) will also prevent a fertilized egg from implanting in a woman's uterus, like one of the morning after pills does. Some people argue that it's not a "life" until the fertilized egg implants, others say it is a "life" as soon as the egg and sperm meet. Christians usually take the stance that a life has been created as soon as the egg and sperm meet, making the Pill a no-go, since the pill doesn't prevent conception, but only implantation. For a woman on the Pill who has conceived, the embryo would simply continue to pass through her system.
I can't speak to Yaz and other forms of BC, but I also believe that there have to be more serious health side-effects than they let on. Think about the sheer number of women who purchase birth control for years. There is waaay too much money at stake for the pharma companies to allow any negative studies to come out.
I can't speak to Yaz and other forms of BC, but I also believe that there have to be more serious health side-effects than they let on. Think about the sheer number of women who purchase birth control for years. There is waaay too much money at stake for the pharma companies to allow any negative studies to come out.
ItsMeFre
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From my understanding, their logic is that God decides when they are finished having kids. They are not purposely having children, they just don't believe in birth control. They believe that they will stop having children when God decides to stop giving them children.
loolalooh
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I was wondering if publicity had anything to do with it. Thanks for clarifying.
Sharpened
A fleck on His Sword
I guess I am the only one who was terrified to use the Pill to alter my body's chemistry. Reading the insert was all I needed...LOL!
I had my tubes tied after my last c-sec; another pregnancy would have killed me. When our younger one was three, DH told me he had a visitation (and years later, a dream reminding him of the visitation) that he would lose one child (my miscarriage) but have two more afterwards. They are upstairs, playing on the computer.
I had my tubes tied after my last c-sec; another pregnancy would have killed me. When our younger one was three, DH told me he had a visitation (and years later, a dream reminding him of the visitation) that he would lose one child (my miscarriage) but have two more afterwards. They are upstairs, playing on the computer.
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