I Went Back To Cones And My Hair Flourished

DST1913

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@DST1913 oh yeah clarifying shampoos are generally very tangling on my hair, well, shampoo often in general. The Oribe doesn’t tangle my hair. I just mitigate by shampooing in sections.
I havent heard of oribe. Also ACV rinses are horrible for me. The last time I tried it my hair was so tangled I was in tears.
 

LushLox

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I havent heard of oribe. Also ACV rinses are horrible for me. The last time I tried it my hair was so tangled I was in tears.

Prepare yourself for the price. I don't know how much it costs but anything Oribe is guaranteed expensive. :lol:

As for cones, I never did stop using them really.
 

Aggie

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I just wanted to share my story. Maybe it will help someone. I have 4C fine hair. I decided to go natural by transitioning and cut off my relaxed ends in January of this year and ended up with neck length hair. Like all new naturals I came here, read blogs and watch endless hours of you tube. One thing in common was cones and sulfates were the devil incarnate. So I ditched all those products and went on a quest to find new ones. Hundreds (prob thousands) later my hair was STILL dry and not thriving. It was a dry bushy mess. Especially the ends. My ends were so bushy I at one point cut them off and they returned bushy again. I could not figure out what was wrong.

A few months ago I decided to incorporate keracare humecto and silicon mix in my weekly regimen. It took a lot for me to try this as I thought it would be so bad. Fast forward and my hair is THRIVING! since going natural my hair is soft, moisturized and stays that way. I've noticed growth for the first time and my hair is a little past collarbone. I'm still using sulfate free shampoo with the occasional clarifier but products with cones have saved my hair! I dont think this is a story you hear in the natural community but its what made my hair healthy. Looking forward to more progress in the upcoming months/years

Good for you @DST1913,

Found ALL this out the hard way. I am also back on cones and weaning out all the 'so-called' healthier hair products from my stash. Once I'm done using them, I will kiss them goodbye and stick with what works on MY hair. My hair loves cones and sulfate rich shampoos too. There are however 3 or 4 natural brands of Deep Conditioners that are amazing on my hair so I might just keep those.
 
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Aggie

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I had the same experience... I find sulfate free shampoos generally very stripping and my scalp still feels coated after a wash which I'm not OK with. And I need cones for manageability.

In fact the overwhelming majority of my stash has ingredients that are 'vetoed'. I'm about to get some grease (Yes, grease) for the winter too

:lachen: Girl I been back on the grease train for about 5 months now and lov-ing it. What took me so long to get back to this is beyond me? My hair is growing in so healthy and detangling is now a breeze since I heavy seal my hair with grease now. Plus the SSKs are barely minimal now.
 
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DST1913

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Good for you @DST1913,

Found ALL this out the hard way. I am also back on cones and weaning out all the 'so-called' healthier hair products from my stash. Once I'm done using them, I will kiss them goodbye and stick with what works on MY hair. My hair loves cones and sulfate rich shampoos too. There are however 3 or 4 natural brands of Deep Conditioners that are amazing on my hair so I might just keep those.
See for me the natural deep conditioners didnt work. Some could detangle but my hair never felt conditioned. It was like the effect would wash away down the drain once rinsed out.
 

DST1913

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:lachen: Girl I been back on the grease train for about 5 months now and lov-ing it. What took me so long to get back to this is beyond me? My hair is growing in so healthy and detangling is now a breeze since I heavy seal my hair with grease now. Plus the SSKs are barely minimal now.
What kind of grease do you use. I've thought about this for my ends too
 

kxlot79

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Really! Wow!
ACV is often considered a great detangler! Lol!
I actually use it as a prepoo sometimes because it detangles like a dream and cuts down on the shampoo use, fewer washes/lathers for heavier buildup.
I think you’re the only person I’ve heard of having that reaction to acv! How much did you dilute it when you used it?
Also ACV rinses are horrible for me. The last time I tried it my hair was so tangled I was in tears.
 

DST1913

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Really! Wow!
ACV is often considered a great detangler! Lol!
I actually use it as a prepoo sometimes because it detangles like a dream and cuts down on the shampoo use, fewer washes/lathers for heavier buildup.
I think you’re the only person I’ve heard of having that reaction to acv! How much did you dilute it when you used it?
Dilute it? Hmmm me thinks you found the issue :lachen::lachen:
 

Aggie

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What kind of grease do you use. I've thought about this for my ends too
I use Blue Magic (original blue one). I love it. I also like the one formulated with castor oil in it. I've tried the hair food one but it was a little too light for heavy sealing my hair.
 

Aggie

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How often do you use it? Is your hair damp before you apply it?
I use it one to two times per week after saturating my hair with either Soft Sheen CFCG Curl Moisturizer or Luster's SCurl Activating Moisturizer or Lustrasilk Curl Max Curl Activator Moisturizer. I love them all and this method should even work in cold climates with low humidity because of the grease being used as a thick sealant.

Truthfully, it stay moisturized for the entire week but I like re-moisturizing it twice a week. If you try the green house effect at night, it will stay moisturized even longer than a week.
 

kxlot79

Kitchen Mixtress
Even though it’s considered a “weak” acid it’s still strong enough to burn skin, burn your throat during consumption, and erode your tooth enamel, for reference. So if you weren’t diluting it at all, that’s what you were exposing your hair to.
A lot of recipes have ratios of water:acv. The highest I’ve seen is 1:1, but more often 2:1 or 3:1
I would say you could lower and work your way up to see what felt best to you. Maybe 1-2 tbsp to 8oz of water, for a acv rinse. Different concentrations are used depending on the individual needs of hair. I haven’t personally gone higher than 2:1, and that’s a mix I concentrate on my scalp.
HTH!
ETA: some people add essential oils as well or mix it into their conditioner, otherwise it’s mostly a water and acv mix
Anything else I should know? Is there a proper mixture ratio? Is it just water.
 
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