Random Hair Thoughts/Thinking out loud

ag00 · Aug 29, 2017

nerdography said:
I think it might be an ingredient change. The first two jars I had were great, but this one is as good.

Where'd you purchase it from? Cause if you got it from a place like Ross or Marshalls, they may be counterfeit or expired products. Which explains the inconsistency. Joico and other professional brands only sell to salons and other authorized retailers. Walmart, Marshalls, and other similar places only get these products through third parties and sometimes that may result in products that were either expired or tampered with. I would try going to the Joico site and locating your nearest retailer to get a new set.

nerdography · Aug 30, 2017

ag00 said:
Where'd you purchase it from? Cause if you got it from a place like Ross or Marshalls, they may be counterfeit or expired products. Which explains the inconsistency. Joico and other professional brands only sell to salons and other authorized retailers. Walmart, Marshalls, and other similar places only get these products through third parties and sometimes that may result in products that were either expired or tampered with. I would try going to the Joico site and locating your nearest retailer to get a new set.

I ordered off of Amazon, I haven't been able to find it locally. I'll order from the Joico site.

YvetteWithJoy · Aug 30, 2017

I used an old, old jar of SM Manuka Honey DC as my prepoo detangler. This because I've found a use for the many DCs that didn't perform all that great on my hair: as a detangling prepoo.

I went to rinse it out so I could poo, and :eek:

.

My hair was siiiiiiilky. Moissssssturized. No matter how long I kept rinsing it under the shower water, it stayed that way.

What the . . .

Theory #1: The difference/effect stemmed from DCing on dried hair.

Theory #2: The difference/effect stemmed from technique of application: Product was applied like a relaxed, squeezed into the hair, and brushed through the hair.

Theory #3: The difference/effect stemmed from a combo of both of the above.

I think I may have discovered something huge about my hair! So grateful to God right now at potentially solving the mystery of my DC woes.

YvetteWithJoy · Aug 30, 2017

I have DEFINITELY solidified the first half of wash day.

Section hair with Goody updo barrettes
Prepoo and detangle with a DC and the Kareco Tangle Buster brush
Cleanse or rinse scalp and strands
Deep condition

:up:

It took years of trialing to figure make that discovery: If I detangle first thing and DC after, frizz is dramatically reduced and clumpage is dramatically increased for my hair.

Next up is solidifying the hydrate, seal, and style steps.

I think it might be this:

AOBG :
Hydrate with AVJ
Moisturize and treat with (ayurvedic) oil mix
Seal with (ayurvedic) whipped shea butter
Style with (an ends-shellacking) gel

vevster · Aug 30, 2017

YvetteWithJoy said:
I have DEFINITELY solidified the first half of wash day.

Section hair with Goody updo barrettes
Prepoo and detangle with a DC and the Kareco Tangle Buster brush
Cleanse or rinse scalp and strands
Deep condition

It took years of trialing to figure make that discovery: If I detangle first thing and DC after, frizz is dramatically reduced and clumpage is dramatically increased for my hair.

Next up is solidifying the hydrate, seal, and style steps.

I think it might be this:

AOBG :
Hydrate with AVJ
Moisturize and treat with (ayurvedic) oil mix
Seal with (ayurvedic) whipped shea butter
Style with (an ends-shellacking) gel

Yes, finding the right products, technique and layering order makes all the difference.

I Am So Blessed · Aug 30, 2017

Thinking "why do a lot of naturals use their big chop date as their anniversary?" so if you have 12" of natural hair with 2" of relaxed hair you're not natural yet until you cut the ends off? I don't get that. I use the date of my very LAST relaxer. The day after my last relaxer I said "TODAY starts my journey"

I Am So Blessed · Aug 30, 2017

I am so Glad that Shima is growing out her natural hair! She is beautifully period.

PJaye · Aug 30, 2017

AdoraAdora24 said:
Thinking "why do a lot of naturals use their big chop date as their anniversary?" so if you have 12" of natural hair with 2" of relaxed hair you're not natural yet until you cut the ends off? I don't get that. I use the date of my very LAST relaxer. The day after my last relaxer I said "TODAY starts my journey"

People use the date of their big chop because that's when their hair has become completely natural. The date of the last relaxer wouldn't be an accurate accounting because the individual's hair is still in a relaxed state. IMO, that would be the anniversary of the start of one's HHJ. Until a person is totally relaxer free and has cut off the relaxed hair, they're not perceived as being natural.

whiteoleander91 · Aug 30, 2017

I like this lady's hair length, it's kinda perfect lol y'all let me know if the pic is too big, I'm on the phone

I Am So Blessed · Aug 30, 2017

PJaye said:
People use the date of their big chop because that's when their hair has become completely natural. The date of the last relaxer wouldn't be an accurate accounting because the individual's hair is still in a relaxed state. IMO, that would be the anniversary of the start of one's HHJ. Until a person is totally relaxer free and has cut off the relaxed hair, they're not perceived as being natural.

Thank you PJ, for me I like going by the date I last relaxed so I know just how long it took me to reach a goal from scalp to ends(not counting relaxed ends).The relaxed hair was already counted as gone in my mind. I like celebrating the hair coming in not the hair that'll be leaving.

Maybe my mind works different lol.

Nightingale · Aug 30, 2017

PJaye said:
People use the date of their big chop because that's when their hair has become completely natural. The date of the last relaxer wouldn't be an accurate accounting because the individual's hair is still in a relaxed state. IMO, that would be the anniversary of the start of one's HHJ. Until a person is totally relaxer free and has cut off the relaxed hair, they're not perceived as being natural.

@AdoraAdora24

I use the date of my last relaxer because I'm counting the growth of my natural hair, not how long I've been all natural.

ETA: pretty much what Adora said

Saludable84 · Aug 31, 2017

AdoraAdora24 said:
Thank you PJ, for me I like going by the date I last relaxed so I know just how long it took me to reach a goal from scalp to ends(not counting relaxed ends).The relaxed hair was already counted as gone in my mind. I like celebrating the hair coming in not the hair that'll be leaving.

Maybe my mind works different lol.

No. I agree. I do the same though I get the logics.

I Am So Blessed · Aug 31, 2017

Saludable84 said:
No. I agree. I do the same though I get the logics.

Yes Thank you!... LOL.

When I see a woman with hip length hair, I don't care about her big chop date I care about her post relaxer date which would account for her natural hair length/growth.

I Am So Blessed · Aug 31, 2017

Nightingale said:
@AdoraAdora24

I use the date of my last relaxer because I'm counting the growth of my natural hair, not how long I've been all natural.

ETA: pretty much what Adora said

Thank you!!

When I see a video showing long type 4 hair (I get all inspired) and they only mention their BC date I'm like "I DONT CARE!"

Please just tell me how many years post you are! The BC date tells me nothing!

Dayjoy · Aug 31, 2017

I mention both my last relaxer date as well as my final chop date. They're both equally important to me.

Alma Petra · Aug 31, 2017

Each of these two dates serves a different purpose.
The BC date has a more emotional/sentimental value I guess. It's the first time all your hair was purely natural. No stringy ends hanging from your curls. No need to worry about fragile demarcation lines. No hours-long detangling sessions because of the tangle-prone relaxed ends. No need to keep your hair hidden in protective styles because you are unable to wear a wash and go. Etc.
The BC date can serve the same function as the last relaxer date if you BC from the scalp ie totally shave your head, as opposed to transitioning first then cutting.

Alma Petra · Aug 31, 2017

whiteoleander91 said:
I like this lady's hair length, it's kinda perfect lol y'all let me know if the pic is too big, I'm on the phone

She has good definition but most importantly she has a good cut/shape I guess.

tapioca_pudding · Aug 31, 2017

This week out of tiredness I've been wetting or cowashing my hair almost every day. My hair hates being wet so now it feels weird. Will have to do a protein tx tomorrow.

YvetteWithJoy · Aug 31, 2017

I might be able to combine 3/4 steps into 1, shaving an hour off of wash day! :clap:

Praying that the Pure O.N.E. Beauty Prepoo Mud Hair Mask I just ordered can quadruple as prepoo, detangler, scalp cleanser, and strands cleanser. I ordered the red palm oil and hibiscus one before I received word from the mixtress that the she uses the black soap in just the way I mentioned when her daughter has gel in her hair. If the red palm oil and hibiscus one suffices to remove shea butter that'll be great!!!!!!! I'll use it, refrain from gel, and then order the black soap one.

So excited at the thought of reducing time, number of steps, number of
products, and cost!

Saludable84 · Aug 31, 2017

So, my sister told me she went to salon with "Deva" certified stylists and the stylist told her she didnt qualify for a devacut because she plans on wearing twist outs versus WNG.

What the what? I've never heard of that!

The experience was worse but that's all I will post. I told her to put a yelp or google review and she told me they already had a poor rating.

I Am So Blessed · Aug 31, 2017

I am looking forward to wash day. I just love wash day! *Sings melody* "I don't know why I love you, but I do".

My favorite part is Deep Conditioning, sitting with heat cap on, rinsing, air drying, Moisturizer, and roll-tuck-pin into a style. Don't touch for two weeks. Start the same process.

Same regimen two years straight.

Sharpened · Sep 1, 2017

I found these adorable little samples in my henna box. Pity coconut oil is a no-go for me...

SuchMagnificent · Sep 1, 2017

Shampoo'd, conditioned and flat ironed my hair today after 3 months of protective styling.
Got to use my new Red By KissProfessional Hot Comb. This plus using a paddle brush during blow drying gave my hair some movement today.
Lets see how long it takes to revert.

fifi134 · Sep 1, 2017

I'm freakin tired of my hair but I promised myself I would give up extensions because of how badly they irritate my scalp. This in between stage with my TWA sucks :sad:

Bad&Bougee · Sep 2, 2017

AdoraAdora24 said:
I am looking forward to wash day. I just love wash day! *Sings melody* "I don't know why I love you, but I do".

My favorite part is Deep Conditioning, sitting with heat cap on, rinsing, air drying, Moisturizer, and roll-tuck-pin into a style. Don't touch for two weeks. Start the same process.

Same regimen two years straight.

YES!! Isn't wash day the best?! The whole process takes about 2 days but I love it. IDK why. The ONLY thing I hate about doing my hair is roller setting. I am not good at it and I get impatient because I have to wait 2 more hours to see the results of my 2 day process.

FYI - my wash day doesn't have to take 2 days but I like pampering my hair. We fight less if I do the 2-day routine versus a 3 hour wash day.

Bad&Bougee · Sep 2, 2017

So, I am transitioning again. Yes I enjoyed being texlaxed but I really miss my coils, curls and kink. I miss my hair care routine and I miss how fluffy and pillow soft my natural hair was (not that it isn't soft now but it's a different kind of soft). I'm 18 weeks post and have been doing mostly protective styles for the past 12 weeks. New growth is out of control, thank the Lord!!! Anyhoo, with so much new growth and varying textures, I wasn't sure how my hair would turn out. I expected a tangle mess of yuck but nope. I just rinsed out my DC and I cannot believe it. My roots are super soft. Kinky but soft. I have about 3 inches of new growth and am about to do my relaxed hair routine for this rollerset. Pray for me y'all. We are going out tonight and I hope my hair does not turn out looking like I let Prince's daddy in Purple Rain do my hair. If it does and I have to stay home, I'm going to eat some crab legs, Chinese food, a cake, watch Golden Girls and laugh/pout!

Sharpened · Sep 2, 2017

fifi134 said:
I'm freakin tired of my hair but I promised myself I would give up extensions because of how badly they irritate my scalp. This in between stage with my TWA sucks

Have you tried washing the extensions first to get rid of the chemicals on thems?

fifi134 · Sep 2, 2017

@Sharpened I have, and it does work initially, but I have eczema anyway, so extensions are always a hassle for me in terms of keeping my scalp clean.

Beachy · Sep 2, 2017

I put up a good fight y'all but I lost :cry3:

. See I had it all planned out. I have really been missing the days I could wear a nice wash n go afro puff :afro:

,so I did some YouTube research and found myself a drawing string afro puff ponytail: I was like Yessss!

So I did my cowash and dc last night got up rinsed my dc out and was ready to rock my puff. I put some gel around the edges, put my hair in 2 twist and wrap them tightly and as small as possible around themselves, put my scarf on and sat under the dryer for a few minutes (watching YouTube again making sure I knew exactly what I was about to do). I try to put the clip in the back ok ....but then I tried to put the clip in the front and um yeah it was not reaching. I tried flattening my twist as much as possible but it was still not happening. So I tried clipping the puff into my twist and then I had flash of me on the treadmill and my puff flying across the room. So now it's me against the puff :angry2:

....Im looking at it and it's looking at me and I knew it was not going to end good for one of us :catfight:

...needless to say I lost this battle ladies .Back to one of my faithful buns I go.

sexypebbly · Sep 2, 2017

Found an aloe leaf yesterday and I'm so excited to use it. Been looking for it for a awhile and find it at a food town.

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