Daily Moisturizers W/keratin?

Froreal3 · Dec 24, 2017

Any recommendations? I'm finding my hair likes protein on a more consistent basis. Wheat, Oat and all those others are moisturizing for my hair and are not strong enough. It needs keratin on a more consistent basis.

I've been using Colorful Neutral Protein Filler under my DC weekly after I shampoo. Also I've been using Redken Anti-Snap as a leave in (has wheat protein I believe), but want to try It's a 10 plus Keratin in its place. However, as far as I know, leave ins are really just for wash days, so I wouldn't want to use the leave in during the week to re-moisturize.

I want to know if there are any moisturizers with keratin in them that I can use to moisturize every three to four days in between washes.

TIA!

Soaring Eagle · Dec 24, 2017

Thanks for starting this thread. I have been looking for leave ins/ moisturizers that contain keratin as well.
In the past I have used Shea Moisture JBCO, but I don’t like the way it makes my hair feel anymore. Currently, I use Xcel21 spray underneath SCurl. It has been working well, but I am open to other options if there are better out there.

Froreal3 · Dec 24, 2017

Soaring Eagle said:
Thanks for starting this thread. I have been looking for leave ins/ moisturizers that contain keratin as well.
In the past I have used Shea Moisture JBCO, but I don’t like the way it makes my hair feel anymore. Currently, I use Xcel21 spray underneath SCurl. It has been working well, but I am open to other options if there are better out there.

I was using Xcel21 for a hot minute when that thread first started. Is it considered a daily moisturizer? If so, I might go back to it. I was thinking more along the lines of a lotion or cream with keratin. We have a ton of things that are protein free because a lot of us are protein sensitive, but now me. No ma'am. My fine hair becomes overly soft and the ends tend to shed and break when I just twist it if it doesn't have it's dose of protein.

ETA: I remember using Aphogee Keratin & Green Tea Reconstructurizer on a consistent basis in the beginning of my hair journey and I remember my hair feeling strong feeling, but soft. At the time, I thought that strong feeling was bad, so I stopped using it. Now I know that my hair needs to be in that condition again. But then again, this product is not a moisturizer at all...

Soaring Eagle · Dec 24, 2017

Froreal3 said:
I was using Xcel21 for a hot minute when that thread first started. Is it considered a daily moisturizer? If so, I might go back to it. I was thinking more along the lines of a lotion or cream with keratin. We have a ton of things that are protein free because a lot of us are protein sensitive, but now me. No ma'am. My fine hair becomes overly soft and the ends tend to shed and break when I just twist it if it doesn't have it's dose of protein.

I know that xcel has a cream version. Both the spray and cream can be used on the length of the hair. The spray claims to be a detangler that stops split ends and breakage, so it’s not just for growth. I wouldn’t call it a moisturizer though, which is why I top it with SCurl. I have never tried the cream, but I have seen people post about using it on their ends/length before sealing— I think I saw this in the 2017 Luscious Ends thread.

Froreal3 · Dec 24, 2017

Soaring Eagle said:
I know that xcel has a cream version. Both the spray and cream can be used on the length of the hair. The spray claims to be a detangler that stops split ends and breakage, so it’s not just for growth. I wouldn’t call it a moisturizer though, which is why I top it with SCurl. I have never tried the cream, but I have seen people post about using it on their ends before sealing.

Actually I had the cream before too. It doubles as a DC, although I didn't like how it performed as a DC...I might need to revisit that. I have to remember if it left any residue in my hair. I hate residue. I also have the curling styler stuff of Xcel as well. :lol:

I'm a recovering pj...so yeah.

NaturallyATLPCH · Dec 24, 2017

I will be following this thread.
I wonder if APB can add some Hydrolized Keratin to the Hair Creams? I would be in heaven if she could.

As you know, I am no where near protein sensitive. Lack of regular protein I believe over the years has hindered my hair's potential.

Froreal3 · Dec 24, 2017

NaturallyATLPCH said:
I will be following this thread.
I wonder if APB can add some Hydrolized Keratin to the Hair Creams? I would be in heaven if she could.

As you know, I am no where near protein sensitive. Lack of regular protein I believe over the years has hindered my hair's potential.

Same here. I was too focused on moisture. When I was using Komaza Protein Strengthener on a consistent basis, my hair was better for it. I was only using it every two weeks. I think it should have been weekly. That was like a mild protein for me. I could use it without any moisturizing DC to followup. The Colorful is easier to get my hands on though so I've been using that. I've never tried the Aphogee 2 Step.

NaturallyATLPCH · Dec 24, 2017

Froreal3 said:
Same here. I was too focused on moisture. When I was using Komaza Protein Strengthener on a consistent basis, my hair was better for it. I was only using it every two weeks. I think it should have been weekly. That was like a mild protein for me. I could use it without any moisturizing DC to followup. The Colorful is easier to get my hands on though so I've been using that. I've never tried the Aphogee 2 Step.

Aphogee (step 1) was what I would use quarterly and it would get the job done. The smell however, was not enough for me to use it more frequently :lachen:

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Soaring Eagle · Dec 25, 2017

Bumping!

LushLox · Dec 25, 2017

NaturallyATLPCH said:
I will be following this thread.
I wonder if APB can add some Hydrolized Keratin to the Hair Creams? I would be in heaven if she could.

As you know, I am no where near protein sensitive. Lack of regular protein I believe over the years has hindered my hair's potential.

Agreed, my hair thrives on protein but I haven't used it consistently for the last couple of years, only sporadically. Big mistake, my hair has improved since I've been giving it a regular dose even just with using leave ins.

Jetblackhair · Dec 26, 2017

Seyani Whipped Hair Butter by She Scent It contains Hydrolized Wheat Protein. Per the website it says, "Won't weight down your tresses so it works well on thin fine strands." It strengthens and moisturizes.

mzteaze · Dec 26, 2017

Maybe try:
Hydratherma Naturals Protein Balance Leave-In treatment

If you can find it, Joico K-Pak Liquid Reconstructor (I wouldn't use it daily though). If you go this route, spray on hair then use a creamy product on top.

NaturallyATLPCH · Dec 26, 2017

mzteaze said:
Maybe try:
Hydratherma Naturals Protein Balance Leave-In treatment

If you can find it, Joico K-Pak Liquid Reconstructor (I wouldn't use it daily though). If you go this route, spray on hair then use a creamy product on top.

I bought this to use (used it this past wash day) again after stopping use of it in the past (thought I would get protein overload). I will be keeping this in constant rotation because my hair liked it before. It will be my go to leave in.

mzteaze · Dec 26, 2017

One more that comes to mind is:

It's a 10! leave in conditioner (the original one) has silk proteins in it. It has great slip and is really nice on the hair. They also have a keratin line as well.

NaturallyATLPCH · Dec 26, 2017

CHI also has a Keratin Leave In I used to use for roller sets.

What I am going to do is since I cleanse three days a week, I am going to apply a protein based liquid leave in before I apply my hair creams. I usually cleanse then apply a moisturizing hair cream to twist. I twist only because I do not like going to bed with a wet head.

I have an APB Refresher Spray, I might throw in some Colorful Neutral Protein filler to it since I spray a liquid leave in before my creams.

If I wanted to grow my hair out I would make this a challenge. I might still do it for overall hair health.

hothair · Dec 27, 2017

Signing in here. My hair loves protein. I don't know about a leave in. I use jplex weekly. Similar to olaplex no.2

I got the shea moisture jbco but my hair feels weird trying to finish it up and try a mielles leave in

Froreal3 · Dec 27, 2017

I'm gonna continue with the Redken Anti Snap leave in. Might try the Chi Keratin Mist or the Chi Keratin Leave in as well. I will just layer these underneath a regular cream moisturizer with some Shea Butter mix to seal. I also ordered the Schwarzkopf Bonacure Repair Rescue Sealed Ends from Amazon (hopefully it's not a dupe) which has keratin in it and it's like a serum oily thing I read.

NaturallyATLPCH · Dec 28, 2017

I have started a protein challenge if you guys want to join.

Soaring Eagle · Dec 28, 2017

Froreal3 said:
ETA: I remember using Aphogee Keratin & Green Tea Reconstructurizer on a consistent basis in the beginning of my hair journey and I remember my hair feeling strong feeling, but soft. At the time, I thought that strong feeling was bad, so I stopped using it. Now I know that my hair needs to be in that condition again. But then again, this product is not a moisturizer at all...

Did you know that the ingredients for this have completely changed? I went into the store today to pick it up and there was absolutely no keratin anywhere to be found,matter a fact there was no Hydrolyzed protein present.

Here are the new ingredients I found on naturally curly (same as the one in the store): Aqua (Purified Water), Arctium Lappa (Burdock Root), Urtica Diotica (Nettle Leaf), Cetyl Alcohol, Cetrimonium Chloride, Quaternium-80, Cyclopentasiloxane, Dimethicone, Glyceryl Stearate, Silk Protein, D,L-Panthenol, Simmondsia Chinesis (Jojoba) Seed Oil, Stearyl Alcohol, Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate, Polysorbate-80, Citric Acid, Essential Oils.

Old ingredients: Water, Hydrolyzed Keratin, Hydrolyzed Silk, Green Tea (Camellia Sinensis)Extract, Glycine Alanine, Cocamidopropyl Hydroxysultaine, Cetrimonium Chloride,PVP, Citric Acid, Fragrance, FD&C Red #40, D&C Green #5, FD&C Yellow#6.

Giving Aphogee the side eye right about now.

InBloom · Dec 28, 2017

Mielle Organics has a peony leave-in and I believe there is keratin in it. It’s a thin cream but in a spritz bottle. My hair loves it. I find it at Sally’s.

NaturallyATLPCH · Dec 28, 2017

Wow! They took the hydrolized keratin out AND added a cone.

Dee-Licious · Dec 29, 2017

Soaring Eagle said:
Did you know that the ingredients for this have completely changed? I went into the store today to pick it up and there was absolutely no keratin anywhere to be found,matter a fact there was no Hydrolyzed protein present.

Here are the new ingredients I found on naturally curly (same as the one in the store): Aqua (Purified Water), Arctium Lappa (Burdock Root), Urtica Diotica (Nettle Leaf), Cetyl Alcohol, Cetrimonium Chloride, Quaternium-80, Cyclopentasiloxane, Dimethicone, Glyceryl Stearate, Silk Protein, D,L-Panthenol, Simmondsia Chinesis (Jojoba) Seed Oil, Stearyl Alcohol, Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate, Polysorbate-80, Citric Acid, Essential Oils.

Old ingredients: Water, Hydrolyzed Keratin, Hydrolyzed Silk, Green Tea (Camellia Sinensis)Extract, Glycine Alanine, Cocamidopropyl Hydroxysultaine, Cetrimonium Chloride,PVP, Citric Acid, Fragrance, FD&C Red #40, D&C Green #5, FD&C Yellow#6.

Giving Aphogee the side eye right about now.

And this thread was making me think about revisiting it. Smh

Froreal3 · Dec 29, 2017

Soaring Eagle said:
Did you know that the ingredients for this have completely changed? I went into the store today to pick it up and there was absolutely no keratin anywhere to be found,matter a fact there was no Hydrolyzed protein present.

Here are the new ingredients I found on naturally curly (same as the one in the store): Aqua (Purified Water), Arctium Lappa (Burdock Root), Urtica Diotica (Nettle Leaf), Cetyl Alcohol, Cetrimonium Chloride, Quaternium-80, Cyclopentasiloxane, Dimethicone, Glyceryl Stearate, Silk Protein, D,L-Panthenol, Simmondsia Chinesis (Jojoba) Seed Oil, Stearyl Alcohol, Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate, Polysorbate-80, Citric Acid, Essential Oils.

Old ingredients: Water, Hydrolyzed Keratin, Hydrolyzed Silk, Green Tea (Camellia Sinensis)Extract, Glycine Alanine, Cocamidopropyl Hydroxysultaine, Cetrimonium Chloride,PVP, Citric Acid, Fragrance, FD&C Red #40, D&C Green #5, FD&C Yellow#6.

Giving Aphogee the side eye right about now.

What kinda mess?! So Wth does it still have Keratin in the name?

PJaye · Dec 29, 2017

Soaring Eagle said:
Did you know that the ingredients for this have completely changed? I went into the store today to pick it up and there was absolutely no keratin anywhere to be found,matter a fact there was no Hydrolyzed protein present.

Here are the new ingredients I found on naturally curly (same as the one in the store): Aqua (Purified Water), Arctium Lappa (Burdock Root), Urtica Diotica (Nettle Leaf), Cetyl Alcohol, Cetrimonium Chloride, Quaternium-80, Cyclopentasiloxane, Dimethicone, Glyceryl Stearate, Silk Protein, D,L-Panthenol, Simmondsia Chinesis (Jojoba) Seed Oil, Stearyl Alcohol, Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate, Polysorbate-80, Citric Acid, Essential Oils.

Old ingredients: Water, Hydrolyzed Keratin, Hydrolyzed Silk, Green Tea (Camellia Sinensis)Extract, Glycine Alanine, Cocamidopropyl Hydroxysultaine, Cetrimonium Chloride,PVP, Citric Acid, Fragrance, FD&C Red #40, D&C Green #5, FD&C Yellow#6.

Giving Aphogee the side eye right about now.

After seeing your post, I checked the bottle that I have and these are the ingredients (FWIW, this would be the product's second formula change):

Water, Green Tea Extract, Hydrolyzed Vegetable Protein, PG-Propyl Silanetriol, Trimethylsiloxy-Amodimethicone, Buriti Oil, Panthenol, Phytantriol, Vitamin E, Hydrolyzed Silk, Hydrolyzed Keratin, Glycine, Alanine, PVP, Glycerin, Cocamidopropyl Hydroxysultaine, Cetrimonium Chloride, Isoceteth-20, C11-15 Pareth-7, C12-16 Pareth-9, Trideceth-12, Citric Acid, Fragrance (Parfum), Limonene

Soaring Eagle · Dec 29, 2017

PJaye said:
After seeing your post, I checked the bottle that I have and these are the ingredients (FWIW, this would be the product's second formula change):

Water, Green Tea Extract, Hydrolyzed Vegetable Protein, PG-Propyl Silanetriol, Trimethylsiloxy-Amodimethicone, Buriti Oil, Panthenol, Phytantriol, Vitamin E, Hydrolyzed Silk, Hydrolyzed Keratin, Glycine, Alanine, PVP, Glycerin, Cocamidopropyl Hydroxysultaine, Cetrimonium Chloride, Isoceteth-20, C11-15 Pareth-7, C12-16 Pareth-9, Trideceth-12, Citric Acid, Fragrance (Parfum), Limonene

What in the world..... I don’t even know what to say. I’m hoping that the one you listed is the latest, because the one I saw in store makes no sense.

BrownSkinQT · Jan 9, 2018

Soaring Eagle said:
Did you know that the ingredients for this have completely changed? I went into the store today to pick it up and there was absolutely no keratin anywhere to be found,matter a fact there was no Hydrolyzed protein present.

Here are the new ingredients I found on naturally curly (same as the one in the store): Aqua (Purified Water), Arctium Lappa (Burdock Root), Urtica Diotica (Nettle Leaf), Cetyl Alcohol, Cetrimonium Chloride, Quaternium-80, Cyclopentasiloxane, Dimethicone, Glyceryl Stearate, Silk Protein, D,L-Panthenol, Simmondsia Chinesis (Jojoba) Seed Oil, Stearyl Alcohol, Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate, Polysorbate-80, Citric Acid, Essential Oils.

Old ingredients: Water, Hydrolyzed Keratin, Hydrolyzed Silk, Green Tea (Camellia Sinensis)Extract, Glycine Alanine, Cocamidopropyl Hydroxysultaine, Cetrimonium Chloride,PVP, Citric Acid, Fragrance, FD&C Red #40, D&C Green #5, FD&C Yellow#6.

Giving Aphogee the side eye right about now.

That stinks. I just bought a bottle the other day.

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