The Covid-19 Thread: News, Preparation Tips, Etc

awhyley

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JULY: Corona + West Nile Virus?

Florida now contending with West Nile Virus in addition to record-high coronavirus cases

Officials in Miami-Dade County said on Thursday that 10 cases of West Nile Virus had been detected — weeks after four cases were reported there.

The Florida Department of Health said on Thursday that 10 residents have contracted the mosquito-borne illness from local transmission, according to the South Florida Sun-Sentinel.

“DOH-Miami-Dade continues to advise the public to remain diligent in their personal mosquito protection effort,” a statement from the department read.

Two cases were previously reported in May and two additional cases were reported on June 11.

The Florida Department of Health said they will update the public on their website.


Florida ladies, BE CAREFUL OUT THERE!!!

Link: https://nypost.com/2020/06/26/west-...Y9R9d2Qwb0gaaQt0YQ1Qw0yX2ivEbx3dCLO_7veazf9Ss
 

Evolving78

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Have you seen the prequel or the reboot of Planet of the Apes?
There was a virus created to treat Alzheimer’s, but humans became infected with it. It had similar symptoms of COVID-19. A pilot was sneezed/coughed on and he became infected. He unknowingly spread the virus all over of the airport and the plane. It became a Pandemic. Apes injected with the virus for testing became intelligent and took over the planet as humans were dying from the virus.

and people who refuse to wear masks and social distance are like the zombies from World War Z
 
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ThirdEyeBeauty

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Please ladies be cautious but don't fear. Question the mainstream media or anyone actually. There are still other contagious diseases in the world such as TB, flu, and MRSA. We took normal precautions.

The key is to take care of yourself. Get food from the outer corner of the supermarket whenever possible because the inner aisles is were most of the heavily processed less nutritious foods are. Take supplements such as vitamins d3, k2, NAC, selenium, b vitamins, zinc, and magnesium. Also drink plenty of water. Exercise and get reasonable sunlight.

Notice the mainstream media and media health science professionals do not feel it is their duty to tell us anything about those things during a pandemic of all times. Question why that is the case.
 

Evolving78

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Please ladies be cautious but don't fear. Question the mainstream media or anyone actually. There are still other contagious diseases in the world such as TB, flu, and MRSA. We took normal precautions.

The key is to take care of yourself. Get food from the outer corner of the supermarket whenever possible because the inner aisles is were most of the heavily processed less nutritious foods are. Take supplements such as vitamins d3, k2, NAC, selenium, b vitamins, zinc, and magnesium. Also drink plenty of water. Exercise and get reasonable sunlight.

Notice the mainstream media and media health science professionals do not feel it is their duty to tell us anything about those things during a pandemic of all times. Question why that is the case.
The behavior and attitude of others is what makes it scary. Someone said that they feel they have a healthy immune system, so they aren’t concerned with anything that’s going on.
 

ThirdEyeBeauty

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The behavior and attitude of others is what makes it scary. Someone said that they feel they have a healthy immune system, so they aren’t concerned with anything that’s going on.
We never could control the behavior of others. That has occurred forever before C19. We can do everything in our power to do the best we can personally. Anyone wants to come over to your home are not allowed for example. Ordering and having food delivered at front door when possible. Ordering N95 mask and gloves may help when you must go outside.
 

Evolving78

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We never could control the behavior of others. That has occurred forever before C19. We can do everything in our power to do the best we can personally. Anyone wants to come over to your home are not allowed for example. Ordering and having food delivered at front door when possible. Ordering N95 mask and gloves may help when you must go outside.
I do all of that, but it’s not just about the virus. It’s the mayhem behind it. People are not thinking clearly and are becoming angry, aggressive, and reactive.
 

Layluh

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I remember us getting a donation of like 500000 kn95 masks and saying out loud they were the worst masks id seen in all of quarantine. The hell is a kn95 just give me an n95


2/ His name was Lucas Rensko and he showed up in a warehouse where there were other “Taskers” earning about $20/hr ripping Chinese masks out of plastic bags and stuffing them into new ones that were identical but for one potentially deadly difference …

3/ The old packages were labeled in all caps “MEDICAL USE PROHIBITED.” The new bags didn’t have that warning.

BeforeAfter
4/ Medical workers’ best defense against a virus that ravages the body with horrifying complexity is a simple, but trustworthy, mask. But many thousands of these repackaged ones were potentially making their way into the Texas supply. Here's the warehouse:
6/ These are labeled AYM-KN95. Early on the FDA approved these for use in healthcare settings. But they were taken off the list in May. They’re nowhere near the 95% effective required - tested as low as 39% in CDC tests …

7/ More curious was a screenshot Rivera posted of a $2k payment from “BM.” One of his Facebook friends noted “looks like code for a drug deal.”
8/ So I pulled out my phone and looked for him on Venmo and was delighted to see all his transactions were public.

Someone named Brennan Mulligan was paying him and others on Venmo to repackage masks. Check it out …
9/ Turns out Mulligan is a successful San Francisco tech/apparel businessman. He runs SKYOU, whose 3D design software lets people customize apparel that ships directly from China …

10/ Makes sense, I thought. As I found in this story, a lot of apparel and textile businesses used China connections to make their way into the mask market. propublica.org/article/the-se…
11/ That “131 boxes to TDEM” is delivery of KN95s to the Texas Division of Emergency Management, Texas’ FEMA, which supplies to hospitals inundated with patients. As you can see … Texas is in trouble.
12/ Rivera and I talked on the phone at length. He agreed to meet in person but then cut off contact as my questions became more uncomfortable. Here’s some of what he told me …

13/ Mulligan had hired him through TaskRabitt to pick up masks arriving in Texas airports via Southwest Cargo jet. Some he delivered to TDEM, others needed to be repackaged.

14/ Rivera spoke as if it was just common sense. They needed to take MEDICAL USE PROHIBITED off the package so Texas could accept the masks. It’s not a big deal, he said, because Texas will inspect the masks. He said it was just red tape.

15/ As our conversations progressed, Rivera started to worry that maybe this wasn’t such a good idea. He was desperate, he said. His main income - doing jobs via TaskRabbit - had dried up because of the pandemic.

16/ That’s when Rivera mentioned he and Mulligan had been contacted by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security.

“His analogy was you’re telling somebody you have a Ferrari but you’re selling a Honda,” Rivera said.

17/ “Are you worried you were complicit in a crime?” I asked

“The more we talk about it, yes,” he said.

Before he hung up and cut off communication, he added: “I’m not the brains of the operation, and I’m definitely not the wallet for it.”

18/ The wallet was Mulligan, who didn’t respond to my calls but sent some brief emails. He blamed the FDA’s flip-flopping on chinese masks and onerous Chinese customs regulations.

19/ He couldn’t get the masks out of China without the non-medical disclaimer, he explained. And the Texas emergency agency would reject anything that had the disclaimer.

20/ He and other mask brokers told me they shipped all these masks in after the FDA cleared a bunch of KN95s, but before they could sell them the FDA kicked a bunch of manufacturers off the list.

21/ So “the only solution,” he said, was to repackage masks. But problem was - the masks he was repackaging weren’t on the FDA’s list of masks OK’d for emergency use. Mulligan says he broke no U.S. laws.

22/ I told TDEM what I had learned and they confirmed Mulligan and Rivera had tried to sell the poor quality masks and Texas rejected them. TDEM’s vetting is really good, a spokesperson said.

23/ Mulligan tried to sell them to another guy, who was trying to sell masks to hospitals in Illinois, but the buyer told me he walked away when he learned they’d been repackaged.

24/ So Mulligan is stuck where a lot of opportunistic mask brokers are - with tons of sub-par masks that governments can’t and shouldn’t buy.

25/ Oh, yeah, and that Homeland Security investigation? The agency said it’s real, but the statement also reads like the law enforcement equivalent of ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
26/ There’s a lot more detail in the story, some funny anecdotes and whatnot. I hope you’ll read it. propublica.org/article/he-rem…
27/ If you know more about PPE brokers and investors, shoot me a note: [email protected]

28/ and if you want to get our next big stories, sign up for propublica’s Big Story newsletter: go.propublica.org/bigstory-social
PS - it remains a mess out here in the Wild West of PPE trading - companies pooping up overnight, untested, some whose owners have questionable backgrounds. Federal agencies say they’re vetting these companies but we’ve found a ton of problems
https://www.propublica.org/article/...eapons-dealer-operating-out-of-someones-house
 

mensa

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She accused the council of smirking:look: behind their masks. That’s the one thing she had right. No one could sit there listening to her rant without laughing behind their masks. I’m sure they had to restrain themselves from :rofl:
Um, how would she know if they were smirking "behind" their masks?:lachen:
 

sunshinebeautiful

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The behavior and attitude of others is what makes it scary. Someone said that they feel they have a healthy immune system, so they aren’t concerned with anything that’s going on.

I've seen quite a few people say the same thing.... so they aren't taking any precautions. We'll see how that works out in the end.

Also, some people are ok with dying from this. I have 2 friends who are fighting with 70+ year old parents about wearing masks, etc., and they say that if they die, they die, and they're ok with it. However, they may spread it to others in the process, and apparently are not concerned with that either.
 

naturalgyrl5199

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I'm sorry but the media is NOT fear-mongering.

The media is not being given the complete story. The gov'''t is preventing the truth from getting out.
The truth is people are antsy, and bored and its summertime and they want to have fun, kids are not in school, so millions of people are testing the waters and making the sometimes hard decision to get out and have some fun---and I get it. <----Businesses are really the problem. They are in a sink or swim mode and are trying to get as much money as they can before a real China-like shut down happens. If we get a new administration, I believe its possible for better or worse... Right now, the current Admin really don't care about any of you and are have pulled federal dollars out of testing sites. Meaning any testing site that was 100% federally funded has now had to shift to private, close down, and/or send people to private or state-sponsored testing sites through grant dollars. Many of these grant dollars are state or privately sourced. Dr. Fauci is doing interviews from his job's hallway, the entire country no longer gets briefs from CDC experts or the Federal Gov'''t leadership. You are now getting briefs from your local or state Gov'''t. This admin is trying minimize this thing.
In my state that ya'll hate with a passion, we now have community spread in our rural areas. I predicted this about 1000 comments ago, and told ya'll thats when you know things are getting dicey. "They" told ya'll things would get BETTER in the summer months....but we have spikes? Make it make sense.
Right now, the media is doing the best it can to get the information to you. Unless you're on the ground, in these streets dealing with this, you just really can't imagine whats going on. While we were crying during these protests...guess what...we were still spiking and doctors and nurses were still doing guerilla warfare fighting this thing. From a journalistic point of view, this is really the best thing about living in the US. Its the media that sheds light on the things that the people in power dont want you to see. It >feels< like fearmongering simply bc its scary. And it is. No doubt. But we still need to chew up the useful bits and spit out the rest.
Don't forget....NOBODY ON THIS PLANET living has experience with how to handle pandemics. So no, even the experts are getting regular curveballs. We need to continue to use common sense, protect our families, hold space for those of us still having to serve the public in these times.
 

naturalgyrl5199

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oh and----please tell your family members to stay out of my state. All I see now are NY, Conn, RI, NJ, Canada tags everywhere (cause they're purposefully opting out of FLYING here) that I didn't see last month. They are crowding beaches and bars (thanks to my stupd Gov) and infecting local wait staff, who take it home to their communities and loved ones. Oh and beaches in my state are closed for the 4th. The uptick in non-school traffic was a clue.
Masks are being mandated in more and more counties and as of this past weekend, more bars have closed temporarily.
 

naturalgyrl5199

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Of course, in my blue county that mandated masks last week, a wacko, sponsored by the local GO.P sued the County Commission and Mayor calling it unconstitutional. In my local moms FB group, they swear you will die having to wear a mask in Walmart for an hour....and that your breathing over time will have long term affects. A pregnant nurse who is a severe asthmatic came in and read the whole comment section for filth. I let them wyte ladies fight it out.
 

naturalgyrl5199

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A kn95 mask is the Chinese version of the N95 mask in the States. Particle capture is the same/equivalent, however, there are stricter requirements around inhaling and exhaling for N95 mask, so N95s are apparently more breathable. If you can, always stick with the N95.
Yep-
Here is the kicker---I mentioned 1000 or so comments back that American Manufcterers are not willing to, and sometimes able to supply N95s. remember just during H1N1 several American Manufacterers almost went bankrupt supplying medical facilities and that was a really short and less fatal virus than COVID19. So its safe to assume American Manufacteres are still unable to provide enough N95s....and its probably by design--->
cause KN95s are cheaper. I mentioned that Trump sent over 30K tons of PPE over to China from the National Supply? But then we're buying all our KN95s (and a whole HEAP of PPE) from China? Was China EVER out of PPE? The amount of PPE sent over probably doesn't equate to what the US has bought from China since March.
1+1 is NOT adding up to 2.
 

naturalgyrl5199

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So for the states that reopened and now have an increase in cases, were the stats released yet?

I've seen memes laughing about how foolish it was, but there were black employees and business owners there who were being forced off of unemployment and back into the workforce.

I want to see the stats because if those are the people who are infected, then those are the people we are laughing at :/
For FL. They are still releasing numbers that show spikes...but its not being reported to our State Health Dept's dashboard in real time. real time meaning a normal spike every few days as tests results are provided. The CDC is trying to eek out information....like the fact that either way, its likely that the actual numbers reported are 9-10x less than actual infection rate.
The stats are interesting and media is confusing.

With Fauci being a health professional, you would think he would give advice, anything, on how we could boost our immune system.
His message is being filtered. They have basically removed his platform. He is giving interviews from the hallway at his job. Hardly a place of honor and respect for an expert to have a platform.
 

naturalgyrl5199

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Last thing from me today:
I know ya'll are suspicious about the kN95s but thats all you see on the streets now besides surgical or homemade.
To get a real N95 its still relatively difficult. The current supply chain cannot meet current demand for a reasonable price. Follow the money, this deal was done with a handshake. China is making a lot of money on the deal at the end of the day.
But truthfully, we are not manufacturing enough N95s either. China can. The dealers are trying to:
1) earn extra income to replace lost income due to COVID-19.
2) full-fill a need.
Just like beer, hair companies like Shea Moisture, and Mane Choice, are getting into the hand sanitizer business, many regular businesses are selling KN95s. They continue to be better than surgical masks, and homemade masks. A KN95 will be just fine for an everyday person going to the store or running errands a few hours. I'm more worried about Medical personnel who the Gov''t has completely turned their backs on.
 

B_Phlyy

Pineapple Eating Unicorn
Last thing from me today:
I know ya'll are suspicious about the kN95s but thats all you see on the streets now besides surgical or homemade.
To get a real N95 its still relatively difficult. The current supply chain cannot meet current demand for a reasonable price. Follow the money, this deal was done with a handshake. China is making a lot of money on the deal at the end of the day.
But truthfully, we are not manufacturing enough N95s either. China can. The dealers are trying to:
1) earn extra income to replace lost income due to COVID-19.
2) full-fill a need.
Just like beer, hair companies like Shea Moisture, and Mane Choice, are getting into the hand sanitizer business, many regular businesses are selling KN95s. They continue to be better than surgical masks, and homemade masks. A KN95 will be just fine for an everyday person going to the store or running errands a few hours. I'm more worried about Medical personnel who the Gov''t has completely turned their backs on.

We can only order 3 boxes N95 masks a week at my clinic. This is an improvement from one box every 20 days at the beginning of the shutdown. Our CEO already said he absolutely wouldn't entertain a KN95 for patient care. He's still trying to find grant money to cover surgical masks for patients. The states I work in mandated face masks when entering buildings but we know our patients. More than half can't afford them and don't have the skills to make them so we will be supplying them. Which is also the supply the staff pulls from.
 

naturalgyrl5199

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We can only order 3 boxes N95 masks a week at my clinic. This is an improvement from one box every 20 days at the beginning of the shutdown. Our CEO already said he absolutely wouldn't entertain a KN95 for patient care. He's still trying to find grant money to cover surgical masks for patients. The states I work in mandated face masks when entering buildings but we know our patients. More than half can't afford them and don't have the skills to make them so we will be supplying them. Which is also the supply the staff pulls from.
I live in a smaller town thats urban, but we are surrounded by rural areas for 150 miles in either direction, including crossing into Georgia. We just got access to some nice cloth masks that they have like 100K to give to community members. So we have been pulling resources together just to get them distributed to the community. There are no limits.

3 boxes N95's week!!!! Lord help.
 
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