Teen Boy Killed In Bronx Bodega

Theresamonet

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It was a lose-lose situation for the bodega owner. This is a neighborhood overrun with gangs and violence. If some young guy runs into your business, jumping behind your counters, because the boogeyman is chasing him, I doubt most people’s instinct would be to harbor him. I know I’d be trying to get him, and whatever is coming his way, far from me and those I hold dear.

I think people should also keep in mind that the store owners, nor the people in the neighborhood witnessing this go down, had the backstory that we have. They don’t know that this is a case of mistaken identity, 15 year old boy, etc... All they see is gang violence erupting out of nowhere, once again.
 

TCatt86

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My first instinct is that they were wrong and are terrible human beings. At the same time, just like with people who don't snitch...they have to live or work in that neighborhood. They may have feared retaliation against them or their families which happens a lot with gangs. I like to think I would do the right thing, no question, but it's easy for me to say from my couch in my safe neighborhood, kwim?
It's definitely tough. But I saw the video of him coming in after he was stabbed , bleeding, asking for assistance. And they kicked him out like he was trash. These are people who knew his mother when she was pregnant with him. if there's someone coming to me bleeding. I'm not going to kick them out of my store. Who knows if he could've survived the attack but what I do know is him running to the hospital, like people wwre telling him, killed him faster.

What's sad is i know if tge store was full of women they would have cared for him but men...just pathetic.
 

danniegirl

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It was all over IG. I regret hitting play cause I didn't see the kids having sex in the background--behind the look-alike. Its child porn.

Omg thankfully i never see this stuff on instagram ...my algorithm just have me seeing black power stiff, natural hair, power lifting , cross training, salads and t shirts with words on them.

Unless i search for other stuff i never ever see it oddly not even celeb stuff. I use to find it odd but i just go with it now. Im kind of greatful but low key think i be missing all the social stuff on social media

I hope they take that video down
 

MWilson569

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This murder really disturbed me. My heart is distressed when I think about how fearful that child must have been right before his death. I have no pity for the store owners. I don't care how scared they may claim. 911 should have been called without hesitation. You don' need to know a back story. The fact that there was a child stabbed, bleeding and pleading for help is all the incentive needed. My heart truly aches for that poor innocent child.
 

Brit031586

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It was a lose-lose situation for the bodega owner. This is a neighborhood overrun with gangs and violence. If some young guy runs into your business, jumping behind your counters, because the boogeyman is chasing him, I doubt most people’s instinct would be to harbor him. I know I’d be trying to get him, and whatever is coming his way, far from me and those I hold dear.

I think people should also keep in mind that the store owners, nor the people in the neighborhood witnessing this go down, had the backstory that we have. They don’t know that this is a case of mistaken identity, 15 year old boy, etc... All they see is gang violence erupting out of nowhere, once again.

This is all true but Juniors mom said the bodega workers knew her son which is why she didnt understand y they did nothing not even call the police
 

Layluh

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This is all true but Juniors mom said the bodega workers knew her son which is why she didnt understand y they did nothing not even call the police

yeah i can understand the first time. id be like get outta heree with this foolishness too. im sure stuff happens everyday there and theyve been knowing everyone in the barrio since they were 5. some grow up to be decent people, others not so much. another one bites the dust.

but when he came through drippin in blood the 2nd time?...i know they knew those dudes were gone. give him a ice pack. towel. something. Honestly, i think if just one woman were in that store that night, her maternal instinct woulda kicked in. that behavior was disgusting.
 

Tamrin

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yeah i can understand the first time. id be like get outta heree with this foolishness too. im sure stuff happens everyday there and theyve been knowing everyone in the barrio since they were 5. some grow up to be decent people, others not so much. another one bites the dust.

but when he came through drippin in blood the 2nd time?...i know they knew those dudes were gone. give him a ice pack. towel. something. Honestly, i think if just one woman were in that store that night, her maternal instinct woulda kicked in. that behavior was disgusting.

I finally saw the 2nd part of the video. When he came in all stabbed up looking for help, they turned him away. They deserve jail time. Omg. This is so disgusting.
 
It was a lose-lose situation for the bodega owner. This is a neighborhood overrun with gangs and violence. If some young guy runs into your business, jumping behind your counters, because the boogeyman is chasing him, I doubt most people’s instinct would be to harbor him. I know I’d be trying to get him, and whatever is coming his way, far from me and those I hold dear.

I think people should also keep in mind that the store owners, nor the people in the neighborhood witnessing this go down, had the backstory that we have. They don’t know that this is a case of mistaken identity, 15 year old boy, etc... All they see is gang violence erupting out of nowhere, once again.

Yup
Bodega's are Switzerland...they never get involved with anything going on in the streets and they kick everyone out if something goes down. They stay neutral, they don't see anything don't say anything and they are not going to give the police their surveillance camera footage.


The business owner has lose his livelihood but the Trinitarios in the neighborhood get to keep operating without impunity like ish is sweet? It's easier to blame the store owner than for everyone to look at their family and friends and get them locked up.

The community watched Junior get cut up as well, if they were scared to address the Trinitarios, why does the bodega owner gotta do it?
 

Layluh

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There’s so much tea on instagram. :eek:
But I feel like the best tea is all in Spanish though which I’m not fluent in. I can get the gist of what they’re saying but not the nitty gritty
 

FriscoGirl

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There’s so much tea on instagram. :eek:
But I feel like the best tea is all in Spanish though which I’m not fluent in. I can get the gist of what they’re saying but not the nitty gritty

Can you share a hashtag or snippet of what you’ve read so far?
 

Layluh

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Can you share a hashtag or snippet of what you’ve read so far?

Sure just look up #trinitario and #trinitarios on ig.
It’s all in the comment sections. Or anything having to do with #lesandro

Og blakii on Facebook

One of the gang members is carnelitomc (or something close to it). He has one pic with his sister. Another ones on there but I forgot his name.

People think they found the girls dad on ig(don’t know if he is or not), now they’re harassing him.
 

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Layluh

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Accused Trinitarios gang member admits to his role in vicious mistaken-identity stabbing that left teen dead
By KHADIJA HUSSAIN and JANON FISHER
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
JUN 29, 2018 | 1:00 AM



A 15-year-old teen was attacked and stabbed in the neck by a group of men with machetes.




The reputed Trinitarios gang member seen dragging Lesandro (Junior) Guzman-Feliz from a bodega so the rest of the street crew could hack and stab the boy to death admitted on Thursday that he took part in the attack in an exclusive jailhouse interview.

Kevin Alvarez, 19, ’fessed up to being the guy in a black hat, white T-shirt and jeans seen on video surveillance pulling the 15-year-old from the Fordham Heights store with both hands, but says he didn’t know his buddies had machetes and knives and he didn’t think they would kill the boy.


“I thought it was just going to be a fight when I came out the store and I turned around and saw the machetes,” Alvarez said during an hour-long interview behind bars.

It was more than a fight, though. Lesandro was buried Wednesday after eight men, including Alvarez, trapped him in the Cruz and Chiky Grocery, then ripped him from the store and stabbed him to death.


Alvarez, a Bronx native with a 3-year-old son, thought he was heading to a party with some guys he only recently started hanging out with. He knew they were Trinitarios — he even knew they were known to carry machetes — but says he wasn’t involved in the notorious Dominican gang.

NYPD to offer $5,000 scholarships to honor slain Lesandro Guzman-Feliz »

Kevin Alvarez, 19, appears at his arraignment in Bronx Criminal Court on Monday, June 25, 2018. Alvarez is charged with murder in the 2nd degree in the killing of Lesandro Guzman-Feliz. (Jefferson Siegel/New York Daily News)

Just that day he had landed a job as a construction laborer, tying rebar at union scale.

“I had just passed the interview before that night when everything happened,” he said. “It had benefits, 401K, paid holidays.”

He was driving to the party with some of the other suspects in the case when they saw Lesandro duck into the bodega from the street.


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“Come on, we are just going to fight” he said he told the teenager as he pulled him out of the shop. The bodega owner told him to take him outside, he said.

The video shows the desperate kid gripping the door jamb for dear life as Alvarez pulls his shirt collar until he yanks him out onto the sidewalk.


Kevin Alvarez, 19, confessed to being the man in a black hat, white T-shirt and jeans seen on video surveillance pulling the 15-year-old from the Cruz and Chiky Grocery store. (Obtained by New York Daily News)

Immediately, a man comes into the video frame holding a machete, hacking at Lesandro as Alvarez drags him across the sidewalk.




By the time he decided that he wanted no part in the attack, it was already well underway.

“I didn’t know that,” he said. “I only saw (the knives) when I came out of the store. I backed up and put my arms up. I yelled at them to stop.”

Alvarez backs out of the frame and is not seen on the video again. He said he didn’t know the aspiring cop had died until a female friend let him know.

“I cried,” he said. “I was at work when she called me and I left.”


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Alvarez was the first arrest in the attack. He called a lawyer and turned himself in Monday.


Lesandro (Junior) Guzman-Feliz, 15 years old, was stabbed to death by five men with machetes on June 20, 2018, in the Bronx. (Facebook)

“I made a mistake by being there,” he said. “I thought it was just going to be a fight.”

“I’ve never seen something like that before it was traumatic,” he added. “I can’t sleep in here sometimes.”

Now he fears for his life. Authorities brought him to Rikers on Monday, but he was transferred because the other inmates threatened him, he said. A corrections officer told him, “I’ll leave the door open (so other inmates could attack him),” he said.

“I was scared,” he said. “I don’t get scared. I was in the military, but I was so scared. People think I’m a monster. They want me dead, they want me gone.”

Alvarez was charged with manslaughter, murder and gang assault. He said he had hopes for the future, but now he just wants to flee the country.

“If I get out ... I’m taking my family and leaving. I’ll go to Canada,” he said. “I’ll find new friends, who are like me. Who have ambition, but I know I can’t do a lot of that anymore. It’ll be hard to find a job”
 

Layluh

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^^this seems to be similar to the black guys story. They were “friends” but he wasn’t in the gang. He supposedly didn’t touch lesandro. I don’t even think I saw him in the video after he came in the store.

There was a video with his mom or aunt in the dr but can’t understand it

Is ny daily news credible? I wonder why no one else is reporting this interview

How are you 19 and already out of the army? He must’ve been kicked out.

And so did he get set up? He’s telling a different story
 
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jeanghrey

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^^this seems to be similar to the black guys story. They were “friends” but he wasn’t in the gang. He supposedly didn’t touch lesandro. I don’t even think I saw him in the video after he came in the store.

There was a video with his mom or aunt in the dr but can’t understand it

Is ny daily news credible? I wonder why no one else is reporting this interview

How are you 19 and already out of the army? He must’ve been kicked out.

And so did he get set up? He’s telling a different story

I peeped that too....at minimum its usually like a two year requirement and unless your parents sign you in can't join before 18
 

Shula

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From the NyPost. This dude has a lot of nerve.
Father of girl in sex tape tied to bodega murder is ‘disgusted’

Javier, the father of the girl in the sex tape that cops say may have led to Lesandro "Junior" Guzman-Feliz's murder.

The father of the girl in the sex tape that cops say may have led to Lesandro “Junior” Guzman-Feliz’s murder told The Post he is “angry” — and apologized to the victim’s family.

Javier, whose last name is being withheld by The Post because his underage daughter may be a sex crime victim, said he immediately recognized her when his brother sent him the video on Facebook.

“I cried a lot… it’s disgusting to see my daughter in a video like that,” Javier, 43, said through a sign language interpreter, knowing his daughter would’ve been between 13 and 14 years old when the video was taken.

“I don’t know what happened. Their mother doesn’t raise them right… It’s pathetic.”
Javier learned his daughter was in the video, which was illegally shared to Snapchat and other social media websites after it was taken in August 2017, when news of Guzman-Feliz’s murder exploded on social media and amateur sleuths went on a desperate hunt to track down the people who could’ve played a role.

The father said he also has two sons with his daughter’s mother, one 14 and the other 17, and said he doesn’t recognize any of the eight men arrested in connection with Guzman-Feliz’s murder. His children’s mother has an order of protection against him for unknown reasons, and he said he has no idea what role his children could’ve played in the death, if any.

“Everybody on Facebook is saying it’s my fault, but I don’t know anything, I haven’t seen her,” Javier said, adding he sends his condolences to Guzman-Feliz’s family.

“I’m sorry this happened… I feel lost. My heart is broke. I’m shocked, I’m very emotional right now.”

Javier and his daughter have been receiving death threats on social media, leading him to deactivate his account and be in fear for his life.

“I have to be careful walking around, I’m scared… I’m worried… I need my safety for these children,” the desperate dad said.

He added he has not been contacted by the police and said his daughter is not the girl the NYPD has been providing protection for. Police sources have been unable to confirm if Javier’s daughter is being investigated.
 

Shula

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Also, it looks like the Bodega owner did try at some point. He released video.

Newly released surveillance video shows a Bronx bodega owner attempting to save a 15-year-old from machete-wielding marauders. Modesto Cruz, the embattled owner of the Cruz and Chiky store in Tremont, released security footage taken in his store, capturing the moment Lesandro “Junior” Guzman-Feliz raced inside, trying to hide from his eventual killers. Cruz said he didn’t initially understand why Guzman-Feliz wanted to jump over the counter. But then he recognized Guzman-Feliz, saw the fear in his face and helped him jump over the counter looking for safety, the video showed. “I just feel very, very bad,” Cruz told WPIX. “I do remember his face. He was so scared.” Guzman-Feliz could be seen peering out from behind the counter in terror, before a man leads attackers inside the store. The footage showed Guzman-Feliz being beaten and dragged out of the store where he’s hacked to death.

ETA: This poor man. Surely they would 've killed him too and now he may lose his business. I don't know what to think. other people are saying other angles show him pointing the boy out to the killers. I've tried to avoid seeing the killing so I don't know but this is a level brutality that should not be tolerated.
 

jeanghrey

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Also, it looks like the Bodega owner did try at some point. He released video.

Newly released surveillance video shows a Bronx bodega owner attempting to save a 15-year-old from machete-wielding marauders. Modesto Cruz, the embattled owner of the Cruz and Chiky store in Tremont, released security footage taken in his store, capturing the moment Lesandro “Junior” Guzman-Feliz raced inside, trying to hide from his eventual killers. Cruz said he didn’t initially understand why Guzman-Feliz wanted to jump over the counter. But then he recognized Guzman-Feliz, saw the fear in his face and helped him jump over the counter looking for safety, the video showed. “I just feel very, very bad,” Cruz told WPIX. “I do remember his face. He was so scared.” Guzman-Feliz could be seen peering out from behind the counter in terror, before a man leads attackers inside the store. The footage showed Guzman-Feliz being beaten and dragged out of the store where he’s hacked to death.

ETA: This poor man. Surely they would 've killed him too and now he may lose his business. I don't know what to think. other people are saying other angles show him pointing the boy out to the killers. I've tried to avoid seeing the killing so I don't know but this is a level brutality that should not be tolerated.

Honestly he was in a lose lose position...most bodegas are neutral ground when it comes to neighborhood beefs....most of the stabbing took place outside the store, how could he have known they were coming to kill the boy and not just give a typical hood arse whooping....I’m sure he feels horrible he didn’t done more, we’re all looking at this in hindsight but he was dealing with it in real time
 

Layluh

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@Shula I hate when they release stuff like this so late. Cause it shows the original video was severely edited. I thought they just went in there, the owner said **** this, and then they dragged dude out. No convo, no nothing.

And Kevin’s full of ish. He was the main one trying to get him out and was the first one to lay hands with one of the bodegueros trying to help.
 

Shula

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I agree. They have everyone upset at the owner and like mentioned before, it was lose/lose for this man. I'm afraid for him now. What if people angry enough to harm him don't get this new info? Plus, I don't know how he can get past seeing that. When he said he knew the young man since he was a little boy and you can clearly seeing he is seriously grieved by it all, ugh. I need to see Kevin, who IS full of it like you said, and the rest of these boys prosecuted as far as they can take it legally. This cannot be allowed and I don't want to hear any sob stories for sympathy for the perps. I don't care how you grew up, butchering a child blatantly like this in public.....nah. Throw the book at all of them. I hope the bodega guy gains peace (I seriously don't know how) and is left alone.

@Shula I hate when they release stuff like this so late. Cause it shows the original video was severely edited. I thought they just went in there, the owner said **** this, and then they dragged dude out. No convo, no nothing.

And Kevin’s full of ish. He was the main one trying to get him out and was the first one to lay hands with one of the bodegueros trying to help.
 

Layluh

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Well I don’t know. I saw the new angle up close and it looks like the owner did push him out imo. It was one of his employees who physically tried to stop Kevin’s assault.

Dude in green bandanas Mitch made. He pretended like he was going to stab him then ran away. even in the store he let Kevin and Black dude do most of the work and stepped back so they could get in front. But black dude was like I’m out lol.

Kevin was definitely trying to be down. Just stupid.
 

Petal26

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Wow, these people are just animals. The dad, the bodega people, the "friend". I didn't know they killed the boy with machetes. That's just beyond horrible, that poor baby :cry4:I actually saw two men fight with machetes when I was a child, and I've never been able to forget it. Once you do that to a person I don't think you're human anymore. Too bad NY doesn't have the death penalty anymore.

And to add insult to injury these animals calls themselves "Los Trinitarios", the ***** nerve :mad:
 
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