Ayurveda Support Thread

flowinlocks

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Eclipta Alba/Bhringraj out does minoxidil

Hair growth promoting activity of Eclipta alba in male albino rats

Abstract Alopecia is a dermatological disorder with psychosocial implications on patients with hair loss. Eclipta alba Hassk. is a well-known Ayurvedic herb with purported claims of hair growth promotion. In the reported work attempts were undertaken to evaluate petroleum ether and ethanol extract of E. alba Hassk. for their effect on promoting hair growth in albino rats. The extracts were incorporated into oleaginous cream (water in oil cream base) and applied topically on shaved denuded skin of albino rats. The time (in days) required for hair growth initiation as well as completion of hair growth cycle was recorded. Minoxidil 2% solution was applied topically and served as positive control for comparison. Hair growth initiation time was significantly reduced to half on treatment with the extracts, as compared to control animals. The time required for complete hair growth was also significantly reduced. Quantitative analysis of hair growth after treatment with petroleum ether extract (5%) exhibited greater number of hair follicles in anagenic phase (69 ± 4) which were higher as compared to control (47 ± 13). The result of treatment with 2 and 5% petroleum ether extracts were better than the positive control minoxidil 2% treatment. Source

Natural hair loss formulations show up competition

Indian scientists have found a natural-based ancient Ayurvedic remedy for hair loss that outperforms the commercial competition, cashing in on the growing popularity for natural products and the extensive market for hair loss treatments.

The three herbs Cuscuta reflexa, Citrullus colocynthis and Eclipta alba have long been known for their hair growth-promoting potential and scientists at the Dr H.S. Gour University in Madhya Pradesh, India, have recently tested various formulations of these herbs on laboratory rats.

Three different polyherbal creams were applied topically to the shaven dorsal skin of rats, the most effective of which outperformed minoxidil (2 per cent) the active ingredient in one of the leading hair loss treatments Rogaine, a product that claims to prevent further hair loss in four out of five men.

Ram Kumar Roy and his team found that both the initiation and the completion of hair growth occurred earlier in rats treated with the most effective of the polyherbal formulations (day 4 and day 17 respectively) in comparison to those that had received topical applications of minoxidil (2 per cent) (day 6 and day 20) and control rats (day 12 and day 24).

It appears that the treatment primarily causes the hair follicle to switch from the telogen (rest) phase to the anagen (growth) phase along with encouraging the retention of the late anagenic hair follicles.

Furthermore the team noted the quality of the new growth as soft, silky and shiny, surprising as some of the previous tests of monoherbal fomulas containing C. reflexa and C. colocynthis had resulted in growth of coarse, rough hair, attributing this to the addition of the herb E. alba, similarly traditionally believed to improve the shine and texture of hair.

This suggests that the formulations may be helpful in the treatment of alopecia, caused by hair follicles moving prematurely into the telogen phase where they are abruptly shed, the most common form of which being male patterns baldness suffered by 60 per cent of men, according to a study by scientists at Vancouver General Hospital.

The biological mechanism that lies behind the success of this treatment is currently being investigated by the team, who are confident that the commercial applications of their formulations will be extensive.

The worldwide market for hair loss treatments was estimated in 2006 at $1 bn and Euromonitor has identified the area as having potential for further growth as it taps into the burgeoning market for male grooming products.

Mayank Thakur, a member of Roy's team stated that "the present work was based on the Ayurvedic literature where these herbs have been used for many years in order to treat hair related disorders and alopecia" thus appealing to the extensive consumer interest in personal care products containing plant extracts.

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*Muffin*

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Eclipta Alba/Bhringraj out does minoxidil

Hair growth promoting activity of Eclipta alba in male albino rats

Abstract Alopecia is a dermatological disorder with psychosocial implications on patients with hair loss. Eclipta alba Hassk. is a well-known Ayurvedic herb with purported claims of hair growth promotion. In the reported work attempts were undertaken to evaluate petroleum ether and ethanol extract of E. alba Hassk. for their effect on promoting hair growth in albino rats. The extracts were incorporated into oleaginous cream (water in oil cream base) and applied topically on shaved denuded skin of albino rats. The time (in days) required for hair growth initiation as well as completion of hair growth cycle was recorded. Minoxidil 2% solution was applied topically and served as positive control for comparison. Hair growth initiation time was significantly reduced to half on treatment with the extracts, as compared to control animals. The time required for complete hair growth was also significantly reduced. Quantitative analysis of hair growth after treatment with petroleum ether extract (5%) exhibited greater number of hair follicles in anagenic phase (69 ± 4) which were higher as compared to control (47 ± 13). The result of treatment with 2 and 5% petroleum ether extracts were better than the positive control minoxidil 2% treatment. Source

Natural hair loss formulations show up competition

Indian scientists have found a natural-based ancient Ayurvedic remedy for hair loss that outperforms the commercial competition, cashing in on the growing popularity for natural products and the extensive market for hair loss treatments.

The three herbs Cuscuta reflexa, Citrullus colocynthis and Eclipta alba have long been known for their hair growth-promoting potential and scientists at the Dr H.S. Gour University in Madhya Pradesh, India, have recently tested various formulations of these herbs on laboratory rats.

Three different polyherbal creams were applied topically to the shaven dorsal skin of rats, the most effective of which outperformed minoxidil (2 per cent) the active ingredient in one of the leading hair loss treatments Rogaine, a product that claims to prevent further hair loss in four out of five men.

Ram Kumar Roy and his team found that both the initiation and the completion of hair growth occurred earlier in rats treated with the most effective of the polyherbal formulations (day 4 and day 17 respectively) in comparison to those that had received topical applications of minoxidil (2 per cent) (day 6 and day 20) and control rats (day 12 and day 24).

It appears that the treatment primarily causes the hair follicle to switch from the telogen (rest) phase to the anagen (growth) phase along with encouraging the retention of the late anagenic hair follicles.

Furthermore the team noted the quality of the new growth as soft, silky and shiny, surprising as some of the previous tests of monoherbal fomulas containing C. reflexa and C. colocynthis had resulted in growth of coarse, rough hair, attributing this to the addition of the herb E. alba, similarly traditionally believed to improve the shine and texture of hair.

This suggests that the formulations may be helpful in the treatment of alopecia, caused by hair follicles moving prematurely into the telogen phase where they are abruptly shed, the most common form of which being male patterns baldness suffered by 60 per cent of men, according to a study by scientists at Vancouver General Hospital.

The biological mechanism that lies behind the success of this treatment is currently being investigated by the team, who are confident that the commercial applications of their formulations will be extensive.

The worldwide market for hair loss treatments was estimated in 2006 at $1 bn and Euromonitor has identified the area as having potential for further growth as it taps into the burgeoning market for male grooming products.

Mayank Thakur, a member of Roy's team stated that "the present work was based on the Ayurvedic literature where these herbs have been used for many years in order to treat hair related disorders and alopecia" thus appealing to the extensive consumer interest in personal care products containing plant extracts.

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Thanks for this information. I've never been able to find bhringraj powder at my local indian stores, but fortunately they do sell napur henna, which contains bhringraj as well as brahmi and amla powders in it, so I'm still using it.
 

flowinlocks

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Thanks for this information. I've never been able to find bhringraj powder at my local indian stores, but fortunately they do sell napur henna, which contains bhringraj as well as brahmi and amla powders in it, so I'm still using it.



Ayurnatural Beauty sells it. It's in the powder section listed as Maka. She's having a 15% off sale on powders for the next few days.
 

sleepflower

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Bumping to ask some questions:

I bought some brahmi a couple of days ago that says it was manufactured or whatever in 2005 and the use-by date is early 2008! :blush: I am assuming I need to throw it away, no?

I was thinking about incorporating ayurvedic practices into my regimen by pre-pooing with oils and then doing some sort of treatment after detangling and shampooing but before deep conditioning. Because the oil will be out of my hair before I add in any powder mixtures, does that mean I have to re-oil up? If I mix oil into the tea rinse will this protect my hair as pre-oiling does?

For those who use coffee makers to brew an strain the teas, what size do you use? (10-cup? smaller? larger?) Do you use the maximum amount of water? How many tablespoons of powder do you use total?

Has anyone figured out a way to put powders in type 4 hair and getting them to rinse out well? I don't mean straining from oil or water, I mean actually putting a paste in the hair, like one would do with henna.

TIA for any answers!
 

flowinlocks

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Bumping to ask some questions:

I bought some brahmi a couple of days ago that says it was manufactured or whatever in 2005 and the use-by date is early 2008! :blush: I am assuming I need to throw it away, no?


Yep it's expired.:yep:


I was thinking about incorporating ayurvedic practices into my regimen by pre-pooing with oils and then doing some sort of treatment after detangling and shampooing but before deep conditioning. Because the oil will be out of my hair before I add in any powder mixtures, does that mean I have to re-oil up? If I mix oil into the tea rinse will this protect my hair as pre-oiling does?


IMO this defeats the purpose of the tea rinse. It's designed to either cleanse, cond., or both.

There is no need to shampoo and tea rinse the same day. I would start by prepooing with the oil, tea rinsing, then dc. Save your shampoo for the week you don't use the tea.



For those who use coffee makers to brew an strain the teas, what size do you use? (10-cup? smaller? larger?) Do you use the maximum amount of water? How many tablespoons of powder do you use total?

Has anyone figured out a way to put powders in type 4 hair and getting them to rinse out well? I don't mean straining from oil or water, I mean actually putting a paste in the hair, like one would do with henna.

The tea seems to be the best method for avoiding a hard rinse out session from the grit on natural hair. If you do try it as a paste I would suggest mixing it with cond. and be prepared rinse over and over. I'm relaxed but Suave Humectant is my cond. of choice for rinsing out powders when I use them as a paste. It has tons of slip. You will need to reapply as many times as needed to remove ALL the powder.

TIA for any answers!


Answers in red.
 

sleepflower

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I had wanted to use the powders for conditioning purposes, not really cleansing. I thought about switching to an ayurvedic shampoo bar, too, just round it out. Are tea rinses more cleansing than conditioning? If so, what is the best way to use powders to condition? (I hope this makes sense :().

Thanks for your advice! Not using the teas every week makes so much sense!
 

flowinlocks

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I had wanted to use the powders for conditioning purposes, not really cleansing.

Then you could mix Bhringraj/maka and Bhrami into your dc or use them as a tea rinse. Hibiscus and Fenugreek are moisturizing also, but I prefer them as teas only.

I thought about switching to an ayurvedic shampoo bar, too, just round it out.

You would use that in place of your regular shampoo and still prepoo with oil first. You would skip this step if you are using the tea rinse.

Are tea rinses more cleansing than conditioning? If so, what is the best way to use powders to condition? (I hope this makes sense :().

Depends on the type of powder used. Can be both. As I stated above, I like mixing the powder with my dc. Or sometimes I'll do a double tea rinse.

Lol, have you been doing any reading? :lol: Not trying to sound sarcastic in anyway.:nono: And I know it's a lot to absorb.:yep: BUT knowing all the pro's and cons, what the powders do, and what to avoid will help you avoid any setbacks.

Thanks for your advice! Not using the teas every week makes so much sense!


I can and do use the tea every week.:yep: I only mentioned alternating if you are going to still use regular poo or the bar.
 

sleepflower

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I do lots of reading, and read in one of the threads a few people still use shampoo, be it their normal shampoo or a shampoo bar, and then utilise other Ayurvedic products elsewhere. I like the effect the powders have on others' hair the best, but do not want to deal with powder left in my hair, nor do I want to waste water trying to get it back out, which is why I asked about tea rinses. I have an idea which powders do what, but did not know if my method was best.

When I tried an all-Ayurvedic regimen before, I did not like it as much as I thought I would. I am curious again and instead of trying what I know I will dislike, I just wanted to incorporate it into my existing regimen, which works for me--hence asking questions before I spent too much money. Apparently I just don't get it and it still is not for me. :nono:
 

flowinlocks

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I do lots of reading, and read in one of the threads a few people still use shampoo, be it their normal shampoo or a shampoo bar, and then utilise other Ayurvedic products elsewhere. I like the effect the powders have on others' hair the best, but do not want to deal with powder left in my hair, nor do I want to waste water trying to get it back out, which is why I asked about tea rinses. I have an idea which powders do what, but did not know if my method was best.


Gotcha!


When I tried an all-Ayurvedic regimen before, I did not like it as much as I thought I would. I am curious again and instead of trying what I know I will dislike, I just wanted to incorporate it into my existing regimen, which works for me--hence asking questions before I spent too much money. Apparently I just don't get it and it still is not for me. :nono:


Don't get discouraged. The important thing to look at is WHAT you were doing before. That could be the reason you didn't like it.:yep:
What is your existing reggie?
 

grow

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great thread!
does anybody have any idea about using maka and hibiscus after doing a color rinse that has hydrogen peroxide in it?

i'm thinking they wouldn't do any harm with a good dc mixed in, but just need to check it out with you ladies first.

thanks alot, ladies!
 

Jewell

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Tried some Kapoor Kachli powder (very fine, like baby powder) mixed with Nexxus Babassu Mud condish, and Aussie Moist. Mixed powder with small amt of water to form a light paste, then squeezed in the conditioners and mixed them all together. Applied to freshly shampooed hair (with diluted shampoo), and my hair felt very soft, yet strong. Usually I get apprehensive about the powders and dont wanna apply to my hair since they can be extremely hard to rinse out fully, but this one (due to its fine texture) was rather easy to cleanse from my hair. I will def. be using this on a regular basis.

Some of the other powders like Brahmi and Amla, I prefer to make teas from. Brahmi was a helluva hard powder to get out of my hair, so I steep it in hot water and strain it, as I learned from a fellow LHCFer. :) I love the Ayurvedic products! Once I finish my stash, I will have all natural or Ayurv. products with the exception of a few styling aids and cheapie conditioners. My hair just does so much better with natural products, including AO. I have my favorite, yet strong-smelling Ayurv. oils as well. I will have a whole shelf full before long, as I'm going to try every single one I can find eventually, even if that means ordering DIRECTLY from India, lol. I's serious abt my hair, now.
 
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flowinlocks

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great thread!
does anybody have any idea about using maka and hibiscus after doing a color rinse that has hydrogen peroxide in it?

i'm thinking they wouldn't do any harm with a good dc mixed in, but just need to check it out with you ladies first.

thanks alot, ladies!

I didn't like Hibiscus mixed with my dc it made it super runny.:nono: I prefer it as a tea. I do however love Maka in my dc.
 

Nubenap22

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Hello Ladies!! I have a question: How does the ayurveda oils interact with your skin? I want to so badly try out more of the Ayurveda powders and oils but I've only tried cassia ( didnt want and color) and vatika oil. I do like both but I do want to venture out and try amla oil and powder and a few of the poo bars from cv.com

I tend to break out when I get excess oils in my skin even after washing and doing a face mask. I just wanted to know did anyones skin act up after being exposed to any of the oils
 

cinnespice

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Hello Ladies!! I have a question: How does the ayurveda oils interact with your skin? I want to so badly try out more of the Ayurveda powders and oils but I've only tried cassia ( didnt want and color) and vatika oil. I do like both but I do want to venture out and try amla oil and powder and a few of the poo bars from cv.com

I tend to break out when I get excess oils in my skin even after washing and doing a face mask. I just wanted to know did anyones skin act up after being exposed to any of the oils

Im new to this too this but I have used amla oil mixed with coconut oil in my hair overnight and an ayurveda shampoo bar from chargrin valley. I love them both and it doesn't seem to bother my skin, but then again you have to try it out and see cause everyone's skin is different.My co-workers are indian so ask them alot about it they are the ones that turned me into an ayurvedic junkie.
I havn't tried the vatika oil yet to see if that breaks out my skin.
 

jem_mcmillan

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Hello Ladies!! I have a question: How does the ayurveda oils interact with your skin? I want to so badly try out more of the Ayurveda powders and oils but I've only tried cassia ( didnt want and color) and vatika oil. I do like both but I do want to venture out and try amla oil and powder and a few of the poo bars from cv.com

I tend to break out when I get excess oils in my skin even after washing and doing a face mask. I just wanted to know did anyones skin act up after being exposed to any of the oils

I have not had a skin problem with any of the oils or powders I use on my hair or face.
 

Nubenap22

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Maybe it's just my skin....where do y'all buy some of your ayurveda oils from? I don't feel like being a mixologist atm....some without mineral oil or any bad stuff?
 

jem_mcmillan

Active Member
So far I have ordered from two places

Ayur Natural beauty http://www.ayurnaturalbeauty.com/categories/Ayurvedic-and-Herbal-Hair-Care/Herbal-Hair-Oils/ I love her Brahmi and Alma oil.

Herbal Health Care store http://www.herbalhealthcarestore.com/index.php?act=viewCat&catId=10 I found this site from this board. I order my henna from this site and about to order more oils and henna. For some reason the shipping is cheaper although its coming from India than if I ordered from a store in the US. I just wish they sold Indigo.
 

Nubenap22

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Oh and I have another question Whats brahmi powder for and what can it be mixed with....I just remembered i had a box of this
 

flowinlocks

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Hello Ladies!! I have a question: How does the ayurveda oils interact with your skin? I want to so badly try out more of the Ayurveda powders and oils but I've only tried cassia ( didnt want and color) and vatika oil. I do like both but I do want to venture out and try amla oil and powder and a few of the poo bars from cv.com

I tend to break out when I get excess oils in my skin even after washing and doing a face mask. I just wanted to know did anyones skin act up after being exposed to any of the oils




I have never had reaction to using the oils.
 

flowinlocks

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So far I have ordered from two places

Ayur Natural beauty http://www.ayurnaturalbeauty.com/categories/Ayurvedic-and-Herbal-Hair-Care/Herbal-Hair-Oils/ I love her Brahmi and Alma oil.


Herbal Health Care store http://www.herbalhealthcarestore.com/index.php?act=viewCat&catId=10 I found this site from this board. I order my henna from this site and about to order more oils and henna. For some reason the shipping is cheaper although its coming from India than if I ordered from a store in the US. I just wish they sold Indigo.


I agree, Ayurnatural is the way to go.:yep:
 

flowinlocks

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Oh and I have another question Whats brahmi powder for and what can it be mixed with....I just remembered i had a box of this


Product Description
Hesh Brahmi Leaves Powder comes as a succor for those with chronic problems with hair. Hair loss, hair thinning, premature graying have become part of the metro life. But nature has a solution for every problem. Hesh Brahmi Powder may help to make hair dark, dense and lustrous. It also strengthens the hair roots, thus controlling hair thinning and hair loss. Regular use leads to control of premature graying. When massaged on the scalp, the product clears dandruff.

Briefly, 'Hesh Brahmi Powder' has the following advantages:

- May help to make hair dark, dense and lustrous
- Strengthens hair roots
- Stops premature greying
- Controls dandruff


Can be used as a paste, (I prefer with cond). Or as a tea. Leaves my hair super soft and strong.

Maybe it's just my skin....where do y'all buy some of your ayurveda oils from? I don't feel like being a mixologist atm....some without mineral oil or any bad stuff?[/QUOTE]


IMO mineral oil isn't bad, just as long as you realize it kinda sits on top of the hair and doesn't penetrate. Personally I use the Ayurvedic oil for the herbs they posses. I could care less about the mineral oil because I'm either using it on my scalp only or as a prepoo. Some of the oils like Vatika have a coconut oil base. Some of the Vadik oils among others have a sesame base.
 

Nubenap22

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Briefly, 'Hesh Brahmi Powder' has the following advantages:

- May help to make hair dark, dense and lustrous
- Strengthens hair roots
- Stops premature greying
- Controls dandruff[/SIZE]

Can be used as a paste, (I prefer with cond). Or as a tea. Leaves my hair super soft and strong.

Maybe it's just my skin....where do y'all buy some of your ayurveda oils from? I don't feel like being a mixologist atm....some without mineral oil or any bad stuff?[/QUOTE]


IMO mineral oil isn't bad, just as long as you realize it kinda sits on top of the hair and doesn't penetrate. Personally I use the Ayurvedic oil for the herbs they posses. I could care less about the mineral oil because I'm either using it on my scalp only or as a prepoo. Some of the oils like Vatika have a coconut oil base. Some of the Vadik oils among others have a sesame base.



Thanks!! I think I might add a tad bit of the to my cassia mix in a week or two!!!
 

Guitarhero

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I am so proud of myself. Following a binge YT watch of ReviveUK on ayurvedic oils, I decided to make my own. Goodness knows, I had a busload of powders going unused and growing by the month because I'll often buy a box or two when I need something at the Indian grocer. Anyhoo, I made my own amla mix oil and used a lot of other herbs alongside. One thing, though, I didn't use a bain Marie like she does, mixing the dry powders into the oil, I used the tea concoction and boiled it down, then added my natural oils, reducing like ghee so the water evaporates. I feel like opening a bidnez lol!
 

Pompous Blue

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I am so proud of myself. Following a binge YT watch of ReviveUK on ayurvedic oils, I decided to make my own. Goodness knows, I had a busload of powders going unused and growing by the month because I'll often buy a box or two when I need something at the Indian grocer. Anyhoo, I made my own amla mix oil and used a lot of other herbs alongside. One thing, though, I didn't use a bain Marie like she does, mixing the dry powders into the oil, I used the tea concoction and boiled it down, then added my natural oils, reducing like ghee so the water evaporates. I feel like opening a bidnez lol!
I may PM you one day if ever I get organized enough to do this. I need detailed instructions.....I hope I'm successful when I make my own oils. Have lots of powders and only use them in my henna mixes. One day I would like to stop ordering the oils and make my own.
 

Guitarhero

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I may PM you one day if ever I get organized enough to do this. I need detailed instructions.....I hope I'm successful when I make my own oils. Have lots of powders and only use them in my henna mixes. One day I would like to stop ordering the oils and make my own.


I was looking at my oil last night and thinking, I don't have that Kapoor kachali or whatever it's called and might not get the green color that ReviveUK on YouTube gets...but this morning, after cooling off, it's GREEN :grin: And it smells divine, much better than the Dabur fragrance. I'm loving it! I got the instruction off IndusLadies forum. They didn't have a specific recipe, just recommendation on how oils are generally made in ayurveda. It took quite a while to get it done...but the results are so worth it. But I have to air out the house lol!
 

Pompous Blue

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I was looking at my oil last night and thinking, I don't have that Kapoor kachali or whatever it's called and might not get the green color that ReviveUK on YouTube gets...but this morning, after cooling off, it's GREEN :grin: And it smells divine, much better than the Dabur fragrance. I'm loving it! I got the instruction off IndusLadies forum. They didn't have a specific recipe, just recommendation on how oils are generally made in ayurveda. It took quite a while to get it done...but the results are so worth it. But I have to air out the house lol!
Wonderful!

I don't know why I forgot about the http://indusladies.com/ website. That's one of the places I copied a henna recipe from last year along with recipes for powders -- moisturizing, hairfall, etc. I love that site!

Off to lurk and learn!
 
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