Relaxed Hair Thread

klsjackson · Nov 3, 2018

SuchaLady said:
Hi, if y’all will still let me post here

My observation is that you have several different steps that can be consolidated.

1. What is your prepoo for? Moisture? Strengthening? What benefits are you looking for here?
2/3. Why two shampoos with two different products?
5. Is French perm a reconstructor? Step 4 is as well.

I feel a lot of this overlapping.

Hey there

I guess I never thought about it in those terms. I use the pre poo because I wanted to thicken my hair and castor oil seemed to be the best choice and I read that coconut oil helped to keep hair from being too dry because of the shampoo process.

I use two shampoos because the bottle said to use the 1st later shampoo and then the Moisture shampoo, LOL

French Perm has actually been a life saver for my hair. I would describe it as acidic rinse, similar to ACV or porosity control. My hair was very dry. No matter what conditioner I used. It just would not hold any moisture and I remembered that this was a product I had used to smooth my hair cuticles and started using it again and I have been able to really tell a difference in my hair.

SuchaLady · Nov 3, 2018

SuchaLady said:
@sunnieb I found a hair line at Sally’s with honey in it and took pics to show you. I can’t find them in my gallery now I’m gonna keep looking.

@sunnieb Here it is.

sunnieb · Nov 4, 2018

@SuchaLady that l looks promising!

I love using honey, but sometimes don't feel like dealing with the mess.

Royalq · Nov 11, 2018

What moisturizer are you guys using? I've been using Scurl and Elasta qp and I'm just not feeling it. I used to use neutrogena triple silk moisture leave in but they changed the formula so that no longer works for me.

Royalq · Nov 11, 2018

Also what relaxer are you guys using?

MzSwift · Nov 11, 2018

Royalq said:
What moisturizer are you guys using? I've been using Scurl and Elasta qp and I'm just not feeling it. I used to use neutrogena triple silk moisture leave in but they changed the formula so that no longer works for me.

I actually use the same moisturizer as when I was natural. I use a mix of conditioner, oil and water in a spray bottle. I use Suave Tropical Coconut condish + EVOO/Grapeseed and safflower oil mix and water. I add a few drops of essential oil for scent, usually sweet orange and/or lavendar. I play with the proportions depending on the weather. In the summer, my mix is about 70% water, 30% condish and a squirt of oil. In cooler weather, my mix is closer to 50% condish, 40% water and 10% oil. Sometimes I even use my ayurveda tea as the “water” portion if my hair is gonna be under a wig.

HTH! Sorry so long. :blush2:

Royalq said:
Also what relaxer are you guys using?

I use Motions lye, mild.

Royalq · Nov 11, 2018

MzSwift said:
I actually use the same moisturizer as when I was natural. I use a mix of conditioner, oil and water in a spray bottle. I use Suave Tropical Coconut condish + EVOO/Grapeseed and safflower oil mix and water. I add a few drops of essential oil for scent, usually sweet orange and/or lavendar. I play with the proportions depending on the weather. In the summer, my mix is about 70% water, 30% condish and a squirt of oil. In cooler weather, my mix is closer to 50% condish, 40% water and 10% oil. Sometimes I even use my ayurveda tea as the “water” portion if my hair is gonna be under a wig.

HTH! Sorry so long.

I use Motions lye, mild.

Thank you thank you! I'm looking for a cream or lotion because what I've noticed is that my hair doesn't like being moisturized while wet. So I feel like a water mix spritz would be too wet.

PlanetCybertron · Nov 15, 2018

So after 3 months of stretching I had to relax. There was about 6-7 knots that formed back to back on the left side. All of which I ended up having to snip bits and pieces out of. All the new growth and seasonal shedding was a perfect environment for monstrous knots and tangles. Regardless of how much I tried to section my hair and keep my strands neat.

My length wasn’t effected so much as my thickness was towards the left side on the ends. It’s not an extreme difference, Couple it with the cold front we are suddenly experiencing, and my hair is throwing a bit of a fit.

I relaxed with Africa’s Best, whole shebang, and a couple of days later I washed again with Isoplus neutralizing shampoo to further get my Ph back in range. I used an ACV rinse, and my ceramide Treatment twice this week for good measure. SM Raw Shea Butter Treatment mixed with SMJBCO as a leave in, and one of my heavier cone based serums to seal. I’ve been doing a revised version of LCO method. My hair has been up in Bantu knots or two pigtail braids put up in braided buns.

I feel like I haven’t been making much progress, but my hair growth always slows down tremendously in the winter months, so I guess I just need a bit more patience.

It’s still a bit sparse in the middle where my crown area is, but it’s always been a very sensitive area thats prone to breakage more so than anywhere else. It does fill in a bit better as it dries, and without me stretching out certain areas to take photos lol.

But This is my current length after one week post:

https://imgflip.com/memegenerator

MzSwift · Nov 15, 2018

Way to go @PlanetCybertron !! :toocool:

Update:
I’m currently redoing my mini braids. I think I’ve done a good job with retention this year. I cut it to between APL-BSB in Jan and I’m pulling some of my unbraided hair down to about MBL! Don’t want to get too excited until after my length check next month. I’ll be taking down these braids next month and relaxing sometime around Christmas.

PlanetCybertron · Nov 16, 2018

MzSwift said:
Way to go @PlanetCybertron !!

Update:
I’m currently redoing my mini braids. I think I’ve done a good job with retention this year. I cut it to between APL-BSB in Jan and I’m pulling some of my unbraided hair down to about MBL! Don’t want to get too excited until after my length check next month. I’ll be taking down these braids next month and relaxing sometime around Christmas.

Thank you!

I’m learning to just accept genuine compliments. In the back of my head I just wanna complain about everything. I legit give cudos to women who can keep their hemline thick and pretty. I feel like once I get to my goal length I’ll have to be okay with trimming most of my growth off every odd number of months. I wish I could get away with no trimming for a lot longer, but it’s due time.

MzSwift · Nov 16, 2018

PlanetCybertron said:
Thank you!

I’m learning to just accept genuine compliments. In the back of my head I just wanna complain about everything. I legit give cudos to women who can keep their hemline thick and pretty. I feel like once I get to my goal length I’ll have to be okay with trimming most of my growth off every odd number of months. I wish I could get away with no trimming for a lot longer, but it’s due time.

I totally understand. I’ve been following your updates and see that you’re working hard to figure out the best way to meet your goals. You’re doing a great job of measuring, trying out different product combos, techniques and styles. Sorry your bantu knots didn’t work out but I’m sure you’ll find a way to rock them so that they won’t give you knots you have to cut out. You’re doing a great job. KUTGW!

My hair grows in a V shape so I rarely have a full hemline. I’m not really a trimmer, I prefer regular dusting. But I ended up doing a cut back in Jan in order to get rid of my bonelaxed hair. I don’t care about having even hair, I really prefer the natural layers in which my hair grows. Sorry if the second part of my last post seemed like I was slighting you, I didn’t feel like making a second post for my update. Lol.

klsjackson · Nov 17, 2018

I did my hair yesterday. I pretty much stuck to my old regimen, with two slight adjustments. I had been hearing so much about Olaplex No. 3 and I decided to give it a try. I used it as a pre poo on damp hair and left it on for about 35 to 40 minutes. I shampooed with ORS Creamy Aloe. I used Aphogee 2 min and deep conditioned with ORS Replenishing under a steamer for 20 minutes. I applied Aphogee Green Tea and Keratin leave in mist and a leave in from Shea Moisture and sat under a hooded dryer. I used a blow dryer on my roots to ensure they were completely dry and then flat ironed. My hair felt a little tangled after it dried. I think the Olaplex gave me protein overload, but I will do moisture on my next shampoo day.

Overall my hair looked good when finished and I can definitely see the areas of breakage from the last relaxer. I trimmed my hair. The longest part was at line 10 and the shortest at 7. I trimmed the longest to line 8 and dusted my ends. My hair looked much better after the trim and I was pleased. My goal was to be fully at line 8 and even though I have a few damaged areas I am encouraged about my hair.

I will not relax for at least the next six months.

alundra · Nov 17, 2018

I'm due to get surgery in Jan (or end of Dec) and I need to stay in the hospital overnight at least. Any recs for what I can do with my hair? We have private insurance* so I should have a private or semi-private room.

*Private insurance = we live in England where we have national health care that's free at the point of service, but some people have private insurance that they pay for or through their jobs.

Wenbev · Nov 17, 2018

alundra said:
I'm due to get surgery in Jan (or end of Dec) and I need to stay in the hospital overnight at least. Any recs for what I can do with my hair? We have private insurance* so I should have a private or semi-private room.

*Private insurance = we live in England where we have national health care that's free at the point of service, but some people have private insurance that they pay for or through their jobs.

hope all is well, and safe recovery. I'd just braid in four and wear a scarf to protect from dryness.

Wenbev · Nov 17, 2018

klsjackson said:
I did my hair yesterday. I pretty much stuck to my old regimen, with two slight adjustments. I had been hearing so much about Olaplex No. 3 and I decided to give it a try. I used it as a pre poo on damp hair and left it on for about 35 to 40 minutes. I shampooed with ORS Creamy Aloe. I used Aphogee 2 min and deep conditioned with ORS Replenishing under a steamer for 20 minutes. I applied Aphogee Green Tea and Keratin leave in mist and a leave in from Shea Moisture and sat under a hooded dryer. I used a blow dryer on my roots to ensure they were completely dry and then flat ironed. My hair felt a little tangled after it dried. I think the Olaplex gave me protein overload, but I will do moisture on my next shampoo day.

Overall my hair looked good when finished and I can definitely see the areas of breakage from the last relaxer. I trimmed my hair. The longest part was at line 10 and the shortest at 7. I trimmed the longest to line 8 and dusted my ends. My hair looked much better after the trim and I was pleased. My goal was to be fully at line 8 and even though I have a few damaged areas I am encouraged about my hair.

I will not relax for at least the next six months.

olaplex is not a protein treatment. everything else you used was all protein though - the 2 min keratin treatment, the DC and the keratin leave-in. Any time you incorporate a protein DC, try following with aphogee's balancing conditioner as a final washout condish. Also, if you're protein sensitive, maybe pick the keratin condish or the keratin leave in, but not both.
I am happy you are feeling better about your hair! I am also recovering from a nape breakage setback.

LushLox · Nov 18, 2018

Royalq said:
Also what relaxer are you guys using?

I use Affirm sensitive scalp. Best relaxer I’ve ever used my hair feels great afterwards.

I use Kerastase Creme Magistral and SachaJuan leave ins.

lalla · Nov 18, 2018

I last relaxed on 08/01. I have been wearing a upart kinky straight wig and spraying my hair everyday. I don't think I will stretch more than 17 weeks.

Rozlewis · Nov 18, 2018

I am going to try and stretch my relaxer fro 17 weeks. I am hoping the RevAir will help me to stretch 4 weeks more than I usually do.

Sosoothing · Nov 18, 2018

Postpartum shedding + detangling + 2 glasses of Chardonnay = cutting hair out of frustration :nono:

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MzSwift · Nov 18, 2018

Sosoothing said:
Postpartum shedding + detangling + 2 glasses of Chardonnay = cutting hair out of frustration .

Lol, oh no! Breathe, sis. I sure hope no scissors come near that pretty hair.

alundra said:
I'm due to get surgery in Jan (or end of Dec) and I need to stay in the hospital overnight at least. Any recs for what I can do with my hair? We have private insurance* so I should have a private or semi-private room.

*Private insurance = we live in England where we have national health care that's free at the point of service, but some people have private insurance that they pay for or through their jobs.

Maybe you can do two dutch braids that you can pin up like this:

I usually cheat and do two low ponytails that I braid and pin up. That would be pretty easy to redo after a week. GL with your hospital stay and recovery!

alundra · Nov 18, 2018

Wenbev said:
hope all is well, and safe recovery. I'd just braid in four and wear a scarf to protect from dryness.

and

MzSwift said:
Maybe you can do two dutch braids that you can pin up like this:

I usually cheat and do two low ponytails that I braid and pin up. That would be pretty easy to redo after a week. GL with your hospital stay and recovery!

Thanks ladies, simple braids seem to be the best option, especially since I don't know how I'll be feeling after. I think I need a new scarf, mine is not hospital ready.

@Royalq re: questions about which products are used...

Moisturizer: One from ORS, I think it's the fertilizer along with some Japanese water moisturizer. I loved Elasta QP but I couldn't take the smell.

Relaxer: My hairdresser uses ORS now which I'm not crazy about.

Wenbev · Nov 18, 2018

LushLox said:
I use Affirm sensitive scalp. Best relaxer I’ve ever used my hair feels great afterwards.

I use Kerastase Creme Magistral and SachaJuan leave ins.

I love Sachajuan everything, but especially the leavein

Wenbev · Nov 18, 2018

Sosoothing said:
Postpartum shedding + detangling + 2 glasses of Chardonnay = cutting hair out of frustration .

oh no! that shedding is no joke no more drinking and cutting

alundra said:
and

Thanks ladies, simple braids seem to be the best option, especially since I don't know how I'll be feeling after. I think I need a new scarf, mine is not hospital ready.

@Royalq re: questions about which products are used...

Moisturizer: One from ORS, I think it's the fertilizer along with some Japanese water moisturizer. I loved Elasta QP but I couldn't take the smell.

Relaxer: My hairdresser uses ORS now which I'm not crazy about.

yes girl, I hear you on the scarf. maybe a turban could be a prettier option too. I use those especially on overnight flights after wrapping my hair .

klsjackson · Nov 18, 2018

Wenbev said:
olaplex is not a protein treatment. everything else you used was all protein though - the 2 min keratin treatment, the DC and the keratin leave-in. Any time you incorporate a protein DC, try following with aphogee's balancing conditioner as a final washout condish. Also, if you're protein sensitive, maybe pick the keratin condish or the keratin leave in, but not both.
I am happy you are feeling better about your hair! I am also recovering from a nape breakage setback.

Thanks!! I use these same products every week with no issue. The ORS Replenishing is not a protein conditioner, at least not for me. It supposed be balanced between moisture and protein and leans more towards moisture.

Olaplex is not protein, but it adds a coating to the hair that performed like a strong protein on my hair. I will not use it again. When I use a strong protein like Duo Tex, Affirm 5 n 1 or ORS Mayo I use the repelenishing as my deep conditioner and my hair loves it.

PlanetCybertron · Nov 18, 2018

Tried the, it’s a 10 hair mask, as a gift to myself from a frustrating day at work.

Did the opposite. My hair is so crunchy and This hair mask completely clashes with pretty much all of my products. Waste. Of. Money.

WASTE!!!

......okay just be calm. Caaaalm. Calm. Woosah.

nerdography · Nov 19, 2018

I just finished getting my hair relaxed and I really like it. They ended up having to cut some damage off. So, I went from bra strap to armpit length.

MzSwift · Nov 20, 2018

Ooh pretty, @nerdography !

You’ll get that length back before you know it.

sunnieb · Nov 20, 2018

@nerdography your hair is gorgeous! Love the silkiness and color!

5_Years_To_WL · Nov 20, 2018

Hello everyone, newbie here. I was just wondering if anyone can recommend a good relaxer for fine (strand size not texture) high porosity, type 4 hair. I am looking for my hair to get straight so I have more manageability during what I hope can be a three month stretch, though I am only going to do buns, ponytails and wigs until I gain more length and thickness.

I have been and will continue to read this thread and others, but if anyone cares to share I’d appreciate it. Thanks in advance. Can’t wait until I can start contributing on the forum.

Sosoothing · Nov 20, 2018

nerdography said:
I just finished getting my hair relaxed and I really like it. They ended up having to cut some damage off. So, I went from bra strap to armpit length.

Beautiful and silky. Depending on your torso length you might be BSL with your next relaxer. At least that would be the case for me.

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