In normal times, non-pandemic times, the vaccinated don't usually spread things they are vaccinated against. Plus, we are trying to fight a virus thats mutated over 100 times in months.... (yes over 100). Don't forget, we are talking at most a well known 95% effective rate...or lower.
At minimum, 5,000,000 humans of the 100,000,000 vaccinated were going to have breakthrough infection ANYWAY.
So this ain't out the way and the CDC isn't really lying or spreading non-truths. This is what happens when the worst-case scenario ACTUALLY happens. You can go your whole life and never see this.
***Oh and most likely, the VERY SICK vaccinated person mentioned a few comments above likely has Delta, Epsilon, or Lambda variant. Or they are one of the 5-15% of people who got the short end of the stick of vaccine effectiveness. Moderna is 95%, Pfizer was 90-95%, J and J was 92% or something like that. Had we gotten at least 200M vaccinated by this date...we wouldn't be here as bad. Herd immunity works when you can actually achieve it. I just don't see it.
NY state has the highest VAX percent right now. They and other states with higher than 50% rates haven't hit the emergency levels rural counties have. YET.
Ya'll said 2022 and we are 4 months from 2022. Keep your diligence up.
And yes,
Pull out the shields.
I understand and normally would agree with you.
IME, the CDC and the media is spreading false hope to people,The CDC has vaccinated people walking around maskless and no longer social distancing....
A LOT of vaccinated people are/ were walking around like they are IMMUNE/untouchable!
Because no official or CDC Explicitly told them that they could still catch it and DIE. It was portrayed that the risk is so low as to not worry about it and only the unvaccinated are catching it and dying. Which was wrong. With 5 million people potentially having break through cases the risk was high not low. 5 million is not a small number lets forget about percentages.
It's also about who and what you (general you) are reading and paying attention to. I started following several epidemiologists who basically said you best keep your mask, vaccine isn't a cure, studies are still being done on transmission and effectiveness of the vaccines, yada, yada. Some people/experts/media have been warning folks to basically ignore the CDC and keep masked up even if vaccinated.
But I agree, following the CDC to the letter has folks (and companies and businesses really) too comfy.
Right? Anyone who believed that every American person will follow the honor system and believes that every one of the people we see out and about without a mask is vaccinated is an idiot.Not I said the fly!
But my reasons were 100% that I didn't trust the type of people who refused to wear masks or wore them wrong in the first place to not take advantage of the "honor" system. These hoes ain't loyal or honorable.
Not for lack of trying… thanks to our unvaxxed people, combined with the Delta variant, cases have tripled in just two weeks.… NY state has the highest VAX percent right now. They and other states with higher than 50% rates haven't hit the emergency levels rural counties have. YET. …
Now you know your sisters in hair & love wasn’t about to fall for the nonsense! LolRaise your hand if when Biden was talmbout no more masks if you are vaccinated, you ACTUALLY stopped wearing masks (vaccinated or not).
God they slow up there.
Did people think what was going on in India was a joke?Not for lack of trying… thanks to our unvaxxed people, combined with the Delta variant, cases have tripled in just two weeks.
They think they've made it this long without being vaccinated so they're immune system is doing what it's supposed to. Also, they think the vaccine is worse than the virus.Did people think what was going on in India was a joke?
She died in four days. I want to know more details as to why."She said 'I know I do not have COVID. I still can smell and taste. And I am vaccinated.' But when she got to the hospital, [it] turns out she had it," Tara Mosley told WDSU News."
"One of the things that I will say contributed to her death, Angelle was large for her age. She was obese," she said, referring to the fact that people with underlying health conditions are more vulnerable to the worst effects of the virus."
I thought that I was pretty well versed in all things Covid just to find out that even though the information is out there that I was unaware that the old symptoms ain't the new symptoms. The reason Delta is more contagious than regular contagious is the greater population legit don't know that the game has changed.
I have a very small social group of women in my neighborhood. We would gather each week for dinner, social distancing, but ditched the masks once we wevaccinated.
I recently discovered one of them never got vaccinated. She has a problem with it. My other good friend told her about herself .I am really disappointed. She had some crap excuse about not putting unnatural things in her body or some such song and dance. My friend said, “Well what makes you so special? Don’t you think we ALL would rather not inject something foreign into our bodies?” Other friend said she didn’t want to talk about it anymore.
Needless to say, I won’t be hosting dinners anymore, and will not be participating. At least not without my mask.
I was JUST starting to be okay taking my mask down in stores. But it didn’t feel right. I feel most comfortable keeping my habits of shopping online and using instacart.
Y’all even my cousin got vaccinated and she’s Jehovah Witness!!
edit: forgot to mention, that lady knew I thought she was vaccinated and never said anything. It has really changed how I view her. You put my life at risk WTF.
Read something this morning about a school board meeting where mask-less idiots were burning masks. They had to cancel the meeting and they've rescheduled it and will have security present.I’ve been watching these folks on local school Facebook pages arguing about masks. I’m so glad I don’t have to deal with all of the ignorance.
The pediatrician offices are already packed from all of the summer camps. I’m scared for the start of school.
Whoa, where was this?Read something this morning about a school board meeting where mask-less idiots were burning masks. They had to cancel the meeting and they've rescheduled it and will have security present.
Its complete insanity. So happy I don't have to get involved with those folks.
Some friend!I have a very small social group of women in my neighborhood. We would gather each week for dinner, social distancing, but ditched the masks once we wevaccinated.
I recently discovered one of them never got vaccinated. She has a problem with it. My other good friend told her about herself .I am really disappointed. She had some crap excuse about not putting unnatural things in her body or some such song and dance. My friend said, “Well what makes you so special? Don’t you think we ALL would rather not inject something foreign into our bodies?” Other friend said she didn’t want to talk about it anymore.
Needless to say, I won’t be hosting dinners anymore, and will not be participating. At least not without my mask.
I was JUST starting to be okay taking my mask down in stores. But it didn’t feel right. I feel most comfortable keeping my habits of shopping online and using instacart.
Y’all even my cousin got vaccinated and she’s Jehovah Witness!!
edit: forgot to mention, that lady knew I thought she was vaccinated and never said anything. It has really changed how I view her. You put my life at risk WTF.
Two guesses. Florida.Whoa, where was this?
I'm seriously not being mean in any way because this is a topic near to my heart.She died in four days. I want to know more details as to why.
It's too much like right for people to not selfishly put other people at risk when they don't have to. Honestly I want to punch this broad in the throat on your behalf. She has committed a friendship/acquaintanceship ending act as far as I'm concerned.I have a very small social group of women in my neighborhood. We would gather each week for dinner, social distancing, but ditched the masks once we wevaccinated.
I recently discovered one of them never got vaccinated. She has a problem with it. My other good friend told her about herself .I am really disappointed. She had some crap excuse about not putting unnatural things in her body or some such song and dance. My friend said, “Well what makes you so special? Don’t you think we ALL would rather not inject something foreign into our bodies?” Other friend said she didn’t want to talk about it anymore.
Needless to say, I won’t be hosting dinners anymore, and will not be participating. At least not without my mask.
I was JUST starting to be okay taking my mask down in stores. But it didn’t feel right. I feel most comfortable keeping my habits of shopping online and using instacart.
Y’all even my cousin got vaccinated and she’s Jehovah Witness!!
edit: forgot to mention, that lady knew I thought she was vaccinated and never said anything. It has really changed how I view her. You put my life at risk WTF.
The most disturbing thing that I keep reading in this thread is nurses testing positive fully symptomatic showing up to work looking at everybody like "what?"So our COVID testing nurse came in today and started coughing up a lung. Said she's had the cough for 10 days and went to urgent care and all they gave her was some mucinex and tylenol. And oh yeah, she had 2 positives during the clinic yesterday . First time in almost 2 weeks.
I'm need you to get out, right now. I of course said this in a polite and professional tone.
Upper management is now like "but, but... who will do the testing?"
Me: Don't know, and don't care but it's not her. She's leaving. And if she stays, I'm going then.
Mgmt: We'll find a replacement.
She's been getting worked up for the past 45 minutes and then she's going home. I waiting for her to gather her things so I can bomb her station with some Cloralen and Lysol.