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MissB

New Member
Great post Supergirl! I am with you on the carboxylic acid. I keep those 3 shampoos in my rotation all the time. And I am also on my third jar of the Night Time Treatment.
 

Candy_C

New Member
Supergirl, i have to say that i've tried A B (not C yet) and i they DO work.

A works for me most as most of my breakage if any comes from product overload. most of my prods include cones and mineral oil (which my hair loves) so clarifying and following with moisturizing poo is the one.

i use a moisturizing poo after the clarifying to clear away any clarifying ingredients that are drying and also make my hair come back to "stage:1" again (aka. back to life)

thanks so much!
 

Poohbear

Fearfully Wonderfully Made
Supergirl said:
The idea is to build the moisture content of your hair. I feel that wetting the hair each day rinses away the moisture (from your 2X/daily moisturizing). I know it won't rinse away all of it, but we want to try to keep as much of it as possible. Also, condition washes daily will get regular build up onto the hair faster and you will need to use shampoo sooner than 2 weeks. And lastly, most of the conditioners that are used for daily conditioner washes are not what I would consider "quality" conditioners. They're indeed okay for conditioner washes for someone who is not having any hair issues. But since this advice is geared toward one experiencing breakage, I wouldn't recommend those conditioners for someone whose hair is breaking.
This has been my experience with daily cowashing too! I've been trying it off and on and have come to the conclusion that daily cowashing to too stressful for my hair. Yes, it makes my hair soft, but that's not my main goal. My main goal is to retain the hair length that I grow. And when its breaking off, some length is going with it. I didn't suffer any major breakage, but even those few lil broken coils I would see scared me. Just simply moisturizing with this new found hair lotion has done wonders for my hair and has even cut back tremendously on the shedding of hairs that I would see with daily cowashing. :yep:

This goes back to the old saying 'What works for someone else may not work for you.' ;)
 

tenderheaded

Well-Known Member
Thank you for doing this:) I remember how peeved you were about your last salon visit, so I'm glad you're back on track.

And huge congrats on being WAISTLENGTH:grin:
 

cutiebe2

Well-Known Member
Supergirl thank you soooo much! You are a girl after my own heart:kiss:
I just have a question.. if you can't answer it maybe some of the othrs reading can....
I am wearing braids right now and I don't know how to tell if I am moisturizing enough or not...I try to get in moisture with s-curl twice a day and I deep condition once a week. I don't want to wait till I take the braids out and see more hair than normal comming out to know that I did something wrong. Can you recommend anyway to tell that your hair is moisturized in braids???
thanks!!!
 

Supergirl

With Love & Silk
MsDanele1518 said:
would you recommend MNT deep moisturizing condish for cowash? that's the one i typically use.

Yes, I think that would be fine. I'm moreso talking about the V05 and Suave type conditioners. :)
 

Supergirl

With Love & Silk
tenderheaded said:
Thank you for doing this:) I remember how peeved you were about your last salon visit, so I'm glad you're back on track.

And huge congrats on being WAISTLENGTH:grin:

Aww thanks :kiss: Yes, I was highly disturbed at how a few minutes in a salon chair can make all your hard work go down the drain! And I am SO glad to be "back on track." This thread is a result of my 17 week journey that followed that dreadful salon visit. ;)
 

Supergirl

With Love & Silk
cutiebe2 said:
Supergirl thank you soooo much! You are a girl after my own heart:kiss:
I just have a question.. if you can't answer it maybe some of the othrs reading can....
I am wearing braids right now and I don't know how to tell if I am moisturizing enough or not...I try to get in moisture with s-curl twice a day and I deep condition once a week. I don't want to wait till I take the braids out and see more hair than normal comming out to know that I did something wrong. Can you recommend anyway to tell that your hair is moisturized in braids???
thanks!!!

I don't think you'll be able to really tell if your hair is moisturized while in braids. My experience with braids and moisture is as follows: I had Janet Jackson Poetic Justice Braids a loooonnnnngggg while back. I don't know how your braids are, but I hope there are not so many that you can't give each one special attention. I had about 40 braids on my hair and several times a week, I would just rub oil down the length of each braid. I used Ginseng Wonder 8 Oil. I'm sure many others would work well. When I took the braids out, my hair was so slick from the oil that with just a slight tug, the braid would slide right out. My hair felt well-conditioned and I lost very little. So if you are using S-curl or some type of creamy moisturizer, try to get it down the length of each braid and I'm going to recommend that you apply oil on top of that. I think you'll be pleased with the condition of your hair after you take your braids out if you do this. It's great that you understand that it's still important to take care of your hair even while it's in the braids. :yep:
 

Sosoothing

Well-Known Member
Supergirl said:
Aphogee--I've never used their treatment for damaged hair. Based on the responses to it from LHCF members, it works for some and not for others. I wish I were more familiar with it so that I could have the experience with it to recommend it (or not). Sorry I can't be of more help with this one.

You've already been lots of help. Thank you.
 

Supergirl

With Love & Silk
Lkaysgirl said:
You've already been lots of help. Thank you.

Awwww, you're sweet. I'm now noticing how THICK your ponytail is in your signature. You may not need an Aphogee treatment or anything else for that matter! WOW :)
 

hot_pepper96

Well-Known Member
I rushed out and bought the Mizani Rose H20 Night Time Treatment yesterday. I smoothed it over my hair, especially on my ends and nape. I also trimmed more hair off. It just continues to split. I'm sure there's more in the back that I can't see. I'll try to do another dusting in about 2-3 weeks.

Anyway, woke up this morning and my hair was so moisturized. I combed through and soooo much less hair. I'm astonished right now. Plus, I put about two dime sized amounts of Neutrogena Smooth Touch on my hair. I had no idea it felt so great on dry hair. I followed w/a tiny bit of NTM Serum to seal it. My hair feels so smooth compared to how brittle it felt after I did an Avocado treatment this weekend (Never again by the way)!
 

HoneyDew

Well-Known Member
MizaniMami said:
Great post! A lot of people overlook clarifying.

Clarifying can be out friend


So true!! Everytime I try to skip that step, my hair is a mess after about 2 shampoos.

I personally can't just use any clarifying shampoo, My favorite one in Kenra Clarifying/Chelating, but I have to use the ones like demineralize or the swimmer's varieties.

Hard water can make our hair so dry and brittle!!!!
 

RabiaElaine

New Member
Wow thanks....I've always noticed that cream in your siggy, and wandered how good it really was. Thanks for this detailed explaination.
 

Lovelylocs

Well-Known Member
My hair is messed up on the ends b/c it is dyed and relaxed. C/o washes with a cheap conditioner don't work like they used to. Protein conditioners have helped some, but my hair is still not the same. My stylist recommended that I dont let my hair airdry anymore b/c that leaves the hair weak. :confused: I dunno. I think I am going to tackle the protein thing again, Supergirl! I may even try the Mizani miracle cream. :yep: Thanks for the advice.

Do u know anything about colored hair?
 

Supergirl

With Love & Silk
hot_pepper96 said:
I rushed out and bought the Mizani Rose H20 Night Time Treatment yesterday. I smoothed it over my hair, especially on my ends and nape. I also trimmed more hair off. It just continues to split. I'm sure there's more in the back that I can't see. I'll try to do another dusting in about 2-3 weeks.

Anyway, woke up this morning and my hair was so moisturized. I combed through and soooo much less hair. I'm astonished right now. Plus, I put about two dime sized amounts of Neutrogena Smooth Touch on my hair. I had no idea it felt so great on dry hair. I followed w/a tiny bit of NTM Serum to seal it. My hair feels so smooth compared to how brittle it felt after I did an Avocado treatment this weekend (Never again by the way)!

Yay, I'm so glad you took a chance and tried the Mizani product. It really does work. :yep:

I also love NTM Silk Touch on dry hair. :up:
 

Supergirl

With Love & Silk
Lovelylocs said:
My hair is messed up on the ends b/c it is dyed and relaxed. C/o washes with a cheap conditioner don't work like they used to. Protein conditioners have helped some, but my hair is still not the same. My stylist recommended that I dont let my hair airdry anymore b/c that leaves the hair weak. :confused: I dunno. I think I am going to tackle the protein thing again, Supergirl! I may even try the Mizani miracle cream. :yep: Thanks for the advice.

Do u know anything about colored hair?

I'm sorry, don't know much about colored hair. Two members here (Blackbarbie and Tracy) have beautiful, thriving color treated hair and it seems like lots of moisture is key in their regimen. In fact, I was inspired by Blackbarbie to moisturize my hair at least 2x daily when my hair was going through a rough time.

I don't know if I agree with your stylist about air drying making the hair weak. Is she saying air drying would weaken the hair more than blow drying? If so, that's definitely not correct. I might be able to understand a little better if she were advocating rollersetting over air drying. Most setting lotions and leave-ins that we use to rollerset have good ingredients including some moisturizing proteins and so with rollersetting, we get a little deep conditioning too.
 

DahomeyAhosi

New Member
I am going to have to break down and try clarifying which, I much sadly admit, I have carefully avoided because my hair tangles like crazy when I use non-moisturizing shampoos. Thanks for getting me to try it SG.
 

Blackbird77

Well-Known Member
Supergirl said:
I'm sorry, don't know much about colored hair. Two members here (Blackbarbie and Tracy) have beautiful, thriving color treated hair and it seems like lots of moisture is key in their regimen. In fact, I was inspired by Blackbarbie to moisturize my hair at least 2x daily when my hair was going through a rough time.

I don't know if I agree with your stylist about air drying making the hair weak. Is she saying air drying would weaken the hair more than blow drying? If so, that's definitely not correct. I might be able to understand a little better if she were advocating rollersetting over air drying. Most setting lotions and leave-ins that we use to rollerset have good ingredients including some moisturizing proteins and so with rollersetting, we get a little deep conditioning too.

That makes a lot of sense, Supergirl. If that really was the case, what did people do before blowdryers? Sometimes stylists want their clients to believe something because they don't have the skills to do something another way. They just don't want their clients to know that.:grin:
 

Lovelylocs

Well-Known Member
Supergirl said:
I'm sorry, don't know much about colored hair. Two members here (Blackbarbie and Tracy) have beautiful, thriving color treated hair and it seems like lots of moisture is key in their regimen. In fact, I was inspired by Blackbarbie to moisturize my hair at least 2x daily when my hair was going through a rough time.

I don't know if I agree with your stylist about air drying making the hair weak. Is she saying air drying would weaken the hair more than blow drying? If so, that's definitely not correct. I might be able to understand a little better if she were advocating rollersetting over air drying. Most setting lotions and leave-ins that we use to rollerset have good ingredients including some moisturizing proteins and so with rollersetting, we get a little deep conditioning too.
She is advocating rollersetting over airdrying. I've had her and another Dominican stylist from another salon tell me the same thing. They said that u always have to dry your hair in rollers b/c if u dont then the roots b/c weak and the ends will split. The thing is that when my hair was perfectly healthy I used to airdry all of the time. I would C/O wash every other day and airdry and my hair was luxurious. My hair would grow really fast too, but I would still get split ends.

I have dried my hair in rollers for the last month and I dont have any new splits since my trim before this whole rollersetting every week thing started. :) I'm still not so sure that I am a believer, but I'm going to keep trying this thing out and see. The only thing is that I like washing my hair often. :lol: I love doing my hair. After a while I may start washing every other day again and rollersetting right after, but w/o heat or with heat for like 1min at the end and then wrapping. Does this sound like a bad idea?
 

Lovelylocs

Well-Known Member
Lovelylocs said:
She is advocating rollersetting over airdrying. I've had her and another Dominican stylist from another salon tell me the same thing. They said that u always have to dry your hair in rollers b/c if u dont then the roots b/c weak and the ends will split. The thing is that when my hair was perfectly healthy I used to airdry all of the time. I would C/O wash every other day and airdry and my hair was luxurious. My hair would grow really fast too, but I would still get split ends.

I have dried my hair in rollers for the last month and I dont have any new splits since my trim before this whole rollersetting every week thing started. :) I'm still not so sure that I am a believer, but I'm going to keep trying this thing out and see. The only thing is that I like washing my hair often. :lol: I love doing my hair. After a while I may start washing every other day again and rollersetting right after, but w/o heat or with heat for like 1min at the end and then wrapping. Does this sound like a bad idea?
Does anyone know if the Mizani Rose H2o Intense Night-time Treatment is an oil/grease or if it is watery/creamy? Would it ruin my blowout if I put it on my dry hair?
 
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