Random Hair Thoughts/Thinking out loud

Royalq · Apr 7, 2017

Damn. I'm strongly considering relaxing my natural hair. It's just too much. I had 8 cornrows in my hair, just 8. Why did it take me 10 hours to take them out?? I started at 5:30 and finished 2:30am. Ridiculous. I know my hair is a tangled up mess, but I'm at a natural hair salon now and even the wash girl seemed to be overwhelmed. Granted her detangling technique needs some work but I dont blame her for getting rough. Try being nice to my hair and your in for a 12 hour detangled session. She detangled my hair for like and hour and it still wasn't enough. My scalp is sore from the take down last night and from the detangling today. I'm under the dryer now about to get a blow out and I'm not looking forward to it at all. I don't deserve pain and frustration everytime I do my hair. Treat it gently it messes up, treat it rough it messes up. I don't want to but I might have to get virgin relaxer for peace of mind. I fear people judging me because my long natural hair influence along of people to go natural, my mom included. And it seems everyone else's hair is much easier.... I'm so frustrated

flyygirlll2 · Apr 7, 2017

@Royalq I'm sorry you're going through this. I just want to say that I completely understand because my hair is not easy to deal with either.

Coilystep · Apr 7, 2017

Royalq said:
Damn. I'm strongly considering relaxing my natural hair. It's just too much. I had 8 cornrows in my hair, just 8. Why did it take me 10 hours to take them out?? I started at 5:30 and finished 2:30am. Ridiculous. I know my hair is a tangled up mess, but I'm at a natural hair salon now and even the wash girl seemed to be overwhelmed. Granted her detangling technique needs some work but I dont blame her for getting rough. Try being nice to my hair and your in for a 12 hour detangled session. She detangled my hair for like and hour and it still wasn't enough. My scalp is sore from the take down last night and from the detangling today. I'm under the dryer now about to get a blow out and I'm not looking forward to it at all. I don't deserve pain and frustration everytime I do my hair. Treat it gently it messes up, treat it rough it messes up. I don't want to but I might have to get virgin relaxer for peace of mind. I fear people judging me because my long natural hair influence along of people to go natural, my mom included. And it seems everyone else's hair is much easier.... I'm so frustrated

Sorry to hear you're having trouble. Sending you an e-hug. I don't have any advice. Have you tried some if this straightening systems ie: aveda, design essentials, tms, keratin etc? A perm seems so drastic and permanent. In the long run if that is what you decide is best for you go for it. You are the one who has to care for your hair.

ItsMeLilLucky · Apr 7, 2017

Royalq said:
Damn. I'm strongly considering relaxing my natural hair. It's just too much. I had 8 cornrows in my hair, just 8. Why did it take me 10 hours to take them out?? I started at 5:30 and finished 2:30am. Ridiculous. I know my hair is a tangled up mess, but I'm at a natural hair salon now and even the wash girl seemed to be overwhelmed. Granted her detangling technique needs some work but I dont blame her for getting rough. Try being nice to my hair and your in for a 12 hour detangled session. She detangled my hair for like and hour and it still wasn't enough. My scalp is sore from the take down last night and from the detangling today. I'm under the dryer now about to get a blow out and I'm not looking forward to it at all. I don't deserve pain and frustration everytime I do my hair. Treat it gently it messes up, treat it rough it messes up. I don't want to but I might have to get virgin relaxer for peace of mind. I fear people judging me because my long natural hair influence along of people to go natural, my mom included. And it seems everyone else's hair is much easier.... I'm so frustrated

Do what makes sense for you. You aren't what your current hair texture is, you are you whether you're relaxed or natural.

YvetteWithJoy · Apr 7, 2017

Coilystep said:
Sorry to hear you're having trouble. Sending you an e-hug. I don't have any advice. Have you tried some if this straightening systems ie: aveda, design essentials, tms, keratin etc? A perm seems so drastic and permanent. In the long run if that is what you decide is best for you go for it. You are the one who has to care for your hair.

+1 to Coilystep's post.

@Royalq, I agree with you: Hair shouldn't be so troublesome. It's okay for you to do what works for you.

I got my hair flat ironed out of frustration once, and it reminded me that I don't like maintaining straight hair. But you might! To make sure I wanted straight hair, I'd try going in for a flat iron every 2 weeks, maintaining it straight in between each flat ironing appointment.

Alma Petra · Apr 7, 2017

Royalq said:
Damn. I'm strongly considering relaxing my natural hair. It's just too much. I had 8 cornrows in my hair, just 8. Why did it take me 10 hours to take them out?? I started at 5:30 and finished 2:30am. Ridiculous. I know my hair is a tangled up mess, but I'm at a natural hair salon now and even the wash girl seemed to be overwhelmed. Granted her detangling technique needs some work but I dont blame her for getting rough. Try being nice to my hair and your in for a 12 hour detangled session. She detangled my hair for like and hour and it still wasn't enough. My scalp is sore from the take down last night and from the detangling today. I'm under the dryer now about to get a blow out and I'm not looking forward to it at all. I don't deserve pain and frustration everytime I do my hair. Treat it gently it messes up, treat it rough it messes up. I don't want to but I might have to get virgin relaxer for peace of mind. I fear people judging me because my long natural hair influence along of people to go natural, my mom included. And it seems everyone else's hair is much easier.... I'm so frustrated

Everybody's hair is different so you don't have to worry about them judging you. Just do what is right for you and your hair.

I don't know but I have noticed that detangling gets easier if I detangle more frequently (e.g. every 2 or 3 days) because there will be less shed hairs to deal with. And if I don't allow my hair to tangle up by for example sleeping on it loose.

With protective styles like cornrows detangling becomes a ***** if I attempt to moisturize and seal multiple times before take down because some of my products contained silicones or butters and they would build up and cause severe matting. I don't believe that the hair on its own would matt without products, just tangle up some because of the sheds since it's already stretched and not allowed to move and tangle excessively while in the cornrows. That's why I would only recommend plain water and a very light oil if moisturizing seems like a must. And I would definitely recommend detangling each braid on its own immediately after being taken down because the great amount of shed hairs after prolonged protective styling makes detangling in sections an absolute must. Detangle and wrap up onto a bantu knot then move on to the next braid.

But as I said YMMV because every single head of hair behaves differently at the end of the day.

YvetteWithJoy · Apr 7, 2017

Royalq said:
Damn. I'm strongly considering relaxing my natural hair. It's just too much. I had 8 cornrows in my hair, just 8. Why did it take me 10 hours to take them out?? I started at 5:30 and finished 2:30am. Ridiculous. I know my hair is a tangled up mess, but I'm at a natural hair salon now and even the wash girl seemed to be overwhelmed. Granted her detangling technique needs some work but I dont blame her for getting rough. Try being nice to my hair and your in for a 12 hour detangled session. She detangled my hair for like and hour and it still wasn't enough. My scalp is sore from the take down last night and from the detangling today. I'm under the dryer now about to get a blow out and I'm not looking forward to it at all. I don't deserve pain and frustration everytime I do my hair. Treat it gently it messes up, treat it rough it messes up. I don't want to but I might have to get virgin relaxer for peace of mind. I fear people judging me because my long natural hair influence along of people to go natural, my mom included. And it seems everyone else's hair is much easier.... I'm so frustrated

One other thing: I used to have to break up my detangling session into two days . . . like 4 hours on day 1 and 4 hours on day 2. I started going into a natural hair salon to get my hair steamed, and I didn't even recognize my hair: It was so hydrated, easy to manage, and nicely defined. Then I started learning about moisture-protein balance, and that is helping immensely.

Nowadays if my hair is very tangled, it takes me 10-15 min to detangle each of 6-8 twists. That's typically if I apply a very softening conditioner/prepoo and steam treat it ahead of time. I'm just beginning to accept that I'm not having the experience that most everyone else is having: It's hard to detangle my hair and it takes me a long time.

Now 10 hours every time? That would definitely cause me to consider other options, and I would feel some kind of way about going back to relaxing, but I'd feel MORE concerned about losing 10 hours every week or so. That's a lot of time!

Royalq · Apr 7, 2017

YvetteWithJoy said:
One other thing: I used to have to break up my detangling session into two days . . . like 4 hours on day 1 and 4 hours on day 2. I started going into a natural hair salon to get my hair steamed, and I didn't even recognize my hair: It was so hydrated, easy to manage, and nicely defined. Then I started learning about moisture-protein balance, and that is helping immensely.

Nowadays if my hair is very tangled, it takes me 10-15 min to detangle each of 6-8 twists. That's typically if I apply a very softening conditioner/prepoo and steam treat it ahead of time. I'm just beginning to accept that I'm not having the experience that most everyone else is having: It's hard to detangle my hair and it takes me a long time.

Now 10 hours every time? That would definitely cause me to consider other options, and I would feel some kind of way about going back to relaxing, but I'd feel MORE concerned about losing 10 hours every week or so. That's a lot of time!

And the crazy part is that I wasn't even detangling the cornrows, I was just trying to undo it and move the F on. Just that took 10 hours, can you imagine how long it would take to actually thoroughly detangled it.

YaniraNaturally · Apr 7, 2017

I've been using Silk Amino Acids in my hair for years. I always put a drop or two in my spray bottle and leave-in. Always buy from LotionCrafters.

I repurchased recently and it's completely different in terms of smell and color. I was still going to use it but I rubbed it in between my fingers and instead of feeling the usual slip my fingers actually started burning so badly that I had to wash my hands. I checked online and their formulation has changed but my finger shouldn't be burning like I have a chemical burn.

I'm going to call them tomorrow morning and see if maybe I've been shipped the wrong thing.

The only unfortunate thing is that I poured a little in my last BRAND NEW bottle of KCKT. At least I didn't put it in my hair. $12 down the drain but better that than my hair.

YaniraNaturally · Apr 7, 2017

Something ain't right y'all..my fingers are still slightly burning almost 30 minutes later. I'm not in pain but my fingers are uncomfortable. I don't even know if it's worth it to pursue it with Lotioncrafters because I'm spooked! I don't know if I can use anything from there again :cry3:

Saludable84 · Apr 8, 2017

YaniraNaturally said:
Something ain't right y'all..my fingers are still slightly burning almost 30 minutes later. I'm not in pain but my fingers are uncomfortable. I don't even know if it's worth it to pursue it with Lotioncrafters because I'm spooked! I don't know if I can use anything from there again

What is the ph of the SAA. I recently purchased some and a lot of vendors reformulated them

YaniraNaturally · Apr 8, 2017

Saludable84 said:
What is the ph of the SAA. I recently purchased some and a lot of vendors reformulated them

The website says 3.5-5.5. I'm not sure what the previous ph was though.

But something that ph shouldn't cause a burning/stinging feeling.

Saludable84 · Apr 8, 2017

YaniraNaturally said:
The website says 3.5-5.5. I'm not sure what the previous ph was though.

But something that ph shouldn't cause a burning/stinging feeling.

A low ph would causing some tingling. Apparently Silk is being cultivated (I'm not using the right word but I can't think of the word) differently, causing the color to be dark. I searched 4 vendors for the light one but claim is it isn't pure.

I need to check mine out now.

YaniraNaturally · Apr 8, 2017

Saludable84 said:
A low ph would causing some tingling. Apparently Silk is being cultivated (I'm not using the right word but I can't think of the word) differently, causing the color to be dark. I searched 4 vendors for the light one but claim is it isn't pure.

I need to check mine out now.

Oh boy, thanks for the info! I thought I was going crazy :lol:

Let me know if yours is okay!

GGsKin · Apr 8, 2017

When your Mum calls you early on a Saturday morning to ask about henna and combining locs. Now she's got me mixing up a batch for her (for me to apply on Tuesday)

Bette Davis Eyes · Apr 8, 2017

@CrissieD

curlyTisME · Apr 8, 2017

Early morning cowash and deep conditioning session. Used my new Laila Ali soft bonnet dryer for 45 min. Styled in a WNG using Wetline Xtreme Gel.

I'll do this daily or every two days until I get tired of it or run out of the gel.

LavenderMint · Apr 8, 2017

Learned last night to always check my tools before I use them. I don't know what was in my diffuser attachment...... because I apparently blew it out into my hair.
.....
There were legs.
I was going to get my hair washed and cut today anyway.

Sharpened · Apr 8, 2017

I have not used either my silk bonnet or pillowcase in two weeks. :look:

Cotton poly is better than straight cotton for my hair. Thank Yah I don't sleep wild.

Wetline gel keeps my hair from getting smooshed at night, but the shrinkage will not be denied (not that I was trying to fight it hard).

Nosy DS2 talkin'bout, "Instead of taking all those pictures to share, why not make a video?"

Me: the Mom stare

DS2 gave a quick nod. "Well, OK then..." [Exit stage left]

BrownBetty · Apr 8, 2017

SheaMoisture Quintessential Naturals Tour

If it comes to your town get there at the start time because if you don't you won't get a swag bag. I got here 40 mins after the event started and missed out on the bags. The vendor lines are long and a couple aren't selling hair products e.g. Cantu I feel as if I wasted $25. I won't be attending another one.

BrownBetty · Apr 8, 2017

BrownBetty said:
SheaMoisture Quintessential Naturals Tour

If it comes to your town get there at the start time because if you don't you won't get a swag bag. I got here 40 mins after the event started and missed out on the bags. The vendor lines are long and a couple aren't selling hair products e.g. Cantu I feel as if I wasted $25. I won't be attending another one.

It really isn't worth it if you don't get a bag. I feel as if they should have a bag for everyone who attend. I'm not complaining just trying to give my LHCF sisters a heads up.

FoxxyLocs · Apr 8, 2017

My co worker's wig game is atrocious. Just terrible. She just slaps it on top of her head like a hat. It looks like she has a mini afro with relaxed ends peeking out the front, not as leave out, just visible under the wig. It's the most awful hair I think I've ever seen and if she were my friend there is no way I would let her go out like that.

Royalq · Apr 9, 2017

Wow!! Soutanicals knot sauce is serious. I've never had something so slimy and able to detangled my hair so well. I had horror stylist experience (I'll make a thread on that) and I was left with supper tangled up and broken hair. On a whim I went out and bought the knot sauce before trying to fix my hair. It feels so slippery and slimy. And it goes in the same way. The tangles came right out and the difficult ones I just had to work a bit. If it works so well on my absolute worst (and very rare) hair I wonder how it will work on regular hair? The only place it didn't really work well was my crown because my crown has a weird and rough texture.

YvetteWithJoy · Apr 9, 2017

Royalq said:
Wow!! Soutanicals knot sauce is serious. I've never had something so slimy and able to detangled my hair so well. I had horror stylist experience (I'll make a thread on that) and I was left with supper tangled up and broken hair. On a whim I went out and bought the knot sauce before trying to fix my hair. It feels so slippery and slimy. And it goes in the same way. The tangles came right out and the difficult ones I just had to work a bit. If it works so well on my absolute worst (and very rare) hair I wonder how it will work on regular hair? The only place it didn't really work well was my crown because my crown has a weird and rough texture.

Yaaaaaaaaay!

Had you already tried their newer detangler, Soultanicals Hair Glide?

Royalq · Apr 9, 2017

YvetteWithJoy said:
Yaaaaaaaaay!

Had you already tried their newer detangler, Soultanicals Hair Glide?

No I saw both of them and I was like "why 2?". So I just took the knot sauce because I've heard of it before. What's the difference between the two?

YvetteWithJoy · Apr 9, 2017

Royalq said:
No I saw both of them and I was like "why 2?". So I just took the knot sauce because I've heard of it before. What's the difference between the two?

I've only used the Hair Glide, but I was told that the Hair Glide is even more slippery than the Knot Sauce. I don't know, though. Hopefully someone who has used both will chime in. I have 3 bottles of the Hair Glide because I'm afraid to run out, LOL.

KinksAndInk · Apr 9, 2017

I need to get a few more silk pillow cases. I don't think I'll ever wear a bonnet again.

Lissa0821 · Apr 9, 2017

Jane Carter products are buy 2 get one free Sally's. Making a beeline there today to pick up some leave in conditioners at 12 when thier doors open. I just need the first one I go to have everything I want.

trueheartofgold · Apr 9, 2017

I really wish all hair products have a protective seal. It's so easy for people to open and tamper with products. Who knows if they've been touched before we buy them? I was in target this morning and saw a whole lot of products without lids.

I'm going to start ordering everything online...

GettingKinky · Apr 9, 2017

I love the way my hair looks when I first step out of the shower after I wash it. I wish it would look this way when it dries.

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