vevster
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Thank you so much for those kind words. I also am alone in isolation(semi?) whatever NY is doing. Thank YOU for your information -- it is helping us all.
The Covid-19 Thread: News, Preparation Tips, Etc
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Thank you so much for those kind words. I also am alone in isolation(semi?) whatever NY is doing. Thank YOU for your information -- it is helping us all.
lavaflow99
In search of the next vacation
Absolutely!!
And the same for doctors. I'm a pediatrician. Ain't no way I can or will take care of an adult. That adult is asking to die.
So yeah we stay in our lanes.Plus medico-legally you can only take care of patients you are trained to manage. I don't know if the Good Samaritan Law can be used in such instance (providing care in a pandemic) but I doubt it.
Crackers Phinn
Either A Blessing Or A Lesson.
It's a reminder to keep on your toes when it comes to washing fruits and vegetables.smh. These kids......
Chromia
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Wegmans purchasing limits have been changing throughout the week.
Right now Wegmans has a 1-item purchase limit on canned & frozen vegetables, canned beans, rice, soups, feminine hygiene products, and other items listed at https://www.wegmans.com/covid-19-response/#limited-purchase-items.
Right now Wegmans has a 1-item purchase limit on canned & frozen vegetables, canned beans, rice, soups, feminine hygiene products, and other items listed at https://www.wegmans.com/covid-19-response/#limited-purchase-items.
TrulyBlessed
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Kalia1
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Member of Gov. Cuomo Staff Tests Positive
https://www.nydailynews.com/coronav...0200321-npcrrodd6ndztevkblgfe4oj4e-story.html
https://www.nydailynews.com/coronav...0200321-npcrrodd6ndztevkblgfe4oj4e-story.html
awhyley
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I took a break from the thread today, but now want to vent. The country enforced a 9pm lockdown for the next 11 days. Tell me why they're making my sister work late? She is non-essential staff at a travel company. All they're doing is taking cancellations! They should be glad to enforce the early lockdown, but no! Also, there are fines in place for persons caught out after 9pm. Her shift is 4pm - 1am. This is madness.
(eta: She got in an hour ago, after 1am, but at least she got here. No hassles, no fines.)
(eta; eta: Her bosses called the gov't to get a waiver. She did get stopped, but it was ok.)
(eta: She got in an hour ago, after 1am, but at least she got here. No hassles, no fines.)
(eta; eta: Her bosses called the gov't to get a waiver. She did get stopped, but it was ok.)
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TrulyBlessed
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The virus is taking out members of this New Jersey family back to back and the family is apparently of Italian descent. Italy is being wiped out right now like crazy which makes me think people of Italian decent may be at greater risk genetically of contracting and succumbing to the virus. It’s awful.
She lost her mother, two brothers and a sister to coronavirus within a week
(CNN) — Elizabeth Fusco was still grieving her oldest sister's death when she got another call this week. Her oldest brother had died, too.
While she was on the phone with the hospital Wednesday, she heard her mother coding in the background and the doctors' frantic activity to save her, she told CNN. Her mother did not make it.
A day later, on Thursday, another brother died, leaving the shocked New Jersey family mourning the loss of a mother and two brothers within a week and a sister who died six days prior -- all victims of the coronavirus that has killed 195 people in the US.
Her mother and the family matriarch, Grace Fusco, 73, of Freehold, New Jersey, died Wednesday this week after being diagnosed with the coronavirus.
Her brother, Carmine Fusco, had died just before their mother on the same day, according to The New York Times. A day later, on Thursday, another brother, Vincent Fusco Jr., died, a family member said.
Her oldest sister, Rita Fusco-Jackson, had died on March 13, The Times reported. All the children were in their 50s and it's unclear whether they had underlying health issues.
"It's absolutely surreal," Elizabeth Fusco told CNN's Chris Cuomo on Thursday night. "They were the roots of our lives ... It's like the second we start to grieve about one, the phone rings and there's another person gone, taken from us forever."
She'll never forget hearing her mother's last moments, she said.
"I listened to those doctors and those machines code my mother on the phone when she passed. I'll never get over that."
Three other relatives are hospitalized
In addition to the deaths, three other relatives are hospitalized in New Jersey and 19 other family members have been tested for the virus and are anxiously awaiting results, said Roseann Paradiso Fodera, the mother's cousin. They include children, parents and grandchildren, and are quarantined together.
"This is an unbearable tragedy for the family," Paradiso Fodera said. "The family's biggest concern is that we have four members of one family who have passed, two on life support and one stable," Paradiso Fodera said.
The infections appeared to have originated from a family dinner this month, according to The Times, which first reported the story. It said the first person to die from coronavirus in New Jersey had attended that gathering.
US death toll goes up
As the US death toll grows, states are ordering more shutdowns. By Thursday night, New Jersey had nine deaths from the virus and at least 742 people infected.
The number of reported coronavirus cases in the United States has jumped daily, pushing health care officials and political leaders to take steps to keep the pandemic from overwhelming the system.
In California, the nation's most populous state is ordering its nearly 40 million residents to stay home to prevent the spread of the coronavirus.
California Gov. Gavin Newsom's order marks the first statewide mandatory restrictions in the United States to help combat the outbreak. It went into effect Thursday at midnight and includes exemptions for essential services such as public safety and medical care.
Experts are urging everyone -- even those who don't feel sick -- to stay at least 6 feet away from others and avoid social gatherings.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/20/health/new-jersey-coronavirus-victims/index.html
She lost her mother, two brothers and a sister to coronavirus within a week
(CNN) — Elizabeth Fusco was still grieving her oldest sister's death when she got another call this week. Her oldest brother had died, too.
While she was on the phone with the hospital Wednesday, she heard her mother coding in the background and the doctors' frantic activity to save her, she told CNN. Her mother did not make it.
A day later, on Thursday, another brother died, leaving the shocked New Jersey family mourning the loss of a mother and two brothers within a week and a sister who died six days prior -- all victims of the coronavirus that has killed 195 people in the US.
Her mother and the family matriarch, Grace Fusco, 73, of Freehold, New Jersey, died Wednesday this week after being diagnosed with the coronavirus.
Her brother, Carmine Fusco, had died just before their mother on the same day, according to The New York Times. A day later, on Thursday, another brother, Vincent Fusco Jr., died, a family member said.
Her oldest sister, Rita Fusco-Jackson, had died on March 13, The Times reported. All the children were in their 50s and it's unclear whether they had underlying health issues.
"It's absolutely surreal," Elizabeth Fusco told CNN's Chris Cuomo on Thursday night. "They were the roots of our lives ... It's like the second we start to grieve about one, the phone rings and there's another person gone, taken from us forever."
She'll never forget hearing her mother's last moments, she said.
"I listened to those doctors and those machines code my mother on the phone when she passed. I'll never get over that."
Three other relatives are hospitalized
In addition to the deaths, three other relatives are hospitalized in New Jersey and 19 other family members have been tested for the virus and are anxiously awaiting results, said Roseann Paradiso Fodera, the mother's cousin. They include children, parents and grandchildren, and are quarantined together.
"This is an unbearable tragedy for the family," Paradiso Fodera said. "The family's biggest concern is that we have four members of one family who have passed, two on life support and one stable," Paradiso Fodera said.
The infections appeared to have originated from a family dinner this month, according to The Times, which first reported the story. It said the first person to die from coronavirus in New Jersey had attended that gathering.
US death toll goes up
As the US death toll grows, states are ordering more shutdowns. By Thursday night, New Jersey had nine deaths from the virus and at least 742 people infected.
The number of reported coronavirus cases in the United States has jumped daily, pushing health care officials and political leaders to take steps to keep the pandemic from overwhelming the system.
In California, the nation's most populous state is ordering its nearly 40 million residents to stay home to prevent the spread of the coronavirus.
California Gov. Gavin Newsom's order marks the first statewide mandatory restrictions in the United States to help combat the outbreak. It went into effect Thursday at midnight and includes exemptions for essential services such as public safety and medical care.
Experts are urging everyone -- even those who don't feel sick -- to stay at least 6 feet away from others and avoid social gatherings.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/20/health/new-jersey-coronavirus-victims/index.html
Black Ambrosia
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I'm impressed that he has a sewing team equipped to work at home. I expected this from 3M or Proctor and Gamble. The clothing industry never crossed my mind but he stepped up and offered his resources. He's keeping his people working when there'll absolutely be less demand for his fashions because of the economy and job losses. He's won my good will. I'll buy something of his when we're on the other side of this.
rayne
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I had to take a break from this thread so I just skimmed the last few pages. I think there may be something to the nationwide lockdown. My cousin said that his job sent out a letter stating that their work is essential and that they are not to be prevented from movement due to presidential order.
ETA: I told DH about the pics but he's not convinced. He said there were pics floating around of the national guards in downtown Chicago but they ended up being fake. So I guess we'll just have to wait and see
ETA: I told DH about the pics but he's not convinced. He said there were pics floating around of the national guards in downtown Chicago but they ended up being fake. So I guess we'll just have to wait and see
fifi134
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If you search this on Twitter, apparently it’s a hoax.
MamaBear2012
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A nurse friend of mine said her coworker is sewing masks. I'm going to start making them. I have quite a bit of fabric and elastic. I saw a study that said that cotton/cotton blends are decent. And I guess it's better than nothing. I'll get to it!
TrulyBlessed
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nycutiepie
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What type of work/industry does your cousin work in?I had to take a break from this thread so I just skimmed the last few pages. I think there may be something to the nationwide lockdown. My cousin said that his job sent out a letter stating that their work is essential and that they are not to be prevented from movement due to presidential order.
ETA: I told DH about the pics but he's not convinced. He said there were pics floating around of the national guards in downtown Chicago but they ended up being fake. So I guess we'll just have to wait and see
Jmartjrmd
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This is awful. I cant wrap my mind around the pain that family is in. God bless them.
Theresamonet
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My husband’s boss has has a brother in the national guard, and he told my husband the same thing yesterday. He didn’t say that it will be Sunday though.
Chicoro
5 Year Shea Anniversary: Started Dec 16th, 2016!
"FedEX Field in Maryland Getting Occupied by the National Guard"
"Kay Bailey Hutchinson Center in Dallas Texas Set Up Beds in Style Reminiscent of 1918 Spanish Flu Pandemic" located in Dallas, Texas
Does anyone have any information on these one?"Kay Bailey Hutchinson Center in Dallas Texas Set Up Beds in Style Reminiscent of 1918 Spanish Flu Pandemic" located in Dallas, Texas
https://www.newswars.com/breaking-national-guard-deploys-to-fedexfield-in-maryland/
These trucks look EXACTLY like the shiny new trucks we saw in the photo from @fluffyforever (post # 1628) of this thread.
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Chicoro
5 Year Shea Anniversary: Started Dec 16th, 2016!
nycutiepie
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Have we seen any statistics for the rate of infection by race? Perhaps Europe and Asia wouldn’t track this but I imagine that the US would. No one race is immune but I’m curious to see the statistics. The lack of information is arousing suspicion and I have a feeling white people are being infected at a higher rate in the US.
How hard have countries in Africa been hit? The article about the family in NJ refers to Italians possibly being more susceptible or something to that effect. They tried to pin HIV on Haiti and this is being pinned on China but what are the stats here in the US? I bet if it were more black people being hit we’d hear about it.
How hard have countries in Africa been hit? The article about the family in NJ refers to Italians possibly being more susceptible or something to that effect. They tried to pin HIV on Haiti and this is being pinned on China but what are the stats here in the US? I bet if it were more black people being hit we’d hear about it.
This whole situation is sad, it seems only the rich are getting tested and people have to pay. I am sharing this story not to brag, but to highlight a different experience and what we should all be getting
In Australia testing is free part of our Medicare, the main criteria to get tested is that you have to have been overseas in the last 14 days/been in close contact with someone with Covid-19 and are displaying flu/cold like symptoms. The government is also waiving the cost for testing for those who are not covered by Medicare.
I got back home on Wednesday, I had developed a cold as I usually do from long haul flights. On Thursday morning I called my doctor who managed to write a referral for me to get tested at a pathologist, within an hour of speaking to her. I couldn't get to the pathologist before they closed but I went to a public hospital which is 5 min from where we live. The testing centre is open from 8am to 10pm daily. I managed to get the test done within 30minutes. Still waiting for my results because where I live, it takes just over 72hrs to get results. One of my friends lives in another state and got her results within 24hrs.
It is the most painful test I have ever had to do. They stick a plus 4 inch swab down your throat and both nostrils. The nurse even gave me some tissue before I started because she said I would cry because of it.
I pray that this whole virus comes to a complete stop, soon.
In Australia testing is free part of our Medicare, the main criteria to get tested is that you have to have been overseas in the last 14 days/been in close contact with someone with Covid-19 and are displaying flu/cold like symptoms. The government is also waiving the cost for testing for those who are not covered by Medicare.
I got back home on Wednesday, I had developed a cold as I usually do from long haul flights. On Thursday morning I called my doctor who managed to write a referral for me to get tested at a pathologist, within an hour of speaking to her. I couldn't get to the pathologist before they closed but I went to a public hospital which is 5 min from where we live. The testing centre is open from 8am to 10pm daily. I managed to get the test done within 30minutes. Still waiting for my results because where I live, it takes just over 72hrs to get results. One of my friends lives in another state and got her results within 24hrs.
It is the most painful test I have ever had to do. They stick a plus 4 inch swab down your throat and both nostrils. The nurse even gave me some tissue before I started because she said I would cry because of it.
I pray that this whole virus comes to a complete stop, soon.
Did they? I thought it was Africa and monkeys.
CORONAVIRUS9 HOURS AGO"FedEX Field in Maryland Getting Occupied by the National Guard"Does anyone have any information on these one?
"Kay Bailey Hutchinson Center in Dallas Texas Set Up Beds in Style Reminiscent of 1918 Spanish Flu Pandemic" located in Dallas, Texas
https://www.newswars.com/breaking-national-guard-deploys-to-fedexfield-in-maryland/
These trucks look EXACTLY like the shiny new trucks we saw in the photo from @fluffyforever (post # 1628) of this thread.
National Guard Helps Set Up Coronavirus Screening Facility at FedEx Field
The National Guard helped set up a coronavirus screening site outside FedEx Field Friday. News4’s Jackie Bensen explains how it could operate.
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/...us-screening-facility-at-fedex-field/2248960/
Guapa1
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Thank you for thinking of me ladies.
I can't get tested here. They are only just starting to test medical staff. I live alone so even if I am positive I'm not exposing anyone else to it. I can also still cook and shower so I'm not a priority. I don't have a Samsung, but I will keep track of my heart rate.
Guapa1
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https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/20/coro...-12432002/?ito=article.desktop.share.top.link
I can't post this article for some reason but I think it's a better overview
This one is from the BBC
Coronavirus testing: What is the UK government's plan?
By Reality Check teamBBC News
Image copyrightGETTY IMAGES
Prime Minister Boris Johnson has announced plans to test more people for coronavirus.
At the moment only people in hospital are being routinely tested, so if you have symptoms and you are not sure if you have the virus, you may well not be able to find out.
As of 19 March, 64,621 people in the UK had been tested for coronavirus. The number of tests has been rising from just over 1,000 a day at the end of February, when testing began, to more than 6,000 per day by mid-March.
The government plans to increase this to 10,000 a day initially, with a goal of reaching 25,000 tests a day within four weeks.
But it has been criticised by some experts for not testing widely enough, and people have been complaining online about not having access to tests despite having symptoms.
Reasons for testing
There are two main reasons for testing people - to diagnose them individually, and to try to understand how far the virus has spread in the wider population. This second reason is referred to as "surveillance testing".
This can involve mass testing people even if they do not have symptoms, or testing samples of people with symptoms, to get an idea of the total number of people with the virus. Positive results can also be used to try to trace the contacts of people who are known to be infected.
The failure to test more widely means that many people might be self-isolating for no good reason.
Public Health England says it will do some surveillance testing on a local level if clusters of cases are identified, using a network of 100 designated GP surgeries. This is to try to get a sense of how many milder cases there are in the community that do not result in hospitalisation.
But the UK is not currently doing any mass surveillance testing or actively tracing people who have come into contact with known cases.
What do I need to know about the coronavirus?
Should the UK be testing more people?
The director general of the World Health Organization (WHO), Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said he had a "simple message" for all countries: "Test, test, test."
He added: "We cannot stop this pandemic if we do not know who is infected."
So why is the UK not testing more people?
Ultimately, this mainly comes down to resources. Every country is limited by how much money, equipment and staff it has - it is not going to be possible to test every single person, so healthcare systems have to prioritise.
The UK's chief scientific officer Sir Patrick Vallance told a group of MPs that "we simply don't have mass testing available for the population now", and that "when you only have capacity to do a certain number of tests" you have to prioritise the most vulnerable groups.
But it's also partly to do with how widespread the virus is.
"Testing and contact tracing is critical - particularly in the early stages," according to Prof Mark Woolhouse, an infectious diseases expert at the University of Edinburgh.
However, he says once you are beyond the "containment phase", this may become less useful.
If the illness becomes so widespread that the cases known to health services are just the tip of the iceberg, and there are many more milder cases among people who don't present, then "contact-tracing of the small fraction of cases that are visible won't do very much," he said.
Image copyrightPA MEDIA
But Prof Jonathan Ball, a molecular virologist at the University of Nottingham, believes the current testing regime "doesn't go nearly far enough".
"To have any impact on the spread of this virus there has to be more widespread testing out in the community," he says.
"We need to get a handle on where the virus is circulating most and better inform people of the cause of their respiratory symptoms, so that self-isolation is better informed and more likely to be enacted."
He points to South Korea, where "active community surveillance" has been far more extensive and has had "a major impact on flattening the curve and relieving pressure on stretched health services".
Healthcare workers
Healthcare workers haven't been able to be widely tested, raising concerns that they could spread the infection unknowingly. And some may end up self-isolating unnecessarily even though they don't have the virus, risking leaving the health service even more short staffed.
The Department of Health and Social Care says healthcare workers are a high priority and it wants to increase testing to "make sure they can be tested too" - but it has not set out any details as to how it plans to do that.
A new test
At the moment, those who can be tested are being checked for signs they currently have the virus.
But scientists are working towards a test to see whether someone has had the disease in the past, by checking for the presence of antibodies (produced by the body to fight off infection).
This can help work out how widespread the disease has been and whether people are safe to go back to work.
Boris Johnson said that he was in negotiations to buy "literally hundreds of thousands" of antibody tests which would be "as simple as a pregnancy test", once they were available and shown to work.
What are other countries doing?
The UK has done more testing than many other countries, although not more than the most rigorous testers like South Korea.
The UK passed its 2,500th case as of 18 March and has tested 828 people per million of its population. At this point in their outbreaks, Italy had conducted 386 tests per million citizens, while South Korea had done more than 2,000 tests per million.
I can't post this article for some reason but I think it's a better overview
This one is from the BBC
Coronavirus testing: What is the UK government's plan?
By Reality Check teamBBC News
- 19 March 2020
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Prime Minister Boris Johnson has announced plans to test more people for coronavirus.
At the moment only people in hospital are being routinely tested, so if you have symptoms and you are not sure if you have the virus, you may well not be able to find out.
As of 19 March, 64,621 people in the UK had been tested for coronavirus. The number of tests has been rising from just over 1,000 a day at the end of February, when testing began, to more than 6,000 per day by mid-March.
The government plans to increase this to 10,000 a day initially, with a goal of reaching 25,000 tests a day within four weeks.
But it has been criticised by some experts for not testing widely enough, and people have been complaining online about not having access to tests despite having symptoms.
Reasons for testing
There are two main reasons for testing people - to diagnose them individually, and to try to understand how far the virus has spread in the wider population. This second reason is referred to as "surveillance testing".
This can involve mass testing people even if they do not have symptoms, or testing samples of people with symptoms, to get an idea of the total number of people with the virus. Positive results can also be used to try to trace the contacts of people who are known to be infected.
The failure to test more widely means that many people might be self-isolating for no good reason.
Public Health England says it will do some surveillance testing on a local level if clusters of cases are identified, using a network of 100 designated GP surgeries. This is to try to get a sense of how many milder cases there are in the community that do not result in hospitalisation.
But the UK is not currently doing any mass surveillance testing or actively tracing people who have come into contact with known cases.
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Should the UK be testing more people?
The director general of the World Health Organization (WHO), Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said he had a "simple message" for all countries: "Test, test, test."
He added: "We cannot stop this pandemic if we do not know who is infected."
So why is the UK not testing more people?
Ultimately, this mainly comes down to resources. Every country is limited by how much money, equipment and staff it has - it is not going to be possible to test every single person, so healthcare systems have to prioritise.
The UK's chief scientific officer Sir Patrick Vallance told a group of MPs that "we simply don't have mass testing available for the population now", and that "when you only have capacity to do a certain number of tests" you have to prioritise the most vulnerable groups.
But it's also partly to do with how widespread the virus is.
"Testing and contact tracing is critical - particularly in the early stages," according to Prof Mark Woolhouse, an infectious diseases expert at the University of Edinburgh.
However, he says once you are beyond the "containment phase", this may become less useful.
If the illness becomes so widespread that the cases known to health services are just the tip of the iceberg, and there are many more milder cases among people who don't present, then "contact-tracing of the small fraction of cases that are visible won't do very much," he said.
But Prof Jonathan Ball, a molecular virologist at the University of Nottingham, believes the current testing regime "doesn't go nearly far enough".
"To have any impact on the spread of this virus there has to be more widespread testing out in the community," he says.
"We need to get a handle on where the virus is circulating most and better inform people of the cause of their respiratory symptoms, so that self-isolation is better informed and more likely to be enacted."
He points to South Korea, where "active community surveillance" has been far more extensive and has had "a major impact on flattening the curve and relieving pressure on stretched health services".
Healthcare workers
Healthcare workers haven't been able to be widely tested, raising concerns that they could spread the infection unknowingly. And some may end up self-isolating unnecessarily even though they don't have the virus, risking leaving the health service even more short staffed.
The Department of Health and Social Care says healthcare workers are a high priority and it wants to increase testing to "make sure they can be tested too" - but it has not set out any details as to how it plans to do that.
A new test
At the moment, those who can be tested are being checked for signs they currently have the virus.
But scientists are working towards a test to see whether someone has had the disease in the past, by checking for the presence of antibodies (produced by the body to fight off infection).
This can help work out how widespread the disease has been and whether people are safe to go back to work.
Boris Johnson said that he was in negotiations to buy "literally hundreds of thousands" of antibody tests which would be "as simple as a pregnancy test", once they were available and shown to work.
What are other countries doing?
The UK has done more testing than many other countries, although not more than the most rigorous testers like South Korea.
The UK passed its 2,500th case as of 18 March and has tested 828 people per million of its population. At this point in their outbreaks, Italy had conducted 386 tests per million citizens, while South Korea had done more than 2,000 tests per million.
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Chicoro
5 Year Shea Anniversary: Started Dec 16th, 2016!
Thank you for the information @SoniT ! This is helpful for us to better understand aspects of the situation from a calm, focused perspective.
This is why, it is important to have a central point of communication for the collective here on LHCF.
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Just wanted to send hugs and prayers to those now forced to work at home with school-aged kids.
Between trying to do our work and now trying to home school the kids, this week almost took me and DH out!!!!
God bless teachers...we appreciate you even more after this experience!
Between trying to do our work and now trying to home school the kids, this week almost took me and DH out!!!!
God bless teachers...we appreciate you even more after this experience!
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