The Preachers

TrulyBlessed said:

Anyone watch this? Apparently they're using the set from The Real. I'm seeing this for the first time today.

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Shimmie said:

I haven't seen it, but I've been hearing about it from others.

Is it an online series or is it on Tv?

Thanks for sharing. From my understanding, this show is not Biblically structured.

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TrulyBlessed said:

It's on TV (Fox 5 at 1pm M-F where I am). I can't see myself getting excited about this show. Right now it's in trial run and they are trying to get picked up. I'll give it a couple more views before I give up. Ru Paul will be a guest on there tomorrow

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Shimmie said:

RuPaul

Did he get saved and turn his life around?

Please keep me posted. I don't see it listed on Comcast.

Thanks Angel. Its good to be kept aware of what's going on. I may clutch a few pearls, but I'll be all the wiser. We still need to know what's going on.

Thanks again

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mrselle said:

I follow Tamera Mowry-Housley on instagram and that was how I learned about the show. If she hasn't already, she will be making an appearance on the show soon. I took a look at the show's instagram account and I want to be fair, but something is telling me this show is not right. I'm noticing more and more that people are moving away from reading the Bible and relying on the word of God and leaning toward their own affirmations. On Erica Campbell's morning show in place of a scripture reading she has "Ericaisms". On Preacher's Talk instagram account they have quotes from some of the preachers on the show. One of them says that jealousy is ok as long as its not based in insecurity. Well, isn't jealousy rooted in insecurity? And what does the Bible say about being jealous? RuPaul will be on the show talking about his show Skin Wars (a show about body painting) and praying daily. I'm just leery of these types of shows that hide under the guise of being "inspirational". The more you look into it the more you realize that there is nothing biblical about these shows.

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mrselle said:

I'm not able to post a link to the video, but for anyone interested, portions of the show are posted on YouTube. I took a look at Monique's segment from the other day. She and her husband are discussing their open marriage. Jamal Bryant makes a joke about his own infidelity. People who know the word of God will not be fooled by this show, but I worry for new believers or those who struggle with infidelity. I can see how someone could be tricked into believing that an open marriage or cheating is ok. These preachers have a responsibility to lead people the right way and I'm truly bothered that they are being so irresponsible with this platform they have been given.

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Nice Lady said:

It's unfortunate that y'all don't like the show but the show is a good show. But not everything is for everybody. He made a joke and then, stated the issue that saved and unsaved people have about open marriage. The ratings demonstrate that it's a platform that show that preachers care about others and deal with humanity. There are many, many more episodes. I'm praying that you find what God has for you and operate out of the platform he's given you with fear and trembling.

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Shimmie said:

Not 'liking' the show is not unfortunate. What is truly unfortunate is that these men are advocating the sins of the world. They are lukewarm; not steadfast upon the foundation of God's Word.

To pacify RuPaul's lifestyle? Monique's disrespect for marriage? These preachers are sitting here telling the entire viewing audience that what they are doing is 'okay'. It is not okay. What it that hard for them to minister the truth to RuPaul and to Monique? To tell them that they are wrong.

The only thing that God has for us is HIS Word, not this show; not to yield to the world's watering down of who God is and shall always be. These preachers are very dangerous...very. There is a huge 'fly in the ointment', here. They are saying that folks can mix sin with the Church. God's Word says that we cannot. God's Word clearly says that 'a little leaven, leavens the whole lump.

This is not about 'loving' humanity, it's about serving the god of this world who is out to steal, kill and to destroy.

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Sis, I just saw your response. I don't share your views. But, I pray that God uses you to do everything that he planned for you to do while you were in your mother's womb. I also pray for your local pastor that you wouldn't quit on him if his humanity is unveiled.

God is pleased with you and is wooing you to keep offering prayers for women on this forum forever and ever.

Huge hugs to you

Nice Lady said:

Sis, I just saw your response. I don't share your views. But, I pray that God uses you to do everything that he planned for you to do while you were in your mother's womb. I also pray for your local pastor that you wouldn't quit on him if his humanity is unveiled.

God is pleased with you and is wooing you to keep offering prayers for women on this forum forever and ever.

Huge hugs to you

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Shimmie said:

I appreciate your beautiful words. Yet, it doesn't validate "The Preachers" and their platform.

These men are "pausing" in the true Gospel of Jesus Christ. They are straddling the fence. This show is not a bridge to bring men and women from sin, but to keep them in it. They're trying to blend the world with the Gospel, instead of speaking the truth.

God's Word is clear: " How will they know without a preacher?"

There are more than enough talk shows online and on the air that 'blend' with sin. It's time for the Church to take a stand and to use these platforms to stand for God and not against Him.

Speak out! Tell Monique that she is wrong. Tell her! Don't sit there and pacify her mess.

Speak out! Tell RuPaul that it is not okay to be gay. Don't sit there as that preacher did and tell him how much he admires one in drag. Really? What are these men afraid of? Could it be the loss of money?

Humanity is no excuse to hide behind.

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Nice Lady said:

Well The Preachers has 7.5 million viewers. I'm an observer. I have noticed that many Christians are using that you must not even rub shoulders with the unsaved ot talk to them aa though they have HIV/AIDS---Never won them to Christ. This old view about RuPaul or Druggie Died celebrity has never won them over. Why do we have celebrities in the past that want nothing to do with the church because of this rigidness? Is it working? Because you work for an employer and employers don't like employees that can only identify problems. In my personal experience, if you are only able to identify provlems, then you're not a fit for any growing organization. In your vast experience of soul-winning, what do you recommend we do? How do we stop sending people to hell by the boatloads because our techniques and self-righteousness hasn't helped?

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Shimmie said:

I understand that you love your pastor, Jamaal Bryant. It's admirable. However, Jamaal is a con artist. He does not / will not take a pure stand for God.

Loving people with the love of Christ does not equal mellowing their lifestyle. You can live and still tell folks the truth.

I watched RuPaul's expression when the Pastor was talking to him. RuPaul's expression was that he knew his lifestyle did not reconcile with God, so why was this Pastor "lying" to him. Sinners know sin, and to sit with a pastor who says the opposite of what God says, is more offensive to them than the truth.

Sinners need to know the truth. It didn't stop me from turning to God. Jesus clearly says: The TRUTH will set you free. And it does. God does not lie to folks. He chastises those whom He loves. How will they know without a preacher who will tell them the truth.

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It's not about love.... It's about DOING RIGHT. What they are doing is impacting 7.5 million. From your reach and impact, what do you recommend they do in dealing and personally leading CELEBRITIES to Lord that's realistic?

It's hypocritical if we have the mind of Christ and keep using FAILING TACTICS to win the lost. In Proverbs, it says that he who wins souls is wise. Please give me personal experiences from dealing with the public of what you've done.

Also, what stategies with their demographics from your experience in soul-winning with CELEBRITIES should they employ. In the NEW TESTAMENT,JESUS praised the shrewd unsaved businessman and respected his SMARTNESS. Let me know how would you do the same widely.

Lovingly,
ME

mrselle said:

I'm not able to post a link to the video, but for anyone interested, portions of the show are posted on YouTube. I took a look at Monique's segment from the other day. She and her husband are discussing their open marriage. Jamal Bryant makes a joke about his own infidelity. People who know the word of God will not be fooled by this show, but I worry for new believers or those who struggle with infidelity. I can see how someone could be tricked into believing that an open marriage or cheating is ok. These preachers have a responsibility to lead people the right way and I'm truly bothered that they are being so irresponsible with this platform they have been given.

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Laela said:

As a side note - timing??

http://www.tmz.com/2016/07/29/preachers-john-gray-wife-flight-delay-fight/

I understand the frustration with airlines and how families tend to get scattered, and with the new bill to help ease things, but I'm not feeling this pastor's wife "tirade", showing her phone w/ her "famous" husband on it, and conveniently crying. Just as bad as Osteen's wife. The flight attendants also could've handled it better - considering kids are involved.

Do "rich" Christians really have to behave this way in public?

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TrulyBlessed said:

I saw this on TMZ and the full interview with the Grays yesterday. The flight attendants were dead wrong and I applaud the passengers for having her back. One white guy who couldn't mind his business reported her to a flight attendant as being disruptive for switching seats (so her nanny could sit in her first class seat and she can sit and watch her own kids in coach). All the flight attendants heard from white guy is this woman was being disruptive and because she was a black woman it must be true so she was ordered to get off. The flight attendants complained to the captain of the plane all because a white passenger assumed she was causing trouble by switching seats and they took his word for it. The article says the plane was backing out from the gate but she said the plane was parked, door open and some people were still boarding.

She did nothing wrong and in the era where black people are being treated like Wednesday's trash ready for pickup, I would've made a scene too. The airline owes her and the other passengers (except the nosey tattletale) an apology. Not to mention she was flying to attend her uncle's funeral who died suddenly so her emotions were already running high. She probably showed her phone with her husband to make sure how she was treated would hit the media which it did.

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blessedandfavoured said:

Hello Ladies, I'd never heard of this show until this thread, so I googled and found this and this. What I will say is that not all impact is positive (after all, I believe the t.v. show called Glee made an impact ), and pointing out sin and error does not equate to being judgemental and/or self-righteous. If it did, then Jesus was both because (among other incidents) He told the woman to go and sin no more, implying (bluntly stating, in fact) that she was in sin, and that she should STOP. We're supposed to speak the truth in love, and I think that's where we often fall down. As true believers in Christ and the Word of God, we're sometimes so eager to snatch people out of the fire that we hurt them in the process :/. God forgive us when that happens.

May God help us not to be those who follow blind leaders, or those who love the praise of men more than the commendation of God. Jesus had much to say about false prophets and such - by their fruits ye shall know them. What about the fruit of these 'preachers'? I've only heard of Mr. Bryant and Mr. Gray. I heard Mr. Gray speak once, and it was Biblical, but that was years ago, so I don't know what he's up to now. Mr. Bryant seems to really want to be famous... that's the vibe I got from him the very first time I saw his show on t.v. I could be wrong, but nothing I've heard about him since has encouraged me to change my mind.

Celebrities are humans just like anyone else. The Bible says that faith comes from hearing the Word of God. Preaching to celebrities should be the same as preaching to anyone - they are sinners and they need a Savior. Christ is that Savior, the only Savior. They need to be told the truth - that Christ died for their sins so that they can live, that they should forsake their sins and receive His grace, and that they should leave Babylon and move to Jerusalem, lol. Seriously, though, the Gospel is for all. And it is the power of God to save - not 'acceptance' or 'tolerance', but the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Maybe the problem is that some of these people were not sent by God. God knows. Apologies for the long post, I hope it's at least been edifying. May God bless us all, and shield people from the lies of the devil.


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Shimmie said:

Beautiful post and well taken...

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blessedandfavoured said:

Thanks Aunt @Shimmie , all glory goes to God.
Be blessed.

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Shimmie said:

After watching the video, I agree that the airline was wrong. They did not treat her respectfully, at all. She did nothing wrong by wanting to sit with her children and changing seats in order to do so. That was not disruptive. The airline staff were disruptive.

Why couldn't they show her understanding and actually they should have commended her for making the decision to sit with her children to keep them calm and under control.

I may not be supportive of these preachers and their show, yet I am supportive of this 'wife' who was not treated fairly by the airline. Those staffers were very snarky with her and unnecessarily so.

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Laela said:

Shimmie, I understand... No doubt the flight attendants were rude here, but I'm also not getting the whole story. This was the result of miscommunication and mishandling of seat assignments on the airline's part and it could've been dealt with better. What did this associate pastor say to the flight attendant as she was heading to coach to switch seats that made the flight attendant react "offended? Did she ask the flight attendant to switch before she got up to do so? (sometimes doing this can go a long way with unfriendly flight attendants who like to exercise their authority on board).

Even with the video interview with TMZ, in which the Grays accused them of racial profiling -- they had no solid proof of this. The Grays travel all the time so, like everyone else who flies, they should know there are rules concerning seat assignments. There was a switching of seats from one class to another - not within a class, so that switch was a major one. I've recently flown and saw people (black and white) ask to switch seats with no incident or protests from the attendant, but that was within the same class. Yes, as customers we have rights but the flight industry also has rules, with passenger safety in mind. I don't agree that she did "nothing but be black". To call officers to the plane indeed was extreme and unnecessary but I believe if she was silently protesting, there would be no news story. She was well within her rights to ask the attendants what is she accused of and her "motherly instincts" kicked in; however, encouraging the passengers to applaud her and her husband drew too much attention to herself... Having a FaceTime conversation for all on board to hear drew attention to herself. If that was her way of protesting, it was done poorly.

As Christians were are called to be an example - that flight could've witnessed a Jesus experience but didn't...

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