I Need "the" Remedy for Coily Tangled Natural Ends

dlove

dlove

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My DD has 4a coily hair that I wash and condition weekly. She wears flat twists a week at a time. I trimmed her ends 2 weeks ago. I am still getting tangled, coily ends that break off in my hands and with a jilbere shower comb. It is impedding her progress because before I can even detangle, I get a mound of coily shed hair - long strands with a ball at the end- in the tub.

If you have overcome this issue, please chime in...THANKS IN ADVANCE
 
curlycrocheter

curlycrocheter

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My daughter has extremely fine, fragile hair. I started using Giovanni sas mixed with castor oil, sunflower oil, and apricot seed oil focused on her ends. It has made a world of difference! I keep her hair in a bun for days at a time. Also I tried an avc rinse on her and I saw tangles melt before my eyes.
 
dlove

dlove

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jasmineml said:
My daughter has extremely fine, fragile hair. I started using Giovanni sas mixed with castor oil, sunflower oil, and apricot seed oil focused on her ends. It has made a world of difference! I keep her hair in a bun for days at a time. Also I tried an avc rinse on her and I saw tangles melt before my eyes.
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Thank you. What is Giovanni sas?

MaxJones said:
Try Vaseline or Castor Oil.
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Thank you. When do I apply it? Before the wash, after the wash?
 
Nonie

Nonie

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Finger combing?

I wear twists weeks on end and my ends do coil up and clump but I find stretching out my hair and separating the strands with fingers works very well and I end up with separated strands. You can see what I mean here: YouTube - Finger-Combing 4B Hair My Way

I don't know if you use ACV in your daughter's regimen but using it in my final rinse, I find, makes my strands smooth and easy to slide against each other for seamless finger combing. You may find that applying conditioner might help, but you must stretch out the coils in order to separate them easily. I do not use a comb coz I would not expect any less than what you are experiencing
 
virtuenow

virtuenow

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Since I've been airdrying lately, i have the exact same problem. I will be going back to blowdrying next month. However, I will experiment with some other remedies for the next 2 weeks during my airdry test phase. My hair just seems to be too tightly coiled and with high shrinkage. The ends twist and twirl around themeselves and I end up fighting to save my ends...hmmm
 
alive

alive

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for the days that the hair is up or in a bun, i'd recommend finding a way to baggy the ends after moisturizing to keep it supple all day.

if it's twisted, make sure the hair is twisted to the very end. if you don't plan on undoing them for a twist out, feel free to "borrow" hair from another section to make this work

try just for me detangler for kids. you'll eventually have to shampoo because it has cones, but it does a good job

HTH some
 
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curlyninjagirl

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My best cure for tangles is keeping my hair moisturized and tucked away from the harsh air and weather. I find that tucking my ends away as opposed to sealing with oils is 1000 times more effective. Since I started doing this finger combing is a breeze, the shed hairs just slide right out.

Also, when I moisture daily, I check my ends to make sure I don't have shed hairs balling up at the end of my twists. Since I catch it in time, the one or two shed hairs hanging off just slide right out of the twist with a gentle pull. HTH.
 
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abcd09

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alive said:
if it's twisted, make sure the hair is twisted to the very end. if you don't plan on undoing them for a twist out, feel free to "borrow" hair from another section to make this work
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I'm not sure about braiding/twisting all the way to the ends. Whenever I do this, it is very difficult to undo the braid, and I wind up tearing the ends as they become napped together. :nono: For this type of hair I wouldn't braid to the ends, but I haven't found an effective alternative method either...
 
suburbanbushbabe

suburbanbushbabe

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Spritz a bit of water on the ends just to soften not wet, then Karen's Body Beautiful Ambrosia or Hair nectar, and over that Qhemet Olive Honey Hydrating balm.
 
cmw45

cmw45

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humph...tell me when you find it. The only thing that has gotten ridden of them has been NO manipulation. Like, in braids, twist or cornrows. Anything else and no matter how careful I am they eventually come back.
 
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naheda72

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Try detangling on dry hair prior to washing. I put a thick conditioner in my dry hair and then detangle(with comb and/or fingers). After I detangle each section, I put in a loose twist. Once I have finished, I wash my hair in each section and put back in a loose twist. I think that when your hair is dry it is already stretched, but as soon as water hits it, it coils dramatically. I think prior to wash day the other suggestions are good to try and keep them at bay.
 
Nasdaq_Diva

Nasdaq_Diva

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Have you tried moisturizing and sealing it more often than just on wash day? That may help with the tangles. For me, if I don't keep up on the moisture/sealing on my ends (especially the 4a sections) my ends coil over themsleves and form knots. HTH
 
Ms Lala

Ms Lala

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I think one of the worst days for afro textured hair is wash day, it's when we can lose so much hair. I did a vid on my wash day,Hair washing 1 ; I have greatly cut down breakage by washing in sections. That may help if you don't do that already. Now for my ends specifically Porosity treatments and butters have saved my ends. When I twist I do not twist all the way to the end. I leave the last little bit loose. This allows me to "finger comb"them during the week. I apply butters to my ends regularly and this has GREATLY reduced tangles for me. Also dry ends tend to be tangly as well. Make sure her hair is properly moisturized, I know my ends tend to be more porous then the rest of my hair so sometimes I do a porosity treatment just on the ends. And also it may be that comb, the jilbere snagged my hair. Since switching to seemless combs I rarely see broken hairs. And finally I don't comb my wet hair anymore. Only while damp or even dry w/detangler added. I have read too many things that support that wet hair is at it's most fragile and is more prone to breakage. So if you're combing while soaking wet that may be a big part of the issue as well. IHTH
 
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CaliDiamond

CaliDiamond

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Aloe vera gel smooths the cuticle and makes the hair easier to style and detangle. Try styling her hair with aloe vera gel mixed with some type of light oil to moisturize the hair.
 
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Evolving78

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my hair texture is like that (fine and very coily), and it works best when damp and moisturized. i rarely use a comb as well. i finger comb my hair and use a brush to smooth down my edges. i would only use a comb to part my hair in sections. i wish my mother would have known better when i was younger. that type of texture needs more moisture than oil.
 
darlingdiva

darlingdiva

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naheda72 said:
Try detangling on dry hair prior to washing. I put a thick conditioner in my dry hair and then detangle(with comb and/or fingers). After I detangle each section, I put in a loose twist. Once I have finished, I wash my hair in each section and put back in a loose twist. I think that when your hair is dry it is already stretched, but as soon as water hits it, it coils dramatically. I think prior to wash day the other suggestions are good to try and keep them at bay.
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I have not found the solution to tangled and coily ends, but I have noticed that keeping my hair stretched greatly reduces the tangles. This is why I no longer detangle with watery leave-ins; I now use the detangling method listed above.
 
nkb115

nkb115

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I would suggest doing black tea rinses to help with the shedding. My hair was shedding and breaking and the black tea rinses really helped me. I also started using a homemade avocado and mayo deep conditioner that has also helped. Before I start to do anything with my hair I also moisten it with water first so that the ends loosen up a bit and don't break off. Lastly I use a leave in conditioner that I make myself using knot today, aloe vera juice jojoba oil and coconut oil. It seems to really work wonders on my ends. Hope this helps!
 
ms-gg

ms-gg

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Is the problem with detangling? Have you tried braiding up sections of her hair, then taking down one section at a time to detangle?

I do this, and I use my fingers to finger detangle. I don't even use conditioner to detangle anymore, just some coconut oil and water. After I detangle that section I braid it back up and keep it that way until I am done conditioning my hair and washing it. I keep it braided up until I go to style my hair. If I am wearing a protective style I will take down a braid at a time to do it. If I am wearing it loose I will let it dry first and then take down my hair and wear it out.

In a nutshell I just don't wear my hair in its shrunken state when it is longer. It leads to too many tangles and single strand knots that can be avoided.
 
Rocky91

Rocky91

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ms-gg said:
Is the problem with detangling? Have you tried braiding up sections of her hair, then taking down one section at a time to detangle?

I do this, and I use my fingers to finger detangle. I don't even use conditioner to detangle anymore, just some coconut oil and water. After I detangle that section I braid it back up and keep it that way until I am done conditioning my hair and washing it. I keep it braided up until I go to style my hair. If I am wearing a protective style I will take down a braid at a time to do it. If I am wearing it loose I will let it dry first and then take down my hair and wear it out.

In a nutshell I just don't wear my hair in its shrunken state when it is longer. It leads to too many tangles and single strand knots that can be avoided.
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i so agree with this entire post!!
sidenote: Ms. GG, i remember u from NP!! girl, i love your hair-it's always so thick and lush looking. :grin:
 
Katherina

Katherina

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It may be damage from before her HHJ? In that case cutting would be the only solution.

Otherwise, if you do single twists, try curling her ends to dry on medium small rollers. This will stretch the hair so that it won't tangle throughout the week.

Herbal Essences Hello Hydration is a great detangling conditioner.

Do you let it dry in its shrunken state? This could be a problem. Let it dry in braids before twisting.

HTH :)
 
Soliel185

Soliel185

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Sealing with castor oil or whipped shea butter is a big part of my regimine. A lot of the time I end of using both in varying amounts.

While her hair is in braids/twists remoisturize and seal the ends daily by spritzing with water or moisture mix ( I use aloe vera, glycerine & rosewater) and layering a creamy conditioner you like, then finally sealing once more with the oils. This is only necessary for the last few inches of hair.

On wash/take down day spritz the ends to soften and apply your oil or conditioner of choice. Castor is pretty thick, so for slip something like coconut oil or aussie moist might be better. Let it sit for a little bit. When you're finally ready to start, coat your fingers with oil and start working the ends with your fingers. This should make the detangling painfree and relatively easy.


ETA: if the ends are really tangled I will sometimes use the tip of a fine tooth comb to pick them apart like using a needle to untangle a necklace chain. Don't comb thru the ends, juist use the tip to slide the ind. strands apart.
 
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iri9109

iri9109

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im gonna have to agree with the ladies that suggested castor oil...its nice and thick and leaves my hair soo soft for days when i seal with it...and i feel that it lubricates the hair well so that the curls cant curl up on each other as much and get tangled or knotted as easily
 
virtuenow

virtuenow

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Oh yeah, here is a link I meant to post of a woman detangling her 4b kids hair: YouTube - Detangling 4b Hair- Part 1

I think I have a solution. I am tailoring it and it works on my airdried hair. Will try to update later-- but finger detangling before wash sounds like a go- and it has worked for me. I give up on wet detangling for now. Ms. Lala, I think you're right, I just stretch and snap too much hair on the wet method. It seems to be more fragile (and flexible but not in a good way)
 
AfroKink

AfroKink

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For the past 6 months I've been rollersetting my hair. This helps my hair stay kinky-straight. During the week I spray with my leave-in and smooth on oil before smoothing my fingers through my hair to remove shed hairs. When my ends get curly I sleep in soft rollers to straighten then out again.
 
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