Black Child Left In Hot Vehicle All Day—warning

prettyinpurple

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I didn't realize that the baby was black!

I also don't understand why the mother waited to call 911.

Important question:
Was the child that was successfully dropped off at daycare their biological, white child?
I read that the older child was adopted as well.

It sounds as if the second adoption was pretty recent. Some comments said that maybe he was adjusting to having a second child and went about his normal routine with the older one.

I'm just stating some more facts and other people's opinions, not caping for him.
 

Miss_Luna

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So, the entire ride back the one-year-old didn't make a sound? My nephew is one and makes hella noise. Also, the older one wasn't playing with the baby? He didn't hear the baby make any noises when he got out of the car? Aren't most young kids loud when they are left alone?

He got his bags, waited for an Uber, and didn't think to check if he did everything?

So the mom lied about going to pick the 5 year-old up? Something is shady and I'm over all of these kinds of people.
 

RossBoss

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Update: DCS determined that Barker did not stop at the child's daycare Wednesday morning.

He or his wife, Jenny Barker, would typically take Katera and her five-year-old sister to a daycare facility on Chapel Avenue. From there, the five-year-old would ride a shuttle to her elementary school.

Wednesday morning, Barker was running late, left home shortly before 7:30 a.m., and went directly to the elementary school.

After dropping off the five-year-old, he went home and did not stop at the daycare. He parked the pickup truck in the driveway. He then left for the airport in a ride sharing service and flew out of town on a business trip.



People are saying the 5-year-old is also Black and adopted. Either way, he was negligent.

I'm always suspicious of non-Blacks who ONLY adopt Black children, but I understand Black children languish in foster care longer than others so I can't really say too much about it. I still feel he should be charged with something even if it was truly an honest mistake.
 

Farida

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Update: DCS determined that Barker did not stop at the child's daycare Wednesday morning.

He or his wife, Jenny Barker, would typically take Katera and her five-year-old sister to a daycare facility on Chapel Avenue. From there, the five-year-old would ride a shuttle to her elementary school.

Wednesday morning, Barker was running late, left home shortly before 7:30 a.m., and went directly to the elementary school.

After dropping off the five-year-old, he went home and did not stop at the daycare. He parked the pickup truck in the driveway. He then left for the airport in a ride sharing service and flew out of town on a business trip.



People are saying the 5-year-old is also Black and adopted. Either way, he was negligent.
Ok. So a change in routine which is typical in these types of cases. I always said this would never happen to me but I read a super scary article about why it happens and why they typically don’t prosecute parents for it.

These cases were virtually unheard of back in the day when you could put a car seat in the front passenger seat. They rose exponentially with the use of backseat reat-facing car seats.

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/h...ail-why-parents-forget-their-children-n777076

I cannot find the article I read that made me rethink it all but here is one.

Since both adopted kids are black I am more likely to believe it is an accident.

If the cops cannot find an ulterior motive and this couple is genuine there is no greater punishment than the guilt that comes with something like this...
 

TCatt86

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Ok. So a change in routine which is typical in these types of cases. I always said this would never happen to me but I read a super scary article about why it happens and why they typically don’t prosecute parents for it.

These cases were virtually unheard of back in the day when you could put a car seat in the front passenger seat. They rose exponentially with the use of backseat reat-facing car seats.

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/h...ail-why-parents-forget-their-children-n777076

I cannot find the article I read that made me rethink it all but here is one.

Since both adopted kids are black I am more likely to believe it is an accident.

If the cops cannot find an ulterior motive and this couple is genuine there is no greater punishment than the guilt that comes with something like this...
The change in routine is why I do so much follow up when DS dad is dropping him off. It's not apart of his normal routine. A bad morning or running late can throw things off and I'm not trying experience anything like this.
 

RossBoss

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The change in routine is why I do so much follow up when DS dad is dropping him off. It's not apart of his normal routine. A bad morning or running late can throw things off and I'm not trying experience anything like this.

I like your vigilance in making sure that this does not happen. This is why I say that if the law made the penalty severe enough for doing something like this, the people would be just as careful as you are.
 

werenumber2

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Ok. So a change in routine which is typical in these types of cases. I always said this would never happen to me but I read a super scary article about why it happens and why they typically don’t prosecute parents for it.

These cases were virtually unheard of back in the day when you could put a car seat in the front passenger seat. They rose exponentially with the use of backseat reat-facing car seats.

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/h...ail-why-parents-forget-their-children-n777076

I cannot find the article I read that made me rethink it all but here is one.

Since both adopted kids are black I am more likely to believe it is an accident.

If the cops cannot find an ulterior motive and this couple is genuine there is no greater punishment than the guilt that comes with something like this...

I think I read the same article and it was heartbreaking. Everyone says it could never happen to them until it does.
 

toinette

Tricking the president
I like your vigilance in making sure that this does not happen. This is why I say that if the law made the penalty severe enough for doing something like this, the people would be just as careful as you are.

You think people would be more deterred by the thought of jail time than at the thought that they would be responsible for the death of their own child and the lifetime of guilt and shame they would have to carry with them? Countless studies have shown that a change in routine is the most likely precursor to these incidents and everyone always thinks they're immune. ..until they're not and they're the ones who just killed their baby. @TCatt86 honestly has the best idea in these cases. If mom and dad know there will be a switch up, the other parent has to be diligent in making sure that they phone to follow up and also phone the school to make sure the child was dropped off.
 

momi

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I try to empathize with folks but I just cannot understand anyone forgetting about an entire CHILD. Ain't that much too busy had a lot on on my mind not my normal route in the world.

I'm thinking about my children all of the time - wondering and praying about their well-being - checking on them and two are grown. I just don't get it.

I could be way off the mark but if these children aren't left in the cars intentionally it must be some type of subconsciously guided situation.

Now grandparents nearing dementia I can somewhat empathize with....I guess.
 

DeepBluSea

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Let’s say he dropped the older child directly at school. It still sounds fishy. That’s another opportunity for him to notice the other child. My older son always says bye to “his baby” when he gets out the car. Now she’s older she’s yelling have a nice day to him. Plus teachers opening doors in the carpool lane usually will wave to the baby. Say hi cutie.

If he went directly in the school to drop the kid off then did he leave the baby in the car while signing the other kid in?

FYI this is a gentrified neighborhood. There are spotty bad areas. Definitely would have my guard up with a kid.

I’m not buying it.
 

Mooney72

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The Pulitzer Prize winning article was titled ''Fatal Distraction'' and appeared in the Washington Post. I cannot copy it becuase I have used up all my free WP articles this month and it's behind a pay wall for me. Should be easy enough to find a copy. It really changed my mind about judging (most) of the parents who have left their children in cars to die.
 

nyeredzi

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This particular case is suspect to me because he dropped one kid off but they were both back there and both go to the same daycare. But I do believe the majority of people who say they forgot actually did.

When I was pregnant with my first, I heard a news story on the radio while driving to work, I think on NPR. They played the 911 call of a mother after she came back to find her baby in the car. Maybe that woman was an excellent actress, but the wild panic and pain in her call made me tear up. I became really afraid this might happen to me.

I think one way to make this less likely is to incorporate checking on the child into your routine. So that it becomes part of that autopilot. Now I always just check. Even if I go to lunch at work, I still check in the middle of the day, though I already checked in the morning. After I get out I always look back there. Also to prevent accidentally locking them in, once I strap one or both back there, I roll down the back window until I can get in the driver’s seat. So in case I dropped my keys or the door locks automatically, I can reach through the window and open the door
 

NijaG

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@nyeredzi

Yeah..... I do the same thing with the car doors. A window down or one of the doors open until everyone is in the car.

If there is a change in routine, e.g. the non-regular daycare/school dropping/pickup Parent having to perform that duty, then the regular parent should be checking in with the other one just to make sure things went smoothly.
 

MamaBear2012

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I do follow ups too if our routine changes. DH forgets his wallet going to the store. He'll walk out of the house without his keys. So changing up a routine, yeah, I'm calling him.

I also don't have tinted windows. When I pick up DD from school, people are like, "I was waving at you yesterday," and I'm telling you, so many people forget that their windows are tinted and it's hard to see in. Sometimes these types of cases are prevented (a parent running into the store) when other people walk by and can see a child unattended.
 

Reinventing21

Spreading my wings
The only thing that bothers me these days about this tragedy is that there has been so much attention to kids dying in cars, research etc., that you would think by now parents would take serious steps to prevent this as some of you (myself included), esp. where temperatures range the extreme. It is a real thing to forget/get distracted. Mental/physical fatigue from newborns esp., is no joke. However, mow more than ever society is providing /teaching ways to avoid leaving a child in a car.
 

Cheleigh

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I was paranoid about this when my kid was a baby, so I feel like I was pretty anal about checking the car seat before getting out of the car, putting my purse back there, etc., but I can totally see how it can happen, especially with rear-facing car seats. Some of these giant rear-facing seats hide the baby entirely, and kids fall asleep in this monster seats all the time.

I remember one the daycare called me because no one had picked-up our daughter. As others have said--change in routine, and DH and I got our wires crossed about who was picking up the kid. And I think about my kid all the time, but I don't always think about WHERE she is. More recently, I had a long day at church, and got on the church shuttle to get my car. I realized right before the shuttle left that my kid was still in children's church. Again, it was a change in routine, because usually my DH brings her during my long church days. But he was out of town so I had her all day.

Not sure why folks think the mom was in on it. Unless she's a sociopath, finding your child dying/dead in your own driveway has to be one of the seven rings of hell. She trusted her husband to get the kids to school, like he's done repeatedly. Maybe he doesn't often take flights for work or something, because he's the one who changed the routine, not the wife.
 

Philippians413

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The only thing that bothers me these days about this tragedy is that there has been so much attention to kids dying in cars, research etc., that you would think by now parents would take serious steps to prevent this as some of you (myself included), esp. where temperatures range the extreme. It is a real thing to forget/get distracted. Mental/physical fatigue from newborns esp., is no joke. However, mow more than ever society is providing /teaching ways to avoid leaving a child in a car.

I agree, and have the same sentiments regarding kids and pools.
 

Farida

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It doesn’t matter how much attention is brought to the issue. Most people don’t believe it will happen to them so they don’t do anything about it.

I see some people say to put your purse or something in the back seat. But if a person can forget a whole human what makes you think the person will remember to leave a purse or shoe in the back to begin with.

It helps to have one of those car seat mirrors so you can always see the kid when you scan your rearview mirror as you drive.

This issue was much rarer before rear-facing seats. Some people have even wondered if the number of kids forgotten exceeds the number of kids who would be injured in the front passenger seat (especially since the newer cars have sensors which turn off the airbags). I guess we won’t ever really know.
 

Atthatday

Every knee shall bow...


11-Year-Old Invents Device to Help Prevent Leaving Children In Hot Cars


June 28, 2017:

So Bishop, in his McKinney, Texas home, drew a mock-up of a device that would sense if a child is left alone in a car. The device, attached to a headrest or car seat, would then alert parents' phones and the police — all while blowing cold air until help arrives.

He calls the device "Oasis."

"It's like texting," Bishop said. "But without emojis."

His dad, an engineer at Toyota also named Bishop Curry, was immediately sold on the idea: "My thought was, 'Why isn't this in stores now?'"

Toyota was so impressed by Bishop's idea that it sent him and his dad to Michigan for a safety conference.

For all the attention, Bishop won't soon forget the tragedy that inspired his invention.

Fern, the 6-month-old baby girl who had died in an overheated car, lived nearby. Bishop passed by her family's house all the time on the way to school.

Since the tragic incident, Bishop has met with Fern's parents.

"They really supported me," he said. "They didn't want anything [like that] to happen to any other families."

Since 1994, 804 children have died from heat-related illnesses in cars in the U.S., according to Kids and Cars, an advocacy center that studies the issue.

In approximately 55 percent of those cases, the parent was unaware the child was in the vehicle, they say.
 

TCatt86

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It doesn’t matter how much attention is brought to the issue. Most people don’t believe it will happen to them so they don’t do anything about it.

I see some people say to put your purse or something in the back seat. But if a person can forget a whole human what makes you think the person will remember to leave a purse or shoe in the back to begin with.

It helps to have one of those car seat mirrors so you can always see the kid when you scan your rearview mirror as you drive.

This issue was much rarer before rear-facing seats. Some people have even wondered if the number of kids forgotten exceeds the number of kids who would be injured in the front passenger seat (especially since the newer cars have sensors which turn off the airbags). I guess we won’t ever really know.
yes. I was going to say that. Most parents think they would never forget their kids and most don't but it just takes one time. A change in routine which throws off everything. That's why I include so many verifications. I also check my backseat every time I get out of the car. Even when I don't have my son.

I don't believe the number of children dying from these tragedies is more than ones who die from accidents while in carseats. Just like they did a big "back to sleep" push for infants they should do something similar for these car deaths
 
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