California Music Teacher Arrested For Beating The Brakes Off Disrespectful Student.

RoundEyedGirl504

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Interesting that just a day ago my sister, who is a middle school teacher, was talking about the behavior in her class. Most teachers in her school deal with this but she said her colleague, a Black male teacher, is often the target from Black and Latino male students.

There has been some research about this, and the fact that male teachers (definitely Black male teachers) are treated as the go to disciplinarians in addition to their normal duties. I can see how that would burn a person out and this guy is 64? He is sick and tired I guarantee.
 

Theresamonet

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Whew lordt. I realllllllly wish he had chosen to walk away. When I worked in a school in a rougher part of the city, I felt my blood pressure rising one time with this one lil girl deciding to call me out my name. I calmly stepped out of the room and called for the security guard down the hall cause I felt the spirit of throwing hands coming down on me. She was escorted out yelling all kinds of profanities, but we actually had a wonderful intervention set up later by our social worker in which she apologized. Our relationship was great after that.

It’s not for the faint of heart and any young black folks I can catch the ear of, I tell them to stay far, far away from teaching. Particularly young bw because we seem to have an inclination towards these service careers. Not to sound cliche, but societal norms of decency and civility are all the way eroded and you can’t fix the myriad of social ills these kiddos bring into the classroom. #freeriley

I used to want to be a teacher, but two of my teachers talked me out of it. I’m so glad they did.
 

Theresamonet

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I’m really interested in how he’s going to put his life back together after this. $150k in donations is wonderful, but he won’t be going on vacation with that money. Most will be eaten up by legal fees, and the rest probably to not lose his house or some similar financial obligation. Y’all think he’s going to lose his pension?
 

Shimmie

"God is the Only Truth -- Period"
Staff member
I am so sorry to see how this happened. :nono: What the teacher should have done was leave the class; go to the principal's office, obtain assistance to have the student removed from his class. Period! Sitting there allowing himself to fume and then physically react was not the way to handle the situation.

Unfortunately, no matter how wrong a student is, being hit by an adult (even their own parents) puts the adult in an illegal situation. What does it prove that a grown man was able to punch a student, much smaller, younger than him. It takes a bigger man to follow protocol, by removing himself from the situation and getting assistance to move the student out.
 

Leeda.the.Paladin

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What does it prove that a grown man was able to punch a student, much smaller, younger than him. It takes a bigger man to follow protocol, by removing himself from the situation and getting assistance to move the student ou

I don’t think it was about proving anything tho. The man reached a breaking point. He is a human who probably has quelled his emotions and reactions for years. The racial slur was probably a sucker punch that illicited an involuntary response. We can’t expect teachers to keep taking abuse without any I’ll effects on the teachers’ physche and mental well being.
 

BrownEyez22

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I’m really interested in how he’s going to put his life back together after this. $150k in donations is wonderful, but he won’t be going on vacation with that money. Most will be eaten up by legal fees, and the rest probably to not lose his house or some similar financial obligation. Y’all think he’s going to lose his pension?

I think someone may step up and do it as pro bono. He's in education and public service.
 

Brwnbeauti

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I am so sorry to see how this happened. :nono: What the teacher should have done was leave the class; go to the principal's office, obtain assistance to have the student removed from his class. Period! Sitting there allowing himself to fume and then physically react was not the way to handle the situation.

Unfortunately, no matter how wrong a student is, being hit by an adult (even their own parents) puts the adult in an illegal situation. What does it prove that a grown man was able to punch a student, much smaller, younger than him. It takes a bigger man to follow protocol, by removing himself from the situation and getting assistance to move the student out.
He’d have been in trouble for leaving students unsupervised. Whoever he was calling should’ve shown up sooner.
My students respect me enough not to go there, but I don’t think I’d have the resolve to ignore being called a b and a n and being hit with a basketball- especially if I knew the kid woukdnt get a consequence. Either way I’d likely have been out of a job.
Y’all pray I find another job come May because I’m tired.
 

Shimmie

"God is the Only Truth -- Period"
Staff member
I don’t think it was about proving anything tho. The man reached a breaking point. He is a human who probably has quelled his emotions and reactions for years. The racial slur was probably a sucker punch that illicited an involuntary response. We can’t expect teachers to keep taking abuse without any I’ll effects on the teachers’ physche and mental well being.

Hi @Leeda.the.Paladin . I'm listening to you. :yep: So this is not a rebuttal type of response. My response is truly not about you nor anyone else's. What I'm sharing is directed towards this man's reactions. In advance, these are for you. :rose::rose::rose::rose: :rose:

I do not support what this teacher did. As an adult / professional, we leave the situation and obtain help from the office to remove the student, instead of sitting there fuming. When a kid is up in your face, have him removed by those in authority. All this man did was show other students that 'violence' is the solution. How did this 'kid' learn to behave in such a manner? He learned being exposed to other negative examples. He was immulating what he's been taught by others. Let me be clear, that I'm not taking up for the student. This kid is dead wrong. However, it is still protocol and simply a matter of common sense to not allow oneself to engage in violent behaviour. Avoid it at all costs.

Just because someone calls you a name, especially one that's nothing new. So what? It's not worth fighting and getting locked up over. Walk away and get help. The man looks like a pure fool hitting a student much smaller and younger than him. I don't sympathize with him at all. That kid is nothing to lose a reputation over. I've taught in the school system and when a student gets disrespectful, that when you call / go to the office for assistance, or call 911 if the situation is too far out of control. That's how it should have been done.
 

Bette Davis Eyes

The "OG" Product Junkie
And this is why I did not become a teacher.

I was 13 and an 8 year old told me to go F myself. I slapped her so hard I didn't recall my hand even reaching out. My mind blanked at F and came back when her neck snapped back and she started screaming. She went to go get her sister and I waited livid. Her sister asked me nicely to come get her next time and to please don't hit her. I agreed but my ears and hands reacted before my brain. I was only 13. Nah suh, couldn't been me.

His parents should be ashamed.
 

Zuleika

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Staff member
Hi @Leeda.the.Paladin . When a kid is up in your face, have him removed by those in authority.

The problem here is that this man, the teacher, is the authority - and this child has gone way, way, beyond being removed. He’s no longer disrespecting the classroom, he's actively attacking the teacher (shouting the n word and hitting him with a basketball).

Frankly this child doesn’t seem to recognise or respect authority at all. Sometimes this here, below, is necessary. :look:

 

Shimmie

"God is the Only Truth -- Period"
Staff member
The problem here is that this man, the teacher, is the authority - and this child has gone way, way, beyond being removed. He’s no longer disrespecting the classroom, he's actively attacking the teacher (shouting the n word and hitting him with a basketball).

Frankly this child doesn’t seem to recognise or respect authority at all. Sometimes this here, below, is necessary. :look:


Oh no you did not take out the 'bat'... :rofl: :rofl:
 

Leeda.the.Paladin

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this is not a rebuttal type of response. My response is truly not about you nor anyone else's. What I'm sharing is directed towards this man's reactions. In advance, these are for you. :rose::rose::rose::rose: :rose:
I understand! I never read a mean word from you, and I know your intent :)
 

IslandMummy

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I am so sorry to see how this happened. :nono: What the teacher should have done was leave the class; go to the principal's office, obtain assistance to have the student removed from his class. Period! Sitting there allowing himself to fume and then physically react was not the way to handle the situation.

Unfortunately, no matter how wrong a student is, being hit by an adult (even their own parents) puts the adult in an illegal situation. What does it prove that a grown man was able to punch a student, much smaller, younger than him. It takes a bigger man to follow protocol, by removing himself from the situation and getting assistance to move the student out.

He’s not allowed to leave the classroom.
 
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