Do People Still Think She Doesn't Have 4c Hair?

Theresamonet

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Is it rare for 4c hair to have heat damage?

I don't know why 4c is considered the hardest to manage. Everyone I know or have seen with 4c hair detangles their hair so easily. Easier than I ever could, with all of these coils & curls intertwined in my head.

I think styling is where I would struggle with 4c hair, but I'd love it on wash day.
 

beingofserenity

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Is it rare for 4c hair to have heat damage?

I don't know why 4c is considered the hardest to manage. Everyone I know or have seen with 4c hair detangles their hair so easily. Easier than I ever could, with all of these coils & curls intertwined in my head.

I think styling is where I would struggle with 4c hair, but I'd love it on wash day.

I'm starting to wonder about this detangling thing. I just tried detangling my freshly washed, naked hair and it was a lot easier than when I try to use product. When I add a detangler it coils up making it harder to comb through. I think it depends on the condition of the hair because my sister has super 4c hair and hers is nightmarish to detangle, but she doesn't take great care of it.
 

beingofserenity

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She is 4b/c for sure; look at her coils around the front and crown area, vs. the back. I think because her texture is cottony, it is harder to tell.

Candidann is one of the few who are pure 4c:

Ok I agree. I think she's more 4bish. I can see curls and coils in all that shrunkenness, similar to mine.
 

Sharpened

A fleck on His Sword
I'm starting to wonder about this detangling thing. I just tried detangling my freshly washed, naked hair and it was a lot easier than when I try to use product. When I add a detangler it coils up making it harder to comb through. I think it depends on the condition of the hair because my sister has super 4c hair and hers is nightmarish to detangle, but she doesn't take great care of it.
Have you tried conditioner and oil? I am starting to wonder if the placement of fatty alcohols in a conditioner makes a difference.
 

beingofserenity

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Have you tried conditioner and oil? I am starting to wonder if the placement of fatty alcohols in a conditioner makes a difference.

That works too. But it requires a lot of product and it doesn't work any faster than what I just did on naked hair. And I still get breakage. What are your thoughts on fatty acids? I've noticed some conditioners make my strands stick together like the Cantu cowash I just used, while others detangle my hair for me like the silicon deep conditioner I used yesterday.
 

Sharpened

A fleck on His Sword
That works too. But it requires a lot of product and it doesn't work any faster than what I just did on naked hair. And I still get breakage. What are your thoughts on fatty acids? I've noticed some conditioners make my strands stick together like the Cantu cowash I just used, while others detangle my hair for me like the silicon deep conditioner I used yesterday.
My theory, the higher up on the ingredients list they are, the "stickier" they can get. People here rave about SheScentIt, and from reading the ingredients, the fatty alcohols are placed lower on the list, making them more like an emulsifier, rather than a conditioning agent. @PJaye got any insight on this? Or does the kind of fatty alcohol play better with high, medium, or low porosity?

Personally, I think it might be a good thing to take occasional breaks from conditioner to see the true state of our hair and give our follicles a rest. Maybe that was the problem Wen users were having.
 
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beingofserenity

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My theory, the higher up on the ingredients list they are, the "stickier" they can get. People here rave about SheScentIt, and from reading the ingredients, the fatty alcohols are placed lower on the list, making them more like an emulsifier, rather than a conditioning agent. @PJaye got any insight on this? Or does the kind of fatty alcohol play better with high, medium, or low porosity?

Personally, I think it might be a good thing to take occasional breaks from conditioner to see the true state of our hair and give our follicles a rest. Maybe that is the problem Wen users were having.

Interesting. Taking a break may be something I need to try. I did a prepoo with okra water the other day. I shampooed twice. My hair was very soft afterwards and felt as if I had just deep conditioned. If it works again, I may limit using conditioner to every other wash.
 

overtherainbow

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Slightly off topic:
I'm low key jealous of my 4c hair fam. When I first BC, my 4a coils hadn't formed yet and I had 4c like edges, 4b everywhere else
I was the twist out Queen! You couldn't tell me nothing. My hair took any new curl pattern that I wanted to achieve and the kinky curl was sooo easy to detangle. My friends are 4c and their twist outs are so lush:2inlove:

But after a year or so my hair pattern finally came out to be 4a with some 3c. And the longer my hair gets, the more weighed down my curls get. This makes all my twistouts look like Top Ramen.:cry3:
 

beingofserenity

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Slightly off topic:
I'm low key jealous of my 4c hair fam. When I first BC, my 4a coils hadn't formed yet and I had 4c like edges, 4b everywhere else
I was the twist out Queen! You couldn't tell me nothing. My hair took any new curl pattern that I wanted to achieve and the kinky curl was sooo easy to detangle. My friends are 4c and their twist outs are so lush:2inlove:

But after a year or so my hair pattern finally came out to be 4a with some 3c. And the longer my hair gets, the more weighed down my curls get. This makes all my twistouts look like Top Ramen.:cry3:

You're the second person on here who has mentioned that 4c hair is easier to detangle than the more coily parts. My hair is a combination of type 4s and I feel like it will end up like yours as it gets longer, becoming looser or more elongated perhaps. My sister is definitely a 4c type though and her hair is a pain in the arse to detangle, but that could be because she doesn't condition/moisturize/wet it enough.
 

overtherainbow

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You're the second person on here who has mentioned that 4c hair is easier to detangle than the more coily parts. My hair is a combination of type 4s and I feel like it will end up like yours as it gets longer, becoming looser or more elongated perhaps. My sister is definitely a 4c type though and her hair is a pain in the arse to detangle, but that could be because she doesn't condition/moisturize/wet it enough.
Well density and the thickness of the hair strand is also a factor. But once you get the hang of styling it, 4c hair is my favorite hair type because of its diversity. But yeah not moisturizing or conditioning your hair would make any texture a nightmare to detangle.
 

Goombay_Summer

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My 4B/4C strands actually lol'd at the thought of being able to be detangled quickly. This has more to do with the diameter of our strands which are fine. Perhaps I'm the only 4B/4C natural with this problem but I find that my fine hair strands loves
to create tangles, tears, and frustrations.
 

IslandMummy

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My 4B/4C strands actually lol'd at the thought of being able to be detangled quickly. This has more to do with the diameter of our strands which are fine. Perhaps I'm the only 4B/4C natural with this problem but I find that my fine hair strands loves
to create tangles, tears, and frustrations.
You are not; I've ripped out my hair in frustration on more than one occasion
 

NaturallyATLPCH

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4c hair is easier to detangle? In what life? :eek:
I think detangling ease comes with methods but perhaps the density may make it easier. The pattern itself is definitely a challenge and more prone to breakage than any other type.
You can look in my avi and see where I'm coming from :lachen:. And to prevent tangles it stays in a bun or stretched out.
 

Tibbar

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4c hair is easier to detangle? In what life? :eek:
I think detangling ease comes with methods but perhaps the density may make it easier. The pattern itself is definitely a challenge and more prone to breakage than any other type.
You can look in my avi and see where I'm coming from :lachen:. And to prevent tangles it stays in a bun or stretched out.

Yeah I'm with you on the bolded! My 4c hair is laughing at those who wanna try and mess with it.. good luck though....
 
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