The orginal Fine hair thread 2013

[BraunSugar]

Some ppl put a roller on the ends

I tried it and it didn't help.

 

[Ari8]

^Redken Extra Strength Builder Plus?

Checked out the ingredients and the glycerin concerns me. It otherwise looks good. Would you say it's mild/moderate or strong?

 

[Ari8]

Laylaa
I have the AOGPB. I don't particularly care for it, but I used it yesterday and I did notice some of my curls had clumped and my hair felt moisturized. IIRC, that Curl Junkie is expensive. How would you say it compares to other protein treatments (strong, mild)? It seems to get rave reviews.

PJaye
I've been thinking of ordering Shescentit Okra, too, haha. I've heard of people using that stuff as their leave-in. I have the Millcreek Biotin. The first time I ever used it, my hair felt strong and I had one of the best hair days ever. It's never really worked the same since, although I still liked it. I'll ask you also: how do you rate them in terms of strength? Also, how often do you use them?

mshoneyfly
Where do you buy the Mill Creek Keratin? And which Shea Moisture product do you recommend?

 

[Ari8]

Yes, I did it! I finally know how to quote! LOL.

 

[AtlantaJJ]

How did I miss this thread?


I have some reading to do. Henna and low mani is working great for me!

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[itsjusthair88]

I have posted in here before...but I am hardly EVER in the hair section (or on LHCF period) anymore, but I could really use some help, I am about to cut all of this hair off and be d@mned.

I was tired of fussing with my hair all of the time, and it was getting very tangly and dry, so I have been wearing braids about the last 2 month (with extensions) and I took them out...my hair was HAM. It was dry, tangly, oily and a mess. I could barely finger detangle, there were little clumps of hair where the the ends decided to dance with each other and it seemed no matter HOW well I detangled a section (with my fingers and the comb) I would go back to it and it would be a tangled mess again

I have also shedded/lost so much hair, I seriously felt like I was going bald, I mean a baseball size amount of hair has come out of my head (or even more)

The worst part? I have lost ALL curl definition and my hair hasn't retained a CENTIMETER of growth since December 2012; I have always been a 4A/3C and for the 1st 2 years, my hair was thriving on a simple twist regimen and with Shea Moisture products. But not anymore.

I can't tell if I am lopo or high po...my hair gets very wet very quickly, doesn't stay moisturized and takes all day (and then some) to air dry. It didn't used to be, but it is now a tangly mess I get tons of SSKs. My hair is breaking off like crazy and it's super super dry. I tried the Aphogee 2 minute and nothing, even the Motions CPR did nothing for me. I have always had a hard time with protein; I think I am protein sensitive, because in the past, using protein made my hair hard, BUT my hair is so weak at this point, touching it sometimes causes it to break off erplexed

My hair strands also feel very rough to the touch. I suspect (after reading this thread) I need to finish every wash with an ACV rinse to close the cuticle. After reading through the thread, here's what I KNOW I need to do:


♦Chelate, I am going to buy the ORS creamy aloe, I have NEVER chelated
♦Start finishing each wash with an ACV rinse
♦Hot oil treatments

My main problems are money, I just graduated and I am working an entry level PR job in New York City, one of the most expensive cities in the world and my hair's density...it may be fine, but there is SOOOOOOO much of it, finger detangling, is a no go for me, but I think combs are ripping my hair out.


Please tell me your thoughts??? I am at APL (broken off from BSB ) and I don't want to lose the last of my progress. I will seriously take any and all suggestions, I just want my hair to start looking like it's old, self.



OOOOHHH, one more thing, I actually used a box color (bad, I know) so this is definitely contributing to it, but it wasn't that bad at first, now? I'm afraid if I don't get a handle on it soon, I am going to be back at SL

 

[mshoneyfly]

I have posted in here before...but I am hardly EVER in the hair section (or on LHCF period) anymore, but I could really use some help, I am about to cut all of this hair off and be d@mned.

I was tired of fussing with my hair all of the time, and it was getting very tangly and dry, so I have been wearing braids about the last 2 month (with extensions) and I took them out...my hair was HAM. It was dry, tangly, oily and a mess. I could barely finger detangle, there were little clumps of hair where the the ends decided to dance with each other and it seemed no matter HOW well I detangled a section (with my fingers and the comb) I would go back to it and it would be a tangled mess again

I have also shedded/lost so much hair, I seriously felt like I was going bald, I mean a baseball size amount of hair has come out of my head (or even more)

The worst part? I have lost ALL curl definition and my hair hasn't retained a CENTIMETER of growth since December 2012; I have always been a 4A/3C and for the 1st 2 years, my hair was thriving on a simple twist regimen and with Shea Moisture products. But not anymore.

I can't tell if I am lopo or high po...my hair gets very wet very quickly, doesn't stay moisturized and takes all day (and then some) to air dry. It didn't used to be, but it is now a tangly mess I get tons of SSKs. My hair is breaking off like crazy and it's super super dry. I tried the Aphogee 2 minute and nothing, even the Motions CPR did nothing for me. I have always had a hard time with protein; I think I am protein sensitive, because in the past, using protein made my hair hard, BUT my hair is so weak at this point, touching it sometimes causes it to break off erplexed

My hair strands also feel very rough to the touch. I suspect (after reading this thread) I need to finish every wash with an ACV rinse to close the cuticle. After reading through the thread, here's what I KNOW I need to do:

♦Chelate, I am going to buy the ORS creamy aloe, I have NEVER chelated
♦Start finishing each wash with an ACV rinse
♦Hot oil treatments

My main problems are money, I just graduated and I am working an entry level PR job in New York City, one of the most expensive cities in the world and my hair's density...it may be fine, but there is SOOOOOOO much of it, finger detangling, is a no go for me, but I think combs are ripping my hair out.

Please tell me your thoughts??? I am at APL (broken off from BSB ) and I don't want to lose the last of my progress. I will seriously take any and all suggestions, I just want my hair to start looking like it's old, self.

OOOOHHH, one more thing, I actually used a box color (bad, I know) so this is definitely contributing to it, but it wasn't that bad at first, now? I'm afraid if I don't get a handle on it soon, I am going to be back at SL

itsjusthair88
Your action plan sounds good for starters. My money is also limited so I like to use natural stuff and do some mixing whenever possible.

Did you follow the aphogee and motions with a moisturizing dc? What did you use to moisturize while in braids?

Also, are you detangling on soaking wet hair? Lately, I have been letting my hair sit wrapped in a t-shirt until at least 70% dry before putting in any product. Then I moisturize, seal, then detangle. If your hair its properly moisturized, detangling should be easy and your curls should pop.

I made a paste of australian pink clay, shea moisture raw dc, SAA powder, sukesh ayurvedic powder, AVJ, and oils for my daughter (shes transitioning to natural). It brings the right moisture balance to her hair and her waves just started to pop like crazy!!

Here's a pic







Thats all I can think of right now but I know Others will also have good advice/ideas

 

[coolsista-paris]

All right ladies. So i tried airdrying again,it camé out kinda good.i used serum after shirt drying to seal. Nonie thé next day it was kind of dry,i added s curl on thé braids it was then fine. Maybe i need tk add something before thé serum(cream or she butter )....id like to try next time.it was soft though when i took down thé twists.

Anyway pics :

Hair in pre poo




Air dried in these twists


Attached them to stretch Well


Dry hair


Dry ponytail


Cornrows for wig



Back to lace front (dont mind my work décoration at thé back lol)

 

[laylaaa]

Laylaa
I have the AOGPB. I don't particularly care for it, but I used it yesterday and I did notice some of my curls had clumped and my hair felt moisturized. IIRC, that Curl Junkie is expensive. How would you say it compares to other protein treatments (strong, mild)? It seems to get rave reviews.

The AOGBP works best when you follow the manufacturer's advice and DC with it only on dry hair... consistently too. Otherwise it's just a meh product.

As for CJ, I think it's quite strong and you really have to follow up with a moisture DC because it's definitely not as mild as it pretends. I love it though. It leaves my hair bouncy and pliable even when it's wet which is great because I only detangle in the shower. 4/5 for me.

 

[Nonie]

All right ladies. So i tried airdrying again,it camé out kinda good.i used serum after shirt drying to seal. Nonie thé next day it was kind of dry,i added s curl on thé braids it was then fine. Maybe i need tk add something before thé serum(cream or she butter )....id like to try next time.it was soft though when i took down thé twists

coolsista-paris you previously wrote :

"I will then shirt dry and add serum (it keeps my hair so soft and keeps moisture in) its serum without water. I might try adding a tiny bit of liquid kearacare,then seal with serum"​

I have some questions for you:

1) What did you do differently from before? You said serum keeps your hair soft normally, so what was different?

2) Did you add a tiny bit of liquid keracare or not?

3) Could it be that you didn't seal well, so you left gaps through which moisture was lost? Because how were you able to moisturize serum-sealed hair unless there are gaps for moisture to reach hair? Do you part narrow sections and then apply serum on either side of strip of hair using fingers and thumb as a clamp so strands are well coated?

4) Hair was soft in the end, is that not how it was in the past when you said serum left your hair soft?

 

[Creatividual]

I'm realizing that as much as I wanted to be one of those girls that can get away with washing her hair once a month, that is just not me. My fine strands thrive off of more water and being washed more frequently. I retain more length, it tangles and breaks less and it never has a chance to dry out. So I am back to washing my hair every 1-2 weeks. My goal is to get back to once a week.

I have crochet braids in right now. So for the past three weeks I've been co-washing every week with them in and following up wiht an ACV rinse. THis has been working great. I won't be able to tell until I take them out in a couple weeks but I think this weekly washing will benefit my hair. I plan to wear crochet braids all summer. My hair needs a break and I want to hit MBL by December with no interruptions.

Before the crochet braids, I was upping my protein conditioning and seeing results. I love Aubrey Organics GPB conditioner, my hair really responds to it. I use it at least twice a month.

 

[coolsista-paris]

coolsista-paris you previously wrote :

"I will then shirt dry and add serum (it keeps my hair so soft and keeps moisture in) its serum without water. I might try adding a tiny bit of liquid kearacare,then seal with serum"

I have some questions for you:

1) What did you do differently from before? You said serum keeps your hair soft normally, so what was different?

2) Did you add a tiny bit of liquid keracare or not?

3) Could it be that you didn't seal well, so you left gaps through which moisture was lost? Because how were you able to moisturize serum-sealed hair unless there are gaps for moisture to reach hair? Do you part narrow sections and then apply serum on either side of strip of hair using fingers and thumb as a clamp so strands are well coated?

4) Hair was soft in the end, is that not how it was in the past when you said serum left your hair soft?

Hi nonie.

1)i think i did not add tea tree (afraid of protein overload) and i have already tried liquid keracare + serum which left soft hair but it was with rollersetting under dryer (which im avoiding for now). Usually i blow dried. I might need to look out for my book (i wrote what i did in it...thats months ago)

2) i didnt add keracare liquid

3)i tried sealing thé best i can. Seperated thé strands and took my time. It felt soft but like there was à lot of serum at some areas. Weard feeling .

4)in thé past it stayed soft. I need to find what happended. Is it because i dindt usé heat like usually? Or i must have added liquid cream.?

I cant wait for next wash to try again

 

[coolsista-paris]

So there's hope for me yet :')

Yes there is!!!!! you can get thé nice long hair too. ;-)

 

[itsjusthair88]

@itsjusthair88
Your action plan sounds good for starters. My money is also limited so I like to use natural stuff and do some mixing whenever possible.

Did you follow the aphogee and motions with a moisturizing dc? What did you use to moisturize while in braids?

Also, are you detangling on soaking wet hair? Lately, I have been letting my hair sit wrapped in a t-shirt until at least 70% dry before putting in any product. Then I moisturize, seal, then detangle. If your hair its properly moisturized, detangling should be easy and your curls should pop.

I made a paste of australian pink clay, shea moisture raw dc, SAA powder, sukesh ayurvedic powder, AVJ, and oils for my daughter (shes transitioning to natural). It brings the right moisture balance to her hair and her waves just started to pop like crazy!!

Here's a pic



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Thats all I can think of right now but I know Others will also have good advice/ideas

mshoneyfly Thank you, I sometimes detangle on soaking wet hair, only because letting it dry, even a little, it's like the strands fall in love with eachother However, I am going to try harder to keep it in plaits the entire wash, rather than get lazy and give up half way through.

Also, I did follow up the 2minute with my SM deep treatment masque, but I'm not sure that was moisturizing enough.

I could really use some recommendations for ultra moisturizing DC's, thanks!

Can ANYBODY else chime in?! I could really use the help! TIA!

 

[HairPleezeGrow]

I'm hendigoing over night. I will wash it out in the am and then dc.

HPG

Don't judge...Sent from my Galaxy Note II using LHCF

 

[NefertariBlu]

mshoneyfly Thank you, I sometimes detangle on soaking wet hair, only because letting it dry, even a little, it's like the strands fall in love with eachother However, I am going to try harder to keep it in plaits the entire wash, rather than get lazy and give up half way through.

Also, I did follow up the 2minute with my SM deep treatment masque, but I'm not sure that was moisturizing enough.

I could really use some recommendations for ultra moisturizing DC's, thanks!

Can ANYBODY else chime in?! I could really use the help! TIA!

A moisturising dc that l recently have starting using is the ors replenishing pak. Mit has really good slip and is a really good dc although it is not natural.

 

[coolsista-paris]

A moisturising dc that l recently have starting using is the ors replenishing pak. Mit has really good slip and is a really good dc although it is not natural.

I will note this down. Thanks ;-)

i might try it out some day. ( my dc is soon finished).

 

[tinkat]

A moisturising dc that l recently have starting using is the ors replenishing pak. Mit has really good slip and is a really good dc although it is not natural.

I use this or Palmer moisturizing conditioner pak after my protein treatments.

Wait, be positive, keep believing, and all will surely be yours. Sent from my iPhone using LHCF

 

[Killahkurlz]

A moisturising dc that l recently have starting using is the ors replenishing pak. Mit has really good slip and is a really good dc although it is not natural.

I use the ors replenishing conditioner n the bottle. And it's huge

 

[HairPleezeGrow]

Okay so I finally got around to doing my 3rd hendigo treatment. I was going to keep it in over night but I just couldn't so after I rinsed it out I washed my hair with African Pride shampoo&con combo since that's what I had lying around. I then dc'd with banana burlee dc for 2 hours. I applied pink mimosa LI and shea moisture curl enhancing smoothie and flat twisted my hair over night. I'm posting pics of what my hair looked like after takedown. I really tried to get a good shot of the color so you can see it bc I have boocoo grays.
Excuse the back shot being so blurry...my son took the pic.
























HPG

Don't judge...Sent from my Galaxy Note II using LHCF

 

[mamaore]

Any relaxed fine haired ladies on this thread care to share their regimen?

How often do you use protein, what kind you use and whether you use protein moisturizers.

 

[mshoneyfly]

Okay so I finally got around to doing my 3rd hendigo treatment. I was going to keep it in over night but I just couldn't so after I rinsed it out I washed my hair with African Pride shampoo&con combo since that's what I had lying around. I then dc'd with banana burlee dc for 2 hours. I applied pink mimosa LI and shea moisture curl enhancing smoothie and flat twisted my hair over night. I'm posting pics of what my hair looked like after takedown. I really tried to get a good shot of the color so you can see it bc I have boocoo grays.
Excuse the back shot being so blurry...my son took the pic.

HPG

Don't judge...Sent from my Galaxy Note II using LHCF

HairPleezeGrow
Nice color!! Im due for a henna real soon. I just texlaxed so first I gotta clarify/chelate and do a Sukesh treatment. I'll prob do it on Saturday

OAN: i sold my first henna mix to a co-worker for $10!!And I got another order the same day for tomorrow!

mamaore

I don't know if you like shea moisture and nubian heritage but they have some products with protein that I like. They work best after clarifying to get rid of cones (I try to avoid them).

I use protein when I feel I need it. I just used the NH indian hemp & tamanu grow & strengthen masque that has keratin then the SM detangler with veg protein on top as a dc treatment the day before texturizing. Keratin builds strength and veg protein helps the hair hold onto moisture. So does wheat and soy.

 

[NefertariBlu]

I use the ors replenishing conditioner n the bottle. And it's huge

I only bought the sample pack and I am already in love with it. My hair felt sooo soft after using it and it made my hair so easy to detangle.

I can't believe I wasted so much money on all the expensive, hard to find products, when this is so easy to find over here. I didn't like the banana nourishing conditioner at all. Thankfully I only used it on one section of my hair and applied the replenishing pak to the rest of my hair to finish off.

I will be purchasing the bigger bottle. Only thing is, I don't like the smell of it. It smells fabricated

Using it alongside the aloe shampoo has given me the hopes that these will now be my staples

 

[Killahkurlz]

I only bought the sample pack and I am already in love with it. My hair felt sooo soft after using it and it made my hair so easy to detangle.

I can't believe I wasted so much money on all the expensive, hard to find products, when this is so easy to find over here. I didn't like the banana nourishing conditioner at all. Thankfully I only used it on one section of my hair and applied the replenishing pak to the rest of my hair to finish off.

I will be purchasing the bigger bottle. Only thing is, I don't like the smell of it. It smells fabricated

Using it alongside the aloe shampoo has given me the hopes that these will now be my staples

Omg girl I LOVE the smell lol. But yes, it it's a great product and lasts

 

[coolsista-paris]

I shampood last night. Air dried (this Time haïr came out fine and not dry but it was kinda oily). I think maybe i used to much vatika oil. I Will use léss next Time. Wish i could twist but that gives m'y fine haïr knots. So, i néed to think of à new ps.

 

[Jobwright]

Any relaxed fine haired ladies on this thread care to share their regimen?

How often do you use protein, what kind you use and whether you use protein moisturizers.

I am relaxed and fine. I cowash every couple of days with Tresemme Naturals. Air dry till my hair is just damp. LOC with Aphogee Keratin Green Tea Spray, seal with jojoba oil, moisturize with a little Tresemme Naturals Conditioner, bun. I have been doing this for a couple of weeks and so far, so good. I need to do a DC, so maybe Friday night I will DC on dry hair and baggy overnight with ORS Replenishing Conditioner and Wheat germ oil. Then tea rinse Saturday morning. Trying to figure out how to get a cassia treatment in.

 

[BonBon]

I'm shampooing and conditioning in loose braids today. Haven't tried it many times before for some reason, but maybe this is the way forward lol

I think at this point my hair shrinks to about 80% of my length so its hard. ATM its looking around 50 which is good for me

 

[mamaore]

mshoneyfly... no I haven't used any of those products. I'm trying to incorporate more protein in my regimen. I have used a few reconstructors but I really did not see any difference. "(Affirm, Joico and Aphogee 2 min which I just started using).

 

[mshoneyfly]

Two good ultra moisture DCs Ive used lately are:

-Shea moisture purification masque
This stuff is so moisturizing! When I rinsed it out, my hair was so shiny, strong, soft and bouncy! Even after it air dried, It looked like it was still wet and I didnt lose any hair in the drain when I rinsed it out. It has clay, willow bark and some other good stuff. I loved it so much, I ordered 3 more from walgreens.com (it was on sale 3/$19.98)!

-Tresemme naturals (old formula)
This is a good moisturizing rinse out conditioner. All my tangles just melted after leaving it on about 5 minutes.

 

[coolsista-paris]

I’m still trying to make a decision of if I should relax, texlax, hot comb, protein treatment (design essentials), or any other way to wear my hair straight.
My hair does better with straight hair (I retain more) + for work it is better too (yeah they are very strict where I am its getting on my nerves).
Thing is, as a fine haired lady, will I manage to get to the long lenthgs I would love?

I thought for a moment, why not relax and cut short, then from there grow it out ….but im between apl and bsl so that is hard to decide.

I need some advice and I’d love to see beautiful heads of fine ladies that wear there hair straight.

I don’t get it, as a little girl my hair seemed thick in pictures (maybe I just didn’t know I had fine hair?). But they used to hot comb my hair and it was the best it had been in my entire life !!

Jobwright shared already. i want more please mooooore

Please share your straight hair advice/reggies my ladies.
Even naturals that only wear straight I need your advice too !