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Guinan · Jun 27, 2016

I fingered detangled with water and olive oil. Surprisingly my hair feels great!

I'm slowly starting to get back into the FULL MHM. Before I was only doing the DC. Tomorrow, I plan on doing MHM. Since I'm slowly starting back, I think I will MHM once a week and bun and then slowly increase.

Guinan · Jun 27, 2016

Oh, I forgot to mention that I FINALLY purchased the Kinky custard gel. I cant want to try it out. I forgot to get the leave-in and from what I gathered from utube the gel works better with the leave-in. I'm thinking of just using my diluted tressume as my leave-in.

Have any of yall used this custard gel without using the leave-in?

GGsKin · Jun 27, 2016

pelohello said:
Oh, I forgot to mention that I FINALLY purchased the Kinky custard gel. I cant want to try it out. I forgot to get the leave-in and from what I gathered from utube the gel works better with the leave-in. I'm thinking of just using my diluted tressume as my leave-in.

Have any of yall used this custard gel without using the leave-in?

@pelohello I regularly use this without a leave-in. It is by far, my favourite gel. I don't get alot of choice in the matter :look:

Guinan · Jun 29, 2016

I finished MHM today :toocool:

. My hair looks and feels AMAZING!!!!!! After I rinsed out the clay, my curls clumped nicely. I still need to do MHM more often to reach max hydration though. Today I rinsed out the DC while in the shower and then applied my clay. I left the clay in for about 5mins.

Why did I stop doing MHM

Even if I cant do the full DC overnight, I will at least do the modified version.

cocoma · Jun 30, 2016

I have done the MHM 4 times and I am hooked! I never wore a wash and go before. Probably because I was afraid of the gel. But I have received many compliments from other naturals and was even called someones hair crush! I never expected that. So this will be my summer staple since it is so hot and humid here and it gives me a much needed break from bunning. I have been able to go 4 days so far with my wash and go and plan to only do the MHM once or twice a week max.

sharifeh · Jul 4, 2016

would love to try this- it's so intimidating though

BlackMasterPiece · Jul 9, 2016

I thought I bought everything to do the full MHM but then realized I forgot the yogurt :cry3:

ETA: Ladies what are your recs for high porosity hair in terms of recipes for the clay wash, DC leave in and gel? TIA!!!

Guinan · Jul 11, 2016

Clay washed my hair today and right now I'm Dcing overnight. In my clay wash I added ACV. I think next time I will add some peppermint oil to the mixture. My curls came out really soft and defined.

Tomorrow I plan on wearing a wng.

Guinan · Jul 11, 2016

BlackMasterPiece said:
I thought I bought everything to do the full MHM but then realized I forgot the yogurt

ETA: Ladies what are your recs for high porosity hair in terms of recipes for the clay wash, DC leave in and gel? TIA!!!

Honestly, I don't know. Have you checked out the MHM website? Hopefully, the other ladies will be able to chime in who have high porosity hair. I think it's the same process for all porosity levels. You kind of have to play around with MHM and find out what works best for your hair.

faithVA · Jul 11, 2016

BlackMasterPiece said:
I thought I bought everything to do the full MHM but then realized I forgot the yogurt

ETA: Ladies what are your recs for high porosity hair in terms of recipes for the clay wash, DC leave in and gel? TIA!!!

Dubaidee has recipes for the different porosity types. Check out her website.

BlackMasterPiece · Jul 11, 2016

pelohello said:
Honestly, I don't know. Have you checked out the MHM website? Hopefully, the other ladies will be able to chime in who have high porosity hair. I think it's the same process for all porosity levels. You kind of have to play around with MHM and find out what works best for your hair.

faithVA said:
Dubaidee has recipes for the different porosity types. Check out her website.

Thanks so much for responding ladies, I was convinced I was high porosity due to the description on dubaidees blog I use heat regularly and my hair responds well to protein, but I just clarified and did the water test and it really confused me. First my hair sat on the surface of the water I wasn't sure that was accurate because I felt like maybe my coily texture was causing it not to be submerged well so i kinda tapped it so it would be submerged in the water, it immediately sank, then a few minutes later I saw it was floating again near the surface and it remained near the surface thereafter, what does that mean?

I'm kinda bummed now because I studied dubaidee's blog and made all the mixtures based on her HiPo suggestions and now I'm wondering if it was all for naught :ohwell:

I just applied the cherry lola treatment and I couldn't get my fingers through my hair very much at all, there was little to no slip, *sigh* I omitted the vinegar in the cherry lola and now I'm wondering if thats making a difference in the slip? idk :sad:

faithVA · Jul 11, 2016

BlackMasterPiece said:
Thanks so much for responding ladies, I was convinced I was high porosity due to the description on dubaidees blog I use heat regularly and my hair responds well to protein, but I just clarified and did the water test and it really confused me. First my hair sat on the surface of the water I wasn't sure that was accurate because I felt like maybe my coily texture was causing it not to be submerged well so i kinda tapped it so it would be submerged in the water, it immediately sank, then a few minutes later I saw it was floating again near the surface and it remained near the surface thereafter, what does that mean?

I'm kinda bummed now because I studied dubaidee's blog and made all the mixtures based on her HiPo suggestions and now I'm wondering if it was all for naught

I just applied the cherry lola treatment and I couldn't get my fingers through my hair very much at all, there was little to no slip, *sigh* I omitted the vinegar in the cherry lola and now I'm wondering if thats making a difference in the slip? idk

Why did you omit the vinegar? The pH of your mix could be way off.

I dont know that the water test is accurate so I have no help for that.

faithVA · Jul 11, 2016

BlackMasterPiece said:
Thanks so much for responding ladies, I was convinced I was high porosity due to the description on dubaidees blog I use heat regularly and my hair responds well to protein, but I just clarified and did the water test and it really confused me. First my hair sat on the surface of the water I wasn't sure that was accurate because I felt like maybe my coily texture was causing it not to be submerged well so i kinda tapped it so it would be submerged in the water, it immediately sank, then a few minutes later I saw it was floating again near the surface and it remained near the surface thereafter, what does that mean?

I'm kinda bummed now because I studied dubaidee's blog and made all the mixtures based on her HiPo suggestions and now I'm wondering if it was all for naught

I just applied the cherry lola treatment and I couldn't get my fingers through my hair very much at all, there was little to no slip, *sigh* I omitted the vinegar in the cherry lola and now I'm wondering if thats making a difference in the slip? idk

You are doing the cherry Lola and not the cherry Lola Carmel treatment?

BlackMasterPiece · Jul 11, 2016

faithVA said:
Why did you omit the vinegar? The pH of your mix could be way off.

I dont know that the water test is accurate so I have no help for that.

I saw that dubaidee put it as optional on her recipes so I thought it was fine to skip it, guess I was wrong, I still have some frozen, maybe I'll thaw it next time I try this and add the vinegar to that one.

faithVA said:
You are doing the cherry Lola and not the cherry Lola Carmel treatment?

I just said cherry lola to save key strokes lol I'm doing the cherry lola caramel treatment well kinda, minus the vinegar :ohwell:

Gonna rinse out this failed DC and try to figure something out with my hair

Honey Bee · Jul 11, 2016

BlackMasterPiece said:
I saw that dubaidee put it as optional on her recipes so I thought it was fine to skip it, guess I was wrong, I still have some frozen, maybe I'll thaw it next time I try this and add the vinegar to that one.

I just said cherry lola to save key strokes lol I'm doing the cherry lola caramel treatment well kinda, minus the vinegar

Gonna rinse out this failed DC and try to figure something out with my hair

I think I'm hi po, now approaching 'normal' thanks to MHM, I think. Anyway, it's been a while (still in crochets), but I have posts all through this thread.

As I recall, my general rules of thumb were...

1. minimal baking soda, the only time I used it was in the Cherry Lola treatment. otherwise, ACV+ water or shampoo (when needed) for step one.
2. I'm not particular here :look:

, been using up my Wen stash for literally years. :lol:

3. clay recipe: clay, water, aloe vera juice or gel, ACV (a 'dollop' of glycerin and more aloe vera stuff than water or about equal amounts). if you need more slip, don't use oil, please! (i know that's the natural girl's first response, lol) use something that dissolves in water, ie, herbs like marshmallow root powder or slippery elm powder (i'm sure there are others) so it rinses out with the clay. you want to make it kinda on the thick side (but not too thick to rinse out) while you're less hydrated. as you progress, it can be more liquidy.
4. diluted KCKT (again, as your hair gets more hydrated, you can dilute more) + wetline xtreme gel

My trick for shrinkage: let it dry about 60-70%, throw in some huge loose bantu knots (like, 3-4 for that whole head of hair you got, I have to use more cuz my hair's still short), take down when it's about 80% dry. gently massage roots to loosen it up/ make it fall right, shake.

BlackMasterPiece · Jul 12, 2016

Honey Bee said:
I think I'm hi po, now approaching 'normal' thanks to MHM, I think. Anyway, it's been a while (still in crochets), but I have posts all through this thread.

As I recall, my general rules of thumb were...

1. minimal baking soda, the only time I used it was in the Cherry Lola treatment. otherwise, ACV+ water or shampoo (when needed) for step one.
2. I'm not particular here , been using up my Wen stash for literally years.
3. clay recipe: clay, water, aloe vera juice or gel, ACV (a 'dollop' of glycerin and more aloe vera stuff than water or about equal amounts). if you need more slip, don't use oil, please! (i know that's the natural girl's first response, lol) use something that dissolves in water, ie, herbs like marshmallow root powder or slippery elm powder (i'm sure there are others) so it rinses out with the clay. you want to make it kinda on the thick side (but not too thick to rinse out) while you're less hydrated. as you progress, it can be more liquidy.
4. diluted KCKT (again, as your hair gets more hydrated, you can dilute more) + wetline xtreme gel

My trick for shrinkage: let it dry about 60-70%, throw in some huge loose bantu knots (like, 3-4 for that whole head of hair you got, I have to use more cuz my hair's still short), take down when it's about 80% dry. gently massage roots to loosen it up/ make it fall right, shake.

Thanks so much for the insights! :grin:

I'll be referencing this when I give this another go, love the not being particular and minimal baking soda, I think I'll be trying ACV + water next time as step 1 :scratchchin:

yes I have a shopping cart full of herbs on mountainroseherbs with the marshmallow irish moss etc I need to order it lol

faithVA · Jul 12, 2016

BlackMasterPiece said:
I saw that dubaidee put it as optional on her recipes so I thought it was fine to skip it, guess I was wrong, I still have some frozen, maybe I'll thaw it next time I try this and add the vinegar to that one.

I just said cherry lola to save key strokes lol I'm doing the cherry lola caramel treatment well kinda, minus the vinegar

Gonna rinse out this failed DC and try to figure something out with my hair

The vinegar should be optional with the clay but with the cherry Lola it's best to stick with the recipe unless you are using pH strips. Without the vinegar that mix is to alkaline which is probably why you didn't get the expected results.

Guinan · Jul 12, 2016

My wng came out perfectly!!! I was alittle nervous b/c I was attempting to do bangs. Surprisingly it looks really cute. My hair feels soft and has ton of movement!! Usually my hair dries very hard and crunchy due to the gel; but I was watching some utube videos and came across naturallyneicy and I saw that she used olive oil prior to putting the gel on the hair. It worked really great.

I also watched a video from nap85 and saw how she made some mango butter. I decided to try to make something similar but with less oils and with shea butter. Now it is chilling in the fridge. I just have to blend until it's smooth. I used alittle this morning and it was really nice on my hair. It gave me nice shine and softness. We'll see how it works once I blend it together.

faithVA · Jul 12, 2016

pelohello said:
My wng came out perfectly!!! I was alittle nervous b/c I was attempting to do bangs. Surprisingly it looks really cute. My hair feels soft and has ton of movement!! Usually my hair dries very hard and crunchy due to the gel; but I was watching some utube videos and came across naturallyneicy and I saw that she used olive oil prior to putting the gel on the hair. It worked really great.

I also watched a video from nap85 and saw how she made some mango butter. I decided to try to make something similar but with less oils and with shea butter. Now it is chilling in the fridge. I just have to blend until it's smooth. I used alittle this morning and it was really nice on my hair. It gave me nice shine and softness. We'll see how it works once I blend it together.

Where are the pictures? We want to see the cute WNG :yep:

SheWalks · Jul 12, 2016

I'm hoping to officially start this method next week. I bought some rhassoul clay that I've been experimenting with currently sitting with a concoction of rhassoul,water, coconut milk, honey, cocoa, slippery elm and citric acid in my hair atm. Clay seems to work better than any deep conditioner I've ever tried, and gel will keep my hair soft and moisturized for days, loc and things like that never work for me.

Anyone know how long butters & bars usually take to ship out? I'm running out of rhassoul and I don't want to buy another on the ground at $18 a pop.

Bajanmum · Jul 13, 2016

Hi ladies.
I've read through the majority of the thread and the mhm website, and after receiving my kaolin order in the post I finally did my day 1 yesterday incl. the clct.

I'm so pleased with results. The back of my hair was nicely defined the front needs work but I'm deep conditioning now for day 2. I never thought this 4c hair could ever look nice in a wng. Wow...just wow.

Guinan · Jul 13, 2016

faithVA said:
Where are the pictures? We want to see the cute WNG

I keep meaning to post pics, but this dang photo resizer is a pain.

The 1st couple of pics are after I clay washed my hair, with no product

The the last pics are the wng.

faithVA · Jul 13, 2016

pelohello said:
I keep meaning to post pics, but this dang photo resizer is a pain.

The 1st couple of pics are after I clay washed my hair, with no product

The the last pics are the wng.

That does look nice. You have some great curls. I'm loving the hang time in that first picture.

Guinan · Jul 14, 2016

I went to cvs yesterday to pick up some tressume and they didnt have the undone conditioner! After work, I plan on going to target and getting the undone conditioner and kinky curly conditioner. I think I'm gonna try the wng with the kccc.

Guinan · Jul 14, 2016

Went to target and spent way to much, lol. I purchased the Kinky knot stuff leave-in, two bottles of the tressume undone conditioner and something from jane carter.

I might wash my hair today.

Question, the kinky knot leave-in, that can be used as a DC and a leave-in, right?

Bajanmum · Jul 14, 2016

Ladies who are airdrying their wng, how long does it take to completely dry? Before Tuesday, I'd never tried wng as a style (never thought ii could achieve iit with 4c hair).
I'm on day 3 of the seven day challenge and I'm managing to finish all the steps by 4pm #lifehappens. Lol I spend most of my day under a bag and head wrap. But my hair is still not 100% dry and iits been 5 1/2 hours since I finished. Oh well, just four more days left. I'm doing well considering I work from home and have a baby :perplexed:

Bajanmum · Jul 14, 2016

pelohello said:
Went to target and spent way to much, lol. I purchased the Kinky knot stuff leave-in, two bottles of the tressume undone conditioner and something from jane carter.

I might wash my hair today.

Question, the kinky knot leave-in, that can be used as a DC and a leave-in, right?

@pelohello yes kkkt is pretty decent as a DC/leave-in. My hair is nice and soft after using it both times.

GGsKin · Jul 14, 2016

Bajanmum said:
Ladies who are airdrying their wng, how long does it take to completely dry? Before Tuesday, I'd never tried wng as a style (never thought ii could achieve iit with 4c hair).
I'm on day 3 of the seven day challenge and I'm managing to finish all the steps by 4pm #lifehappens. Lol I spend most of my day under a bag and head wrap. But my hair is still not 100% dry and iits been 5 1/2 hours since I finished. Oh well, just four more days left. I'm doing well considering I work from home and have a baby

You are doing good. I did my '7days' over 2 weeks.

My wng takes about 2 or 3 days to fully dry (to roots). In the early days, my hair hardly ever got chance to fully dry before I wet it again.

GGsKin · Jul 14, 2016

pelohello said:
Went to target and spent way to much, lol. I purchased the Kinky knot stuff leave-in, two bottles of the tressume undone conditioner and something from jane carter.

I might wash my hair today.

Question, the kinky knot leave-in, that can be used as a DC and a leave-in, right?

I used to use KCKT diluted, with and without baking soda as my DC in MHM but I believe my hair responds better to true DC. It's a great detangler and left my hair soft, but builds up on my hair if used too often.

Guinan · Jul 14, 2016

Bajanmum said:
Ladies who are airdrying their wng, how long does it take to completely dry? Before Tuesday, I'd never tried wng as a style (never thought ii could achieve iit with 4c hair).
I'm on day 3 of the seven day challenge and I'm managing to finish all the steps by 4pm #lifehappens. Lol I spend most of my day under a bag and head wrap. But my hair is still not 100% dry and iits been 5 1/2 hours since I finished. Oh well, just four more days left. I'm doing well considering I work from home and have a baby

My hair takes FOREVER to dry. But I have learned a couple of tricks to cut down the drying time. For starters, before I apply my DC, I make sure my hair is damp and not soaking wet. Then when I apply my DC, I make sure it's on the creamier side, than watery. When I wake up the next day my hair is very moisturized but not soaking wet (if that makes sense). When I apply my gel, I really try to rub it in, instead of plopping it on my hair; and really focus on the roots.

I finish my wng by 5:30am, by 1pm it's dry. I semi air dry. I use a diffuser on low heat for about 10mins and focus on the areas that I know take forever to dry.

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