Another school shooting 5/24

Black Ambrosia

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Changing the story to make them “look” better. Lies!
I hope they sue this town to oblivion.
Which version makes them look better though? Does their lack of action seem more appropriate because there was fictional engagement with a fictional school resource officer? Or are we supposed to believe they were taking a more 'cautious' approach because they had no idea what was going on inside the building?

If you told me they brushed it off as a hoax and that's why it took so long I wouldn't bat an eye at this point.
 

lavaflow99

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Which version makes them look better though? Does their lack of action seem more appropriate because there was fictional engagement with a fictional school resource officer? Or are we supposed to believe they were taking a more 'cautious' approach because they had no idea what was going on inside the building?

If you told me they brushed it off as a hoax and that's why it took so long I wouldn't bat an eye at this point.
That’s why I put look in quotes. Both look horrible. But no school resource officer being there to engage the gunman befor entering the school looks “less cowardly”.
 

brg240

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I am a little confused by this comment. But isn’t US an only official language English? Why would they need to be addressed in Spanish?
The US has no official language

It's questionable that in an incident that involves mostly Latino kids & family and in a community that is mostly Latino would not take spanish questions or have an interpreter. It just adds an extra barrier to communicating what's going on to the community that should be the primary focus.
 
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naturalgyrl5199

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I'm sorry...sometimes you can kind of tell why some of these kids have problems when just listening to the parents. She is definitely shocked and upset but her tone deafness shows she def missed something in her own child. I also agree with the father being problematic and blaming the mother.

I remember my own parents having so much of their own ish to deal with (including their immaturity, inability to adult where needed) they missed out, and seemed clueless about the deep pain my siblings and I were in. Maybe it was their generation--IDK. But had we not had praying grandmothers, a decent village to surround us, I don't know where we all would have landed. Don't get me wrong...... I don't understand this child at all. We didn't have it in us to bully or hurt anyone with such demonic disregard. But I *SEE* these problematic-behind parents. And its not hard to SEE that his parents dropped something somewhere and never picked that regarding their own child up. His eyes look dead. I mean is that a mugshot or school picture? They lost him long time ago.

For her to say "he had his reasons"
She knew SOMETHING wasn't right with her child.
She knew it.
The daddy too.

I also wonder if he had been living with the grandmother for a while...for certain "reasons."

I'm glad people are no longer accepting the Mental Health as a sole excuse. Gun violence is now the #1 killer of children in America. I see several steps for a simple solution.
 

lavaflow99

In search of the next vacation
I'm sorry...sometimes you can kind of tell why some of these kids have problems when just listening to the parents. She is definitely shocked and upset but her tone deafness shows she def missed something in her own child. I also agree with the father being problematic and blaming the mother.

I remember my own parents having so much of their own ish to deal with (including their immaturity, inability to adult where needed) they missed out, and seemed clueless about the deep pain my siblings and I were in. Maybe it was their generation--IDK. But had we not had praying grandmothers, a decent village to surround us, I don't know where we all would have landed. Don't get me wrong...... I don't understand this child at all. We didn't have it in us to bully or hurt anyone with such demonic disregard. But I *SEE* these problematic-behind parents. And its not hard to SEE that his parents dropped something somewhere and never picked that regarding their own child up. His eyes look dead. I mean is that a mugshot or school picture? They lost him long time ago.

For her to say "he had his reasons"
She knew SOMETHING wasn't right with her child.
She knew it.
The daddy too.

I also wonder if he had been living with the grandmother for a while...for certain "reasons."

I'm glad people are no longer accepting the Mental Health as a sole excuse. Gun violence is now the #1 killer of children in America. I see several steps for a simple solution.
I don’t know if it has been proven but I read somewhere that his mother was on drugs and kicked him out his mother/boyfriend house and he went to live with his grandparents.

(From the article)
Two months ago, he posted an Instagram story in which he screamed at his mother, Adriana M. Reyes, who he said was trying to kick him out of their home, said Nadia Reyes, a high school classmate who is not related to the family.
“He posted videos on his Instagram where the cops were there and he’d call his mom a b---- and say she wanted to kick him out,” Nadia Reyes said. “He’d be screaming and talking to his mom really aggressively.”
Multiple people familiar with the family, including Ruben Flores, 41, said Ramos’s mother used drugs, which contributed to the upheaval in the home. Ramos has an older sister. She is serving in the Navy, military officials confirmed Wednesday.
 

Theresamonet

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This just keeps getting more confusing, or the lie keeps getting more convoluted. What made them think it was not an active shooter situation, needing immediate response? Why would they assume the shooter was not around any children… in a school?

Don’t know if it’s true, but I read on Twitter that some officers were going in and getting their own kids out. This is a mess.

ETA:

Here is a video of an officer admitting it. Now the department is denying it.

 
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brg240

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Also, if the people with guns and training are scared of assault rifles why do we have them? If guns and gun owners are safe/fine why does the NRA convention always ban them?
 

Theresamonet

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Also, if the people with guns and training are scared of assault rifles why do we have them? If guns and gun owners are safe/fine why does the NRA convention always ban them?

What the public safety director was claiming is that this situation was not classified as an “active shooter”. That’s why they didn’t follow this protocol of urgent action. They allegedly thought it was just a subject barricaded in an empty classroom.

Doesn’t make sense at all, but that’s their explanation for why these guidelines weren’t followed.
 

Black Ambrosia

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What the public safety director was claiming is that this situation was not classified as an “active shooter”. That’s why they didn’t follow this protocol of urgent action. They allegedly thought it was just a subject barricaded in an empty classroom.

Doesn’t make sense at all, but that’s their explanation for why these guidelines weren’t followed.
I'm still waiting to hear why they thought that. We know there was no resource officer and people inside the school were calling 911. So basically no reliable sources would be able to say this. This sounds like another lie they're too stupid to not tell.
 
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