I Keep Hearing Believers Talk About Soulmates

Detroit2Dallas

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This conversation just keeps coming up. What is your take on soulmates?

I'll give my opinion after you ladies have made yours. :yep:
 

Rainbow Dash

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Do they mean the person that God has given you as a spouse? I don't use the word but I'm curious to hear what others have to say.
 

LucieLoo12

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I dont know about the term soul mates..

The bible says marry whom YOU will in the Lord....so do I think there is a specific person out there for me? I dont know...But i do believe God does ordain things..But i do believe that God knows who I am going to marry and He is preparing him for me :grin:
 

Iwanthealthyhair67

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I guess the question is what IS a soul mate or a soul tie ...scripturally speaking the bible does not mention soul mate however it does mention a soul tie soult ties can be good and bad ...
 

Shimmie

"God is the Only Truth -- Period"
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This term is used too loosely. One's soul belongs to Jesus Christ, not another human being.

This is one of the sad reasons people get into bondage with soul ties; calling another person one's soulmate. Personally I just do not use the term. There are too many spiritual connotations behind it. How does one know what is attached to another's soul? To call one a soulmate means taking onto one's self, whatever is attached to another's soul.

The term, husband, wife, my helpmeet suitable :lol:, 'My Love', are more truthful and are Biblical at that.
 

LucieLoo12

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Agree...I just dont like the term because people put a biblical stance on it when its not even biblical..

This term is used too loosely. One's soul belongs to Jesus Christ, not another human being.

This is one of the sad reasons people get into bondage with soul ties; calling another person one's soulmate. Personally I just do not use the term. There are too many spiritual connotations behind it. How does one know what is attached to another's soul? To call one a soulmate means taking onto one's self, whatever is attached to another's soul.

The term, husband, wife, my helpmeet suitable :lol:, 'My Love', are more truthful and are Biblical at that.
 

LucieLoo12

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And it came to pass, when he had made an end of speaking unto Saul, that the soul of Jonathan was knit with the soul of David, and Jonathan loved him as his own soul.

(1 Samuel 18:1 KJV).


This?
 

Mis007

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This conversation just keeps coming up. What is your take on soulmates?

I'll give my opinion after you ladies have made yours. :yep:

Op your very pretty, here's my two cents, I believe in soul mates but I think that sometimes they may never find each other !!!
 

Iwanthealthyhair67

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yes ...'Knit' 'tie' and 'joined'

imo, the two shall become one goes far deepr than a 'soul tie'

“Do you not know that he who unites himself with a prostitute is one with her in body? For it is said, ‘The two will become one flesh.’” (1 Corinthians 6:16). Note that the body is joined; the Bible says nothing of the souls being joined.

consummation also joins literally ...

And it came to pass, when he had made an end of speaking unto Saul, that the soul of Jonathan was knit with the soul of David, and Jonathan loved him as his own soul.

(1 Samuel 18:1 KJV).


This?
 

Detroit2Dallas

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Although this isnt the first time I've heard this discussion this is where the discussion came from:

EX Ministries

Just heard TD Jakes say that there is no perfect match or soul mate for people to marry. He said "out of 6billion people, you mean to tell me there is only 1 person you can connect with?" He said "what if they are in Antarctica where you can't find them?" then he quickly moved to the next point while the crowd continued to celebrate his words. People of God, please pray for your brothers and sisters that are ingesting his New Age Philosophy. It is deadly poison and many are drinking it. Jude 4 - For certain men have come among you secretly, marked out before in the holy Writings for this evil fate, men without the fear of God, turning his grace into an unclean thing, and false to our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ
 

Detroit2Dallas

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Here are some of the responses to ^^^that statement:

Wow! Help Your People Lord!

Yeah that comment he made, definitely caught my attention....ummmmmm!???

Is there anything Biblical to contradict that?

thats crazy!

The thing about the comment was that it had absolutely nothing to do with what he was talking about. He just slipped it in and then moved on. Kinda like the Ruth and Naomi lesbian comment he made. Dropping NewAge bombs in. How sad


The body is so weak it will fall for anything and the sad part people will defend this. Now that is sad. It is the body fault because we have allowed God to be replace with so call superstar Bishops and mega- church lying preachers.

Kundalini spirit at work in his ministry.

Wow, talking about putting my God in a box..smh!

Yes. If you marry a person, they ARE your perfect soul mate. You totally missed it dude. The sanctity of marriage makes the person the one for you. If you marry them, they are the one!

These are MY responses, this thing has like 200 something responses so I just wanted to give you guys a taste, but this is how I feel:

So it wasnt what he said but the fact that it was randomly made? Because i dont buy into the notion of soul mates either. Ive never read anything about it in the bible. Ive read about people desiring their mate only but never about soul mates. I actually just had this discussion a few weeks ago with a friend. What am I missing?


Ok I got cha. See I DO belive that when you married you become one but as far as a soul mate outside of marriage that doesnt sit well with me. i agree with what your saying G. Craig but was Jakes making this statement in a sort of pro marriage context? As if to promote marriage and tell folks that they need to stop playing around and playing house using the excuse that they are waiting on their soul mate and marry? See cause I dont believe that you have to find a soul mate. I believe that you find one that you love and are compatible with and you become soul mates through marriage.

I am not married (Sorry I just saw that question). Like I said I dont believe in soul mates outside of marriage. The bible said he that findeth a wife findeth a good thing not he that findeth a soul mate. It also tells us that marriage is honorable in God's eyes and so on and so forth.

But in this context (and I dont fool with TD Jakes, although people down here in Dallas think hes the best thing since sliced bread) as I was saying, in this context I dont get that he was saying you can dip and dabble and do whatever with whom ever since you cant connect with folks anyway. I'm going to take it one step further an say that Jakes wasnt addressing the married people with this statement. Sounds like he was addressing the single folks in a pro marriage context. again I did not hear the statement and have no desire too lol. So yes I believe that your soul mates in marriage but how can you be a soul mate outside of marriage???

Your desire for this person to be your wife or husband doesnt make that person your soul mate. Give me some scripture, am I not knowledgeable because I am not married? I dont get FROM THAT STATEMENT that Jakes was refering to his marriage or stepping on the marriage covenant. But give me scripture, Im seeking wisdom on this issue. What marriage in the bible was a soul mate marriage BEFORE the union of marriage?

He said
if u don't know the person is a soul mate before marriage then why marry? U better know it

Soul mate, weddings vows, wedding rings are all our creation to symbolize our union. If u get technical and say soulmate is not biblical then neither are wedding rings. But we use them. Stop folks. U are killing this thread with deep foolishness in defense of a man that is new age. Please stop

He went on to say that when he met his wife he knew she was the only one, the ONE. So I said:

I'm by no means defending a new age anything, but I have a problem with that soul mate word and notion that folks keep throwing around. But if you are using it in the context of symbolizing the love for your spouse then of course it makes perfect sense (and its actually exactly what I've been saying but thats neither here nor there). Outside of that union, it doesnt really work. You knew your wife was the ONE but you were not soul mates prior to the covenant of your marriage marriage. NOW you are, that is your mate, your other half. Prior to the marriage she was your love, your desire (not to be mistaken for lust).

Yes when I finally meet the guy that I marry then of course I'm going to believe that he is my one-stop-shop so to speak aka the one and only for me. I actually think we agree on the same points but just like this statement its all about perspection and context. Now shoot, Jakes COULD have been talking about dipping and dabbing but since I dont know I wont make an assumption on that, I just thought he was talking to the unmarried folk. And the only reason I am even commenting is because I enjoy your page and ministry, other then that Jake could be speaking a different language because I never listen to his stuff anyway.
 
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Iwanthealthyhair67

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think I watched this before, is this the one where Bishop jakes implied that Johnathan & David had a less than Godly relationship....

think he also did the same with Ruth and Naomi
 
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Poohbear

Fearfully Wonderfully Made
I like the explanation on gotquestions.org...



Question: "Is there such a thing as soul mates? Does God have one specific person for you to marry?"

Answer: The common idea of a “soul mate” is that for every person, there is another person who is a “perfect fit,” and if you marry anyone other than this soul mate, you will never be happy. Is this concept of a soul mate biblical? No, it is not. The soul mate concept is often used as an excuse for divorce. People who are unhappy in their marriage sometimes claim that they did not marry their soul mate and therefore should divorce and begin the search for their true soul mate. This is nothing more than an excuse, a blatantly unbiblical excuse. If you are married, the person you are married to is your soul mate. Mark 10:7-9 declares, “A man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh." So they are no longer two, but one. Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate.” A husband and wife are “united,” “one flesh,” “no longer two, but one,” and “joined together,” i.e., soul mates.

A marriage may not be as unified and joyous as a couple wishes it to be. A husband and wife may not have the physical, emotional, and spiritual unity that they desire. But even in this instance, the husband and wife are still soul mates. A couple in such a situation needs to work on developing true “soul mate” intimacy. By obeying what the Bible teaches about marriage (Ephesians 5:22-33), a couple can develop the intimacy, love, and commitment that being “one flesh” soul mates entails. If you are married, you are married to your soul mate. No matter how disharmonious a marriage is, God can bring healing, forgiveness, restoration, and true marital love and harmony.

Is it possible to marry the wrong person? If we give ourselves to God and seek His guidance, He promises to direct us: “Trust in the LORD with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways acknowledge him and he will make your paths straight” (Proverbs 3:5-6). The implication of Proverbs 3:5-6 is that if you are not trusting in the Lord with all your heart, and are leaning on your own understanding, you can go the wrong direction. Yes, it is possible, in a time of disobedience and lack of close fellowship with God, to marry someone whom He did not desire you to marry. Even in such an instance, though, God is sovereign and in control.

Even if a marriage was not God’s desire, it is still within His sovereign will and plan. God hates divorce (Malachi 2:16), and “marrying the wrong person” is never presented in the Bible as grounds for divorce. The claim “I married the wrong person and will never be happy unless I find my true soul mate” is unbiblical in two respects. First, it is a claim that your wrong decision has overridden God’s will and destroyed His plan. Second, it is a claim that God is not capable of making a struggling marriage happy, unified, and successful. Nothing we do can disrupt God’s sovereign will. God can take any two people, no matter how mismatched, and mold them into two people who are perfect for each other.

If we maintain close fellowship with God, He will lead us and guide us. If a person is walking with the Lord and truly seeking His will, God will lead that person to the spouse He intends. God will lead us to our “soul mate” if we submit to Him and follow Him. However, being soul mates is both a position and a practice. A husband and wife are soul mates in that they are “one flesh,” spiritually, physically, and emotionally united to each other. In practice, though, there is a process of taking what a couple is, soul mates, and making that a day-by-day reality. True soul mate oneness is only possible by implementing the biblical pattern of marriage.

Source: http://www.gotquestions.org/soul-mates.html
 

Poohbear

Fearfully Wonderfully Made
I know soul tie wasn't mentioned in the original post, but Iwanthealthyhair67 mentioned it in her post. I also liked what gotquestions.org said about soul ties too....




Question: "What does the Bible say about soul ties?"

Answer: The phrase “soul ties” is not in the Bible; rather, the idea of soul ties is a man-made speculation which some teachers superimpose onto Scripture in an attempt to explain certain human behaviors. Soul ties are said to be connections from one person's soul to (or into) another person's soul, a concept that has no basis in Scripture.

The Bible does speak of close friendships, such as that of David and Jonathan. “The soul of Jonathan was knit with the soul of David, and Jonathan loved him as his own soul” (1 Samuel 18:1 KJV). This is simply a way of expressing Jonathan’s total commitment to, and deep friendship with, David. To try to make this passage teach a mystical binding of the actual soul is unwarranted.

The Bible also warns against entering ungodly relationships. “My son, if sinners entice you, do not give in to them. … do not go along with them, do not set foot on their paths” (Proverbs 1:10, 15). This passage and others like it caution us against the wrong types of friends but stop short of describing any type of spiritual union of souls.

We also have clear warning against fornication in Scripture. “Do you not know that he who unites himself with a prostitute is one with her in body? For it is said, ‘The two will become one flesh.’” (1 Corinthians 6:16). Note that the body is joined; the Bible says nothing of the souls being joined.

The Bible presents evil as addictive; however, nowhere does the Bible speak of “fragmented” souls or “dividing” one’s soul. In short, the Bible gives us clear direction for our lives, and we know the remedy for sin is to confess it and forsake it (1 John 1:9; John 8:11). There is no need for overly complex human theories such as “soul ties.”

Source: http://www.gotquestions.org/soul-ties.html
 

Shimmie

"God is the Only Truth -- Period"
Staff member
It's a 'worldly term'. :yep:

However, Adam said to Eve,

And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.

Genesis 2:23

This 'soul mate' business is why people are so messed up. Getting involved with the wrong person and when the break up comes, they can't get 'free' from them for their souls have been tied (mated).

We have to very careful with this 'terminology'. I know it sounds romantic and eternal for a relationship, however there's nothing romantic about it's consequences. All you hear is, he/she's my soulmate...we're tied together forever. Then as soon as one breaks the relationship, the other person is devastated. Why? The power of the Words they spoke over their souls. Confessing one to be a soulmate is just that serious with undesirable consequences.

Our souls belong to Jesus Christ who was beaten, bruised and bled and died for our souls to not be lost in eternity.

Jesus told us...

In your patience possess ye your souls...Luke 21:19

He didn't say for anyone else to have our souls tied/mated to.
 

LucieLoo12

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Hmmm interesting...the more I read the more I disagree with the soul mate thing..:nono:

U just need to make it work with whoever you with. It would be a horrible thing to be married and wonder "is my soul mate out there some where"...thats horrible...
 

JayAnn0513

I make 30 look good!
Lol @ your soul mate is who every you marry, because you are stuck with them.

I don't use or like the term but the got questions response is pretty dead on.
 

Detroit2Dallas

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Right, so no I dont believ in soul mates outside of the reign of marriage. Like I look at my old pastor and his wife and believe that they are surely soul mates (if you want to use that word) they belong together, but I bet years and years ago when they first met they werent soul mates. I say this though because their connection appears deep.

In the bible God didnt make ANYONE marry, they made a choice to marry the woman that they loved (I mean think about Rachel and Leah)

God gives man a choice on who he wants to marry, thats your choice and God will honor your covenant with your spouse because marraige is honorable and favorable in the sight of God.

Now as far as TD Jakes, idk what he was getting at I took it as him telling the unmarried folks to get married stop using that as an excuse because its not that deep. But some took it as TD Jakes promoting multiple mates and and spouses.

I beleive that God created man and woman to, IF THEY DESIRE, cleave to each other in marriage, as you grow in your marriage, faith and love you will be growing into that "soul mate" type of connection. But as for looking for your soul mate? No, I dont understadn the concept. I've never read anything about it in the bible and I'm a bible reader. Even the concept doesnt exist in the bible. But love that runs deep, like the love that Jacob had for Rachel is the kind that could be considered a "soul mate" type of love..its the closest thing I can think of off the top of my head.
 

Detroit2Dallas

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so soul mate really is a worldy phrase like; 'the one'


Yes. pretty much but the debate came in that TD Jakes is saying there is no ONE.

I think there is the ONE but not in the way that the media pushes. I think that their is a choice in which ONE a man choses, like Adam didnt have a choice because God gave him a woman...there was no other so think about thaat too... but David, Jacob, Moses, Samson,Esau, Solomon etc all these men had a choice (within the realm of the Law)

God didnt tell them (except to not mix) a specific woman to marry, I believe that God gives us a choice and honors our choice.

But I dont know, its confusing because then people got mad because I said that you want to find someone to be compatible with and folks started acting like I said something crazy but in my book compatibility is the same as equally yoked.

So what say you ladies?
 

LucieLoo12

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well i guess to what extent you base compatibility on??

...Of course spiritually we need to be on the same page...

Also, if he wants 6 kids, that may be something we need to discuss because I only want like 1 maybe 2 :look:

But other natural things can be discussed in marriage counseling before we get married


Spiritual marriage counsel BEFORE we get married is a MUST!!!
 

Detroit2Dallas

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Compatibility= equally yoked in MY book

The MOST important thing is that your future husband loves God with all his heart and that he desires a heart like Him so that the things that break His heart will break your future hubbys and the things that pleases God will please him, (for his sake as well as yours)then you are able (in my opinion) to put your whole trust in your husband because he honors you due to his honor and love for God. When a man fully understands and ACCEPTS his responsibilty for his role in the marriage in relation to God then you'll be fine and everything else can be worked out.


BUTTTTTTTT I aint never been married so girl I could just be talking, shoot, idk my dog gone self, is that like a unicorn?
 

Laela

Sidestepping the "lynch mob"
Detroit, you always ask the tough questions.. lol

Just sharing what I believe:

I believe that we are triune beings - spirit, mind (soul), and body. I don't believe that the spirit and the soul are interchangeable. the Spirit man is the one the Holy Spirit 'marries' to, according to Ezekiel 36. It is where God speaks to us (our heart), where He communes with us. It's our Inner Man.

All souls belong to God (Ezek 18:4), because they all came FROM Him... it is sin that keeps this union from existing for non-believers. When a person becomes born again, their spirit becomes one with God's and their mind is subjected to the Holy Spirit, which then controls the body...

That being said and out the way...

I believe 'soulmate' to be carnal... like-mindedness, not necessarily involving God, because it involves only one area of the triune being. Some call it "true love" But Believers know the only TRUE LOVE is God, with Jesus being lover of the soul.

So to me, it's incomplete. A complete being, to me, is according to 1 Thess 5:23:

May the God of peace Himself sanctify you wholly; and may your spirit and soul and body be kept sound and blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ."


I used to believe we have one person designated on this planet for me, but have come to realize God would ordain unions or place certain people in our paths, for His purpose - but He also will not choose for us, like with Jacob.
 
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