The Covid-19 Thread: News, Preparation Tips, Etc

gn1g

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"Viral shedding refers to the expulsion and release of virus progeny following successful reproduction during a host-cell infection."

Easy definition: virus duplicated in the host cell


I think this explains why people with CV test positive/negative/positive and have the roller coaster experience.

My poor friend is going thru it! One day she is on top of the world and the next day she has fever and chills, aches pains the whole 9. But even worse is she has been cleared to return to work Monday!
 

vevster

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I think this explains why people with CV test positive/negative/positive and have the roller coaster experience.

My poor friend is going thru it! One day she is on top of the world and the next day she has fever and chills, aches pains the whole 9. But even worse is she has been cleared to return to work Monday!
Chris Cuomo appears to have the same cycle going.
 

vevster

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Now this is interesting, I did microbiome testing a while ago and the company emailed me the following:

During this crisis, our scientists at the Viome Research Institute have learned much about SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes the COVID-19 respiratory disease, since the initial outbreak. We now know that the virus can be present and detectable in the gut microbiome, even after it is no longer detectable in the respiratory system, or in cases where people have experienced mild or no symptoms. Studies have shown that people may shed the virus in stool for weeks after the virus is cleared from respiratory samples.[/QUOTE]

So, in theory if you walk into a bathroom after someone has gone #2 --- you are exposed.....
 

Lute

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Anyone else think there’s a problem with testing? There’s talk of extending the 14 day quarantine to 21 days because folk have tested positive after having several negative results.

I think 21 days is perfect. It should've been 21 days from the beginning. There were a good handful people that had false positive. If they did the test oral/nasal cavity it would be negative. But if its was fecal then it would be positive. It sounds like virus has to pass through the body in order for it to be fully clear.
 

Kanky

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I am seriously considering taking the chance to stop by my hairdressers place. It's not in a high-traffic area, so chances of getting caught are minimal. Nails, no but I need to sneak in a relaxer. One relaxer will hold me til June. I can do the rest until then. Someone please talk me down :laugh:

It's a whole pandemic! Do it yourself!
 

lavaflow99

In search of the next vacation
Anyone else think there’s a problem with testing? There’s talk of extending the 14 day quarantine to 21 days because folk have tested positive after having several negative results.

This makes sense to me. There is a teen admitted to one of the hospitals I am at who tested positive. We are trying to clear him with negative tests so he can be sent to a residential psych facility (he was asymptomatic and was ONLY tested because we got wind that his mother was positive/symptomatic :rolleyes:). His mom was positive on 3/24 and the teen was tested positive on 4/3. He was last positive on 4/13. So clearly he has been exposed for more than 2 weeks (he was admitted 4/1 and I won't comment on how he was chilling on the psych unit for 2 days with zero precautions....that's another story for another day).

So my agreement is based on a sample size of one. :lol: 21 days seems like a more reliable length of time.
 

shahala

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I wasn’t tested when I went to the emergency room. They did chest X-rays, an EKG etc, The doctor told me there were not enough tests and they were only being given to really sick people and those who would be admitted I was getting ready to be pissed but 15 mins later a guy about 45 years old came in and from what I over heard from the EMTs , he was found disoriented in his driveway. He was in a really bad way, oxygen levels really low etc and needed oxygen and the doctor told him he would be admitted. he got the test. So I was cool after that because I knew I was going home and my oxygen levels were good.

Thank God I didn’t have to stay but I found out from my mother’s friend whose sister was at the same hospital, that after 2 days of being admitted, they sent her to Jacob Javits Center because they needed the hospital beds for other emergency patients.
 
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gn1g

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I wonder if a stool test is quicker. Sounds like this is a more reliable result.

I think so. In fact, when the virus was just in Wuhan, they had some evidence that people were getting it when others flushed the toilet (commercial toilets) because CV is not a bacteria it is a spiked protein molecule.

whoever the intelligent jerk was that created this monster should've and might still be able to create a cure for something.
 

awhyley

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Rona is like a thief in the night. You don't know she's coming until she done broke in and wrecked your house. For some reason your alarm wasn't on and you let your guard down thinking it would alert you to any danger . The next day when the day breaks and the police investigate you discover it was your hairdresser that brought Rona to your house. She looked so healthy and innocent at the salon though. You didn't think she could possibly bring Rona to you. And you were only there for a few hours. But she still managed to find you and invade your space. But now your house is destroyed and and you don't know if you can rebuild. Is it worth it?

Ok was my dramatic recreation enough or do we need reinforcements?

Dang, that was indeed dramatic. Very good imagery there. Thanks!

@awhyley do you really want to take the risk of losing your loved ones or yourself just because you want to get your hair did. Level of judgement will be huge and if the hairdresser is a vector. You will be shamed like Cersei on the game of thrones.



Don't be like Cersei .

This is true, I would not live it down if my folks were affected.

How silly would you feel sitting up in the hospital on a ventilator, or at home struggling to breathe cause you wanted your hair relaxed?

Why can’t you do it yourself?

Just didn't want to take the risk I guess. :ohwell:

You could start your natural hair journey!

BIG CHOP! :yep: This is seriously a good time to consider this.

Basically @awhyley sit your butt down somewhere (at home), :lachen:

Ok, I will. Thanks ladies :flowers:
 

C@ssandr@

formerly known as "keyawarren"
I am seriously considering taking the chance to stop by my hairdressers place. It's not in a high-traffic area, so chances of getting caught are minimal. Nails, no but I need to sneak in a relaxer. One relaxer will hold me til June. I can do the rest until then. Someone please talk me down :laugh:

I can understand the anxiety around this. I would just cornrow it and throw on a headwrap a la Erykah Badu.
 

OhTall1

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:rolleyes: Now he's basically trying to incite riots.

Trump breaks with his own guidelines to back conservative anti-quarantine protesters
The president’s social media posts come amid growing frustration among some conservative groups over state mitigation measures.


President Donald Trump speaks at a daily coronavirus news briefing Friday. | Alex Brandon/AP Photo

By QUINT FORGEY

04/17/2020 12:18 PM EDT

Updated: 04/17/2020 05:48 PM EDT

President Donald Trump culminated a swerving, week-long power struggle against the nation’s governors with an apparent endorsement of protesters who have defied leaders of coronavirus-stricken states, public health experts and the most senior members of his own administration.

In a series of tweets Friday afternoon, the president issued an online call to “LIBERATE” Minnesota, Michigan and Virginia — all states where aggrieved residents have gathered in public in recent days to demonstrate in opposition to stay-at-home orders declared by Democratic governors.

“LIBERATE MINNESOTA!” Trump wrote, followed soon after by a message that read, “LIBERATE MICHIGAN!” He also tweeted, “LIBERATE VIRGINIA, and save your great 2nd Amendment. It is under siege!”

At Friday's White House press briefing, Trump said certain states are going to "come online" "sooner rather than later."

The president’s remarks and social media posts come as some conservative groups have grown increasingly frustrated with the local directives that have slammed the brakes on the U.S. economy, the strength of which had been a key selling point of Trump’s reelection effort.

Trump’s tweets also represent the latest salvo in a rhetorical back-and-forth between governors seeking more robust assistance from his administration and a president loath to accept blame for a federal response that has been widely criticized as inadequate and slow-footed.

Amid the urgent state efforts, thousands of protesters — many wearing Trump paraphernalia — have congregated in the capital cities of Minnesota, Michigan and Virginia, flouting stringent mitigation measures imposed by Democratic Govs. Tim Walz, Gretchen Whitmer and Ralph Northam.

Northam was dismissive of Trump’s unexpected broadside at a news conference Friday, telling reporters that he and his staff are “fighting a biological war. I do not have time to involve myself in Twitter wars.”

The tweets also came up near the end of a conference call between Senate Democrats and Vice President Mike Pence regarding national testing for the coronavirus.

When Sen. Tim Kaine of Virginia asked why the president was trying to incite division online, Pence said the administration would continue to work with governors while also communicating with the American people.

But the Democrats were not satisfied. Kaine called the president’s posts disrespectful, and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer of New York pressed the vice president to answer Kaine’s question.

Gov. Jay Inslee of Washington had an even stronger reaction, issuing a lengthy statement condemning Trump’s rhetoric. His tweets “encourage illegal and dangerous acts” and put “millions of people in danger” of contracting the coronavirus, the governor said.

“I hope someday we can look at today’s meltdown as something to be pitied, rather than condemned. But we don’t have that luxury today. There is too much at stake,” Inslee, a Democrat, added.

The president’s suggestion that Americans should disobey state orders directly contradicts his own past statements acknowledging governors’ authority to announce restrictions to combat the disease’s spread.

Asked about the demonstrations at his coronavirus news briefing Thursday, Trump declined to condemn them, instead noting that “they seem to be protesters that like me” and that the marchers had “been going through it a long time.”

Those remarks bore echos of the president’s refusal to condemn white supremacist marchers who gathered in Charlottesville, Virginia, in 2017 for a “Unite the Right” rally where a counter-protester was killed.
Trump, in the aftermath of that deadly clash, proclaimed there had been “very fine people on both sides” of the rally, an assessment for which he was widely rebuked.

The president’s seeming encouragement of the protesters Friday also flies in the face of federal social-distancing guidance, which is in effect until the end of the month, as well as his administration’s new recommendations advising states to proceed with caution when reopening.

Discussing those guidelines Thursday, Trump acknowledged “every state is very different,” and said that “if they need to remain closed, we will allow them to do that.”

But the president, eager to restart the collapsing economy, was not so deferential earlier this week, and has vacillated wildly when discussing the nature of federal versus state powers as they apply to local stay-at-home orders.

At Friday's press briefing, Trump said, "I think certain states are going to come online and they're going to start the early stages of the puzzle that we are putting together. And it's going to be together sooner rather than later."

On Sunday, Trump instructed governors to prepare their “testing programs & apparatus” to fight the outbreak, tweeting that states should “Be ready” and the federal government “is there to help.”

Trump insisted Monday, however, that he alone had the power to reopen the country — not governors — despite his reluctance to issue a nationwide stay-at-home order or any federally enforceable mitigation measures.

He also argued that the president’s authority is “total,” and said governors “will agree to” his plans for emerging from state shutdowns.

After governors pushed back Tuesday against Trump’s assertion of complete federal power, he suggested the state leaders were involved in a “mutiny” against him, but later conceded he would “be authorizing” their individual reopening plans.

In Texas, where far-right protesters demanded action Thursday at the state Capitol building in Austin, Gov. Greg Abbott outlined the state’s strategy for reopening the economy.

Abbott, a Republican, has sought to walk a tightrope between appeasing conservatives in the state who say lockdowns have been an overreaction and public health officials warning of the virus’ spread; he refused to call an order “shelter-in-place” even though it was effectively that.

The governor attempted to restrike that balance again with Friday’s order, which included plans to reopen only a narrow slice of the state.

He said stores could try “retail to-go,” state parks would reopen but with heavy restrictions and that health care providers could restart some surgeries and diagnostic testing, though he said abortions were still banned in the state.

Abbott also announced that schools and universities would remain closed through the end of the academic year and the state’s lockdown orders would remain in place for now.
 

Dposh167

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This man is a sociopath. An absolute devil in human form.

He cares nothing about the well being of Americans. Anybody who wants to create an argument/riot/tension in this country in the middle of a health pandemic is a sociopath. He came after Cuomo earlier this afternoon and I'm glad Cuomo gave it right back to him even though he wanted to take the high road. How dare Trump imply Cuomo hasn't done much.....I swear, I hate this man
 

B_Phlyy

Pineapple Eating Unicorn

One of my nurses who was out in March while waiting for results just started having symptoms again. Previously they were negative but it'a been 3 weeks and they recently had a family member test positive. I've already rescheduled the patients and advanced the nurse's sick leave. They're going to be out for another week while we wait.

There were more people in the grocery store with no protection spending the stimulus money today. But very few masks and I only saw the workers wearing gloves. People were doing price check and putting stuff back. So now the germs are spreading.

Lifting the quarantine is going to lead to carnage. All the people who've been in the house for weeks have no immunity to anything and there's a real chance this virus has mutated since the quarantine was instituted. There's no vaccine and there's no real treatment plan except 'wait to see how bad you get.' This is probably going to be a long and deadly summer.
 

InchHighPrivateEye

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I’m disgusted by all this talk of reopening the country. Last Friday the headlines were that Black ppl were dying at disproportionately high rates. THIS Friday a beach in Florida is open and Texas is beginning to open next week. Are we supposed to pretend we don’t see how evil this is, or does it really not even matter that we see it?

And also............do they not care at all about their loved ones? I mean I get it-they’ve now associated this virus with Black folk, butttttt to the point of risking it all?
 
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