Are We To Blame? Online Vendors
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Aggie
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Additionally in reference to reformulations, we know our own hair, some of us are Lo-po, some Hi-po, and others like myself have normal porosity hair.
Depending on what the porosity is for our hair and if we are using a particular product that meets our hair needs perfectly and then suddenly there is a switch in the formulation of that product, that could become a serious problem. It could set our hair progress back a bit and we don't want that. That could put a very bad taste in my mouth for that merchant.
I think it's sneaky and not very nice to change the formulation without notifying the customers. I think we should know beforehand if there is a change in formulation of the products that work perfectly for our hair.
Depending on what the porosity is for our hair and if we are using a particular product that meets our hair needs perfectly and then suddenly there is a switch in the formulation of that product, that could become a serious problem. It could set our hair progress back a bit and we don't want that. That could put a very bad taste in my mouth for that merchant.
I think it's sneaky and not very nice to change the formulation without notifying the customers. I think we should know beforehand if there is a change in formulation of the products that work perfectly for our hair.
IDareT'sHair
PJ Rehabilitation Center
Blended with Proprietary Ingredients and Love always get to me.
Saludable84
Better Late Than Ugly
Blended with Proprietary Ingredients and Love always get to me.
Might as well state you added fairy dust and the blood of unicorns.
IDareT'sHair
PJ Rehabilitation Center
Saludable84
Better Late Than Ugly
YvetteWithJoy
On break
Can someone make sense of this to me (the prices and amounts below aren't real, but reflect a real situation):
Online vendor sells a product for, say, $7 in the 3 oz. bottle.
SAME online vendor sells same product for, say, $18 in the 6 oz. bottle.
What does this accomplish? Why wouldn't I just purchase 2 of the 3 oz. bottles? Why doesn't your bigger bottle cost $14 or less because it's costing you LESS to provide it in that size (one less bottle you have to pay for to send me)?
I know I'm missing something. Thanks.
Online vendor sells a product for, say, $7 in the 3 oz. bottle.
SAME online vendor sells same product for, say, $18 in the 6 oz. bottle.
What does this accomplish? Why wouldn't I just purchase 2 of the 3 oz. bottles? Why doesn't your bigger bottle cost $14 or less because it's costing you LESS to provide it in that size (one less bottle you have to pay for to send me)?
I know I'm missing something. Thanks.
Saludable84
Better Late Than Ugly
Most customers won't break it down that far. Just buy the bigger bottle. This is a situation where I will ask the vendor but won't get an answer.
YvetteWithJoy
On break
I don't wanna ask!
I'm getting two small ones in two different scents for cheaper than one scent . . . same amounts in the end.
If I say something, I bet she won't lower the price of the bigger one (comparing it to other stuff at her site), but instead raise the price on the smaller one!
Bette Davis Eyes
The "OG" Product Junkie
all products are Keracare
1st lather sulfate free shampoo
hydrating detangling sulfate free shampoo
Humecto creme conditioner in 5lb tub
Leave-in conditioner
Intensive restorative masque - every 4-6 weeks or after I use demi-permanent color. I love this! it is a very moisturizing protein conditioner that detangles and leaves my hair super soft and moisturized.
Natural textures butter cream - I like it, but not love it. I'm still searching for the perfect daily moisturizer
Twist and define cream - I really like the hold it provides, soft and fluffy. But it will not replace my Wetline gel, more definition
Foam wrap set extra hold - I use this with the wetline gel. My summer twist/braid outs do not budge, even in extreme humidity.
BostonMaria
Well-Known Member
@shawnyblazes
I'm interested to hear with other Handmade/Natural Aficionado's have to say about this subject.
Good Thread.
Hi IDareT'sHair!! Missed you!
Responding to your question from August 2nd... I used to be that natural product aficionado till I got bad service one too many times. I am not waiting months for a product and God forbid I complain I would be crucified LOL So if the product is not sold at a store I'm not buying it. I love that Target carries all my favorites minority-owned product lines so I can support these businesses AND get my stuff in seconds. Plus I can return with no issues. I won't buy online again unless its absolutely the best product in the world that makes my hair go from waist length to magically fairy foot length.
IDareT'sHair
PJ Rehabilitation Center
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IDareT'sHair
PJ Rehabilitation Center
myronnie
Well-Known Member
I agree with @shawnyblazes . I remember Hairitage-gate a couple years ago. I was a member of a haircare group on Facebook that stanned for Hairitage HARD. When she went crazy on LHCF for taking advantage of the Black friday codes, they had her back. But what surprised me is when all of that other stuff came to light..the days-old food in the oven under the area where she makes the products, the haphazard mixing, the "broken" conditioners, the unprofessional messages and rants. Everyone on that facebook group had her back!! I could not believe it. I think that sometimes people forget about common sense when they really love a product line/product. Soft hair isn't THAT important.
IDareT'sHair
PJ Rehabilitation Center
@myronnie
Great Post!
*Cackles* at H-H- Gate! Thinks about somma' her stuff in her earlier days.
There are several other questions in this thread I'd like your opinion on: Combined Shipping, Inconsistencies, How long is long enough after a pre-ship notice has been issued etc throughout this thread.....please see thread.
Great Post!
*Cackles* at H-H- Gate!
Thinks about somma' her stuff in her earlier days.There are several other questions in this thread I'd like your opinion on: Combined Shipping, Inconsistencies, How long is long enough after a pre-ship notice has been issued etc throughout this thread.....please see thread.
myronnie
Well-Known Member
@myronnie
Great Post!
*Cackles* at H-H- Gate!
There are several other questions in this thread I'd like your opinion on: Combined Shipping, Inconsistencies, How long is long enough after a pre-ship notice has been issued etc throughout this thread.....please see thread.
Thanks T
I have a short attention-span when it comes to posting ATM so I'll comment on inconsistencies because that is what has affected me a lot during the years.I cannot stand when a vendor has significant consistency issues. I understand that handmade haircare products are subject to multiple variables, but when the product is RADICALLY different I don't think that should be accepted. Thankfully I've only experienced this a couple times and the issues have been handled but this is the main reason why I don't buy from the lesser known vendors. I'm too worried that they will discontinue/change something that my hair loves!
IDareT'sHair
PJ Rehabilitation Center
IDareT'sHair
PJ Rehabilitation Center
@shawnyblazes
What are your thoughts on receiving a sample of something, and then you buy the Full Size (based on the sample) and the Full Size is absolutely nothing like the Sample?
What are your thoughts on receiving a sample of something, and then you buy the Full Size (based on the sample) and the Full Size is absolutely nothing like the Sample?
Bette Davis Eyes
The "OG" Product Junkie
I'm mad as tar.
I'm debating on what I'm going to put on my email. I wasn't going to say anything about the sample which the oil was separating when I received it. -_- .......
BUT my fill size item looks nothing like the sample.
IDareT'sHair
PJ Rehabilitation Center
@shawnyblazes
I loved Jakeala's Beau Vert sample and couldn't rest until I got a Full Size.
Thankfully, the sample and the Full Sized matched up.
I would have been totally outdone if there would have been inconsistencies.
I loved Jakeala's Beau Vert sample and couldn't rest until I got a Full Size.
Thankfully, the sample and the Full Sized matched up.
I would have been totally outdone if there would have been inconsistencies.
myronnie
Well-Known Member
Oh my goodness, I've actually experienced this! It was a Koils By Nature Peppermint Gel that I fell in love with. That gel had my edges looking GOODT and super soft. I ordered the full size version and it was a greasy, crunchy mess. I was heartbroken.
IDareT'sHair
PJ Rehabilitation Center
@myronnie @shawnyblazes
Yep.
This is an issue. I was 'thankful' Jakeala's sample actually mirrored her Full Size.
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BostonMaria
Well-Known Member
Blended with Proprietary Ingredients and Love always get to me.
Apparently Love is expensive as hell LMAO
These so called natural products are so expensive
Vshanell
FKA Pokahontas
I did a face palm and belly laugh when you said use it for my feet
I know exactly where your coming from. I've been buying online since I first found hair forums in '05. There was no natural products in stores then so if you wanted natural you had to buy online. I remember there was only like a handful of vendors then....Oyin, Qhemet, Asha's. Im so glad there's so many options in stores now. I no longer buy online. I just got fed up with crazy shipping prices and the shelf life of a lot of products. Some of these places really need to get it together with this $10-15 shipping
. I just can't, I won't.
Vshanell
FKA Pokahontas
This reminds me of the Hairitage Hydration saga
She was big mad at us I still have some of that crap.IDareT'sHair
PJ Rehabilitation Center
I know exactly where your coming from. I've been buying online since I first found hair forums in '05. There was no natural products in stores then so if you wanted natural you had to buy online. I remember there was only like a handful of vendors then....Oyin, Qhemet, Asha's. Im so glad there's so many options in stores now. I no longer buy online. I just got fed up with crazy shipping prices and the shelf life of a lot of products. Some of these places really need to get it together with this $10-15 shipping
@Pokahontas
Great Perspective.
Bette Davis Eyes
The "OG" Product Junkie
I really miss Myashas
IDareT'sHair
PJ Rehabilitation Center
@shawnyblazes
I miss Jasmine's Bath & Beauty (best products & scents evvvrrrrr)
Her CS was great too.
I miss Jasmine's Bath & Beauty (best products & scents evvvrrrrr)
Her CS was great too.
IDareT'sHair
PJ Rehabilitation Center
@shawnyblazes
Here's one I just talked about in U1B1.
When "Vendors" offer a particular discount% if you spend $X but it is almost impossible to get to that number without added an additional item or product you had no intentions of getting just to get to that $.
That Burns me up!
I've abandoned a lot of carts with this practice, because they round it up so, you have to add something else to even get to the discount.
Here's one I just talked about in U1B1.
When "Vendors" offer a particular discount% if you spend $X but it is almost impossible to get to that number without added an additional item or product you had no intentions of getting just to get to that $.
That Burns me up!
I've abandoned a lot of carts with this practice, because they round it up so, you have to add something else to even get to the discount.
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