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Re: Christian Author Rob Bell on Oprah "There is No Hell"
It really seems so...
It really seems so...
Poohbear
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Re: Christian Author Rob Bell on Oprah "There is No Hell"
This may not matter too much but I see that this video was posted 2 weeks before the article that said he believes in Hell now.
This may not matter too much but I see that this video was posted 2 weeks before the article that said he believes in Hell now.
blazingthru
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Re: Christian Author Rob Bell on Oprah "There is No Hell"
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divya
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Re: Christian Author Rob Bell on Oprah "There is No Hell"
Iwanthealthyhair67
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It appears that what he is stating is that he believes that hell exists both presently and after death. He is not saying that he "now-all of a sudden" believes in hell. "Now" in the context of his statement means "in the present."
Iwanthealthyhair67
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It appears that what he is stating is that he believes that hell exists both presently and after death. He is not saying that he "now-all of a sudden" believes in hell. "Now" in the context of his statement means "in the present."
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Iwanthealthyhair67
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Re: Christian Author Rob Bell on Oprah "There is No Hell"
yes, I noticed that...
This may not matter too much but I see that this video was posted 2 weeks before the article that said he believes in Hell now.
yes, I noticed that...
Iwanthealthyhair67
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Re: Christian Author Rob Bell on Oprah "There is No Hell"
Imo people wouldn't question is stance if he were concise from the beginning, he still doesn't make sense ...to be unclear at this stage in the game is disconcerting to me and obviously to many others...
Imo people wouldn't question is stance if he were concise from the beginning, he still doesn't make sense ...to be unclear at this stage in the game is disconcerting to me and obviously to many others...
Re: Christian Author Rob Bell on Oprah "There is No Hell"
How long will he 'halt' between two opinions...?
If God be God, serve God... if Baal be god, serve Baal... he just needs to make up his mind.
If he has one.... that Oprah doesn't 'own'.
How long will he 'halt' between two opinions...?
If God be God, serve God... if Baal be god, serve Baal... he just needs to make up his mind.
If he has one.... that Oprah doesn't 'own'.
Iwanthealthyhair67
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everything that sounds good and looks good ain't always good
for the half of the world that never heard of him before Oprah has given him a voice (and an outlet increase in the sales of his book) to reach those people, end result more people swept into strong delusion, she lacks discernment because there is no HS and has yoked herself up with all kinds of people who say they've come in the name of the Lord but not always the Son and just maybe sometimes the HG.
for the half of the world that never heard of him before Oprah has given him a voice (and an outlet increase in the sales of his book) to reach those people, end result more people swept into strong delusion, she lacks discernment because there is no HS and has yoked herself up with all kinds of people who say they've come in the name of the Lord but not always the Son and just maybe sometimes the HG.
Laela
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Excellent point...
well, for what it's worth..not believing in hell doesn't make it not exist. There is only one way to find out.
well, for what it's worth..not believing in hell doesn't make it not exist. There is only one way to find out.
divya
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Re: Christian Author Rob Bell on Oprah "There is No Hell"
There is a difference between questioning Bell's stance and making an assumption about his stance on the issue which was is done in this article and many others. It appears that Bell may be questioning the common beliefs and searching for answers. And as Christians, we should always be seeking and searching, and sometimes we come to a different understanding after years of holding particular beliefs on an issue. My prayers are with him, Oprah and all those who may be seeking greater understanding...
There is a difference between questioning Bell's stance and making an assumption about his stance on the issue which was is done in this article and many others. It appears that Bell may be questioning the common beliefs and searching for answers. And as Christians, we should always be seeking and searching, and sometimes we come to a different understanding after years of holding particular beliefs on an issue. My prayers are with him, Oprah and all those who may be seeking greater understanding...
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Iwanthealthyhair67
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Everyone has questions but as a seasoned Christian a Pastor no less shouldn't be questioning the most elementary of things is there a hell or not will the persons that go to hell eventually get absolution or not the bible isn't vague on these points.
Like this one for example, this is unacceptable ...this man leads people, great is his responsibility.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-q0iDaW6BnE
Like this one for example, this is unacceptable ...this man leads people, great is his responsibility.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-q0iDaW6BnE
divya
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Just cannot agree. The Holy Spirit knows why certain things are revealed at certain times. Entire churches, led by their pastors, have made major changes due to searching the Scriptures. Again, he does state that he believes in hell, though without reading his book, I cannot definitively say whether or not I agree with what he advocates, if anything at this time. It is true that his responsibility is great. So he is not convicted on a particular matter, he should not teach it.
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Iwanthealthyhair67
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We don't agree, it makes little sense for me to go further.
ImperfectlyPerfect
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If he is not convicted on the basics of Christianity or that Gods word is true he should not be a pastor. If he is of like mind with Oprah he should not be a pastor and he is not a Christian. This whole new age/spiritualism/love religion is contrary to the word of God and is being used by the enemy to deceive people and lead them to hell in this life and the one to follow. Oprah is not deceived she is a deceiver. I used to watch her regularly and bought into her "wisdom", until I read some of the books she advertised, (Womem, Food and God, A New Earth, and the Power of Now and the Secret) these books are so blatantly blasphemous, I being of the world at the time, could not even finish them or continue to support Oprah. Pastors should be shinning the light of truth on her darkness and deciet.
Colossians 2:8
See to it that no one takes you captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy which depends on human tradition and elemental spiritual forces of this world rather than on Christ
Oh my goodness gracious... This is pure and total heresy.
Truth:
God did not create humans to be homosexuals. Therefore, He did not create homosexuals.
THIS is why these Pastors are 'denying' the existence of hell to validate homosexuality.
Warning: Any pastor who hooks up with Oprah...beware.
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blazingthru
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well this sounded so interesting at first but after listening to him talk, I was done. I am in agreement with you Shimmie, God did not create homesexuals, they were born on this earth like everyone else in to a world of sin, following after their own wicked ways, not to say that they are the only ones, I had my walk on the dark side for years as all of us at one point or another have. But that stuff he was speaking upset me, I could not listen to all of what he was saying. So, so far its a wash.
blazingthru... I've had my walk on the dark side as well, but 'we' could not stay there.
I have to quote ImperfectlyPerfect 's post above when she shares this truth:
This whole new age/spiritualism/love religion is contrary to the word of God and is being used by the enemy to deceive people and lead them to hell in this life and the one to follow.
Oprah is not deceived she is a deceiver.
Bob Bell is doing just that...using new age/spiritualism/love religion, all of which is indeed contrary to God's Word. Listening to him, I am wondering if he is gay... (*shrugs*...not judging, just wondered if he was). He was so 'fixed upon' 'smoothing the path' and the platform for gay lifestyle acceptance and not gay repentance.
People are looking for soft cotton padded 'paddles' when God says' the rod of correction and the two-edged sword is what's required. God is only protecting people from going to hell which is indeed real.
divya
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Fair enough.
ETA: I just watched the video that you posted and strongly disagree with his stance on homosexuality. However, at the same time, I disagree with the attempt of this article and others to state that Bell does not believe in hell.
What do you deem to be the basics of Christianity that anyone who is a Christian should agree upon?
As for Oprah, I have never been regular viewer or supporter of her show nor a reader of material that she has advertised. So it is not for me to label her in any manner, but those who followed her for some time likely feel differently. However, my hope is that she find the truth.
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