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What's in your leave in? Would you mind sharing the process you use to make it?
Who Has Gained Inches From Rice Water???
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What's in your leave in? Would you mind sharing the process you use to make it?
kxlot79
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I put .5 cup of rice in 2.5 cups of water in a glass lidded jar for 3 days in a cool, dark cabinet. Then I refrigerate it until I use it all up in an 8oz spray bottle.
I add 6oz rice water to 2 oz of nettle tea (about 3 tbs nettle leaves to 16 oz of water), then top with about 10 drops peppermint essential oil and 10 drops of citrus (combo or single of: lemon, grapefruit, orange, &/or lime) essential oil(s). Shake, spray morning &/or night almost daily and my 8oz mix lasts 7-10 days.
Repeat.
I’ve been doing this for about 12 weeks now. No intention of stopping anytime soon.
I refrigerate my spray bottle and rice water and nettle tea and have no issues with spoilage or mold. Honestly, I rarely have contamination issues with homemade concoctions.
HTH!
I add 6oz rice water to 2 oz of nettle tea (about 3 tbs nettle leaves to 16 oz of water), then top with about 10 drops peppermint essential oil and 10 drops of citrus (combo or single of: lemon, grapefruit, orange, &/or lime) essential oil(s). Shake, spray morning &/or night almost daily and my 8oz mix lasts 7-10 days.
Repeat.
I’ve been doing this for about 12 weeks now. No intention of stopping anytime soon.
I refrigerate my spray bottle and rice water and nettle tea and have no issues with spoilage or mold. Honestly, I rarely have contamination issues with homemade concoctions.
HTH!
I was going to add some commentary about those screenshots, but I got sleepy. lol
I've watched that video a couple times before as well, a few years back. I must not have been paying attention or have a bad memory, because I swear this is the first I recall hearing about them adding tea oil to the wash. An important ingredient as the video says.
I watched video to see if it says how exactly they prepared the water and how long they let it ferment. They state that they let it ferment for 7 days (), but the preparation is still unclear to me. It says they take the water left over from washing their rice and then "after being baked and fermented by the fire, the water is ready to be used". So... Does that mean they boil the rice and then ferment it next to a heat source for 7 days? How is the fire incorporated into the fermenting? Maybe its just a bad sentence, and it just means its baked (boiled) by the fire and then fermented... After that they add the pomelo peels and boil it together. And then before using it to wash, they add tea seed oil, which I think is Camellia oil.
So I went ahead and bought some camellia oil and I really like it! I wish I hadn't waited so long to try it. I got it yesterday and just put it on dry hair. I did put too much but it soaked in overnight and I didn't get that crunchy dry feeling that I get from most oils.
So I think this stuff definitely enhances the effects of rice water. It made my hair even softer. I'm 4b natural. It also is supposed to be good for scalp and promote hair growth. So by them adding tea seed (camellia) to the mix they're probably using rice water on steroids, lol.
@Theresamonet Have you tried this oil before?
I did my rice water rinse over the weekend as a prepoo and had even better results than the other methods because my hair didn't have that starchy and coated feeling accompanying the benefits. I was due for a rinse anyway so the real test will come next week and the following weeks to see if I can do it as a weekly prewash.
Theresamonet
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I use (have used) camellia oil in my skincare routine as an oil cleanser. That’s why I remembered seeing it called tea seed oil. I have added the oil to my hair before when I’ve had excess on my hands. And it is nice. However, it performs similarly to argan oil on my hair. And argan is more readily available and cheaper.
I've never used argan oil. Are you using the Japanese camellia oil? I know that one is very expensive. I bought the Chinese camellia and it's pretty cheap but I heard the Japanese one is even better. I just figured since the Yao women are in China I'd go with that one.
Theresamonet
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I’ve used all of them. I think there are 3 types. The Japanese one is thicker, iirc. The Japanese camellia flower is not used to make tea, though. So it isn’t called tea oil or tea seed oil. It goes by something else. Something Japanese. Lol
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PureSilver
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I’d like to make my contribution to this thread by simply saying IT WORKS!
Changes I’ve seen in my hair in the past month
1. Hair density has increased by at least 40%
2. My hair growth has definitely increased I’m seeing .5” vs .25” every 2 weeks.
3. My hair detangles with so much more ease and my curls have super definition.
4. It gives my hair INSTANT moisture and softness after each application.
How I use it.
I try to apply at least 5 days per week I may fall short a day or two in each week but for the most part I try to stay consistent. I never rinse after application
I always apply an oil to my scalp afterwards, it gives added moisture and I feel it activating the rice water treatment.
I wear protective styles 100% my hair is always in cornrows and I keep them in at least 2 weeks each time sometimes stretching to 4 weeks theses days. If I’m stretching my cornrows beyond 2 weeks, I wash at the beginning of the 3rd week with ACV followed by CON honey shampoo. I condition with Silicon mix protein conditioner or African Pride heat activated mask whilst in the shower then rinse. My final rinse is my 48hr fermented rice water. Once my hair is 70% dry I use a leave in spray or cream usually Aphogee green tea restucturiser or cream of nature honey detangler then seal with any oil I choose that day.
After trying rice water I’ve decided to not purchase any more “growth aids” at least for the rest of this year.
I hope this helps someone and I’ll be posting comparison pics in April.
Changes I’ve seen in my hair in the past month
1. Hair density has increased by at least 40%
2. My hair growth has definitely increased I’m seeing .5” vs .25” every 2 weeks.
3. My hair detangles with so much more ease and my curls have super definition.
4. It gives my hair INSTANT moisture and softness after each application.
How I use it.
I try to apply at least 5 days per week I may fall short a day or two in each week but for the most part I try to stay consistent. I never rinse after application
I always apply an oil to my scalp afterwards, it gives added moisture and I feel it activating the rice water treatment.
I wear protective styles 100% my hair is always in cornrows and I keep them in at least 2 weeks each time sometimes stretching to 4 weeks theses days. If I’m stretching my cornrows beyond 2 weeks, I wash at the beginning of the 3rd week with ACV followed by CON honey shampoo. I condition with Silicon mix protein conditioner or African Pride heat activated mask whilst in the shower then rinse. My final rinse is my 48hr fermented rice water. Once my hair is 70% dry I use a leave in spray or cream usually Aphogee green tea restucturiser or cream of nature honey detangler then seal with any oil I choose that day.
After trying rice water I’ve decided to not purchase any more “growth aids” at least for the rest of this year.
I hope this helps someone and I’ll be posting comparison pics in April.
Everything Zen
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I just tried my first treatment a few minutes ago using Ms. Debbie’s method. There’s only a mild odor after 24 hours. My hair is in need of some TLC due to a severe Vitamin D deficiency and stress from my old job and my scalp is a hot mess with seborrheic dermatitis. If rice water does half of what everyone says it does I will be pleased.
Thanks for sharing! I don't want this thread to die out I am loving rice water so much right now. I have some fermenting right now for tomorrow's wash day.
Are you using the 48hr fermented rice water as your leave in as well? Do you add any essential oils for smell to your rice water?
Hey EZ! Do you plan on doing this weekly as well?
Everything Zen
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^^^ Yes- I’m going to follow Ms. Debbie’s method for now and go from there. I’m about to rinse it out in about 10 minutes I’ll come back with an update. 
They had to cut 6 inches at Huetiful 2 weeks ago so I’m back at shoulder length. My poor hair is traumatized. It’s so wispy and thin- just like my mom’s now but my dad has had super thick hair most of his life (he’s 74 now not so much) so I don’t know if it’s a combo of the the Vit. D deficiency, genes, age or the fact that I just wore a wig like 24/7 for the past 3 years just surviving these damn jobs and grad school. SMH I was fine the first time I went to them. My hair was thinner but I did a BC and wore a wig for 7 years and grew it back to BSL natural. It didn’t survive this time
Even my teeth have gotten soft according to my dentist. What the hell man! 
They had to cut 6 inches at Huetiful 2 weeks ago so I’m back at shoulder length. My poor hair is traumatized. It’s so wispy and thin- just like my mom’s now but my dad has had super thick hair most of his life (he’s 74 now not so much) so I don’t know if it’s a combo of the the Vit. D deficiency, genes, age or the fact that I just wore a wig like 24/7 for the past 3 years just surviving these damn jobs and grad school. SMH I was fine the first time I went to them. My hair was thinner but I did a BC and wore a wig for 7 years and grew it back to BSL natural. It didn’t survive this time
Even my teeth have gotten soft according to my dentist. What the hell man!
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Everything Zen
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I really feel like the way my hair feels! It’s very moisturized and shiny! I kept it on for a little over an hour.
It’s very moisturized and shiny! I kept it on for a little over an hour. I really feel like the way my hair feels!
Yeah I kept mine on for an hour last time because I got caught up with family before I could go rinse it out and I had no problem. I usually don't go over 30 minutes.
I'm glad you like the results! Hopefully along with correcting the vitamin deficiency it will help you get back on track faster
snoop
Well-Known Member
I found a few articles where people describe the method, but this one is from a Chinese source and most closely matches the recipe in the recent discussion:
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Source: ejinsight on the Pulse
For one thing, they use rice water – the water after rinsing rice – together with natural ingredients such as tea seeds and ginger. The fermented solution is the Yao women’s shampoo.
This fermented rice water is rich in vitamin B, which promotes melanin production for the hair.
Tea seeds, which contain a high level of crude protein and a variety of amino acids, work as excellent non-ionic surface active agents that effectively lift and remove dirt from the hair.
This natural shampoo is believed to keep the Yao women’s hair shiny black and silky soft. It also has anti-dandruff, anti-itch, anti-hair-loss properties and helps in oil control on the scalp.
Interested readers want to make this natural shampoo at home.
Add rice water, orange peel (which could lighten the fermented smell of the shampoo), tea seeds and slices of ginger into a ceramic or earthenware container.
Close the lid tightly and see to it that the jar is at room temperature to allow for fermentation.
After around 10 days, the jar will give out a faint sour scent, indicating that the shampoo is ready for use.
Pour out some of the solution, but not too much, into a container and use it on your hair like a shampoo.
Gently massage the scalp and the hair to absorb the ingredients. Then rinse the hair with water after 10 minutes.
Add the same volume of rice water into the jar for another round of fermentation. The shampoo will be available for use as soon as it turns sour again.
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Source: HKEJ Lifestyle Journal
But because they had the link the the Chinese version and the version wasn't complete, I did a google search and found the orginal Chinese text. Thanks to google translate, we have a bit more info.
The method is as follows: the first "washing rice water", orange peel (rich in vitamin C and volatile oil, which can reduce the sour taste after fermentation of "washed rice water"), tea seeds, yao ginger into the altar, sand pot or In pottery utensils, avoid using metal utensils. Close the bottle mouth and move it to the side of the fire to keep the temperature at around 20 degrees Celsius. About 10 days or so, the mouth of the jar overflows with a light sour taste, which can be used for shampooing. The washing method is: pouring a small half of the pot of "washing rice water" from the altar, without mixing other water. Then soak the hair in the "washing water" and gently rub it to make the nutrients fully absorbed without using shampoo. After about 10 minutes, rinse your hair with clean water.
Hair combing is also important for hair care. After shampooing, gently rub the hair to 80% dry, comb with a thin ruler, start from the two corners and hair angles, comb the back occipital bones, loosen the hair, and gently comb the hair from the top for a few times. Or naturally dry. It is advisable to wash twice a week. Note: After each take of the "washing rice water" in the altar, the same amount of "washed rice water" should be added, and the original temperature should be maintained. After a few days of fermentation, it can be used as shampoo. You can't take too much each time, otherwise the newly added "washed rice water" is difficult to ferment and become sour, which will affect the next use.
This is the symbol for tea seed -- 茶籽
This is the symbol for tea seed shampoo -- 茶籽 洗頭
This lady has a couple of videos about using tea seed powder to wash hair. She shows the brand that she uses (maybe it can be found in North America?) It's in the green bag.
~~~
Source: ejinsight on the Pulse
For one thing, they use rice water – the water after rinsing rice – together with natural ingredients such as tea seeds and ginger. The fermented solution is the Yao women’s shampoo.
This fermented rice water is rich in vitamin B, which promotes melanin production for the hair.
Tea seeds, which contain a high level of crude protein and a variety of amino acids, work as excellent non-ionic surface active agents that effectively lift and remove dirt from the hair.
This natural shampoo is believed to keep the Yao women’s hair shiny black and silky soft. It also has anti-dandruff, anti-itch, anti-hair-loss properties and helps in oil control on the scalp.
Interested readers want to make this natural shampoo at home.
Add rice water, orange peel (which could lighten the fermented smell of the shampoo), tea seeds and slices of ginger into a ceramic or earthenware container.
Close the lid tightly and see to it that the jar is at room temperature to allow for fermentation.
After around 10 days, the jar will give out a faint sour scent, indicating that the shampoo is ready for use.
Pour out some of the solution, but not too much, into a container and use it on your hair like a shampoo.
Gently massage the scalp and the hair to absorb the ingredients. Then rinse the hair with water after 10 minutes.
Add the same volume of rice water into the jar for another round of fermentation. The shampoo will be available for use as soon as it turns sour again.
----
Source: HKEJ Lifestyle Journal
But because they had the link the the Chinese version and the version wasn't complete, I did a google search and found the orginal Chinese text. Thanks to google translate, we have a bit more info.
The method is as follows: the first "washing rice water", orange peel (rich in vitamin C and volatile oil, which can reduce the sour taste after fermentation of "washed rice water"), tea seeds, yao ginger into the altar, sand pot or In pottery utensils, avoid using metal utensils. Close the bottle mouth and move it to the side of the fire to keep the temperature at around 20 degrees Celsius. About 10 days or so, the mouth of the jar overflows with a light sour taste, which can be used for shampooing. The washing method is: pouring a small half of the pot of "washing rice water" from the altar, without mixing other water. Then soak the hair in the "washing water" and gently rub it to make the nutrients fully absorbed without using shampoo. After about 10 minutes, rinse your hair with clean water.
Hair combing is also important for hair care. After shampooing, gently rub the hair to 80% dry, comb with a thin ruler, start from the two corners and hair angles, comb the back occipital bones, loosen the hair, and gently comb the hair from the top for a few times. Or naturally dry. It is advisable to wash twice a week. Note: After each take of the "washing rice water" in the altar, the same amount of "washed rice water" should be added, and the original temperature should be maintained. After a few days of fermentation, it can be used as shampoo. You can't take too much each time, otherwise the newly added "washed rice water" is difficult to ferment and become sour, which will affect the next use.
This is the symbol for tea seed -- 茶籽
This is the symbol for tea seed shampoo -- 茶籽 洗頭
This lady has a couple of videos about using tea seed powder to wash hair. She shows the brand that she uses (maybe it can be found in North America?) It's in the green bag.
Wow thanks Snoop! I was really trying to figure out what that tea seed was doing for them. I now see it's what actually cleans their hair. I looked up tea seed powder and apparently it is a really good cleanser. People even use it to wash their dishes. I'm guessing you make a more diluted mix for hair and body. I would love to be able to try adding the powder to my rice water and possibly skipping using shampoo but that stuff seems impossible to find in the US. I may try some of my local Asian stores.
Everything Zen
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Ioonno about 10 days. If 24 hours is working for people I’m good fam. Maybe I could woman up to 48 hrs...
I even got FH convinced to start to use rice water when he showers to see if it helps his thinning hair. He’s going to use a conditioning cap while he showers.
I’ll let y’all know how that works out.
If it’s a success we’ll have to let Meghan know so Harry can save his hair. It’s too late for William.
Or is it?
I even got FH convinced to start to use rice water when he showers to see if it helps his thinning hair. He’s going to use a conditioning cap while he showers.
I’ll let y’all know how that works out. If it’s a success we’ll have to let Meghan know so Harry can save his hair. It’s too late for William.
Or is it?
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chocolat79
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Thanks so much for this information!
I've been lurking in this thread for a few days and I've been using rice water for a couple weeks, but I'm in crochet braids so it's hard to tell with growth, but the hair I can feel feels very soft and moisturized!
Also, tea seed is known as camellia seed. Someone on another thread mentioned that and you can get it here: https://www.yesstyle.com/en/info.ht...QB38lu9d-pfI4YtTZgVRdMEbL8YJSSY0aAjcoEALw_wcB
@chocolat79 Thank you! I've seen this site before when I was looking for camellia oil. I didn't know if it was legit or not. I checked it out and it appears they are. They take PayPal so that's a plus. That price for the powder is hefty though. Another problem is it's only good for 3 months after opening so not sure I'm willing to pay that for 12 uses. Dang I wish it were cheaper.
snoop
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Ioonno about 10 days. If 24 hours is working for people I’m good fam. Maybe I could women up to 48 hrs...
I even got FH convinced to start to use rice water when he showers to see if it helps his thinning hair. He’s going to use a conditioning cap while he showers.
If it’s a success we’ll have to let Meghan know so Harry can save his hair. It’s too late for William.
Or is it?
Your husband is a champ! If the results work, let me know. Asking for a friend of a friend.
I haven't even tried this process yet, and 10 days sounds excessive.
Ioonno about 10 days. If 24 hours is working for people I’m good fam. Maybe I could women up to 48 hrs...
I even got FH convinced to start to use rice water when he showers to see if it helps his thinning hair. He’s going to use a conditioning cap while he showers.
If it’s a success we’ll have to let Meghan know so Harry can save his hair. It’s too late for William.
Or is it?
Ok so I used rice that fermented for 48 hours for the first timet last week because I washed a day later unexpectedly and it wasn't bad. So I decided to try 48 hours again and it's even warmer here this week than last and I will tell you I will NOT go past 48. It's on the borderline but I've smelled worse. I can tell if it goes another day it won't be bearable. I didn't add any essential oils.
I can't wait to hear your FH results. My DH is thin up top so if I tell him it worked for another guy maybe he'll try it instead of thinking it's another one of my crazy concoctions. Lol!
Everything Zen
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Amazon doesn’t sell it? Let me see if they sell it at J-mart here in Niles. It’s literally 15 minutes from my house next to King Spa. It’s a giant sized Asian supermarket. If they don’t sell it at J-market or Jong Boo (the Korean Market off of Kimball) you don’t need it for Asian cooking. I’ve learned how to make all the good Chinese dishes. Wonton Soup? Mine is better than all the Chinese restaurants. Korean BBQ? Check! Shrimp with lobster sauce? Eh... It was kinda wrong and unnatural but that was my fault not bc I didn’t have all the right ingredients. 
If they have it I can let you ladies know how much it costs and just ship it to you for the cost + price of shipping if that works. I’m sure it’s got to be cheap- everything there is ridiculously affordable.
If they have it I can let you ladies know how much it costs and just ship it to you for the cost + price of shipping if that works. I’m sure it’s got to be cheap- everything there is ridiculously affordable.
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Amazon doesn’t sell it? Let me see if they sell it at J-mart here in Niles. It’s literally 15 minutes from my house next to King Spa. It’s a giant sized Asian supermarket. If they don’t sell it at J-market or Jong Boo (the Korean Market off of Kimball) you don’t need it for Asian cooking. I’ve learned how to make all the good Chinese dishes. Wonton Soup? Mine is better than all the Chinese restaurants. Korean Anna? Check! Shrimp with lobster sauce? Eh... It was kinda wrong and unnatural but that was my fault not bc I didn’t have all the right ingredients.
If they have it I can let you ladies know how much it costs and just ship it to you for the cost + price of shipping if that works. I’m sure it’s got to be cheap- everything there is ridiculously affordable.
That would be so awesome of you to do that! I hate going into the Asian markets near me because they barely speak English and look at me like I'm crazy when I come in asking for stuff. I'll go check them out tomorrow though and will do the same as you and make it available to everyone.
I was surprised to see it wasn't available in small quantities on Amazon. The only thing on there is a kilo for $95.
Yeah it did make me think of aritha and shikakai. Actually I just may mix one of those in the rice water if I can't get the tea seed powder. I really do want to turn this into my sole cleanser for my hair.
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@Everything Zen Welp, no luck on my end neither Asian store by me carries the powder. I don't know how popular it is amongst Chinese people. It may be something they don't bother to import due to lack of interest (at least in my area). Hopefully you have better luck.
PureSilver
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I use the rice water daily (most time 2x daily) as a moisturizing leave in treatment. I do add oils such as; peppermint, tea tree and rosemary oils.
I made a mix earlier this week and added a tea spoon of onion juice to my rice water. I also added more water about 1/4 cup as it was too potent after adding the onion juice.
SmilingElephant
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Imma be honest...I was doing the rice water thing, but fell off the bandwagon due to scheduling interfernces aka I didn't have time to keep up with it.
I used it for about a month or 2 as a treatment with my deep conditioner and also in my spray bottle mixed with aloe vera juice as a refresher.
I can say that it definitely helps with strengthening my strands and roots and helped BIG TIME to stop my excessive shedding! However, due to me also taking HSN vitamins faithfully every night, I can't say that rice water was THEE TING that made my hair grow...I attribute my recovery to a mix of things...but I will say it helped in a big way. Thanks to this rice water craze, I have discovered that my hair is actually fine, not coarse like I thought.
I used it for about a month or 2 as a treatment with my deep conditioner and also in my spray bottle mixed with aloe vera juice as a refresher.
I can say that it definitely helps with strengthening my strands and roots and helped BIG TIME to stop my excessive shedding!
However, due to me also taking HSN vitamins faithfully every night, I can't say that rice water was THEE TING that made my hair grow...I attribute my recovery to a mix of things...but I will say it helped in a big way. Thanks to this rice water craze, I have discovered that my hair is actually fine, not coarse like I thought.Similar threads
