Single Christian Women's Support - THE REMIX!

kanozas

se ven las caras pero nunca el corazón
Lucia a lot of minorities who are catholic are converts and are the sole catholics in their families. As for people living singly, you mention WWII. It's been ages since then and it's the norm. Please don't make the mistake in assuming most people want to sleep around. They are taking on adult responsibility and growing. It's not wrong to be on your own - not unbiblical. Many things we do today don't mimick the cultural time of scripture. It was a different era and people, for most.
 

Lucia

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Lucia a lot of minorities who are catholic are converts and are the sole catholics in their families. As for people living singly, you mention WWII. It's been ages since then and it's the norm. Please don't make the mistake in assuming most people want to sleep around. They are taking on adult responsibility and growing. It's not wrong to be on your own - not unbiblical. Many things we do today don't mimick the cultural time of scripture. It was a different era and people, for most.

kanozas
@Belle Du Jour

Thanks for the pov I didn't think of that at first of someone being the sole convert until previous poster mentioned that her family does not have the same belief or faith. Now for the sleeping around I wasn't accusing or inferring that's why she's on her own.

I stated work and school first I was putting that out there as in general in the secular world that's one big reason among some others that people want to be on their own.

Being on your own is not wrong in and of itself but if you have other positive options then it's something to think about.
Belle Du Jour hope I didn't offend.

Romans 2:12 New Living Translation Don't copy the behavior and customs of this world, but let God transform you into a new person by changing the way you think. Then you will learn to know God's will for you, which is good and pleasing and perfect. http://www.truewoman.com/?id=1766
 
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kanozas

se ven las caras pero nunca el corazón
Hi Lucia. I know what you're saying and we do have admonition but I don't think G-d is talking about good customs of the world. It's largely up to your culture, church and individual interpretation, I realize. We catholics have our Magisterium and there's nothing in it that states we have to live with our parents to avoid the look of sin. If people are going to think ill of someone, they are going to do it no matter what. That's why I think it's more cultural. It's not much of an issue in mine.
 

Belle Du Jour

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http://theveilofchastity.com/2015/03/09/i-am-just-an-average-girl/

. . .In order to give yourself this same permission, you have to believe in the*Supernatural*realm.* It is in this realm where God fulfills His plan.* If your vocation was left simply in the natural realm, then I would advise you to do all you can to capture your man before some other girl gets him.* Help him, contact him first, call him, email him, text him and chase him.* Be the doormat.

But that is not how God designed us women.* He designed us to be the receivers and the responders.* He designed men to be the initiators and the pursuers.* Therefore, wait for God to infuse Supernatural grace into your man so that*he will not need your help.* Of course, this can only happen within the Supernatural realm of God’s will.* So, stay in His will.* Do not stray from His path.
 

Maracujá

November 2020 --> 14 years natural!!!
^^^^Thank you for posting this. I'm currently struggling with this, there is a man interested in me, my mom says he is Christian yet...he wants me to contact him first via the phone. I feel all kinds of ways about this. :ohwell:
 

kanozas

se ven las caras pero nunca el corazón
^^You want him to pursue you. I get it. I'm not against modern relationships at all but there's just this vein of men out there who are too interested in what money, prestige, resources etc. she can bring to him. That's not my kinda guy. Men are punking out these days.
 

GodsPromises

The Credit Countess
Haddasah I know this is an old thread but I belong to a free christian dating site www.blackchristiandatingforfree.com. I have met a few nice men from this site and I am now dating one from there now.

Has anyone done Christian online dating? And if so, which sites? Two of my friends met someone through an online dating site and are now engaged.
 

Lucia

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^^^^Thank you for posting this. I'm currently struggling with this, there is a man interested in me, my mom says he is Christian yet...he wants me to contact him first via the phone. I feel all kinds of ways about this. :ohwell:

Maracujá

I agree 1000%.

As a Christian man no heck as a gentleman with some manners he should make the first move this is just all kinds of lazy. I may be wrong but it really rubs me the wrong way when I have to do all the initial effort like he couldn't even be bothered.

A family member tried to get me to meet a eligible bachelor and his first contact was some lame text like hey call me if you you want maybe we can talk. I was totally open and still am to meeting someone and giving them a chance if he had called and I liked his voice or personality I would have met up for lunch or coffee and see how things went.

But since that didn't happen I mean you have my number and you can't even bother to pick up the phone and call I mean I was so beyond and they talked him up so much how he's working responsible good man from a decent family etc. I thought that was kind of rude and showed he was in no way interested in talking to me at all so why should I chase him and knock myself out. He's the man if he's actually interested then he needs to get off his butt and do something. I don't think 1 phone call is too much to ask.
:lol: he did see a picture of me months later and then asked who's that and they said oh it's that girl we gave you her number months ago yada yada and I guess by the reaction he gave them and knowing he hadn't tried at all he already knew he had messed up so :ohwell:
 
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Maracujá

November 2020 --> 14 years natural!!!
Maracujá

I agree 1000%.

As a Christian man no heck as a gentleman with some manners he should make the first move this is just all kinds of lazy. I may be wrong but it really rubs me the wrong way when I have to do all the initial effort like he couldn't even be bothered.

A family member tried to get me to meet a eligible bachelor and his first contact was some lame text like hey call me if you you want maybe we can talk. I was totally open and still am to meeting someone and giving them a chance if he had called and I liked his voice or personality I would have met up for lunch or coffee and see how things went.

But since that didn't happen I mean you have my number and you can't even bother to pick up the phone and call I mean I was so beyond and they talked him up so much how he's working responsible good man from a decent family etc. I thought that was kind of rude and showed he was in no way interested in talking to me at all so why should I chase him and knock myself out. He's the man if he's actually interested then he needs to get off his butt and do something. I don't think 1 phone call is too much to ask.
:lol: he did see a picture of me months later and then asked who's that and they said oh it's that girl we gave you her number months ago yada yada and I guess by the reaction he gave them and knowing he hadn't tried at all he already knew he had messed up so :ohwell:

I totally understand this and lol at him seeing a photo of you and having regrets, newsflash: you could've just called, it really doesn't hurt to try (I'm talking about him). I'm in the same boat right now and thoughts like: you may be missing out keep popping up in my head. But can you imagine years down the line this being the story of how we got together? "Oh, he asked me to call him and I did" :ohwell:

It's so bizarre, this guy consistently helps my mom and sisters with things that need to get done around the house, how hard can it be for him to ask my number to them? Plus, I've prayed about it and I feel no peace about it. Although desperate feelings are setting in, I've got to continue to be strong. Thanks for sharing your story btw.
 

Lucia

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I totally understand this and lol at him seeing a photo of you and having regrets, newsflash: you could've just called, it really doesn't hurt to try (I'm talking about him). I'm in the same boat right now and thoughts like: you may be missing out keep popping up in my head. But can you imagine years down the line this being the story of how we got together? "Oh, he asked me to call him and I did" :ohwell: It's so bizarre, this guy consistently helps my mom and sisters with things that need to get done around the house, how hard can it be for him to ask my number to them? Plus, I've prayed about it and I feel no peace about it. Although desperate feelings are setting in, I've got to continue to be strong. Thanks for sharing your story btw.

Maracujá

That is kind of weird though even if you explain it away as him being "shy" he's still in your circle and if he's interested he should at the least meet you half way.
Have you even met him in person yet? I mean if when he sees you does he even speak ?
Even if he runs into you while doing said errands he could start up a friendly convo.

I'm adding something to my prayers for my future husband Lord give him courage and motivation to step up and be proactive in all things especially pursuit of his future wife.
 

Lucia

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2week prayer series

http://alovelycalling.com/prayers-fo...a-future-wife/

DAY 3

Dear God, help me to put my trust in you and wait for you to bring my future husband to me in your perfect timing. Help me not to be anxious or worried about when that time will be but to rest and wait on you. Thank you that you have had this man picked out for me before I was even born. Thank you for making him for me. Keep my heart pure and safe in your care so that I will be ready to marry him whenever you choose to bring him along. I love you Jesus. Thank you. Amen
 

Maracujá

November 2020 --> 14 years natural!!!
Maracujá

That is kind of weird though even if you explain it away as him being "shy" he's still in your circle and if he's interested he should at the least meet you half way.
Have you even met him in person yet? I mean if when he sees you does he even speak ?
Even if he runs into you while doing said errands he could start up a friendly convo.

I'm adding something to my prayers for my future husband Lord give him courage and motivation to step up and be proactive in all things especially pursuit of his future wife.

Lucia: I have met him in person and we do speak when we meet, he compliments me and we have nice chats but...he never asks me my number or anything.
 

Divine.

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Lucia: I have met him in person and we do speak when we meet, he compliments me and we have nice chats but...he never asks me my number or anything.

I know it may sound outlandish, but some men do get intimidated when approaching women. The men at my church are exactly like that. They will look all day but never approach you. And if and when they do talk to you, it never leads to anything but a friendly convo.

Maybe he's going through the same process as you. He could be praying about approaching you and is waiting until he gets that peace from God. Who knows! Men don't take hints that well either. It could be written on your face you want him to ask for your number, but he still won't see it :lol:

Be patient. God will move him at the right time.
 

Kacie

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"Don’t get married because you think he or she is “the one.” Trust me, they’re not. There’s no such thing! But do get married when you see who God is making somebody to be, and it lights you up. When you want to be a part of that story of transformation. That journey to the future. when you are well aware of it will be a long and bumpy ride, but you don’t want to miss one mile. Because you believe in God’s calling on them, and you want in."

- Loveology by John Mark Comer, lead pastor of A Jesus Church in Portland, OR
 

Maracujá

November 2020 --> 14 years natural!!!
For us ladies waiting to be found:

It is God's privilege to conceal things and the king's privilege to discover them.(Proverbs 25:2)
 

Belle Du Jour

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For us ladies waiting to be found:

It is God's privilege to conceal things and the king's privilege to discover them.(Proverbs 25:2)

YES!!! I love this verse and it comes to me from time to time when I'm wondering why I haven't been "chosen." In the movie Esther, she quotes this scripture to the King right before he chooses her.

It's a reminder that we are waiting for KINGS! Although it seems that there aren't a lot around :look: the right one will step up when it's time.
 

Maracujá

November 2020 --> 14 years natural!!!
Here is a second of the questions from the PCRT Q&A that we did not get to during the conference:

Why so many singles? Why does it seem that God withholds marriage for so many when he clearly upholds it, encourages it, desires it, etc.? Why are there so many singles who want marriage but don't seem to find it?

It is true that a great many adult Christians, many in their twenties and thirties, are frustrated by not finding a marriage partner. This is of course a very sensitive subject, since so many single Christians feel pain and remorse in this area. But there are some general answers. Let me offer four categories of responses:

1. Immaturity and Sin among Men: I do think the first answer to be given is that there is a general immaturity and sin that hinders marriage in the church. I am referring primarily, though not exclusively, to young adult Christian men. It is well documented that men in our society are maturing later in life -- often only in their mid to late 30's. As such, they pull back from the responsibility involved in serious dating and marriage. This is a great shame, since this immaturity is hindering their own growth as men and is harming women. In almost every case, such men are engaging in sexual sin, usually involving pornography, to serve their otherwise unattended sexual desires. The result is that a great many Christian women desire to marry but do not find a suitable match in the church. This is a cause for many Christian to repent and for churches to direct attention on the Christian maturity of young men. I realize that saying this will not make me popular with a great many young men, but it remains widely true and needs to be said. If you are an unmarried adult man, who does not have the gift of singleness (i.e. no or little sex drive), then you should consider the priorities and the trajectory of your life, along with the needs of godly women for husbands. A related point is that many men show immaturity in their attractions, constantly neglecting wonderful women who might be interested for more outwardly attractive or younger women who will not be. A perusal of the book of Proverbs will provide excellent counsel in this area, as with male maturity in general.

2. The Widespread Brokenness of our Society. Another side to this coin is that so many people today come from painful situations that have left them deeply wounded and broken. Many men have not had role models and therefore lack confidence in themselves as male leaders. Many women (and men) have suffered sexual molestation or other forms of abuse and thus are inhibited by fear, anger, and pain. These are far more prevalent problems than most Christians realize. So Christians need to be befriending singles in order to get to know them as people and to minister to their lives. Adult singleness is often terribly lonely, so married believers need to befriend them and churches will often need to arrange fellowship ministries for single adults.

3. Worldly Demands & Priorities among Christians. Some of the problem stems from the structure of contemporary society. Christians do not live around family members, who often play a role in helping couples to meet and grow together. Demanding work lives socially isolate us and leave little energy for actual living. A large part of the high rates of singleness results from the fact that many adults have placed their priorities elsewhere. They spent their 20's pursuing professional credentials rather than relationships. That is fine and should not be condemned. But there is a reality that goes with it: where you place your attention and efforts will often be where you have results. Thus, we have rich careers but poor relationships -- it reflects the choices that we made. I have found this to be especially challenging to professional women. Society has pressed on women the expectation that they match the career attainments of their male peers. But does this leave room for being a wife and mother? I have heard many attractive and godly women who were business executives lament that the Christian men they know tend to be romantically involved with nurses and school-teachers. The reason for this is that these men are seeking wives who are more likely to embrace a feminine role in relationships. Many corporate women have taken on a masculine demeanor, as a simple necessity of success in the workplace. None of these things involves sin, per se, but this situation also does not promote marriage. Hence, our priorities are shaping our results. We have careers and money, but not love.

4. God's Sovereign Will. It is fine to speak in broad categories, but actual Christians have personal stories that are not broad but specific. Their stories involve opportunities, sorrows, mistakes, and learning experiences. Each single should trust God to provide for his or her needs, remembering that God's great provision is the gift of his own love through Jesus Christ. We are all in a marital relationship as the Bride of Christ! But Christians who desire marriage and sorrow in singleness should prayerfully reflect on their maturity and character, together with the priorities revealed in their lives, and then prayerfully seek the Lord's grace in providing exactly what his wisdom declares that we need.

P.S. My wife and I have written a dating book that is directed at helping adult Christians who are seeking relationships that will lead to marriage: Holding Hands, Holding Hearts: Recovering a Biblical View of Christian Dating. It may be an aid and blessing to those wrestling in this area.
- See more at: http://www.reformation21.org/blog/2015/03/pcrt-qa-why-so-many-singles.php#sthash.YZQLvWiU.dpuf

What is your take on this ladies?
 

Lucia

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What is your take on this ladies?

@Maracujá

I have to agree, agree and agree! on all of it. #3 We are sometimes imitating the Secular world too much IMO.
#1 It's just too easy for men to get their "satisfaction" without out having to qualify an emotional, spiritual or mental value to anything they do. They just get theirs and KIM.
Even secular psychologists and sociologists are complaining about the immaturity of grown men and their lack of commitment and taking on any sort of manly or husbandly duties you know it's wide spread. Christian men just like men who don't practice or never did have a rolodex of women on retainer. They can call anytime and have what they want when they want and how they want it and NONE of these women even mentions having a real relationship. I won't even start on internet porn.
Because most of the time these men will bounce, and for many it's better to have a fraction of a man than no man at all. I'm not saying all men are bad and all women are saints, but we need to address this early and go hard. But if a man thinks i'm talking about him? then I AM! I'm not even going to apologize. (looks right and left and drops mic)
 
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Maracujá

November 2020 --> 14 years natural!!!
@Lucia thank you for your take on it. I wanted to disagree so bad but it just makes so much sense, as sad as it may be.

Ladies, I wanted to recommend a book by a fellow singlista named Nancy McCulley. She wrote a book in collaboration with Nora Shank and quite frankly I don't think I've ever read a book that fast, it took me like a week. It was briljant! The title is 'The Measure of Success: Uncovering the Biblical Perspective on Women, Work, and the Home' and it can be purchased on Amazon.com. Two things I like about this book: she gives a thorough yet easy to understand history of women in relation to work. At one point she even talks about how even in the 1980s, single women in their thirties who had degrees and careers were being told that they had a greater chance of dying during a terrorist attack then getting married. Sounds familiar? The second thing I liked about the book is that towards the end they talk about the different seasons in a woman's life: the single years, the building a family years, the career years and then the 'open nest' years. It's simple yet poignant imo. So check it out ladies!
 

Lucia

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Divorce rates are bogus
They count widows and 1st divorces but of the widow or divorcee gets remarried they don't count that. They also don't count women/man couples who have stayed married all their lives in any stats ever. So they're just taking divorce rates from divorced people and not factoring in longtime married couples so their percentage has always been way off. Also divorce is in decline it peaked it the 70-80s I saw that in another article I think

http://calvarychapel.com/resources/article/view/stop-quoting-bad-divorce-stats/

Porn induced erectile dysfunction and infertility

http://www.womenofgrace.com/blog/?p=17603

The Demise of guys
Zimbardo

http://www.ted.com/talks/zimchallenge?language=en#t-260501
 
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Maracujá

November 2020 --> 14 years natural!!!
Being single is not for the faint of heart, but doing it alongside God and how He guides you is truly worth it. Small example: about three weeks ago I started a new job, when it came time for me and two other ladies (one in her early thirties and one in her early twenties) to sign our contracts, certain 'problems' arose. The first lady started explaining that although she is not married, she does live with the father of her children, so she asked the lady from the temp agency: should I fill in that I'm a married woman on my contract? The lady responded: Well no, you're not married. Are you legally living together? (this is possible where I live). She again responded with: no. Well then, said the lady from the temp agency, you just fill in your marital status as single/unwed. At that moment you could tell on the woman's face that she was just so so ashamed. For me on the other hand it was so easy to just fill in: single/unwed. I felt no qualms about it whatsoever and was not confused about it either. All I'm saying is: save yourself the embarassment. We may think God doesn't care about this but He absolutely does. In my 2014 devotional book I read that one of the reasons why God delayed Sarah's pregnancy is because she got abducted at least twice (correct me if I'm wrong) and had she gotten pregnant around that time, people would've wondered if the baby was actually Abraham's. God cares about every.single.aspect.of.our.lives!
 
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