what happened to the no heat straight plates thread ckw and launch?

HairPleezeGrow

Natural.MediumFine.3c.
I had to contact (send an email) to kickstarter and amazon because tge card I used for payment I no longer have. I need to know how I will receive my refund.
 

knbradley

New Member
Good evening ALL,

I wanted to take a moment to reach out and address your comments and concerns. I do not frequent the forums as often as I used to because I have found that addressing the constant false rumors and naysayers is a never ending battle; in the same token, there have been several CWK Girls supporters that originated from the LHCF and I want to make certain that the questions and concerns of those are addressed.

I would like to be clear and state that I absolutely did not steal the idea of the Straight Plates from another developer. My ideas are my own. The claims of ownership from an outside source are alleged and our attorney's are working to resolve the matter. As a business owner, I owed it to my family, my team, and my investors to do my due diligence. The decision to refund each and every investor was made because we did not feel it was fair for our investors to have to wait, with their investments in limbo, while the matter was addressed. Additionally, for legal reasons, I was initially advised not to conduct any interviews or make additional statements regarding the product. In the mist of it all, I made it a point to be upfront and honest with my investors. Furthermore, all updated information was and still is listed on all of our social media sites. Reports and articles that insinuate that our campaign was a scam were false and based on speculation and incomplete information. We have since spoken on record with several notable natural hair bloggers. Here are links:

http://www.naturalhairrules.com/cwk-straight-plates-scam/
http://trialsntresses.com/natural-hair/cwk-plates-founder-speaks-rumors


Since the TEMPORARY halt in production my team has initiated 300 refunds. As read on this thread, natural hair blogs, and our social media sites- several backers have received their refunds. Every dollar will be refunded. No exceptions. We are not by any means thieves. I can admit that we got ahead of the process and made some missteps along the way. Because myself and my team were thrusted into the spotlight after the Kickstarter campaign 500+ people witnessed our journey. I have learned to stop apologizing for every mistake and to instead use them as tidbits of wisdom that sharpen my business savvy. Although our first launch was not perfect, we ask that you understand that we are human. Our team is working very hard behind the scenes to make certain that each investment is protected. We are not a failed business, but instead, a growing one. We hear you! We will bring an innovative tool to the natural hair community.

I thank each and everyone of you for your investment and encouragement. My team and I do not take this for granted- we are grateful. I will check in to the LHCF for the remainder of the week. Please post in the thread or send a private message if my team and I can help in any way.

Best,

K.B
 

knbradley

New Member
No refund for me. Going by her updates, mine has not been requested yet.
Thank you for your patience. We are working to issue refunds as quickly and efficiently as possible. Do not hesitate to contact us if you have any further questions.

Be sure to follow our social media sites for up to the minute updates.
 

knbradley

New Member
Thanks Foxglove, will see if its posts tomorrow. I did go ahead and verify my account too, in case if that was part of the problem.

JC posted an update but it seems Kelechi hasn't returned her emails, and only disabled the shop portion of her site once JC warned her that she feels obligated to call her out as a scammer. http://www.thenaturalhavenbloom.com/2014/11/were-cwk-girls-straight-plates-scam.html

If we're getting refunds I don't get why they have to ignore her...I don't think Kelechi realizes how badly this will affect her business if she truly intends on eventually putting out a product. :nono:
Thank you for your support. Did your refund post? Please send a private message with your information if you have not. I will have my team look into this matter.

Please note that article connected to the link is false. The author reached out to me during a period when the CWK Girls team was not at liberty to publicly conduct interviews. The article was based on incomplete information and speculation. While the CWK Girls team appreciates their initial support and wish that we could have had the early opportunity to provide them with factual information. Here are links to articles written by notable bloggers that had the opportunity to speak with myself and my team.

http://www.naturalhairrules.com/cwk-straight-plates-scam/
http://trialsntresses.com/natural-hair/cwk-plates-founder-speaks-rumors

Thank you again for your support!
 

knbradley

New Member
There are people in the FB group asking her how they will get a refund if they pre-ordered on the actual website and not through kickstarter....so there are people who have ordered and continue to order via the CWK website...just a matter of how many and how their money is currently being used...And their question has gone unanswered.
Good evening,

Thank you for your support. After placing a temporary halt on the CWK Straight Plates, we addressed each FB via private message. This allowed us an opportunity to gather the personal information needed to accurately answer each question. The questions that applied to all investors we answered within the post for all investors to read.

Do you have any questions that the CWK Girls team can address?
 

knbradley

New Member
She is setting allllll this up for when the money "Runs out" and she can't finish the refunds. Then she can point back to how she "tried to do the right thing" but cannot continue because the money is gone. That's why she keeps vocalizing herself as this Angel Do-Gooder...so it will be just that much easier to explain away why only a portion of customers received their funds back.

And I pointed out yesterday that she is STILL taking money and orders on her website which is the DEFINITION OF SCAM and also against FTC rules...
Thank you for keeping up with the CWK Girls campaign!

Please note that we have initiated over 250+ refunds. Several backers have publicly stated that they have received their funds. All funds will be refunded. While we worked to deactivate the site no purchases were made; therefore, there were no funds taken from here to repay investors. I believe that our current actions speak loudly and indicate that we are working hard to ensure that our investors are protected.
 

JaneBond007

New Member
What is the date the campaign ended or is it still running?

kickstarter.com

Can Kickstarter refund the money if a project is unable to fulfill?

No. Kickstarter doesn't issue refunds as transactions are between backers and creators directly. Creators receive all funds (less fees) soon after their campaign ends. Creators have the ability to refund backers through Amazon Payments (for US projects) and Kickstarter (for non-US projects).
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amazonpayments.com

How Do I Issue Refunds?

Refunds are issued through the Amazon Payments portal at https://payments.amazon.com.

  1. Log on to your Amazon Payments Account at https://payments.amazon.com.
  2. From the Overview page, find the transaction you want, and click Details.
  3. Click the Refund button. You can also enter a Partial Amount (for example, to refund just the shipping amount) and a description for the refund. You can issue refunds up to 60 days after the payment completed.
If the payment was received more than 60 days prior and the Refund button is no longer available, please contact Amazon Payments support for assistance completing the refund.


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I did't contribute but would have purchased the finished product. In reading this information, it seems to me that the project manager is dragging her feet in hopes that the 60 days are passed and that there is no way to issue refunds. It my hunch is wrong, then so be it. I owe no explanations for speculations. But this is inexcusable. If I were Kelechi, I'd contact Amazon immediately to find a more expeditious way to handle the refunds and get all 500 of them out immediately. 5% fee from Kickstarter is on the project manager and should come out of her personal funds.
 
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knbradley

New Member
What is the date the campaign ended or is it still running?

kickstarter.com

Can Kickstarter refund the money if a project is unable to fulfill?

No. Kickstarter doesn't issue refunds as transactions are between backers and creators directly. Creators receive all funds (less fees) soon after their campaign ends. Creators have the ability to refund backers through Amazon Payments (for US projects) and Kickstarter (for non-US projects).

amazonpayments.com

How Do I Issue Refunds?

Refunds are issued through the Amazon Payments portal at https://payments.amazon.com.

  1. Log on to your Amazon Payments Account at https://payments.amazon.com.
  2. From the Overview page, find the transaction you want, and click Details.
  3. Click the Refund button. You can also enter a Partial Amount (for example, to refund just the shipping amount) and a description for the refund. You can issue refunds up to 60 days after the payment completed.
If the payment was received more than 60 days prior and the Refund button is no longer available, please contact Amazon Payments support for assistance completing the refund.


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I did't contribute but would have purchased the finished product. In reading this information, it seems to me that the project manager is dragging her feet in hopes that the 60 days are passed and that there is no way to issue refunds. It my hunch is wrong, then so be it. I owe no explanations for speculations. But this is inexcusable. If I were Kelechi, I'd contact Amazon immediately to find a more expeditious way to handle the refunds and get all 500 of them out immediately. 5% fee from Kickstarter is on the project manager and should come out of her personal funds.

The campaign was successfully funded in June. It is no longer running. We did not anticipate the patent issue to arise and were close to preparing for mass production. Because we are many months past the 60 days, we are tasked with manually submitting refund request to Amazon. As we have tried, there is no way to efficiently expedite the refund process.
 
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JaneBond007

New Member
The campaign was successfully funded in June. It is no longer running.

knbradley
Does that mean you got the full funding? If so, why is it taking so long to refund the money? Are you not using Amazon.com? Do they limit refunds to 20 at a time/per day? Could you not step it up?
 
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DivaDee62

Well-Known Member
Good evening,

Thank you for your support. After placing a temporary halt on the CWK Straight Plates, we addressed each FB via private message. This allowed us an opportunity to gather the personal information needed to accurately answer each question. The questions that applied to all investors we answered within the post for all investors to read.

Do you have any questions that the CWK Girls team can address?

Oh so now you want to come in here huffing and puffing? Girl please. Where were you when I was emailing for a MONTH to get my refund? The refund you promised me was already said and done but actually wasn't? Girl GTFOH trying to do damage control and control your message. You showed yourself and your weakness all throughout the campaign. Go run back to the FB group and let your family gas your head up about what a great businesswomen you are. You are pathetic, a liar, and a fraud. Period point blank. I will not cower from you or your Captain Save A ___ Caping fans on this board. No. No. and No.

You don't want it from me. Take a breath. I suggest that you don't quote me, cause I will give you not what you want but what you need.
 

JaneBond007

New Member
Silence???/ Hellloooooooo! Anybody still out there???? I asked with respect. Why is it taking so long if those are the deets on the Kickstart and Amazonpayments line?


Edit: Sorry, just saw that. OK. So, it would seem to me that you would take off a day or two from your regular job and process those payments. It should not take that long for computer-literate staff. What is the process outside the 60 days, then? Could you not contact Amazon for their help or their bank? I don't fully comprehend what is the issue that holds up the process, like, specifically.
 
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knbradley

New Member
Oh so now you want to come in here huffing and puffing? Girl please. Where were you when I was emailing for a MONTH to get my refund? The refund you promised me was already said and done but actually wasn't? Girl GTFOH trying to do damage control and control your message. You showed yourself and your weakness all throughout the campaign. Go run back to the FB group and let your family gas your head up about what a great businesswomen you are. You are pathetic, a liar, and a fraud. Period point blank. I will not cower from you or your Captain Save A ___ Caping fans on this board. No. No. and No.

You don't want it from me. Take a breath. I suggest that you don't quote me, cause I will give you not what you want but what you need.
We hate that you had a negative experience. We are working to improve our methods for contact to ensure speedier customer service.


Thank you for your initial support.
 

knbradley

New Member
Silence???/ Hellloooooooo! Anybody still out there???? I asked with respect. Why is it taking so long if those are the deets on the Kickstart and Amazonpayments line?


Edit: Sorry, just saw that. OK. So, it would seem to me that you would take off a day or two from your regular job and process those payments. It should not take that long for computer-literate staff. What is the process outside the 60 days, then? Could you not contact Amazon for their help or their bank? I don't fully comprehend what is the issue that holds up the process, like, specifically.
We are tasked with manually submitting transactions numbers to Amazon. We have toyed with the process and attempted to refund a larger number. When doing this we found that some transactions were not processed. We would then have to go back and resubmit the request. In submitting 20 at a time we can effectively manage and track each transaction. This also allows us an opportunity to offer a higher level of customer service to our investors as they too are able to track their refund based on our individual request. If they then have any questions or do not receive the stated refund we can address it before the next scheduled grouping. This is the submission process per Amazon.
 
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JaneBond007

New Member
We are tasked with manually submitting transactions numbers to Amazon. We have toyed with the process and attempted to refund a larger number. When doing this we found that some transactions were not processed. We would then have to go back and resubmit the request. In submitting 20 at a time we can effectively manage and track each transaction. This also allows us an opportunity to offer a higher level of customer service to our investors as they too are able to track their refund based on our individual request. If they then have any questions or do not receive the stated refund we can address it before the next scheduled grouping. This is the submission process per Amazon.



Amazon, as big a corporation and tech as they are, can't process more than 20 transactions at a time and people are waiting one month and beyond for their refunds? It's all electronic...it hits the banks and they will see it online. Maybe there were errors in submitting on your part? If they do 20 at a time, make several batches of 20, keep a spread sheet with the proper identifiable info and go from there. It's nothing to process data 100's daily. Unless they tell you that they can only process refunds up to 20 daily, then there is no excuse but to take the time to do it. This is your responsibility and these good people made a faith effort to help you achieve your goals as a black entrepreneur. :nono: It were me as a backer, I'd call Amazon and see about getting my money.

@SuchaLady

There's no "y'all are being nasty for no reason" in my posts. I am business-oriented and want the deets - the specific deets. I think people should be given the truth and I am respectful. However, being respectful doesn't equate to platitudes etc. FACTS. Saves time and energy.
 
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