Reason for tangled and webbed hair

Lilmama1011

Well-Known Member
She also says oil and conditioner is pointless? I wonder about Vaseline. I don't agree when she said the relaxer gets pushed back more and more, it wouldn't because the new growth would be there by next relaxer so why would you keep pushing the relaxer farther down your hair shaft?
 

yaya24

♥Naija°Texan • Realtor • SPX Options #RichAunty●♡•
Sounds like a bunch of opinions/rantings made by a "know it all" stylist.
Some of her info is sound, HOWEVER others I will disregard (namely the comments made on not oiling/conditioning previously relaxed hair).

Additionally, I did not like her tone. I understand her frustration, but she should come with more professionalism in her video.
I guess some people respond well to people that give "advice" with an attitude.. I do not.

I do agree that you should trim (as needed).. and that protein and moisture balance is a must.
 

tamikachu =]

Well-Known Member
i've met this chick. She came into my job (subway) and asked me about my hair while she was ordering. I told her I was transitioning and she started going on about how natural hair is not for her and she didnt feel pretty with it, etc. Then proceeds to drop her business card in my tip jar while telling me that if I ever change my mind about being natural to give her a call. This was about a year ago maybe and she had just started working at the salon next to the store, but the salon is closed down now.
 

Lilmama1011

Well-Known Member
tamikachu =];18987105 said:
i've met this chick. She came into my job (subway) and asked me about my hair while she was ordering. I told her I was transitioning and she started going on about how natural hair is not for her and she didnt feel pretty with it, etc. Then proceeds to drop her business card in my tip jar while telling me that if I ever change my mind about being natural to give her a call. This was about a year ago maybe and she had just started working at the salon next to the store, but the salon is closed down now.

That's her business she didn't feel pretty with it, so your suppose to feel the same? I saw in one of her comments someone asked did she only work with relaxed hair, but her kid's hair is natural but she straightens it. I wonder did she tell her kids the same thing.
 

cynd

Well-Known Member
Sounds like the primary goal of the video was to complain about people not wanting to pay more if it isn't easy peasy for her to do their hair. I didn't really like her attitude.
 

divachyk

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I was unable to go the full 10 minutes. I'm a tangler and was somewhat offended. I would expect my stylist to assist and tend to my hair needs without attitude. I had a stylist tell me she needed to charge more because of my length when in fact, you're only relaxing the new growth. Had she properly and kindly explained it takes her longer to do my hair for this or that reason, thus the rate is higher, I would have accepted it a little better. I'm not salon dependent any more so it's really a non-issue but hearing a portion of this video kind of got me a little bothered. While some of her info is sound, I'm in agreement her tone is not cute for her to be attempting to represent herself/her business.
 

tamikachu =]

Well-Known Member
"Do you love the "creamy crack?". Then I'm your stylist! Healthy, long, and strong hair is my business. If your unhappy with your current stylist please don't hesitate to call!!! Healthy hair is just a phone call away." Her description on her channel.
 

Evolving78

Well-Known Member
I was unable to go the full 10 minutes. I'm a tangler and was somewhat offended. I would expect my stylist to assist and tend to my hair needs without attitude. I had a stylist tell me she needed to charge more because of my length when in fact, you're only relaxing the new growth. Had she properly and kindly explained it takes her longer to do my hair for this or that reason, thus the rate is higher, I would have accepted it a little better. I'm not salon dependent any more so it's really a non-issue but hearing a portion of this video kind of got me a little bothered. While some of her info is sound, I'm in agreement her tone is not cute for her to be attempting to represent herself/her business.

Her delivery needs work. I stopped at the prices. But I do agree with a lot of what she said. So I am going to stretch and let a professional do my touch ups for now on. I don't recall having this much of an issue with detangling. So we will see if what she says is correct over time for my hair.
 

Mande30

New Member
My opinion:

The oil and grease that I put on my prevously relaxed hair may not totally stop the relaxer from processing, but it sure as heck slows it down. (This is why people add oils and conditioner to the relaxer anyway) It gives me enough time and protection if I am moving at the appropriate speed. In addition, it totally protects my hair from the runoff (when rinsing out the relaxer with water and it passes over the entire strand), that is diluted with the water in the first place and only lasts for a brief moment.

In addition, try loading your newgrowth with grease and see how long it takes you to process.

One of the reasons that my hair was so jacked up in the first place is because I used NO protection at all. I had no idea about runoff or anything.
 

ckisland

Well-Known Member
What is up with the stylists being so unprofessional with their youtube vids? :ohwell: I hate it when "regular' people spend the first minute of their video singing, but it's even worse when you're at work and you can't sing well :nono:. She all laid back on the couch, pausing to smack and sip her coffee. If you weren't ready to film this video, maybe you should have waited until you were ready for the day :rolleyes:.
 

grownwomanaz

Love and Harmony
About the tangling and webbing. When I was relaxed, I knew I was in trouble when my hair would do the webbing thing. For me, it meant that I had over processed. I didn't look at the video, but I had a flashback when I saw webbing tis all.
 

sunnieb

Well-Known Member
She actually has a good point about letting go of damaged hair. You can't fix it, cut it.

However, what is her background regarding the scientific side of hair? Because I am a self-relaxer and I always take the time to oil my previously relaxed hair prior to relaxing. Why? I read the following from Sistaslick's article about it:

Step 3: Protect It!

The day of relaxer, pay special attention to the length and ends of your hair. The hair shaft and ends are especially vulnerable to damage from the relaxing process unless you protect them. Applying a light coating of something like olive oil, castor oil, a thick conditioner, grease or vaseline to your scalp and hair past the new growth prevents the rest of your hair from being "re-relaxed" as a result of overlapping and runoff during the final rinsing of the relaxer. Protection for the length and ends of the hair is essential because the short, compact nature of the new growth makes it is virtually impossible to avoid overlap. This "chemical run" and lack of protection for the shaft and ends is one of the many reasons quite a few relaxed ladies have thinner, and thinner ends.


Also remember, that oiling the new growth itself may leave you underprocessed because the relaxer has to penetrate through the layers you have put on. If you want a straighter turnout, be sure that you do not coat your new growth-- only coat your scalp and hair shaft past the new growth. As always, apply protective base (vaseline, oil, grease) to your scalp, tops of ears, and other sensitive areas . The base will give you an extra layer of protection between the relaxer crème and those areas.


We all know Sistaslick's extensive background, so...um, yeah..Imma keep oiling thank you.
 

Evolving78

Well-Known Member
What is up with the stylists being so unprofessional with their youtube vids? :ohwell: I hate it when "regular' people spend the first minute of their video singing, but it's even worse when you're at work and you can't sing well :nono:. She all laid back on the couch, pausing to smack and sip her coffee. If you weren't ready to film this video, maybe you should have waited until you were ready for the day :rolleyes:.

I was turned off from the singing and smacking.
 

Mande30

New Member
What is up with the stylists being so unprofessional with their youtube vids? :ohwell: I hate it when "regular' people spend the first minute of their video singing, but it's even worse when you're at work and you can't sing well :nono:. She all laid back on the couch, pausing to smack and sip her coffee. If you weren't ready to film this video, maybe you should have waited until you were ready for the day :rolleyes:.

Oh, I forgot about the coffee. I wanted to slap it out of her hand. Very rude and disrespectful to her listners. I wanted to stop watching but I wanted to hear what she had to say so that I could respond appropriately.
 

Lilmama1011

Well-Known Member
She actually has a good point about letting go of damaged hair. You can't fix it, cut it.

However, what is her background regarding the scientific side of hair? Because I am a self-relaxer and I always take the time to oil my previously relaxed hair prior to relaxing. Why? I read the following from Sistaslick's article about it:

Step 3: Protect It!

The day of relaxer, pay special attention to the length and ends of your hair. The hair shaft and ends are especially vulnerable to damage from the relaxing process unless you protect them. Applying a light coating of something like olive oil, castor oil, a thick conditioner, grease or vaseline to your scalp and hair past the new growth prevents the rest of your hair from being "re-relaxed" as a result of overlapping and runoff during the final rinsing of the relaxer. Protection for the length and ends of the hair is essential because the short, compact nature of the new growth makes it is virtually impossible to avoid overlap. This "chemical run" and lack of protection for the shaft and ends is one of the many reasons quite a few relaxed ladies have thinner, and thinner ends.

Also remember, that oiling the new growth itself may leave you underprocessed because the relaxer has to penetrate through the layers you have put on. If you want a straighter turnout, be sure that you do not coat your new growth-- only coat your scalp and hair shaft past the new growth. As always, apply protective base (vaseline, oil, grease) to your scalp, tops of ears, and other sensitive areas . The base will give you an extra layer of protection between the relaxer crème and those areas.

We all know Sistaslick's extensive background, so...um, yeah..Imma keep oiling thank you.

I will continue to coat my hair with Vaseline or oil, I feel it works as well. The thing is i never got the fact of oiling the scalp and not getting none on the new growth. That seems impossible for me
 
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