The Covid-19 Thread: News, Preparation Tips, Etc

meka72

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Jmartjrmd

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I did some more research. It's not included on my models. I really appreciate your efforts to help me locate it!
You're welcome. I did some reading up too seems that outside the US they removed the feature and on the newest models they removed the sensor all together. Lots of folks are upset. I had to delete the update and go back to a previous version but it all came back.
Sorry about that I thought if it was on one it would be on all.
 

discodumpling

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I appreciate you posting this, but I don't know where this option is unless it's only on the $900+ Samsung phones. I have a Samsung phone, tablet, and watch and it does not include an oxygen measurement. It doesn't even show as an option in Samsung Health. Stress does, but no O2.
Oxygen saturation test is embedded in the stress test on my Samsung 9+. So take the stress test and get both your heart rate and o2 sat stats.
 

HappyAtLast

Simplicity & Peacefulness
My son isn't getting a check even though he worked and filed taxes for 2019. The reason is because he was my dependent for part of the year while he finished school and even though he moved out in 2019 it doesn't matter. So you think they gave me the money for him? No! Nobody gets it!
I may not for other reasons not mentioned yet. Long story but changing the rules everyday is crazy.
 

Everything Zen

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Hopefully y’all ain’t out here trying to compare Abbott to Theranos... :rolleyes: They went through one of the biggest FDA negligent fines in history years ago just for overstating what one if their drugs could do to doctors that wasn’t on the label. They spun off their entire Biologics and pharmaceutical side of the industry as another company because of it so they never got into that much trouble and faced that much risk again. They immediately went to the agency with this info about the false negatives and they also got approved for another instrument that can take a standard high volume of tests that you would see at a reference lab but the results take longer. It was approved under an Emergency Use. The same thing will happen with the first treatments and vaccines- the risks are weighed against the outcome so it becomes harder to enter the market over time as the quality of potential treatments improves. They ain’t trying to catch that smoke from FDA.

https://www.abbott.com/coronavirus.html
 

Always~Wear~Joy

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Do you know if this is shipped from the US or elsewhere? I can’t seem to find that info. Thanks!

I know you asked her but I wanted to know as well so I messaged them. They said the US warehouse is OOS so they are shipping from China.

 

vevster

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And can I just add ... I love all of you. :2inlove:

Thank you for the positivity, the invaluable information and just being uplifting sister friends throughout all of this madness.

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Welp guess im not getting a check :(
That just doesn't seem fair -- also why are 17 year olds not included? They are still minors!
 
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ThirdEyeBeauty

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Hopefully y’all ain’t out here trying to compare Abbott to Theranos... :rolleyes: They went through one of the biggest FDA negligent fines in history years ago just for overstating what one if their drugs could do to doctors that wasn’t on the label. They spun off their entire Biologics and pharmaceutical side of the industry as another company because of it so they never got into that much trouble and faced that much risk again. They immediately went to the agency with this info about the false negatives and they also got approved for another instrument that can take a standard high volume of tests that you would see at a reference lab but the results take longer. It was approved under an Emergency Use. The same thing will happen with the first treatments and vaccines- the risks are weighed against the outcome so it becomes harder to enter the market over time as the quality of potential treatments improves. They ain’t trying to catch that smoke from FDA.

https://www.abbott.com/coronavirus.html
Not comparing but these companies know the rules will be loose at the beginning and as long as they follow the rules they will receive a long portion of the business funding. Just like "small" (but large) businesses who are not hurting received money that could have gone to the truly small businesses that are hurting. Just like the temporary hospitals quickly built but wasn't really needed (but just in case) received funding. That's how the game works.
 

naturalgyrl5199

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The FDA is basically letting companies put anything on the market right now. No one really knows how trust worthy these newly developed test are. Hopefully we are beginning to develop herd immunity but I wouldn’t rely on a rapid newly developed test to tell me to let my guard down.

Usually lab test have to demonstrate specificity and sensitivity. They have to have a high percentage of detecting positive results and a level of accuracy in making sure positive results/negative results are actually correct. What seems to be happening is we have highly sensitive test-ie good at getting positive results but low specificity-all the positive results are not true positive. If you call everything positive you get high sensitivity ie all positive samples are captured. However you would have low specificity because the positive results are not specific to positive samples.


But because we desperately need testing the normal validation process is being waved.
Agreed----I wouldn't trust ANY antibody test right now or in the fall when the cold and flu season comes. Pretty much most colds are some coronavirus or rhinovirus. Where I live, we got our first FLU hospitalizations in August. AUGUST when the weather is still in the 90's in my part of FL! It takes a LONG time to validate these things and I'm sure this little bugger has mutated. Thats what happens when you don't have people with credentials running the agencies.
 

dicapr

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Agreed----I wouldn't trust ANY antibody test right now or in the fall when the cold and flu season comes. Pretty much most colds are some coronavirus or rhinovirus. Where I live, we got our first FLU hospitalizations in August. AUGUST when the weather is still in the 90's in my part of FL! It takes a LONG time to validate these things and I'm sure this little bugger has mutated. Thats what happens when you don't have people with credentials running the agencies.
Working in a lab I know how long it takes for us to validate a test that is already FDA approved. And sometimes we have to adjust things based on the conditions of our lab and our patient population.

There is no way on earth they developed a good enough test in 2 months to make me feel good about it. Plus POCT testing is not as accurate as regular lab testing for so many reasons! Nope not buying it at all!
 

naturalgyrl5199

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Yes I agree especially since they know this virus can bind to recptors that hemoglobin normally binds to oxygen with. Fortunately or unfortunately I can tell when my oxygen levels are low thanks to my experience with ARDS.
I've said a few times in this thread but I'll say again in case it can help someone but if you have a Samsung phone you can measure your sats on it and it is accurate.
I use mine all the time and I have 2 portable ones from when I was sick and needed home oxygen 24/7.
This was last year but you can see my sats were into the 70s and 80s unable to get above 87. I got admitted the next day.View attachment 458375
I remember when my ex-micropreemie (ya'll e-niece) was a year out of the NICU...I used to watch her breathing like a hawk. I remember one night she woke up fussy but not in pain or visual distress when she was doing these super duper subtle retractions. I remember pacing the hallway in the middle of the night about one minute and I woke DH up and I was like---WE GOING to the ER. Girl my baby's sats were in the low 80's!!! Those people were like OMG get her back here! They were like she don't even look distressed. She had an ear infection.....an EAR infection. Thats it. No strep, no flu, (it was like November and 40 deg in FL), no nothing. But the infection and overall stress to her system caused her sats to drop. I said all of that to tell everyone: Watch your kids breathing!
My youngest (now 2) had her sats drop like a year ago due to some coldvirus. Same thing....subtle change in breathing but her chest was caving in a bit too. Lethargic. Fever....we got moving.
 

TrulyBlessed

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Imagine that, smh. Add to the list of reasons our people are at a disadvantage with this virus.


Detroit man with virus symptoms dies after 3 ERs turn him away, family says: "He was begging for his life"

Updated on: April 22, 2020 / 8:14 AM

A Detroit family is mourning a man they say was turned away from getting tested for the coronavirus three times.

"He was begging for his life, but no one would help him at all. Like they just kept sending him away," said Keith Gambrell, the stepson of 56-year-old Gary Fowler.

Gambrell said he was concerned his stepfather had coronavirus. He took him to three different emergency rooms and said each time, Fowler was not admitted and not tested, despite having many of the symptoms.

"I honestly believe it was because my father was black. They didn't honestly take his symptoms serious enough to give him a test," Gambrell told "CBS This Morning" national correspondent Jericka Duncan.

The day before Fowler died, his father, David, died from COVID-19. Soon after, Fowler's wife, Cheryl, began having symptoms of her own, landing her in the hospital.

"They put her on the ventilator. I'm just thinking like, man, this is it. I'm about to lose my mom too," Gambrell said.

Gambrell was concerned other family members could be next, so he called his cousin, State Representative Karen Whitsett for help.

Whitsett, who visited the White House last week to speak about surviving coronavirus, made sure her family was tested.

Asked if she thinks her family would have been tested if she were not a state lawmaker, Whitsett said, "Absolutely not."

"And that sickens me to have to use that title to be able to have to get my family tested," she said.

Gambrell and his brothers Troy and Ross all tested positive, he said.

On Monday, Michigan's governor created a state task force to investigate racial disparities in the pandemic.

Lieutenant Governor Garlin Gilchrist, who is the chair of the task force, said it will address "the fact that there may indeed be medical bias present when it comes to testing, as in who will even get a test, as well as in how treatment is administered."

Gambrell, who has mild symptoms, is now focused on caring for his mother, Cheryl. She had been sent home from the hospital but was readmitted late Tuesday night on what would have been her 25th wedding anniversary.

Asked what he would say to people who are losing loved ones back-to-back, Gambrell said, "Just pray. You just got to continue to fight for them and live the life that they will live and be their voice. Someone has to speak for the people that can't get medical attention the proper way, and I feel like that's my duty now."

Michigan says it could perform more than 11,000 tests each day if it had enough tests. State officials claim swabs and reagents are in short supply, so right now they are doing about half of that amount.

First published on April 22, 2020 / 8:10 AM

© 2020 CBS Interactive Inc. All Rights Reserved.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronavirus-detroit-man-dead-turned-away-from-er/
 

ThirdEyeBeauty

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^^Even if they wouldn't or couldn't test him for coronavirus it is crazy that they would not admit him or treat his symptoms.
I said the same. Hospitals should keep people who are very concerned about their symptoms especially with breathing problems and risk factors such as diabetes and obesity. Overwhelm the hospitals--transfer him to another one. New York had a nearly empty navy ship hospital ready for C19-like patients. Michigan hospitals and health care providers received 1 billion dollars in C19 aids.
 

vevster

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We need a Dr. Sebi type.

Imagine that, smh. Add to the list of reasons our people are at a disadvantage with this virus.


Detroit man with virus symptoms dies after 3 ERs turn him away, family says: "He was begging for his life"

Updated on: April 22, 2020 / 8:14 AM

A Detroit family is mourning a man they say was turned away from getting tested for the coronavirus three times.

"He was begging for his life, but no one would help him at all. Like they just kept sending him away," said Keith Gambrell, the stepson of 56-year-old Gary Fowler.

Gambrell said he was concerned his stepfather had coronavirus. He took him to three different emergency rooms and said each time, Fowler was not admitted and not tested, despite having many of the symptoms.

"I honestly believe it was because my father was black. They didn't honestly take his symptoms serious enough to give him a test," Gambrell told "CBS This Morning" national correspondent Jericka Duncan.

The day before Fowler died, his father, David, died from COVID-19. Soon after, Fowler's wife, Cheryl, began having symptoms of her own, landing her in the hospital.

"They put her on the ventilator. I'm just thinking like, man, this is it. I'm about to lose my mom too," Gambrell said.

Gambrell was concerned other family members could be next, so he called his cousin, State Representative Karen Whitsett for help.

Whitsett, who visited the White House last week to speak about surviving coronavirus, made sure her family was tested.

Asked if she thinks her family would have been tested if she were not a state lawmaker, Whitsett said, "Absolutely not."

"And that sickens me to have to use that title to be able to have to get my family tested," she said.

Gambrell and his brothers Troy and Ross all tested positive, he said.

On Monday, Michigan's governor created a state task force to investigate racial disparities in the pandemic.

Lieutenant Governor Garlin Gilchrist, who is the chair of the task force, said it will address "the fact that there may indeed be medical bias present when it comes to testing, as in who will even get a test, as well as in how treatment is administered."

Gambrell, who has mild symptoms, is now focused on caring for his mother, Cheryl. She had been sent home from the hospital but was readmitted late Tuesday night on what would have been her 25th wedding anniversary.

Asked what he would say to people who are losing loved ones back-to-back, Gambrell said, "Just pray. You just got to continue to fight for them and live the life that they will live and be their voice. Someone has to speak for the people that can't get medical attention the proper way, and I feel like that's my duty now."

Michigan says it could perform more than 11,000 tests each day if it had enough tests. State officials claim swabs and reagents are in short supply, so right now they are doing about half of that amount.

First published on April 22, 2020 / 8:10 AM

© 2020 CBS Interactive Inc. All Rights Reserved.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronavirus-detroit-man-dead-turned-away-from-er/
 

vevster

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Finally!!

Seriously sick coronavirus patients in New York state’s largest hospital system are being given massive doses of vitamin C — based on promising reports that it’s helped people in hard-hit China. Dr. Andrew G. Weber, a pulmonologist and critical-care specialist affiliated with two Northwell Health facilities on Long Island, said his intensive-care patients with the coronavirus immediately receive 1,500 milligrams of intravenous vitamin C. Identical amounts of the powerful antioxidant are then readministered three or four times a day, he said. Each dose is more than 16 times the National Institutes of Health’s daily recommended dietary allowance of vitamin C, which is just 90 milligrams for adult men and 75 milligrams for adult women. The regimen is based on experimental treatments administered to people with the coronavirus in Shanghai, China, Weber said.

I heard Dr. Richard Cheng has a you tube channel that explains his method. I will give a listen.
 

meka72

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Anyone watching the mayor of Las Vegas lie and obfuscate on CNN with Anderson Cooper?

ETA: Anderson just told her that her statement was ignorant. Lol.

ETA2: She was talking nonsense and he took his glasses off and wiped his eyes. I think the mayor might be drunk or high. Lol.

ETA3: She basically said that it is not her job to worry about testing people, it was up to the employers. She told Anderson that he was alarmist.


 
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