Setting to Success 2014 Challenge

toaster

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Finally washing and setting my hair tonight. I'll use conditioner only. I've come to the conclusion that any setting/holding product makes my strands stick together and I don't like how it feels.
 

ElevatedEnergy

Rooted Yet Flowing
do any of y'all use serums in your sets? I feel like they would be a good addition

girlonfire I used to use Carol's Daughter Macadamia serum, but once I ran out I never repurchased. After setting a few times without it and only using my It's a 10 leave in to set, I couldn't see a difference in how my sets turned out. So I just saw it as something that I didn't need.
 

toaster

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Under the dryer. I used very little product (It's a 10 Daily Conditioner) to set as my hair felt super moisturized after rinsing out my DC (It's a 10 Miracle Mask and coconut oil). My ear covers came so I'm under the Pibbs at 70! I hope to be dry in an hour.

As I was setting I realized that I use the same products every week. I used to think I would get bored by this, but now that I've found my "miracle" products I don't really want to change them around.

Are you a products person or a technique person? Do you have 1 or 2 products per category that you use week in and week out, or do you have multiple products that work with your hair regimen and you can switch them out depending on what you pick up?
 

coilyhaircutie

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Under the dryer. I used very little product (It's a 10 Daily Conditioner) to set as my hair felt super moisturized after rinsing out my DC (It's a 10 Miracle Mask and coconut oil). My ear covers came so I'm under the Pibbs at 70! I hope to be dry in an hour.

As I was setting I realized that I use the same products every week. I used to think I would get bored by this, but now that I've found my "miracle" products I don't really want to change them around.

Are you a products person or a technique person? Do you have 1 or 2 products per category that you use week in and week out, or do you have multiple products that work with your hair regimen and you can switch them out depending on what you pick up?

toaster sorry to hear setting products don't work for you. It's always lame when a new product I'm excited about doesn't work. To answer your Q in bold, I would say that I prefer to have staple products that I use week in and week out. I've used the same shampoo and conditioner since last year, I've used the kinky curly leave-in and gel for forever (ok 5 years, but that is a long time), and I've used some version of coconut oil to seal and oil my scalp for about 4 years now. I've gone from Dabur vatika oil to regular cooking coconut oil (was ok for school but makes me smell too coconutty at work haha) to hairveda vatika frosting now. The product that I've been switching up the most this year is my setting product, since I've never regularly rollerset before until January of this year. After getting and trying both the Camille Rose Curl Maker gel and the Camille Rose Whipped Aloe Vera, I think I've found my setting staples <3
 

coilyhaircutie

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Hey girls!
I tried a new setting product this week. It was the Camille Rose Naturals Aloe Whipped Hair Gel. I usually use the Camille Rose Curl Maker Gel, but I felt like it wasn't giving my hair enough shine and that the glycerin in it was slightly stripping my hair. I think the weather is too dry here for that right now, and that it may be a better product for the summer, when there's more humidity.

The Aloe Whipped Hair Gel is a white, thick product- the consistency reminds me of a rich dessert mousse :) hehe. When I put it on my hair, it was really heavy, and I thought it wasn't going to work as I rolled my hair up in curlformers. But I was pleasantly surprised the next day! The CR aloe vera gel gave me shiny, defined hair without the slight crunch of the Curl Maker. My hair was soft to the touch and moisturized. The shine and hold was comparable to Lottabody. I was impressed. Especially since the ingredients in the whipped aloe vera gel are all-natural.

I still have about one-quarter of the jar left of the Curl Maker, so I think I may use it until it runs out for my perm rod sets. I'm not sure how the whipped aloe vera gel will perform on a perm rod set since it's sooo thick-- I'm afraid it might take forever to dry. But the results would be worth it. I think for now, I'll use the whipped aloe vera gel for curlformers and the curl maker gel for perm rod sets. I'll report back once my curl maker runs out and I'm just using the aloe vera gel.

Once my Curl Maker runs out, there's no way I can recycle the pump jar it came in and put the whipped aloe vera gel in it- it is way to thick for a pump jar hahaha

alright enough blabbering on- pics:
look at that shine & curl definition - with flash
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without flash - still shiny
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pincurling for the night. we'll see how this goes
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I pincurled nearly all my hair. Then, in the back, I used one flexirod rolled all the way up, one satin roller rolled all the way up, and one flexirod rolled half-way up lol. I'm experimenting to see which sets the best loll....smh the things we do for our hair!!
 

ElevatedEnergy

Rooted Yet Flowing
toaster Are you a products person or a technique person?

Both but more so technique. You can use the best products with the best ingredients but if your technique is mediocre than products really don't matter. I like products that give me predictable results and can compliment my technique. Hope that makes sense.

Do you have 1 or 2 products per category that you use week in and week out, or do you have multiple products that work with your hair regimen and you can switch them out depending on what you pick up?

I have 1 product in each category that I use with the exception of conditioners. I normally keep 2 of those on hand. Every other month, I clarify and do a protein treatment so that's pretty much the only time I use products out of my normal product rotation. Products don't excite me much...styling does...I just need the products I do use to get the job done. Clean my scalp, condition my strands, keep the moisture in and I'm good.
 
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toaster

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I love freshly set hair! My hair is always so soft and bouncy when I don't use setting lotions/gel. Never going back. Anyway it still took 80 minutes to dry. I guess my hair is just wet, but the ear covers are great!



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coilyhaircutie

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toaster your hair looks so thick, shiny & yummy!!
how do you get it to stay and not pouf up without a setting product? that's the main reason I use gels- otherwise my hair would frizz out.
 

toaster

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coilyhaircutie

Your set was gorgeous lady! I think if I wanted to wear my roller set curls out I would need some sort of setting agent and the. I would have to re-wash during the middle of the week. Instead I use my set as a base for four braids or twists and wear my hair in waves. I do them at night after I moisturize and seal. The product I use (coconut oil, entwine butter cream, bask sevenfold butter) gets my hair just wet enough that by the morning it sets in whatever style I put it in. Bantu knots work as well!
 

rawsilk

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lulu97 Thanks for the details. Hate to sound stupid but can't remember what SM is -- Silk Motions? From Sally's? I don't know why I am so reluctant to try this -- been saying I am going to do it since I started exclusively rollersetting last summer. Maybe it's because I seem to recall that, as you mentioned, if you don't get the amount left-in exactly right, it can seem like your hair takes forever to dry. I might try to airset this weekend (much as I luv, luv, luv my professional dryer).
rawsilk I will try to explain it without confusing you and leaving you cross-eyed. lol
The only rinse out conditioner we had in the house was SM restorative conditioner so I used that. If you are familiar with it, it comes in a pump and the pump disperses very little product. So keep that in mind for now.
I divided my hair in half (top and bottom horizontally) and each half got maybe 10 pumps per section. It sounds like a lot but it's really not since like I mentioned before the pump gives out a very small amount of conditioner. When I smoothed with my hands and spritzed with water, it became foamy and very slippery which is why I didn't need to use a comb. I was skeptical about going back to this particular conditioner after not using it for over 2 years, but I'm so glad I did. It will be my new love for when I need to do this cheat set for updo's. My hair is still moisturized and soft! The downside was it wasn't all the way dry within the ponytails even after sitting under the dryer for an hour but I just threw on a scarf and let it finished drying overnight after removing the flexi rods. I didn't even touch the ponytail part until the next day.
 

ElevatedEnergy

Rooted Yet Flowing
lulu97 Thanks for the details. Hate to sound stupid but can't remember what SM is -- Silk Motions? From Sally's? I don't know why I am so reluctant to try this -- been saying I am going to do it since I started exclusively rollersetting last summer. Maybe it's because I seem to recall that, as you mentioned, if you don't get the amount left-in exactly right, it can seem like your hair takes forever to dry. I might try to airset this weekend (much as I luv, luv, luv my professional dryer).

rawsilk SM is for Shea Moisture. I picked mine up from Sally's but I've seen them practically everywhere like Target, CVS, Walgreens etc. I used the rinse out conditioner with the brown label. Like you mentioned, I imagine if you use too much then it would take forever to dry. My theory is use a light hand with any product that you plan on leaving in and a more generous hand with products you plan on rinsing out.

I don't know about airdrying any kind of set. For me that would take about 3 days and would be really uncomfortable to sleep in. lol Plus I think sets just look better when dried with heat. It's almost like the heat locks in shine.
 

toaster

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lulu97
Even though my hair took longer than an hour to dry I noticed the hotter temperature allowed my roots to dry straighter and the curls were shinier. I was able to pineapple last night instead of using the Bantu knots and got similar results.
 

ElevatedEnergy

Rooted Yet Flowing
lulu97 Even though my hair took longer than an hour to dry I noticed the hotter temperature allowed my roots to dry straighter and the curls were shinier. I was able to pineapple last night instead of using the Bantu knots and got similar results.

toaster Yay for alternate techniques! I'm going to try the pineapple method one day to maintain my curls.
 

faithVA

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rawsilk SM is for Shea Moisture. I picked mine up from Sally's but I've seen them practically everywhere like Target, CVS, Walgreens etc. I used the rinse out conditioner with the brown label. Like you mentioned, I imagine if you use too much then it would take forever to dry. My theory is use a light hand with any product that you plan on leaving in and a more generous hand with products you plan on rinsing out.

I don't know about airdrying any kind of set. For me that would take about 3 days and would be really uncomfortable to sleep in. lol Plus I think sets just look better when dried with heat. It's almost like the heat locks in shine.

I also think that the dryer dries the hair before it has a chance to shrink up too much which is why it looks straighter. Even though it is wraps with a roller over time the hair starts to shrink up. The longer it takes to dry, the more shrinkage you see in the final set so the set doesn't look as smooth.
 

coilyhaircutie

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toaster
GettingKinky

thank you!! :) just trying to get on your levels. my hair wants to grow up and be as long and healthy as both of yours!

coilyhaircutie

Your set was gorgeous lady! I think if I wanted to wear my roller set curls out I would need some sort of setting agent and the. I would have to re-wash during the middle of the week. Instead I use my set as a base for four braids or twists and wear my hair in waves. I do them at night after I moisturize and seal. The product I use (coconut oil, entwine butter cream, bask sevenfold butter) gets my hair just wet enough that by the morning it sets in whatever style I put it in. Bantu knots work as well!

toaster - oooooh. that makes so much sense! I was wondering how so many people got away with not using a setting lotion. It's because you use your set as a base! Oh how cool. So do you do four loose braids or four cornrows? Do you wear those out or in a bun?

normally I wear my hair out for the first two or three days, then I bun or protective style until wash day.
 

coilyhaircutie

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I also think that the dryer dries the hair before it has a chance to shrink up too much which is why it looks straighter. Even though it is wraps with a roller over time the hair starts to shrink up. The longer it takes to dry, the more shrinkage you see in the final set so the set doesn't look as smooth.

faithVA interesting theory. i agree! my sets are shinier and straighter when i use heat.
 

toaster

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coilyhaircutie

If only I could cornrow! I could probably get away with two cornrows, but I do four loose braids. I just braid it up at night and let it loose in the morning. If I'm just going to bun I put my hair in two twists and put the bonnet on.
 

ElevatedEnergy

Rooted Yet Flowing
I also think that the dryer dries the hair before it has a chance to shrink up too much which is why it looks straighter. Even though it is wraps with a roller over time the hair starts to shrink up. The longer it takes to dry, the more shrinkage you see in the final set so the set doesn't look as smooth.

That makes so much sense!
 

bronzephoenix

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Set my twa yesterday with JC wrap & roll and air dried...

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I intend to silk wrap afterward, but if it's cute I might wear the curls for a day or so. I'm excited because I've never set my hair at this length!

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Babygrowth

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Set my twa yesterday with JC wrap & roll and air dried...

I intend to silk wrap afterward, but if it's cute I might wear the curls for a day or so. I'm excited because I've never set my hair at this length!

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Can't wait to see your results!
 

GettingKinky

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My professional flat iron from last Thursday is still going strong. I was out in high humidity for an hour yesterday and my hair is still straight. My roots have reverted from working out but that's it. She used a fine tooth comb and high heat (450). If the heat weren't so bad for my hair I'd go to her every 2 weeks and transition from texlaxed to natural.

When I roller set my hair it doesn't stay smooth for nearly this long. Does that mean my dryer isn't hot enough?

How can I get my set hair to behave like my flat ironed hair? Here's my braidout today. It's so smooth I love it.
 

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toaster

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GettingKinky

I think that might be a texture thing. Like, if the texture of your hair is already smooth, you can just use the tension from the dryer and the heat from the dryer to get your hair flat iron straight. If you have more texture, you might need another method (saran wrap, flat iron roots only, bantu knots, etc).

At least, that's what I've been telling myself. It might be that my technique is awful and I could achieve bone straight hair just with rollers, but I don't think so.
 

bronzephoenix

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Update:) I think I'm going to be addicted to roller-setting. It's so much less fuss with shorter hair and one texture instead of two! After removing rollers hair was really stretched with a nice fluffy curl. image-4155987852.jpg Roots after silk wrap. image-3020386710.jpg Threw in some flat twists. I need to buy some pretty gold bobby pins for this style! image-2596831523.jpg image-2944124749.jpg image-1359743138.jpg Loving it!!! image-1284934208.jpg Sent from my iPhone using LHCF
 

Babygrowth

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Update:) I think I'm going to be addicted to roller-setting. It's so much less fuss with shorter hair and one texture instead of two! After removing rollers hair was really stretched with a nice fluffy curl. Roots after silk wrap. Threw in some flat twists. I need to buy some pretty gold bobby pins for this style! Loving it!!! Sent from my iPhone using LHCF

Looks amazing!
 
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