PatDM'T
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I was thinking
the same thing.
He may be corrupt
but he's not stupid.
Stupid is saved
for his followers.
Another school shooting 5/24
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the same thing.
He may be corrupt
but he's not stupid.
Stupid is saved
for his followers.
Everything Zen
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Everything Zen
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But the kids are also part of the problem with all this virulent bullying and good for these older students for stepping in and probably intervening on a future school shooter in the making:
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I heard an NPR story yesterday about a 16 year old who made a threatening post that was intercepted and given a second chance who now helps other students in crisis. The young man was so terribly bullied and constantly picked at and in fights he lost his sight in one eye. What’s wrong with these animals?
Classmates wouldn’t sign his yearbook. So older students stepped in. — The Washington Post
An impromptu swarm of older students filed into the sixth-grade class to sign his yearbook.
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I heard an NPR story yesterday about a 16 year old who made a threatening post that was intercepted and given a second chance who now helps other students in crisis. The young man was so terribly bullied and constantly picked at and in fights he lost his sight in one eye. What’s wrong with these animals?
Everything Zen
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Classmates wouldn’t sign his yearbook. So older students stepped in.
An impromptu swarm of upperclassmen filed into the sixth-grade class to sign his yearbook
Cassandra Ridder was crushed when her 12-year-old son Brody came home from school last week with only a few signatures in his yearbook — including his own.
“Hope you make some more friends. — Brody Ridder,” the rising seventh-grader wrote in his own yearbook, which was signed by only two classmates, two teachers and himself.
“It broke my heart,” Ridder said.
Brody has been a student at the Academy of Charter Schools in Westminster, Colo., a public prekindergarten-to-grade-12 school, since fifth grade. He had several friends at his previous school, but over the past two years, he has struggled socially and has been repeatedly bullied, his mother said.
“There’s kids that have pushed him and called him names,” said Ridder, adding that she decided to switch her son’s school before fifth grade to give him more academic support. “Brody has been through a lot.”
Although the bullying somewhat subsided after she addressed her concerns with school administrators in February, she could tell “the teasing was still there,” Ridder said.
When Brody asked his classmates to sign his yearbook on May 24, “they told me no,” he said in a phone interview with The Washington Post. “It made me sad.”
Ridder was devastated for her child.
“We try to teach kindness in our family, and not seeing any kindness from students in his class was appalling to me,” Ridder said.
She shared a photo of her son’s yearbook note in a private Facebook group for parents at the school. She felt angry and helpless, and while she did not ask for her son’s permission before posting, “I knew he would be completely okay with it,” she said. “Brody has always told me he wants to be part of the solution.”
Her primary objective in posting the photo, Ridder explained, was to encourage parents to talk to their children about bullying. She said she’s aware that some parents prefer to keep such matters private, but she thought that being forthright about it might help prevent her son and others from being targeted further.
She hoped people would sympathize with her son’s struggle, but she did not anticipate the outpouring of support that swiftly surfaced after her post — particularly from older students at the school.
As dozens of compassionate comments poured in, several older students — none of whom previously knew Brody — heard about Ridder’s post from their parents. They stepped up to show their support.
Joanna Cooper, 17, received a text message from her mother with a screenshot of Ridder’s post. Right away, the 11th-grader decided, “I’m going to get people and we’re going to sign his yearbook. No kid deserves to feel like that.”
Cooper remembers being Brody’s age, and the intense pressure she felt to fit in. Having signatures in your yearbook wasn’t only a measure of popularity, she recalled, it also meant simply “knowing that you have friends.”
“Signing someone’s yearbook was all the rage,” she said. “That people would tell him no and deny him a signature, it just hurt my heart.”
She contacted several friends and they coordinated to visit Brody’s homeroom class together the following day. Little did she know at the time, but many other students were hatching the same plan.
When Simone Lightfoot, also an 11th-grader at the school, saw Ridder’s post, her first thought was: “I’ll get some of my friends and we’ll go sign it,” she said.
Lightfoot, 17, could relate to Brody’s plight.
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“When I was younger, I was bullied a lot like him,” she said. “If I could do one little thing to help this kid feel a little better, I’d be more than willing to.”
Maya Gregory, an eighth-grader at the school, felt likewise. She, too, was bullied at Brody’s age.
“No one helped me when I was in that situation,” said Maya, 14. “So I wanted to be there for him.”
She rounded up her friends, all of whom were eager to give Brody a confidence boost. The impromptu initiative spread throughout the school, and on May 25, the day after the yearbooks were distributed, a swarm of older students filed into Brody’s sixth-grade classroom, ready to sign his yearbook.
Although he felt shy at first, “it made me feel better,” said Brody, adding that he collected more than 100 signatures and messages of support in his yearbook that day. He also got some phone numbers and a gift bag.
“Just seeing him light up, it felt really good,” said Cooper, who is hoping to spearhead a schoolwide yearbook signing next year to ensure that this doesn’t happen to another child. “It was a small thing, but it made him so happy.”
Plus, and perhaps most important, she added, their efforts set a positive example for students in Brody’s class, particularly those who initially refused to sign his yearbook.
As upperclassmen filled the pages of Brody’s book, several of his classmates got up from their seats and signed their names, too.
“It really showed us that coming in to make his day was already having an impact on the people in his class,” Cooper said.
She and her friends didn’t just sign Brody’s yearbook; they also made an effort to get to know him, and asked about his hobbies — including chess and fencing. Then, they gave him a pep talk, since many of them were once in his shoes, they told him.
“It made me feel like I was not alone,” Brody said.
Maya, for her part, promised Brody that beyond signing his yearbook, she would continue to be there for him. She gave him her phone number, and they have already met for ice cream with a few of her friends. They bonded over their shared experience with bullies, and she imparted words of wisdom: “Whoever is trying to bring you down is already below you,” she told Brody.
The students’ kindness touched school administrators, who said the transition back to in-person classes from remote learning has caused more conflicts and bullying.
“A lot of students are struggling with peer relationships and social skills,” said Brent Reckman, chief executive at the Academy of Charter Schools. “It’s up to us to figure out how to help kids and families with it, but it’s a challenge faced by all schools right now.”
“It can be really tough to be a teenager,” he continued. “I was really impressed with how our students stepped up when they saw a peer in need.”
Ridder echoed his sentiment. While she never predicted her candid post would yield such a meaningful outcome for her son, she’s very grateful that it did.
“It made me feel like there’s still hope,” she said. “Not just for Brody, but for humanity.”
Sydney Page is a reporter who writes for The Washington Post’s Inspired Life blog, a collection of stories about humanity. She has been a contributor to The Post since 2018.
Democracy Dies in Darkness
© 1996-2022 The Washington Post
An impromptu swarm of upperclassmen filed into the sixth-grade class to sign his yearbook
Cassandra Ridder was crushed when her 12-year-old son Brody came home from school last week with only a few signatures in his yearbook — including his own.
“Hope you make some more friends. — Brody Ridder,” the rising seventh-grader wrote in his own yearbook, which was signed by only two classmates, two teachers and himself.
“It broke my heart,” Ridder said.
Brody has been a student at the Academy of Charter Schools in Westminster, Colo., a public prekindergarten-to-grade-12 school, since fifth grade. He had several friends at his previous school, but over the past two years, he has struggled socially and has been repeatedly bullied, his mother said.
“There’s kids that have pushed him and called him names,” said Ridder, adding that she decided to switch her son’s school before fifth grade to give him more academic support. “Brody has been through a lot.”
Although the bullying somewhat subsided after she addressed her concerns with school administrators in February, she could tell “the teasing was still there,” Ridder said.
When Brody asked his classmates to sign his yearbook on May 24, “they told me no,” he said in a phone interview with The Washington Post. “It made me sad.”
Ridder was devastated for her child.
“We try to teach kindness in our family, and not seeing any kindness from students in his class was appalling to me,” Ridder said.
She shared a photo of her son’s yearbook note in a private Facebook group for parents at the school. She felt angry and helpless, and while she did not ask for her son’s permission before posting, “I knew he would be completely okay with it,” she said. “Brody has always told me he wants to be part of the solution.”
Her primary objective in posting the photo, Ridder explained, was to encourage parents to talk to their children about bullying. She said she’s aware that some parents prefer to keep such matters private, but she thought that being forthright about it might help prevent her son and others from being targeted further.
She hoped people would sympathize with her son’s struggle, but she did not anticipate the outpouring of support that swiftly surfaced after her post — particularly from older students at the school.
As dozens of compassionate comments poured in, several older students — none of whom previously knew Brody — heard about Ridder’s post from their parents. They stepped up to show their support.
Joanna Cooper, 17, received a text message from her mother with a screenshot of Ridder’s post. Right away, the 11th-grader decided, “I’m going to get people and we’re going to sign his yearbook. No kid deserves to feel like that.”
Cooper remembers being Brody’s age, and the intense pressure she felt to fit in. Having signatures in your yearbook wasn’t only a measure of popularity, she recalled, it also meant simply “knowing that you have friends.”
“Signing someone’s yearbook was all the rage,” she said. “That people would tell him no and deny him a signature, it just hurt my heart.”
She contacted several friends and they coordinated to visit Brody’s homeroom class together the following day. Little did she know at the time, but many other students were hatching the same plan.
When Simone Lightfoot, also an 11th-grader at the school, saw Ridder’s post, her first thought was: “I’ll get some of my friends and we’ll go sign it,” she said.
Lightfoot, 17, could relate to Brody’s plight.
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“When I was younger, I was bullied a lot like him,” she said. “If I could do one little thing to help this kid feel a little better, I’d be more than willing to.”
Maya Gregory, an eighth-grader at the school, felt likewise. She, too, was bullied at Brody’s age.
“No one helped me when I was in that situation,” said Maya, 14. “So I wanted to be there for him.”
She rounded up her friends, all of whom were eager to give Brody a confidence boost. The impromptu initiative spread throughout the school, and on May 25, the day after the yearbooks were distributed, a swarm of older students filed into Brody’s sixth-grade classroom, ready to sign his yearbook.
Although he felt shy at first, “it made me feel better,” said Brody, adding that he collected more than 100 signatures and messages of support in his yearbook that day. He also got some phone numbers and a gift bag.
“Just seeing him light up, it felt really good,” said Cooper, who is hoping to spearhead a schoolwide yearbook signing next year to ensure that this doesn’t happen to another child. “It was a small thing, but it made him so happy.”
Plus, and perhaps most important, she added, their efforts set a positive example for students in Brody’s class, particularly those who initially refused to sign his yearbook.
As upperclassmen filled the pages of Brody’s book, several of his classmates got up from their seats and signed their names, too.
“It really showed us that coming in to make his day was already having an impact on the people in his class,” Cooper said.
She and her friends didn’t just sign Brody’s yearbook; they also made an effort to get to know him, and asked about his hobbies — including chess and fencing. Then, they gave him a pep talk, since many of them were once in his shoes, they told him.
“It made me feel like I was not alone,” Brody said.
Maya, for her part, promised Brody that beyond signing his yearbook, she would continue to be there for him. She gave him her phone number, and they have already met for ice cream with a few of her friends. They bonded over their shared experience with bullies, and she imparted words of wisdom: “Whoever is trying to bring you down is already below you,” she told Brody.
The students’ kindness touched school administrators, who said the transition back to in-person classes from remote learning has caused more conflicts and bullying.
“A lot of students are struggling with peer relationships and social skills,” said Brent Reckman, chief executive at the Academy of Charter Schools. “It’s up to us to figure out how to help kids and families with it, but it’s a challenge faced by all schools right now.”
“It can be really tough to be a teenager,” he continued. “I was really impressed with how our students stepped up when they saw a peer in need.”
Ridder echoed his sentiment. While she never predicted her candid post would yield such a meaningful outcome for her son, she’s very grateful that it did.
“It made me feel like there’s still hope,” she said. “Not just for Brody, but for humanity.”
Sydney Page is a reporter who writes for The Washington Post’s Inspired Life blog, a collection of stories about humanity. She has been a contributor to The Post since 2018.
Democracy Dies in Darkness
© 1996-2022 The Washington Post
Evolving78
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School is not for socialization. It’s pretty much like prison. Extracurricular activities provide better opportunities for socializing, since one joins a group or activity with other like-minded individuals.
nichelle02
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Well done and moving. The more voices, the better.
ETA that sometimes I hate people. His speech ends at about the 23 minute mark. Some reporter yells out "Were you grandstanding just now Sir?!?"
ETA that sometimes I hate people. His speech ends at about the 23 minute mark. Some reporter yells out "Were you grandstanding just now Sir?!?"
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naturalgyrl5199
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Thank you!
naturalgyrl5199
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Especially if you mean the extracurriculars like Band, Sports, Honor societies, and Chess club, Library club, etc.
I attended a pred black 100 yr old HS that had a robotics team and even a club about gaming before it was called "gaming." We had an actual orchestra, a rock band, a jazz band and a folk band. Then of course Marching Band! We had something for everyone. However there are unspoken barriers:
A lot kids who were low income (often the poor vvhite kids) did not participate due to not just money, their parents didn't often have the ability to pick them up early or late to get to the after school practices or events. Sure that the issue with black kids as well. But in our tighter knit black community, people looked out for each other, because the school had GENERATIONS of families attending. Your granny, aunts, uncles, one or both parents often attended. Someone you knew or your parents knew or played sports, cheered with, etc was now a teacher, coach, guidance counselor, etc in the office. I think I suspect its why you don't have so much mass shootings at pred black HS....cause sure kids get bullied everywhere. Culture matters. But if this continues it will be a matter of time.
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naturalgyrl5199
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Policy-wise, I'm not against better security. Many schools are super old (structure wise) and can easily run drills (amongst teachers, students, and staff, or even parents) on how to address all potential entryway spots and possible loopholes. Police enforcement should know. You don't need local congress or city officials to approve that, just a plan.
I am not against someone like that kid getting on campus with their gun and meeting gunfire. A local county sheriff in FL has decided on a shoot first plan if they see an active shooter and I believe him. He has a reputation.
****Schools can take security a LOT more seriously. My daughter's school has one way in and out and that's through the main office AFTER they see you on camera AND THEN you have to be buzzed in. The entire school is gated and unless you can jump a 10+ foot iron gate, you have to darn near ram the thing with a car to get in when the gate is locked. ----ALSO, parents are no longer able to just verify their identity and say take some cupcakes to the class, or an item to your child, they send a runner to take the item or cupcakes or you drop them off. So if I want to see my child, she is escorted up front. NO parent, even if they know you, can just go to you child's class or roam freely during school hours. That's been since 2020. A teenager would have been terribly inconvenienced by their everyday policy. . If you don't have your license, you have to have a CODE word that's in your child's file. If you forget the code word, you can come back and start the process all over again. (ask me how I know even though they see me all the time/cause I left my wallet in the car!). They do that process every time I come like I'm a complete stranger.
I am not against someone like that kid getting on campus with their gun and meeting gunfire. A local county sheriff in FL has decided on a shoot first plan if they see an active shooter and I believe him. He has a reputation.
****Schools can take security a LOT more seriously. My daughter's school has one way in and out and that's through the main office AFTER they see you on camera AND THEN you have to be buzzed in. The entire school is gated and unless you can jump a 10+ foot iron gate, you have to darn near ram the thing with a car to get in when the gate is locked. ----ALSO, parents are no longer able to just verify their identity and say take some cupcakes to the class, or an item to your child, they send a runner to take the item or cupcakes or you drop them off. So if I want to see my child, she is escorted up front. NO parent, even if they know you, can just go to you child's class or roam freely during school hours. That's been since 2020. A teenager would have been terribly inconvenienced by their everyday policy. . If you don't have your license, you have to have a CODE word that's in your child's file. If you forget the code word, you can come back and start the process all over again. (ask me how I know even though they see me all the time/cause I left my wallet in the car!). They do that process every time I come like I'm a complete stranger.
naturalgyrl5199
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Unfortunately, while I don't think its the schools RESPONSIBILITY to coddle and chase kids, the reality is, the conditions of this country has worsened economically and job-wise for low and middle class Americans, there is no immediate solution that will be a one-size fits all. Parents will have more and more limited birth control choices, parents will be stuck working dead-end jobs and needing them to pay for daycare costs that keep rising, and are harder to find. Parents are worn and distracted. I knew it was bad when about 3-4 (or was in 2 years?) years ago schools in some districts were doing a "School Supper/Dinner" in addition to school lunch and school breakfast. They barely have enough left mentally after a crappy day at an underpaid job to offer their own kids help with homework, a chance to vent about the day or even share successes. Kids with little school friends rely on their parents to fill in that socialization gap. Parents today have been tapped out. It already takes an army of reserves for my husband and I to pull it together for OUR child's HW. Imagine a family with 2-3....shoot 6-7 school aged kids needing help with less resources and income.
Schools present an opportunity to at least have some kind of check in policy when kids may anonymously say "i'm okay, or I'm struggling" and they get a free pass to a guidance counselor for say 1 hour a day during the year. I used to think we can and should shuffle it back to the parents but its unrealistic for a good bit of these kids. Some of these kids were doomed by the time they started HS. Shoot MS. Looking at the 8th grader in the story upthread about the yearbook and you can see in his eyes that there is something missing there ALREADY.
Maybe grants so parents can pay for extracurriculars and help with transportation? Kids NEED socialization at that age with peers.
Schools present an opportunity to at least have some kind of check in policy when kids may anonymously say "i'm okay, or I'm struggling" and they get a free pass to a guidance counselor for say 1 hour a day during the year. I used to think we can and should shuffle it back to the parents but its unrealistic for a good bit of these kids. Some of these kids were doomed by the time they started HS. Shoot MS. Looking at the 8th grader in the story upthread about the yearbook and you can see in his eyes that there is something missing there ALREADY.
Maybe grants so parents can pay for extracurriculars and help with transportation? Kids NEED socialization at that age with peers.
Black Ambrosia
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Everything Zen
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Some people just want to watch the world burn….
MamaBear2012
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Our school district has a day camp for talented and gifted/high achieving students. My kids will be attending this summer. The district has decreased the cost, provide free breakfast and lunch, and are doing what they can to open it up to lower income families that have kids who fit the academic requirements. The unfortunate thing is there is no transportation. And the camp starts at 9. So, unless you have someone who can get you there at 9 and pick you up by 3, you can't attend. And if your parent drops you off early or picks you up after 3, they have to pay the before care/after care rates. And at that adds up!
I've posted before on this board that becoming debt free and becoming a SAHM was in anticipation of how the world was moving. And if schools get too crazy, I can pull my kids and home school if needed.
Evolving78
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I would suggest you homeschool next school year..
Everything Zen
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^^^ In similar fashion, between seeing the need to step in and oversee my father’s glaucoma care, I peeped that something was going to happen in 2020 and fought like hell to get a flexible 100% WFH job that I controlled in March of 2019.
Evolving78
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I saw it too, but couldn’t get a handle on things like I wanted. Now I know I have until Fall.
fifi134
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Against my better judgment, I took the subbing job. It's day 2 and we've had not one but TWO lockdowns ON THE SAME DAMN DAY as bullets were found in the bathroom. The superintendent literally announced the ending of the first lockdown after just over an hour, and during transition, as kids were going to their next class and finally using the bathroom, they announced another lockdown not even 3 minutes later. What. The.
I let one little Black girl use the bathroom during the transition and she was gone while the next one was announced. She must have been so scared using the bathroom and being so far from class. Thankfully she went to another class and she's safe there.
Everything Zen
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My close guy friend quit subbing after Uvalde. Not worth it.Against my better judgment, I took the subbing job. It's day 2 and we've had not one but TWO lockdowns ON THE SAME DAMN DAY as bullets were found in the bathroom. The superintendent literally announced the ending of the first lockdown after just over an hour, and during transition, as kids were going to their next class and finally using the bathroom, they announced another lockdown not even 3 minutes later. What. The.
I let one little Black girl use the bathroom during the transition and she was gone while the next one was announced. She must have been so scared using the bathroom and being so far from class. Thankfully she went to another class and she's safe there.
fifi134
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It really isn't. Let alone the fact that kids need to use the bathroom and they can't leave. Hell, I have to use the bathroom but I can't. I've been asking them to hold it in because I don't want them all peeing in buckets (which is the protocol)...
Everything Zen
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Uvalde school police chief defends shooting response, says he didn't know he was in charge — USA TODAY
Uvalde school police chief Pete Arredondo has been at the center of backlash over delayed police response to the Uvalde, Texas school shooting.
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Black Ambrosia
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Everything Zen
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Between this and Jan 6th…
nichelle02
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I'm tired of reality being kept under wraps. People need to see that things don't happen the way they do in the movies. Show it. Show it all. I didn't feel this way before but I even support making public the pictures of the children who were ripped apart and decapitated by the fire power of an AR-15. It's not the same thing, but Emmett Till's mother made her point by putting it all on display.
We're going to come out of all of this with possibly some minor tweaks when real change is needed.
We're going to come out of all of this with possibly some minor tweaks when real change is needed.
Everything Zen
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Source: Police never tried to open door to classrooms where Uvalde gunman had kids trapped — San Antonio Express-News
Surveillance footage shows that police never tried to open a door to two classrooms at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde in the 77 minutes between the time a gunman entered the rooms and massacred 21 people and officers finally stormed in and killed him, according to a law enforcement source...
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Source: Police never tried to open door to classrooms where Uvalde gunman had kids trapped
Surveillance footage shows that police never tried to open a door to two classrooms at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde in the 77 minutes between the time a gunman entered the rooms and massacred 21 people and officers finally stormed in and killed him, according to a law enforcement source close to the investigation.
Investigators believe the 18-year-old gunman who killed 19 children and two teachers at the school on May 24 could not have locked the door to the connected classrooms from the inside, according to the source.
On ExpressNews.com: Minute-by-minute reconstruction of Uvalde school shooting
All classroom doors at Robb Elementary are designed to lock automatically when they are closed so that the only way to enter from the outside is with a key, the source said. Police might have assumed the door was locked, but the latest evidence suggests it may have been open the whole time, possibly due to a malfunction, the source said.
The surveillance footage indicates gunman Salvador Ramos, 18, was able to open the door to classroom 111 and enter with an assault-style rifle, the source said.
Another door led to classroom 112.
On ExpressNews.com: Remember the lives lost in Uvalde school massacre
Ramos entered Robb Elementary at 11:33 a.m. that day through an exterior door that a teacher had pulled shut but that didn’t lock automatically as it was supposed to, indicating another malfunction in door locks at the school.
Police finally opened the door to classroom 111 and killed Ramos at 12:50 p.m. Whether the door was unlocked all along remains under investigation.
Regardless, officers had access the entire time to a “halligan” — a crowbar-like tool that could have opened the door to the classrooms even if it was locked, the source said.
On ExpressNews.com: At a cemetery in Uvalde, an everlasting grief
Two minutes after Ramos entered the building, three Uvalde police officers chased him inside. Footage shows that Ramos fired rounds inside classrooms 111 and 112, briefly exited into the hallway and then re-entered through the door, the source said.
Ramos then shot at the officers through the closed door, grazing two of them with shrapnel. The officers retreated to wait for backup and heavy tactical equipment rather than force their way into the classrooms.
Pedro “Pete” Arredondo, the Uvalde school district police chief and the on-scene incident commander, has said he spent more than an hour in the hallway of the school. He told the Texas Tribune that he called for tactical gear, a sniper and keys to get inside. He said he held officers back from the door to the classrooms for 40 minutes to avoid gunfire.
When a custodian brought a large key ring, Arredondo said he tried dozens of the keys but none worked.
But Arredondo was not trying those keys in the door to classrooms 111 and 112, where Ramos was holed up, according to the law enforcement source. Rather, he was trying to locate a master key by using the various keys on doors to other classrooms nearby, the source and the Texas Tribune article said.
While Arredondo waited for a tactical team to arrive, children and teachers inside the classrooms called 911 at least seven times with desperate pleas for help. One of the two teachers who died, Eva Mireles, called her husband by cellphone after she was wounded and lay dying.
The massacre occurred two days before the start of summer break, on the same day as a just-completed awards ceremony for the 3rd and 4th-graders at Robb Elementary.
Days after the massacre, Steven McCraw, director of the Texas Department of Public Safety, said at a news conference that “each door can lock from the inside” and that when Ramos went in, “he locked the door.” That information was preliminary, the source said, and further investigation by the Texas Rangers has yielded new revelations about the door.
As the investigation has unfolded, law enforcement has changed the story of the massacre several times, adding to public confusion over how police responded to the mass shooting.
Days after the shooting, DPS said the exterior door that Ramos entered had been left propped open by a teacher. It wasn’t. She had closed it. And the agency also corrected early misinformation that school police shot at Ramos before he entered the school. No school police officers confronted him outside the school.
DPS and Uvalde city officials have refused to provide further details, citing an ongoing criminal investigation into the massacre by Uvalde District Attorney Christina Mitchell Busbee.
The Texas Rangers, with assistance from the FBI, are investigating the police response. Separately, the Justice Department is conducting a “critical incident review” of the police response.
U.S. Rep. Joaquin Castro, D-San Antonio, said he was upset by the new details.
“As more of the story comes out, I’m shocked like the rest of the country at the incompetence and dereliction of duty by multiple law enforcement agencies who failed to save those kids,” Castro said. “I’m also increasingly disturbed by what looks like an attempt to cover up the truth by state officials and the local police department who have refused to comply with requests to release information to the public.”
State Rep. Roland Gutierrez, D-San Antonio, whose district encompasses Uvalde, said he was unaware of the revelations about the door. If the door was unlocked the entire time — or if police could have forced their way in regardless — then people likely died unnecessarily, he said.
“If that’s true, we probably could have saved three or four extra children,” Gutierrez said. “The teacher possibly could have been saved. We know two kids had gunshot wounds that they bled out from. We know that one teacher was alive when they pulled her out and she died on the way to the hospital.”
Any law enforcement agency whose officers waited in the hallway for more than an hour “committed negligence,” he said, if the door could have easily been breached the entire time.
Gutierrez added that investigators should immediately clarify exactly how police responded — or failed to respond — to the massacre.
“What were the failures?” Gutierrez continued. “Were they communication failures? Were they human error failures? Were they system failures? Or was it simply something as simple as not turning a doorknob? We need to know that. And the fact that they are hiding all of this information from the public and community in Uvalde is just a tragedy.”
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PatDM'T
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Source: Police never tried to open door to classrooms where Uvalde gunman had kids trapped — San Antonio Express-News
Surveillance footage shows that police never tried to open a door to two classrooms at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde in the 77 minutes between the time a gunman entered the rooms and massacred 21 people and officers finally stormed in and killed him, according to a law enforcement source...
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Everything Zen
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Updated! Sorry y’all- I can be lazy and thoughtless at times.
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PatDM'T
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I appreciate you.Updated! Sorry y’all- I can be lazy and thoughtless ant times.
LivingInPeace
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I'm beginning to feel the same way. I think people have an idea in their heads that the children got hit in the chest and fell to the ground with blood slowly coming out of a small wound. They don't realize that their bodies were destroyed and that some could only be identified by their shoes.
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