Starbucks Discrimination

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Christina Dior

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mensa said:
Not to hijack this thread but, I often see White folks adopt Black kids but I've never seen a Black family adopt White kids. Am I alone?
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I’m not sure. I have not seen much talk about that angle, especially when you consider the theories that black children are twice as likely to be taken from their parents and more likely to be abused by their parents.
 
ThirdEyeBeauty

ThirdEyeBeauty

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mensa said:
Not to hijack this thread but, I often see White folks adopt Black kids but I've never seen a Black family adopt White kids. Am I alone?
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I, too, know for a fact that it happens. It does not happen often. They are more likely to have that happen because the child is in foster care first or the couple is interracial. There are other scenarios for it to happen to.
 
Philippians413

Philippians413

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mensa said:
Not to hijack this thread but, I often see White folks adopt Black kids but I've never seen a Black family adopt White kids. Am I alone?
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My (distant) cousin has two. She and her husband were foster parents and adopted all of the kids in their care that they could. I believe all of their other kids, about four, are Black. I’ve seen other white kids who were adopted by their Black foster parents too.
 
MzLady78

MzLady78

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Ms. Tarabotti said:
Can we help you and your family in some way? Do you think that this is in retaliation for something or just 'whites being white?'
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It's definitely whites being white.

They are very, very pro-Black, and their business is all about Black culture and entrepreneurship. The area it's in used to be one where whites wouldn't be caught dead but of course, we know what happened there. So it's definitely an intimidation tactic, but one that will fail without a doubt.

If I hear of anything people who aren't local can do to support, I will definitely come back and post. And thank you for asking.
 
ThirdEyeBeauty

ThirdEyeBeauty

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IslandMummy said:
We foster them at high rates. Just aren’t going viral with it.
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That's right. Some white people have to make a scene about it. You may barely know them or not know them at all but maybe sitting waiting for something and they try to find a way to make the conversation bring up their children so they can show you pictures. With black people you just never know. You would think the person with the children is the hired help taking the kids on an outing when they are actually the parent.
 
Philippians413

Philippians413

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Starbucks Chairman Wants to See ‘Reconciliation’ Between Manager and Two Black Men; Says She’s Suffered In Her Own Way

“I think for her, she is suffering in her own way,” he told King. “I think she recognizes that perhaps that calls shouldn’t have been made … I don’t think she intended when she made the call for the police to arrive and arrest the two men.”

http://atlantablackstar.com/2018/04...manager-two-black-men-says-shes-suffered-way/

 
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MzLady78

MzLady78

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Philippians413 said:
Starbucks Chairman Wants to See ‘Reconciliation’ Between Manager and Two Black Men; Says She’s Suffered In Her Own Way

“I think for her, she is suffering in her own way,” he told King. “I think she recognizes that perhaps that calls shouldn’t have been made … I don’t think she intended when she made the call for the police to arrive and arrest the two men.”

http://atlantablackstar.com/2018/04...manager-two-black-men-says-shes-suffered-way/

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Are you kidding me with this BS?

I can't right now.
 
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Shula

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IslandMummy said:
We foster them at high rates. Just aren’t going viral with it.
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This is true. I know a SINGLE black woman fostering 3 very young white children. I would say the two oldest are about 3-5 and the youngest is a brand spanking newborn. I think the children are siblings.
 
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TrueBeliever

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Kimbosheart said:
In short, I don't find him an effective spokesperson. I do understand that he is trying to become our next gen civil rights leader and I respect that. I can also imagine that his presence is comforting to the victim's families but the law is very strategic in these cases and I prefer a more subtle approach and finesse. Save the theatrics and grandstanding for the jury.
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That, and the fact that he needs a speech therapist to correct his diction/grammar.
 
IslandMummy

IslandMummy

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Philippians413 said:
Starbucks Chairman Wants to See ‘Reconciliation’ Between Manager and Two Black Men; Says She’s Suffered In Her Own Way

“I think for her, she is suffering in her own way,” he told King. “I think she recognizes that perhaps that calls shouldn’t have been made … I don’t think she intended when she made the call for the police to arrive and arrest the two men.”

http://atlantablackstar.com/2018/04...manager-two-black-men-says-shes-suffered-way/

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Save a Becky. Yeah she’s suffering alright, her own people dragged her racist tail for filth not to mention everyone else. She can kick flipping rocks or choke.
 
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frida1980

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IslandMummy said:
We foster them at high rates. Just aren’t going viral with it.
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It’s true.

When a white person adopts a black child, they act like they saved our entire race by doing it. They make blogs, do interviews, and trot that kid out like it’s the lastest designer bag. How many times have we heard, “If we didn’t adopt her, who knows what would’ve happened to her?” And with international adoptions it’s so much worse.

Black people foster and adopt white kids all the time. These are often times kids white people don’t have the patience for. Kids with emotional issues, etc. Their not as glamourous to show off.
 
Shimmie

Shimmie

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Philippians413 said:
Starbucks Chairman Wants to See ‘Reconciliation’ Between Manager and Two Black Men; Says She’s Suffered In Her Own Way

“I think for her, she is suffering in her own way,” he told King. “I think she recognizes that perhaps that calls shouldn’t have been made … I don’t think she intended when she made the call for the police to arrive and arrest the two men.”

http://atlantablackstar.com/2018/04...manager-two-black-men-says-shes-suffered-way/

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But she CALLED the police only 2 (TWO) 2 minutes after they came in. She knew what she was doing and why she did it. TWO minutes.

I'm all for forgiveness, it's scriptural and it's healthy to let go of grudges. She's not worth the energy of holding a grudge. HOWEVER, no one is going to convince me that this so-called manager has suffered other than from being called out for what she did in 'Two Minutes" of when two Black Men walked into the coffee shop. :nono: Just because she suffered doesn't mean she's sorry nor has she changed her view of Black people.
 
Shimmie

Shimmie

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Kimbosheart said:
The chairman who wants the victims to meet with the manager for a reconciliation makes me want to boycott starbucks. He served up a tall glass of white privilege
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I truly understand forgiveness. No one is worth the energy of resentment. I'm all for peace. I do not support unrest, let alone, any type of violence. I don't support hatred. It's not God's love nor His will.

What I don't agree with is treating this woman as if 'she' is the victim. Did she even try to stop the police from arresting these men? Did she even once step in and say, "Officers, it's not that serious. I didn't call for their arrest, I just wanted them to leave." Did she once take a stand and ask for the handcuffs to be removed? Did she go on facebook and apologize for her call?

It's the way that this CEO has made her out to be a victim in this issue which was her doing / her choice. She's the cause of all of this confusion, which resulted with the boycotts, protesting, and store closings. And yet, he wants to protect her. Why? Perhaps the CEO is getting backlash from stockholders, board directors and is now having 2nd thoughts.
 
PatTodd

PatTodd

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natural in ATL said:
I get it. But actually Starbuck profited before I cut them up...they profited when the original buyers purchased the cards (they were gifts given to me). That was the point of my response a few posts back - the amount of money in product they'd spend on me or someone else going in to redeem a gift card is minimal. They've got the money, but they're not getting my time/effort of going into their stores to redeem.
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Or the benefit from any upsale over the value of the card. I get that someone else could benefit from the value of the card, but I won't condone racism, not even to help someone else.

By the way, in light of the story we're discussing, what are the chances a homeless person would be served ANYWAY????
 
IslandMummy

IslandMummy

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PatTodd said:
Or the benefit from any upsale over the value of the card. I get that someone else could benefit from the value of the card, but I won't condone racism, not even to help someone else.

By the way, in light of the story we're discussing, what are the chances a homeless person would be served ANYWAY????
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All the time, my two Starbucks are always open to the panhandlers that camp out at the intersections asking for money.
 
Menina Preta

Menina Preta

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...labama-black-woman-25-arrested-violently.html

Shocking moment Alabama black woman is violently arrested at a Waffle House with three cops pinning her to the ground and telling her 'I'm about to break your arm' after a dispute over plastic utensils costs
By Daniel Roth For Dailymail.com 18:41 EDT 22 Apr 2018, updated 19:11 EDT 22 Apr 2018


Latest From MailOnline
  • The Saraland Police Department have opened an investigation into the arrest of 25-year-old Chikesia Clemons
  • Video of the incident shows officers briefly speaking with a visibly agitated Clemons moments before forcefully pulling her to the ground of a Waffle House
  • In the process of the arrest, footage shows Clemons' top come down, exposing her breasts as patrons continue to eat their food
  • Clemons was booked on charges of disorderly conduct and resisting arrest and placed on $1,000 bond
  • Clemons said that the employee attempted to charge her 50 cents for plastic utensils which she had received free the day before
  • The incident comes amid a national backlash over the arrest of two black men last week at a Philadelphia Starbucks
A police department in Alabama found itself mired in controversy on Sunday after footage showing officers forcefully arrest a young black woman surfaced online.

The Saraland Police Department said that they have opened an investigation into the arrest of 25-year-old Chikesia Clemons early Sunday morning at the Waffle House restaurant on Industry Parkway in Mobile.

Video of the incident shows three officers briefly speaking with a visibly agitated Clemons moments before forcefully pulling her from a chair and pinning her to the ground of the Waffle House.

Police violently arrest a black woman at an Alabama Waffle House



The Saraland Police Department said that they have opened an investigation into the arrest of 25-year-old Chikesia Clemons (Pictured) on Sunday

Video of the incident shows officers briefly speaking with a visibly agitated Clemons moments before forcefully pulling her to the ground of a Waffle House

Clemons was booked on charges of disorderly conduct and resisting arrest and placed on $1000 bond

The Saraland Police Department said that they have opened an investigation into the arrest of 25-year-old Chikesia Clemons (Pictured) on Sunday
'What are you doing?' Clemons asks indignantly as the officers struggle to place Clemons into handcuffs.

'I'll break your arm, that's what I'm about to do,' one of the officers responds.

In the process of the arrest, footage shows Clemons' top come down, exposing her breasts as patrons in the background continue to eat their food.

The incident comes amid a national backlash over the arrest of two black men last week inside a Philadelphia Starbucks after sitting at a table without purchasing any items as they waited for a friend to use the bathroom.


Canita Adams (Pictured), who is Clemon's friend, filmed the incident and uploaded it to social media
The Saraland Police Department report shows that the incident unraveled at 2.45am when Clemons asked a Waffle House employee for plastic utensils after placing an order, according to al.com.

The conversation appeared to escalate after the employee informed Clemons that the plastic cutlery would cost an extra 50 cents.

Clemons, along with her friend Canita Adams - who filmed the incident on her cell phone - were perplexed by the additional fee, informing the employee that they had been at the restaurant the previous evening and were not made to pay an additional charge.

In response, the employee canceled the order, prompting Clemons to ask for the contact information of the Waffle House district manager who oversees the Saraland location, al.com reported.

'They didn't even ask her to leave, she was waiting for them to give her the district manager's card so she could file a complaint on one of the waitresses,' said Clemons' mother, Chiquitta Clemons-Howard.

'When they went to go get the card, that's when the police showed up. The officer should've come in and said we need you to leave,' she added.

Clemons was booked on charges of disorderly conduct and resisting arrest and placed on $1,000 bond.

Following the incident, Mobile NAACP President David Smith said that they plan to hold a demonstration in the parking lot of the Waffle House to protest Clemons' arrest.

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'In light of the current situation in our country - such as the arrest of two young black men at a Philadelphia Starbucks coffee shop - we felt it was important for our members to get a first-hand account of the incident, which has now gone viral on social media locally and across the country,' Smith said.

Spokeswoman with the Saraland Police Department, Det. Collette Little, said in a statement that they have opened a probe into the incident and will release a full report after their investigation is complete.

'The Saraland Police Department is aware of the arrest at Waffle House and the accompanying video on social media,' the statement said.

'The situation is being thoroughly reviewed and is under active investigation right now. Our department strives for transparency and we encourage our community to be aware of current events.'
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I wonder if this will garner the same level of publicity...
 
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frida1980

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Menina Preta said:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...labama-black-woman-25-arrested-violently.html

Shocking moment Alabama black woman is violently arrested at a Waffle House with three cops pinning her to the ground and telling her 'I'm about to break your arm' after a dispute over plastic utensils costs
By Daniel Roth For Dailymail.com 18:41 EDT 22 Apr 2018, updated 19:11 EDT 22 Apr 2018


Latest From MailOnline
  • The Saraland Police Department have opened an investigation into the arrest of 25-year-old Chikesia Clemons
  • Video of the incident shows officers briefly speaking with a visibly agitated Clemons moments before forcefully pulling her to the ground of a Waffle House
  • In the process of the arrest, footage shows Clemons' top come down, exposing her breasts as patrons continue to eat their food
  • Clemons was booked on charges of disorderly conduct and resisting arrest and placed on $1,000 bond
  • Clemons said that the employee attempted to charge her 50 cents for plastic utensils which she had received free the day before
  • The incident comes amid a national backlash over the arrest of two black men last week at a Philadelphia Starbucks
A police department in Alabama found itself mired in controversy on Sunday after footage showing officers forcefully arrest a young black woman surfaced online.

The Saraland Police Department said that they have opened an investigation into the arrest of 25-year-old Chikesia Clemons early Sunday morning at the Waffle House restaurant on Industry Parkway in Mobile.

Video of the incident shows three officers briefly speaking with a visibly agitated Clemons moments before forcefully pulling her from a chair and pinning her to the ground of the Waffle House.

Police violently arrest a black woman at an Alabama Waffle House



The Saraland Police Department said that they have opened an investigation into the arrest of 25-year-old Chikesia Clemons (Pictured) on Sunday

Video of the incident shows officers briefly speaking with a visibly agitated Clemons moments before forcefully pulling her to the ground of a Waffle House

Clemons was booked on charges of disorderly conduct and resisting arrest and placed on $1000 bond

The Saraland Police Department said that they have opened an investigation into the arrest of 25-year-old Chikesia Clemons (Pictured) on Sunday
'What are you doing?' Clemons asks indignantly as the officers struggle to place Clemons into handcuffs.

'I'll break your arm, that's what I'm about to do,' one of the officers responds.

In the process of the arrest, footage shows Clemons' top come down, exposing her breasts as patrons in the background continue to eat their food.

The incident comes amid a national backlash over the arrest of two black men last week inside a Philadelphia Starbucks after sitting at a table without purchasing any items as they waited for a friend to use the bathroom.


Canita Adams (Pictured), who is Clemon's friend, filmed the incident and uploaded it to social media
The Saraland Police Department report shows that the incident unraveled at 2.45am when Clemons asked a Waffle House employee for plastic utensils after placing an order, according to al.com.

The conversation appeared to escalate after the employee informed Clemons that the plastic cutlery would cost an extra 50 cents.

Clemons, along with her friend Canita Adams - who filmed the incident on her cell phone - were perplexed by the additional fee, informing the employee that they had been at the restaurant the previous evening and were not made to pay an additional charge.

In response, the employee canceled the order, prompting Clemons to ask for the contact information of the Waffle House district manager who oversees the Saraland location, al.com reported.

'They didn't even ask her to leave, she was waiting for them to give her the district manager's card so she could file a complaint on one of the waitresses,' said Clemons' mother, Chiquitta Clemons-Howard.

'When they went to go get the card, that's when the police showed up. The officer should've come in and said we need you to leave,' she added.

Clemons was booked on charges of disorderly conduct and resisting arrest and placed on $1,000 bond.

Following the incident, Mobile NAACP President David Smith said that they plan to hold a demonstration in the parking lot of the Waffle House to protest Clemons' arrest.

Related Articles
'In light of the current situation in our country - such as the arrest of two young black men at a Philadelphia Starbucks coffee shop - we felt it was important for our members to get a first-hand account of the incident, which has now gone viral on social media locally and across the country,' Smith said.

Spokeswoman with the Saraland Police Department, Det. Collette Little, said in a statement that they have opened a probe into the incident and will release a full report after their investigation is complete.

'The Saraland Police Department is aware of the arrest at Waffle House and the accompanying video on social media,' the statement said.

'The situation is being thoroughly reviewed and is under active investigation right now. Our department strives for transparency and we encourage our community to be aware of current events.'
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I wonder if this will garner the same level of publicity...
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It won’t. A black man just wrestled a AR 15 from a mass shooter in Waffle House just a few days ago. Activist on my time line have barely mentioned this but focused a lot on him. Black women simply don’t get as much traction, especially if a black man is there to focus on.
 
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