The Covid-19 Thread: News, Preparation Tips, Etc

TrulyBlessed

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1,000 People Attend Chicago House Party During Coronavirus Pandemic
4/26/20

If you had any doubt cases of coronavirus are about to explode because of reckless conduct, check out this video and all doubts will be swiftly erased.

1,000 people ignored the stern warnings of doctors and scientists in a city that has been ravaged by the virus ... and jammed into a house on the westside of Chi-Town.

You see what looks like around 100 people in just one room, dancing as music blares in the background. The rest of the house was also packed with people. It goes without saying but there is no visible social distancing ... none.

One of the partygoers told MTO News, "I'm not worried about [the coronavirus] . . . but if I didn't have it before, I probably got it now. Oh well."

Fact is ... things are coming apart at the seams. Scores of Los Angelenos were out and about Saturday, and anecdotally we can say ... the majority were not wearing masks.
 

dancinstallion

Well-Known Member
^^^I don't have a problem with it. I hope they stay well.

Why dont you have a problem with it?



1,000 People Attend Chicago House Party During Coronavirus Pandemic
4/26/20

If you had any doubt cases of coronavirus are about to explode because of reckless conduct, check out this video and all doubts will be swiftly erased.

1,000 people ignored the stern warnings of doctors and scientists in a city that has been ravaged by the virus ... and jammed into a house on the westside of Chi-Town.

You see what looks like around 100 people in just one room, dancing as music blares in the background. The rest of the house was also packed with people. It goes without saying but there is no visible social distancing ... none.

One of the partygoers told MTO News, "I'm not worried about [the coronavirus] . . . but if I didn't have it before, I probably got it now. Oh well."

Fact is ... things are coming apart at the seams. Scores of Los Angelenos were out and about Saturday, and anecdotally we can say ... the majority were not wearing masks.


I told yall black people dont listen.
 

ThirdEyeBeauty

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Why dont you have a problem with it?

After some time learning more about this novel virus, although symptoms are much worse than the flu for some, the mortality rate is becoming similar to flu as more and more people are tested positive and are asymptomatic. I'm not afraid of anything like that. I will use precaution and eat nutrient dense foods and supplements that boost my immune system. I will suggest the same to my friends. I will also encourage the sick to try to get symptoms under control before you have to go to the hospital. I am appalled nurses are not changing masks (unless all patients test positive as that is understandable). People are not walking in hospitals, not boosting immune in hospitals, or even strengthening lungs in hospitals. I digress. Ultimately, I do not want to take away anyone's natural given freedom. If we take away the rights at this time after learning a little more about this virus, then do the same for the flu that has been around forever and still a pathetic vaccine for it.
Speaking of vaccines, I will refuse.
 
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shelli4018

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Most of the outlets reporting the Cuomo story are right wing. However the Daily Beast reported a confrontation between Chris and a neighbor around Easter. Some guy taunted Cuomo while he was standing in his yard. That’s it. That’s the controversy.

Chris has a wife and 17 year old daughter. I assume those are the two women you’re referring to.
 

nycutiepie

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For those with glasses that fog when wearing masks. Hopefully one of these tips works: https://www.nytimes.com/article/glasses-fog-wearing-mask-coronavirus.html

But I am LOL at the last line in the article about fogging being less of an issue as summer approaches. I live in South Florida. It's 90 degrees outside and my glasses were still fogging up, lol. Maybe it was the temperature contrast between air conditioned buildings and my warm breath from the mask, lol.
Thank you for this
 

Everything Zen

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After some time learning more about this novel virus, although symptoms are much worse than the flu for some, the mortality rate is becoming similar to flu as more and more people are tested positive and are asymptomatic. I'm not afraid of anything like that. I will use precaution and eat nutrient dense foods and supplements that boost my immune system. I will suggest the same to my friends. I will also encourage the sick to try to get symptoms under control before you have to go to the hospital. I am appalled nurses are not changing masks (unless all patients test positive as that is understandable). People are not walking in hospitals, not boosting immune in hospitals, or even strengthening lungs in hospitals. I digress. Ultimately, I do not want to take away anyone's natural given freedom. If we take away the rights at this time after learning a little more about this virus, then do the same for the flu that has been around forever and still a pathetic vaccine for it.
Speaking of vaccines, I will refuse.

I read 8 “I” statements in this post. Not trying to call you out sis but this is an example of the problem.
 

Jmartjrmd

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This is scary. I want are medical folk to chime in on this one.

I'm sure some of this is true however I don't think it's right to put it all on the nurses. Folks love to make the nurse the scapegoat. Nurses do not write orders they simply carry them out. They can make suggestions but often sometimes the MD doesn't listen.
From the ICU nurses that I know that have gone to NYC it's an impossible situation. They've gone from 2 icu patients to 10 ICU patients. Or med surg nurses taking 10 to I've head as much as 16 patients because they were so short. I don't care how super nurse you are you cannot give good care trying to care for 17 patients.
Also some of the drugs she mentioned are experimental and nurses do not prescribe what drugs a patient gets and some of them are having adverse side effects causing more complications than they are helping, the most often I've heard is heart arrhythmias which can be deadly and increase the risk of patient having clots that could lead to stroke or other terrible things. I've heard the plasma infusions are doing a lot of good they are just not widely available.
I do know nurses were putting iv pumps outside the room. I did mention a few pages back that would result in less contact with the patient. In a normal setting you should be in that patient's room every hour to check those lines, to turn every 2 hours to constantly reassess a critical patient. When enough ppe is available that is ideal. But when a patient is on a precaution that requires gown, gloves, mask you need to suit up to go in and do something as simple as turn off a IV pump. I know we go against protocol sometimes and throw on some gloves and a mask to turn off a pump but people are more afraid to do that now and if while you're in there you need to actually touch the patient you are screwed if you're not properly protected.
And let's be real. These changes in protocol are coming from the top down so if we want to put the blame somewhere it starts there. Those decision makers are often not medical people at all.
Now that NYC is reporting less patients being admitted they are cancelling all that extra help they had brought in. They also said nurses and doctors could work off any state license but that order is being cancelled come May 7th where originally it had an ending date of end of June. So essentially all those temporary nurses and others there now will find themselves out of a job come May 7th if NY board doesnt process their licenses before that.
To add when the crisis first started some nurses were inflating their credentials chasing those 5k a week checks so I can see how the standard care and lack of critical thinking would be a problem. They were not checking into what skills the nurse said they had. Essentially you fill out a skills checklist and you can put anything you want. if you did a skill 1 time you could call yourself proficient if you wanted to. The goal of the staffing agencies was to get as many of their nurses up there as possible to collect them coins. Nurses from all.over were quitting their staff jobs to travel there to make that bank. The hospitals were not checking resumes and work history they were counting on the travel companies to do that for them. The hospitals were accepting pretty much anyone who submitted. Greed is what caused unskilled workers to be placed in situations they couldnt handle or had no experience in.
They were also letting senior nursing students and 4th year med students graduate early and "work". These folks are in no way, shape or form ready to take on critical patients or a heavy non critical load either.
As for cpap, bipap, cannula etc every patient is different. Sometimes you less invasive wont cut it. I hate to keep using me as an example but I had ARDS which is what a lot of C19 patients are getting. When I came off the vent the first time and onto bipap I was Struggling so bad my lungs just weren't ready. My sats quickly dropped from 80s to 30s and I had to be intubated again.
Overall from what I've heard I still think these men and women are brave heroes that can only do so much with what they have. IMO 95% of healthcare workers genuinely want to do a good job and save lives so my hat still goes off to those fighting it. I havent seen or heard stories of them sitting around twirling their thumbs.
I have heard they are not aggressively coding people and limiting how long they will run a code.
It's a sad situation all around for everyone involved. It could of been handled better absolutely.
 

Black Ambrosia

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I've been ordering groceries from Kroger for pickup to keep away from crowds and minimize risk as much as possible. Today would've made my second pickup. The first time they called earlier in the day telling me to come an hour later than then the scheduled pick up time. This wasn't a problem but once I got there I had to wait maybe 45 minutes. I'm not a complainer and I understand this is new territory for everyone so I didn't let it faze me.

Today my pick up was scheduled for 3pm. Shortly after noon I got a voice message informing me they had technical issues and they needed me to come tomorrow at 10am instead. About an hour later I got a text and email reminding me to pick up my order at 3pm today. I called to make sure tomorrow is the actual pick up date and ended up being disconnected after listening to a long automated message and waiting for someone to pick up. I'll be there tomorrow at 10 but I'm feeling more and more like its not a reliable option. Before Instacart never had any delivery dates available in my area but I checked just now and that's changed so next time I'll either go that route or try to pick up from a different Kroger.

My Kroger pick up today was bad. They called at 6:40am to remind me of my pick up but, instead of it being at 10am like the voice message said yesterday, it was between 9-10am. I was annoyed because the call woke me up but I got to the store with 5 or 10 minutes to spare. Then I waited close to an hour before they came out with my groceries and I ended up with no meat. We didn't order much but there should've been a large pack of pork chops and another pack of chicken thighs. Neither was in the order. My online total was $160 but my actual receipt total was just under $80. That's how much stuff was missing from my order.

I wonder if it could be a supply chain issue since processing plants are closing but I'm inclined to believe it's a store-level problem. I may try a different Kroger before ditching them altogether.
 

vevster

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I'm sure some of this is true however I don't think it's right to put it all on the nurses. Folks love to make the nurse the scapegoat. Nurses do not write orders they simply carry them out. They can make suggestions but often sometimes the MD doesn't listen.
From the ICU nurses that I know that have gone to NYC it's an impossible situation. They've gone from 2 icu patients to 10 ICU patients. Or med surg nurses taking 10 to I've head as much as 16 patients because they were so short. I don't care how super nurse you are you cannot give good care trying to care for 17 patients.
Also some of the drugs she mentioned are experimental and nurses do not prescribe what drugs a patient gets and some of them are having adverse side effects causing more complications than they are helping, the most often I've heard is heart arrhythmias which can be deadly and increase the risk of patient having clots that could lead to stroke or other terrible things. I've heard the plasma infusions are doing a lot of good they are just not widely available.
I do know nurses were putting iv pumps outside the room. I did mention a few pages back that would result in less contact with the patient. In a normal setting you should be in that patient's room every hour to check those lines, to turn every 2 hours to constantly reassess a critical patient. When enough ppe is available that is ideal. But when a patient is on a precaution that requires gown, gloves, mask you need to suit up to go in and do something as simple as turn off a IV pump. I know we go against protocol sometimes and throw on some gloves and a mask to turn off a pump but people are more afraid to do that now and if while you're in there you need to actually touch the patient you are screwed if you're not properly protected.
And let's be real. These changes in protocol are coming from the top down so if we want to put the blame somewhere it starts there. Those decision makers are often not medical people at all.
Now that NYC is reporting less patients being admitted they are cancelling all that extra help they had brought in. They also said nurses and doctors could work off any state license but that order is being cancelled come May 7th where originally it had an ending date of end of June. So essentially all those temporary nurses and others there now will find themselves out of a job come May 7th if NY board doesnt process their licenses before that.
To add when the crisis first started some nurses were inflating their credentials chasing those 5k a week checks so I can see how the standard care and lack of critical thinking would be a problem. They were not checking into what skills the nurse said they had. Essentially you fill out a skills checklist and you can put anything you want. if you did a skill 1 time you could call yourself proficient if you wanted to. The goal of the staffing agencies was to get as many of their nurses up there as possible to collect them coins. Nurses from all.over were quitting their staff jobs to travel there to make that bank. The hospitals were not checking resumes and work history they were counting on the travel companies to do that for them. The hospitals were accepting pretty much anyone who submitted. Greed is what caused unskilled workers to be placed in situations they couldnt handle or had no experience in.
They were also letting senior nursing students and 4th year med students graduate early and "work". These folks are in no way, shape or form ready to take on critical patients or a heavy non critical load either.
As for cpap, bipap, cannula etc every patient is different. Sometimes you less invasive wont cut it. I hate to keep using me as an example but I had ARDS which is what a lot of C19 patients are getting. When I came off the vent the first time and onto bipap I was Struggling so bad my lungs just weren't ready. My sats quickly dropped from 80s to 30s and I had to be intubated again.
Overall from what I've heard I still think these men and women are brave heroes that can only do so much with what they have. IMO 95% of healthcare workers genuinely want to do a good job and save lives so my hat still goes off to those fighting it. I havent seen or heard stories of them sitting around twirling their thumbs.
I have heard they are not aggressively coding people and limiting how long they will run a code.
It's a sad situation all around for everyone involved. It could of been handled better absolutely.
Thanks for the detailed response.
 

vevster

Well-Known Member
I'm helping a colleague get his levels up. It is critical. I like the HAMMER approach. As told by a doctor in India -- 50,000- 60,000 IUs for 3 days then down to a daily dose. I personally am doing 15,000 IUs daily for the duration of the pandemic.
 

ThirdEyeBeauty

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I'm sure some of this is true however I don't think it's right to put it all on the nurses. Folks love to make the nurse the scapegoat. Nurses do not write orders they simply carry them out. They can make suggestions but often sometimes the MD doesn't listen.
From the ICU nurses that I know that have gone to NYC it's an impossible situation. They've gone from 2 icu patients to 10 ICU patients. Or med surg nurses taking 10 to I've head as much as 16 patients because they were so short. I don't care how super nurse you are you cannot give good care trying to care for 17 patients.
Also some of the drugs she mentioned are experimental and nurses do not prescribe what drugs a patient gets and some of them are having adverse side effects causing more complications than they are helping, the most often I've heard is heart arrhythmias which can be deadly and increase the risk of patient having clots that could lead to stroke or other terrible things. I've heard the plasma infusions are doing a lot of good they are just not widely available.
I do know nurses were putting iv pumps outside the room. I did mention a few pages back that would result in less contact with the patient. In a normal setting you should be in that patient's room every hour to check those lines, to turn every 2 hours to constantly reassess a critical patient. When enough ppe is available that is ideal. But when a patient is on a precaution that requires gown, gloves, mask you need to suit up to go in and do something as simple as turn off a IV pump. I know we go against protocol sometimes and throw on some gloves and a mask to turn off a pump but people are more afraid to do that now and if while you're in there you need to actually touch the patient you are screwed if you're not properly protected.
And let's be real. These changes in protocol are coming from the top down so if we want to put the blame somewhere it starts there. Those decision makers are often not medical people at all.
Now that NYC is reporting less patients being admitted they are cancelling all that extra help they had brought in. They also said nurses and doctors could work off any state license but that order is being cancelled come May 7th where originally it had an ending date of end of June. So essentially all those temporary nurses and others there now will find themselves out of a job come May 7th if NY board doesnt process their licenses before that.
To add when the crisis first started some nurses were inflating their credentials chasing those 5k a week checks so I can see how the standard care and lack of critical thinking would be a problem. They were not checking into what skills the nurse said they had. Essentially you fill out a skills checklist and you can put anything you want. if you did a skill 1 time you could call yourself proficient if you wanted to. The goal of the staffing agencies was to get as many of their nurses up there as possible to collect them coins. Nurses from all.over were quitting their staff jobs to travel there to make that bank. The hospitals were not checking resumes and work history they were counting on the travel companies to do that for them. The hospitals were accepting pretty much anyone who submitted. Greed is what caused unskilled workers to be placed in situations they couldnt handle or had no experience in.
They were also letting senior nursing students and 4th year med students graduate early and "work". These folks are in no way, shape or form ready to take on critical patients or a heavy non critical load either.
As for cpap, bipap, cannula etc every patient is different. Sometimes you less invasive wont cut it. I hate to keep using me as an example but I had ARDS which is what a lot of C19 patients are getting. When I came off the vent the first time and onto bipap I was Struggling so bad my lungs just weren't ready. My sats quickly dropped from 80s to 30s and I had to be intubated again.
Overall from what I've heard I still think these men and women are brave heroes that can only do so much with what they have. IMO 95% of healthcare workers genuinely want to do a good job and save lives so my hat still goes off to those fighting it. I havent seen or heard stories of them sitting around twirling their thumbs.
I have heard they are not aggressively coding people and limiting how long they will run a code.
It's a sad situation all around for everyone involved. It could of been handled better absolutely.
Thank you for this viewpoint.
 

Kanky

Well-Known Member
After some time learning more about this novel virus, although symptoms are much worse than the flu for some, the mortality rate is becoming similar to flu as more and more people are tested positive and are asymptomatic.

Mortality rates is not the entire story. There are reports of strokes and lung damage from people who did not die. The mortality rate is higher than the flu, and the coronavirus antibodies tests are not very accurate and have a high rate of false positives. Go out if you want to (YOLO and all that) but please stop spreading falsehoods.
 

vevster

Well-Known Member
A virologist’s take on Zinc and COVID-19
The email was one that James A. Robb sent to friends and family. He is University of Colorado School of Medicine MD, a pathologist, and molecular virologist who, while at the University of California, San Diego in the 1970s, did pioneering work in understanding coronaviruses. He wrote:

Stock up now with zinc lozenges. These lozenges have been proven to be effective in blocking coronavirus (and most other viruses) from multiplying in your throat and nasopharynx. Use as directed several times each day when you begin to feel ANY “cold-like” symptoms beginning. It is best to lie down and let the lozenge dissolve in the back of your throat and nasopharynx. Cold-Eeze lozenges is one brand available, but there are other brands available.
 

ThirdEyeBeauty

Well-Known Member
Mortality rates is not the entire story. There are reports of strokes and lung damage from people who did not die. The mortality rate is higher than the flu, and the coronavirus antibodies tests are not very accurate and have a high rate of false positives. Go out if you want to (YOLO and all that) but please stop spreading falsehoods.
Point out the falsehoods.
 

Chicoro

5 Year Shea Anniversary: Started Dec 16th, 2016!
Why not go outside daily and get some sun???

I live in France, in an apartment. The country is on lock down. You have to have a signed, dated paper showing where you live, where you are going , what day it is and when you leave your house. You have a set amount of time to go shopping, see a doctor. Although I can go out daily, I must have a completed paper to do so.

More importantly, if one is greatly deficient in vitamin D, it is not enough to go outside to get your levels up. I was given a doctor's prescription the last time to get bring my levels up.
 

Layluh

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Mortality rates is not the entire story. There are reports of strokes and lung damage from people who did not die. The mortality rate is higher than the flu, and the coronavirus antibodies tests are not very accurate and have a high rate of false positives. Go out if you want to (YOLO and all that) but please stop spreading falsehoods.
Right? I started questioning stuff when i read first hand accounts of people being damn near dead but unable to be admitted to a hospital unless they needed intubation AND THEY REPORTED THESE CASES AS MILD. just cause they didnt need to be admitted. Now people who dont need to be admitted are having strokes? Is this still considered mild?

Now scarface and others are on dialysis after they thought they were in the clear. What kind of ****ing virus is this? I dont want no parts of this virus. Im introverted and am perfectly fine with staying home.
 
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