The Covid-19 Thread: News, Preparation Tips, Etc

awhyley

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Update: It's Tuesday 2/23 and I feel worse today. Nauseas and I have lose stools. I feel like I need to lie down. I work from home so I've been taking breaks all day. If I was at a job physically I would have to go home. I slept for 9.5 hours last night and I'm still sleepy. I hope you ladies don't mind me coming in here with all these updates. My goal is to inform you just in case you develop symptoms you'll know it happens. If you want the CDC to know about your post-vaccination symptoms (if any) sign up for www.vsafe.cdc.gov. They send me a daily survey check-in and once I start checking the boxes that I'm okay, the check-ins are weekly.

Hang in there @starfish
 

lavaflow99

In search of the next vacation
Oh! I thought it was the other way around. Good to know.

In either case, thanks for your response and I hope that you're feeling better now.
It is the other way around. Pfizer is the one that has to be kept at ultra cold temperatures. Though this week Pfizer apparently made some changes to their rules and the FDA is letting them keep it stored at regular refrigerator temps.

 

mensa

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Update: It's Tuesday 2/23 and I feel worse today. Nauseas and I have lose stools. I feel like I need to lie down. I work from home so I've been taking breaks all day. If I was at a job physically I would have to go home. I slept for 9.5 hours last night and I'm still sleepy. I hope you ladies don't mind me coming in here with all these updates. My goal is to inform you just in case you develop symptoms you'll know it happens. If you want the CDC to know about your post-vaccination symptoms (if any) sign up for www.vsafe.cdc.gov. They send me a daily survey check-in and once I start checking the boxes that I'm okay, the check-ins are weekly.
I hope you'll feel better soon.
 

naturalgyrl5199

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Update: It's Tuesday 2/23 and I feel worse today. Nauseas and I have lose stools. I feel like I need to lie down. I work from home so I've been taking breaks all day. If I was at a job physically I would have to go home. I slept for 9.5 hours last night and I'm still sleepy. I hope you ladies don't mind me coming in here with all these updates. My goal is to inform you just in case you develop symptoms you'll know it happens. If you want the CDC to know about your post-vaccination symptoms (if any) sign up for www.vsafe.cdc.gov. They send me a daily survey check-in and once I start checking the boxes that I'm okay, the check-ins are weekly.
Hope you get to feeling better. Your immune system is doing its thing. Wow! Get on some zinc so you don't completely bottom out.
 

Lylddlebit

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I ain't mad at it. I trust Jesus way more than what I see in people.

"Jesus is my doctor uhhh uhhh
write all of my 'scriptions
Well he... gives me all my medicine in my ro-oooom(because I ain't reckless and take social distancing seriously)
Come oooooooonnnn in my room(that part is for Jesus/The Holy Spirit only, ya'll heard me say I'm social distancing"
Come onnnnnnn in the roo-ooom

I see the humor in stuff but I don't automatically equate leaning on Jesus as throwing common sense out of the conversation and I sure don't disregard the power of blessings in the time of trouble. He's my vaccine too while I exercise good sense, see what I need to in this early group getting their doses before determining I have an actually need to go out. Everyone should be doing a risk/benefit analysis on if and when they roll up their sleeves based on their lifestyles.
 
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starfish

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Update: It's Tuesday 2/23 and I feel worse today. Nauseas and I have lose stools. I feel like I need to lie down. I work from home so I've been taking breaks all day. If I was at a job physically I would have to go home. I slept for 9.5 hours last night and I'm still sleepy. I hope you ladies don't mind me coming in here with all these updates. My goal is to inform you just in case you develop symptoms you'll know it happens. If you want the CDC to know about your post-vaccination symptoms (if any) sign up for www.vsafe.cdc.gov. They send me a daily survey check-in and once I start checking the boxes that I'm okay, the check-ins are weekly.
Update: Its Wednesday 2/24 and I'm fine. Feeling good and normal. And grateful I got the vaccine. Thanks for the well wishes ladies. Stay safe!
 

Crackers Phinn

Either A Blessing Or A Lesson.
I ain't mad at it. I trust Jesus way more than what I see in people.

"Jesus is my doctor uhhh uhhh
write all of my 'scriptions
Well he... gives me all my medicine in my ro-oooom(because I ain't reckless and take social distancing seriously)
Come oooooooonnnn in my room(that part is for Jesus/The Holy Spirit only, ya'll heard me say I'm social distancing"
Come onnnnnnn in the roo-ooom

I see the humor in stuff but I don't automatically equate leaning on Jesus as throwing common sense out of the conversation and I sure don't disregard the power of blessings in the time of trouble. He's my vaccine too while I exercise good sense, see what I need to in this early group getting their doses before determining I have an actually need to go out. Everyone should be doing a risk/benefit analysis on if and when they roll up their sleeves based on their lifestyles.
At this point in the pandemic, somebody who feels the need to plaster that message over the front of their house is not using "Jesus is my vaccine" as a metaphor.
 

vevster

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Update: It's Tuesday 2/23 and I feel worse today. Nauseas and I have lose stools. I feel like I need to lie down. I work from home so I've been taking breaks all day. If I was at a job physically I would have to go home. I slept for 9.5 hours last night and I'm still sleepy. I hope you ladies don't mind me coming in here with all these updates. My goal is to inform you just in case you develop symptoms you'll know it happens. If you want the CDC to know about your post-vaccination symptoms (if any) sign up for www.vsafe.cdc.gov. They send me a daily survey check-in and once I start checking the boxes that I'm okay, the check-ins are weekly.
The Haitian psychic was right........
 

Lylddlebit

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At this point in the pandemic, somebody who feels the need to plaster that message over the front of their house is not using "Jesus is my vaccine" as a metaphor.
and I still respect that. I have experienced literal miracles and healing from the Lord also...so impossible you can't credit nothing but God. So I let their sign and message be their personal testimony because don't nothing tell nobody how good God is like personal experience(s). All I am saying is I understand the message, and exercise wisdom in how I receive that message even when others may disagree.
 
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dancinstallion

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After people have recovered from Covid, it can continue to cause blood clots in active/physically fit individuals and in those who only had a mild case of the disease. So those who were bedridden/hospitalized most likely will be worst off.

Patient is physically fit, young, works out daily, developed blood clots that traveled to both lungs, three months after having a mild case of covid for 10 days.
 

Lylddlebit

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I don't know ya'll. I feel it's foolish for people to not wear masks, and run callously towards stuff just because it is available on one hand, but if people have to be policed into common sense decisions then that flaw can get them killed just as efficiently as Covid (arguably more efficiently than Covid). So I am just going to keep an eye on this stuff. I don't get outraged at options. Being able to watch the outcomes and plan accordingly is pretty valuable.
 
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Lylddlebit

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These types of articles are pretty interesting. In March last year I posted skepticism on if this was a virus where people will have multiple outbreaks or are actually infected multiple times. I know there is a window for the vaccine to take effect and a bunch of other factors involved here but I am interested in all of it: Stories of the vaccine, stories of long term impact of the initial infection, areas that exacerbate and reduce the impact I will keep tracking these types of stories.





 

vevster

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These types of articles are pretty interesting. In March last year I posted skepticism on if this was a virus where people will have multiple outbreaks or are actually infected multiple times. I know there is a window for the vaccine to take effect and a bunch of other factors involved here but I am interested in all of it: Stories of the vaccine, stories of long term impact of the initial infection, areas that exacerbate and reduce the impact I will keep tracking these types of stories.




 

Reinventing21

Spreading my wings
I don't know ya'll. I feel it's foolish for people to not wear masks, and run callously towards stuff just because it is available on one hand, but if people have to be policed into common sense decisions then that flaw can get them killed just as efficiently as Covid (arguably more efficiently than Covid). So I am just going to keep an eye on this stuff. I don't get outraged at options. Being able to watch the outcomes and plan accordingly is pretty valuable.
The problem is that their foolishness doesn't affect only them. I really want to be able to enjoy some semblance of normal life again, but we will never get there with all this selfishness. In the grand scheme of things, one year of acting right is nothing if it meant our lives could return to normal. But nope, selfish people just had to throw their tantrums...
 

B_Phlyy

Pineapple Eating Unicorn
These types of articles are pretty interesting. In March last year I posted skepticism on if this was a virus where people will have multiple outbreaks or are actually infected multiple times. I know there is a window for the vaccine to take effect and a bunch of other factors involved here but I am interested in all of it: Stories of the vaccine, stories of long term impact of the initial infection, areas that exacerbate and reduce the impact I will keep tracking these types of stories.




I've been hearing that this is a TRUE vaccine. It does not prevent you from getting the virus. It allegely mitigates the symptoms. So people testing positive after being vaccinated makes sense, I guess.
This is correct. The reason why the pandemic was/is so bad is because many cases required long hospital stays which pushed many healthcare systems past capacity. The vaccine hopefully decreases the amount of hospitalization and shortens the days needed. This will allow more time for healthcare personnel to stock PPE, medication, and staff be rested to give adequate care.

Most people can usually wait it out at home with regular viral care protocols (fever reducers, fluids, rest).


Yes, so many people do not understand this vaccine or Covid. After all this time, there are people who think that they cannot get Covid again if they had it and people who believe getting this vaccine means they can't contract or spread the virus. Sigh.

It is especially concerning since the new variants seem to be more contagious. People are seeing this as an either or situation when it's a we need to do it all situation. I'm scheduled for my second dose of the vaccine next week and I still will be double masking and staying away from people.
 

Evolving78

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The problem is that their foolishness doesn't affect only them. I really want to be able to enjoy some semblance of normal life again, but we will never get there with all this selfishness. In the grand scheme of things, one year of acting right is nothing if it meant our lives could return to normal. But nope, selfish people just had to throw their tantrums...
It’s like a bad relationship. Your partner just doesn’t want to do right for y’all to work things out and move forward.. lol smh
 

Everything Zen

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Just got off the phone with my parents. We’re trying to figure out what we’re going to do about my little cousin’s wedding this October in Chattanooga, TN. He and his fiancé live in Mississippi and it was already gonna take a whole bunch of shuffling around to get out there one way or another and if these fools from their state are out here milling around all willy nilly I’m feeling some kind of way about the whole thing in my current low priority unvaccinated state and really leaning towards virtual attendance. There may be some butt hurt feelings but at the end of the day me no curr. Hopefully- a big fat wedding gift check along with a mask and bottle of hand sanitizer will get my point across and smooth that mess out. If not- oh the hell well.
 

Black Ambrosia

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WSJ News Exclusive | Russian Disinformation Campaign Aims to Undermine Confidence in Pfizer, Other Covid-19 Vaccines, U.S. Officials Say


The Russians have used online publications to question the safety of Western Covid-19 vaccines, including Pfizer’s.​


WASHINGTON—Russian intelligence agencies have mounted a campaign to undermine confidence in Pfizer Inc.’s and other Western vaccines, using online publications that in recent months have questioned the vaccines’ development and safety, U.S. officials said.

An official with the State Department’s Global Engagement Center, which monitors foreign disinformation efforts, identified four publications that he said have served as fronts for Russian intelligence.

The websites played up the vaccines’ risk of side effects, questioned their efficacy, and said the U.S. had rushed the Pfizer vaccine through the approval process, among other false or misleading claims.


Though the outlets’ readership is small, U.S. officials say they inject false narratives that can be amplified by other Russian and international media.

“We can say these outlets are directly linked to Russian intelligence services,” the Global Engagement Center official said of the sites behind the disinformation campaign. “They’re all foreign-owned, based outside of the United States. They vary a lot in their reach, their tone, their audience, but they’re all part of the Russian propaganda and disinformation ecosystem.”

In addition, Russian state media and Russian government Twitter accounts have made overt efforts to raise concerns about the cost and safety of the Pfizer vaccine in what experts outside the U.S. government say is an effort to promote the sale of Russia’s rival Sputnik V vaccine.

“The emphasis on denigrating Pfizer is likely due to its status as the first vaccine besides Sputnik V to see mass use, resulting in a greater potential threat to Sputnik’s market dominance,” says a forthcoming report by the Alliance for Securing Democracy, a nongovernmental organization that focuses on the danger that authoritarian governments pose to democracies and that is part of the German Marshall Fund, a U.S. think tank.


The foreign efforts to sow doubts about the vaccine exploit deep-seated anxieties about the efficacy and side effects of vaccines that were already prevalent in some communities in the U.S. and internationally. Concern about side effects is a major reason for vaccine hesitancy, according to U.S. Census Bureau data made public last month.

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov denied that Russian intelligence agencies were orchestrating articles against Western vaccines and said U.S. officials were mischaracterizing the broad international debate over vaccines as a Russian plot.

“It’s nonsense. Russian special services have nothing to do with any criticism against vaccines,” Mr. Peskov said in a telephone interview from Moscow. “If we treat every negative publication against the Sputnik V vaccine as a result of efforts by American special services, then we will go crazy because we see it every day, every hour and in every Anglo-Saxon media.”

The State Department GEC official said that four publications had direct links to Russian intelligence and were used by the Russian government to mislead international opinion on a range of issues.

New Eastern Outlook and Oriental Review, the official said, are directed and controlled by the SVR, or Russia’s foreign intelligence service. They present themselves as academic publications and are aimed at the Middle East, Asia and Africa, offering comment on the U.S.’s role in the world. The State Department said in an August report that New Eastern Outlook was linked to “state-funded institutions” in Russia.

Another publication, News Front, is guided by the FSB, a security service that succeeded the KGB, the official said. It is based in Crimea, produces information in 10 languages, and had nearly nine million page visits between February and April 2020, the official added. In August, the State Department was less explicit, saying that News Front reportedly had ties to Russia security services and Kremlin funding.

Rebel Inside, the fourth publication, has been controlled by the GRU, which is an intelligence directorate of the Russian Armed Forces General Staff. It covered riots and protests and now appears dormant, the GEC official said.

The State Department had previously not gone so far as to say that these outlets were controlled or guided by Russian intelligence agencies—an assertion that generally relies on U.S. classified intelligence.

A State Department spokesman didn’t provide specific evidence linking the publications to Russian intelligence but said the assessment was “a result of a joint interagency conclusion.”

“Russian intelligence services bear direct responsibility for using these four platforms to spread propaganda and lies,” the spokesman said. “From the very beginning of the Covid-19 pandemic last year, we have seen Russia’s disinformation ecosystem develop and spread false narratives around the crisis.”

News Front, New Eastern Outlook and Oriental Review didn’t respond to requests for comment.

Social-media accounts affiliated with the four websites have largely been removed from Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, YouTube and Pinterest, though some non-English-language accounts remained active earlier this year.

Highlighting reports in the international media, a January article in News Front played up the risk that a person who receives the Pfizer or Moderna Inc.vaccines could contract Bell’s palsy, in which facial muscles are paralyzed, while a February article focused on a man in California that it said tested positive for Covid-19 after receiving the Pfizer vaccination.

The Covid-19 Pandemic​

In each case, the Russian outlets were repeating actual news reports but overlooking contrary information about the general safety of the vaccine. Numerous studies and real-world data have shown the Food and Drug Administration-approved vaccines to be safe and effective, and hospitalizations and deaths have begun to plummet in places like Israel where shots have been widely administered, though a small number of side effects have been reported.

“To date, millions of people have been vaccinated with our vaccine following the endorsement of regulators in multiple countries,” said Pamela Eisele, a spokeswoman for Pfizer, who added that individuals who have questions should consult the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention website or their healthcare provider.

A spokeswoman for Moderna didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment.

A November article in New Eastern Outlook said that the Pfizer vaccine’s use of mRNA gene editing was “radical experimental technology” that lacked “precision” and said it was rushed through the approval process with the help of billionaire philanthropist Bill Gates and Anthony Fauci, President Biden’s chief medical adviser for the Covid-19 pandemic, both of whom the article accused of “playing fast and loose with human lives in their rush to get these experimental vaccines into our bodies.”

Some New Eastern Outlook articles have been republished by blogs and purported international news sites. One article from January alleged that the U.S. has biological labs around the world that may lead to outbreaks of infectious disease. The article was republished in full or part by websites in Bangladesh, Italy, Spain, France, Iran, Cuba and Sweden, which were reviewed by The Wall Street Journal.

The U.S. has long accused Moscow of carrying out disinformation on medical issues. Judy Twigg, a professor at Virginia Commonwealth University who is an expert on global health issues, said that the Soviet KGB had accused the CIA of spreading dengue fever in Cuba and malaria in Pakistan.


“A persistent KGB campaign claimed that the U.S. Army’s former biological weapons labs at Fort Detrick had unleashed the AIDS epidemic,” she said. Soviet officials denied responsibility for this disinformation.

Thomas Rid, an expert on Russian disinformation at Johns Hopkins University who reviewed the websites cited by the State Department, said the articles were generally in line with Russia’s “rich history” of using communications technology to deceive both international and domestic audiences. He urged the U.S. government to do more to publicly explain how it has concluded the websites are controlled by specific Russian intelligence agencies.

With Russia and China seeking to sell their vaccines abroad, overt efforts to denigrate Pfizer have been well documented. The forthcoming German Marshall Fund report, which was reviewed by the Journal and is to be issued Monday, analyzed more than 35,000 Russian, Chinese and Iranian government and state media tweets on vaccine themes from early November to early February. “Russia provided by far the most negative coverage of Western vaccines.” it states, “with a remarkable 86% of surveyed Russian tweets mentioning Pfizer and 76% mentioning Moderna coded as negative.”
 
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