Relaxed Hair Thread

danysedai said:

Just saying hello, I've neglected checking on this thread for so long. tbh I check the relaxed hair groups in FB more.
Sitting under the dryer with rollers. I have gone back to DC with heat and also gone back to rollersetting. My hair is recovering nicely. My main issue is that I forget to cover my hair at night. I'll buy several silk scarves and satin bonnets and leave them throughout the house and on my night table so I remember.
Decided to give Silicon Mix a try and I love it this time and the smell doesn't bother me. I've been using SM original, SM pearl protein and now SM bamboo. I've added Olaplex to my products (No. 3, 4 and 5) I didn't like the conditioner on its own but following it with a moisturizing conditioner makes it work.
I'm also using tension rollers mixed with magnetic ones as I don't have enough of the tension rollers.

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Last night I washed and used No 3, No 4, & No 5. No 3 and No 4 shampoo were great. As soon as I put the conditioner on my hair, it felt so tangled. I deep conditioned after with a protein free deep conditioner, and my hair still felt dry. When I was roller setting my hair, I had a lot of shedding. This is the third time using the conditioner, and my hair has felt this way every time. It feels like my hair is overloaded with protein.

gemruby41 said:

Last night I washed and used No 3, No 4, & No 5. No 3 and No 4 shampoo were great. As soon as I put the conditioner on my hair, it felt so tangled. I deep conditioned after with a protein free deep conditioner, and my hair still felt dry. When I was roller setting my hair, I had a lot of shedding. This is the third time using the conditioner, and my hair has felt this way every time. It feels like my hair is overloaded with protein.

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I plan to do my hair today. I will try No. 3 again, but will use as a midstep, instead of a pre treatment. Last time I used it, my behaved as if I had protein overload. Hopefully, I will not have that same experience. I have not used No. 4 or No. 5 and I don’t have any plans to try it any time soon. I’m wondering if there is another product that is as effective as No. 3 but not as expensive....

gemruby41 said:

Last night I washed and used No 3, No 4, & No 5. No 3 and No 4 shampoo were great. As soon as I put the conditioner on my hair, it felt so tangled. I deep conditioned after with a protein free deep conditioner, and my hair still felt dry. When I was roller setting my hair, I had a lot of shedding. This is the third time using the conditioner, and my hair has felt this way every time. It feels like my hair is overloaded with protein.

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My hair felt like dried out straw with the Olaplex conditioner. The first time I used a protein conditioner after and it was bad bad bad. The second time I used a more moisturizing conditioner and it was better. I will definitely not use it on its own, it really does not agree with my hair.

danysedai said:

My hair felt like dried out straw with the Olaplex conditioner. The first time I used a protein conditioner after and it was bad bad bad. The second time I used a more moisturizing conditioner and it was better. I will definitely not use it on its own, it really does not agree with my hair.

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It doesn’t agree with mine either. I’m not using it anymore. I steamed my hair for 30 minutes, and my hair still felt like straw.

klsjackson said:

I plan to do my hair today. I will try No. 3 again, but will use as a midstep, instead of a pre treatment. Last time I used it, my behaved as if I had protein overload. Hopefully, I will not have that same experience. I have not used No. 4 or No. 5 and I don’t have any plans to try it any time soon. I’m wondering if there is another product that is as effective as No. 3 but not as expensive....

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I know they say Olaplex is not a protein treatment, but it behaves on my hair like one. I would not use this weekly like advertised.

5_Years_To_WL said:

Thanks Wenbev! I think I will go with texlaxing, but I may need to wrap my mind around doing it myself at home to get consistent results. I never tried oil rinse with co-wash but think I will next time.

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Let me know what you think! I like to wet my hair whilst in the shower, use an oil mix in a dye applicator bottle, then slather on a conditioner. And then after my shower necessities, finger detangle and rinse in sections.
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So I used Olaplex No. 3 again yesterday. I used for the first time two weeks ago and it performed like a strong protein on my hair. I did my pre poo with oils and shampooed, then towel dried and allowed No. 3 to sit on my hair under a plastic cap for 20 minutes, next I rinsed and finished my regimen. I noticed immediately after shampooing it out that it was behaving like strong protein on my hair again. I did a deep condition with my normal ORS replenishing and my hair was difficult to detangle, but not as bad as the first time I used this product.

But the major difference was my final results. I blow dried and flat ironed my hair and when I finished blow drying, I noticed that my hair felt very soft. It has never felt like this and after I flat ironed I could really tell a difference. This morning when I unwrapped my hair, it felt extremely soft and moisturized and it has body and movement that I have not seen in awhile!!! I really like the results. My only dilemma is my hair tangles horribly with No. 3!! So what do I do???? I wish I could get these results without the tangles.

@klsjackson That is so weird!!! Where is the tangling? Maybe don’t put through the length of your hair? I hate tangles!
Actually I reread your post, olaplex should be applied to wet hair maybe that causing the weird tangling issue? When you applied it the first time, was your hair dry?
Lol I really want it to work for you!!

Wenbev said:

@klsjackson That is so weird!!! Where is the tangling? Maybe don’t put through the length of your hair? I hate tangles!
Actually I reread your post, olaplex should be applied to wet hair maybe that causing the weird tangling issue? When you applied it the first time, was your hair dry?
Lol I really want it to work for you!!

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I had a few SSK on the ends of my hair, only one caused any problems, lol. But it is at the roots were the tangles are horrible. So maybe just on the length and ends of my hair. But I love the way it made my new growth feel!!! I am 8.5 weeks post and No. 3 had those curls popping, but when I went to comb my roots it was a nightmare. I know it was No. 3 that caused this, but my hair feels amazing. I literally keep touching it, LOL.

And yes my hair was wet both times. The first time I sprayed my hair until it was very damp and then applied. This time I shampooed and towel dried, for real, and then applied. So I am thinking that it needs to be "wet" for the best results.

@Wenbev
Hey! Thank you and it’s nice to be back!
I’m still rocking short hair. Since I’m still in school, I won’t focus too much on fully growing it out. I still like that it doesn’t take long to do my hair.
I will grow out my bangs a little more.
Today I’m washing and deep conditioning my hair with mizani or design essentials. I use CON leave-in spray and Nairobi wrap foam to mold my hair, then use Kemi oil and curl with my kiss 1/2 inch flat iron. The dryer and curling takes up the most time, but i’ll take that over a detangling session. I’m so glad I got my standing dryer, so I can sit anywhere in the house.

klsjackson said:

I had a few SSK on the ends of my hair, only one caused any problems, lol. But it is at the roots were the tangles are horrible. So maybe just on the length and ends of my hair. But I love the way it made my new growth feel!!! I am 8.5 weeks post and No. 3 had those curls popping, but when I went to comb my roots it was a nightmare. I know it was No. 3 that caused this, but my hair feels amazing. I literally keep touching it, LOL.

And yes my hair was wet both times. The first time I sprayed my hair until it was very damp and then applied. This time I shampooed and towel dried, for real, and then applied. So I am thinking that it needs to be "wet" for the best results.

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Lol girl! I think you’re right! Hair needs to be wet and maybe just on the length and not the new growth. Which I guess makes sense if no 3 is trying to “fix” the broken bonds and your new growth is healthy “unbroken bonds” hair. And lol at you keep touching your hair

Evolving78 said:

@Wenbev
Hey! Thank you and it’s nice to be back!
I’m still rocking short hair. Since I’m still in school, I won’t focus too much on fully growing it out. I still like that it doesn’t take long to do my hair.
I will grow out my bangs a little more.
Today I’m washing and deep conditioning my hair with mizani or design essentials. I use CON leave-in spray and Nairobi wrap foam to mold my hair, then use Kemi oil and curl with my kiss 1/2 inch flat iron. The dryer and curling takes up the most time, but i’ll take that over a detangling session. I’m so glad I got my standing dryer, so I can sit anywhere in the house.

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Watch out, your hair is going to be SL by the summer with your fast growing self.
I’ve wanted a standing dryer but I don’t know where to store it when not in use. I’m still using an old collapsible table top dryer that I keep in the closet.

17 weeks post today. Just did an aphogee 2 step + joico moisturizing treatment.
I am relaxing my hair next week.

Wenbev said:

Watch out, your hair is going to be SL by the summer with your fast growing self.
I’ve wanted a standing dryer but I don’t know where to store it when not in use. I’m still using an old collapsible table top dryer that I keep in the closet.

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Lol I know I change my mind a lot with the hair! Lol
Girl I don’t have a storage place for it either, and I have my other dryer in the closet as well. I just put it in a corner and call it a day.

Update: 10 weeks post as of today. The short pieces from the relaxer damage are beginning to grow out and are sticking out in the top. I am a little self conscious about the hair sticking out at the crown, but I know it represents growth. I also know that in another month to six weeks this will change. I am still on my same regimen and will make a decision at the end of 24 weeks as to whether or not I will transition or relax again. I did not use No. 3 this week, but my hair still feels really soft.

Happy Hair growing Ladies

Had a nice wash day yesterday. I'm heading in to week 13 post. Normally I would relax at 12 weeks but this is the last 2 weeks of class so I got finals left and right. But my hair is surprisingly behaving. I'm DCing every week and making sure to get DC on my new growth and making sure to moisturize my new growth. I think that's what's making a difference.

Why yall ain't tell me about aphogee deep moisture shampoo?? Normally I would get the shampoo for damaged hair but I really haven't seen a big difference. So yesterday I decided to get the deep moisture and chile! When washing it out my hair felt soooo soft. I kept rinsing thinking there was still DC left in my hair( I dry DC and shampoo it out) but it was just the shampoo making my hair moist. I was able to detangled out the shower with nothing in my hair and moisturize and seal. My hair feels super soft. Def a keeper.

For those using Olapex No. 3 and not loving it, could it be that it is not optimal because you are not using 1 and 2 first? (Just assuming you're not but I could be wrong). Is it that only cosmetologists can access 1 and 2, and 3 - 5 is available at Sephora? Anyway, I think I'm going to try it out on my hair after my next relaxer to see since I am not protein sensitive need all the building, strengthening and filling in I can get.

Royalq said:

Had a nice wash day yesterday. I'm heading in to week 13 post. Normally I would relax at 12 weeks but this is the last 2 weeks of class so I got finals left and right. But my hair is surprisingly behaving. I'm DCing every week and making sure to get DC on my new growth and making sure to moisturize my new growth. I think that's what's making a difference.

Why yall ain't tell me about aphogee deep moisture shampoo?? Normally I would get the shampoo for damaged hair but I really haven't seen a big difference. So yesterday I decided to get the deep moisture and chile! When washing it out my hair felt soooo soft. I kept rinsing thinking there was still DC left in my hair( I dry DC and shampoo it out) but it was just the shampoo making my hair moist. I was able to detangled out the shower with nothing in my hair and moisturize and seal. My hair feels super soft. Def a keeper.

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I’m trying hard not to buy any more products but I never tried the shampoo...

Wenbev said:

I’m trying hard not to buy any more products but I never tried the shampoo...

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The shampoo for damaged hair was nice. It made my hair feel soft while lathering but dyer rinsing out my hair was dry. But the deep moisture felt like whatever lathering up ( though it leathers up like crazy. Poofs of suds were falling on the shower floor with very little shampoo) but after rinsing out my hair felt like I still had slippery conditioner in it. I was surprised

5_Years_To_WL said:

For those using Olapex No. 3 and not loving it, could it be that it is not optimal because you are not using 1 and 2 first? (Just assuming you're not but I could be wrong). Is it that only cosmetologists can access 1 and 2, and 3 - 5 is available at Sephora? Anyway, I think I'm going to try it out on my hair after my next relaxer to see since I am not protein sensitive need all the building, strengthening and filling in I can get.

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I believe no 1 2 and 3 have the same active ingredient, but at different strengths. And I hear you on the the building up your hair, i’m trying to do the same.
I’ve used 1 and 2 with my stylist when she colors. I believe it protected my hair with the beached highlights on top of color on top of a relaxer. I was able to buy 1 and 2 and tried it mixed in my relaxer and will never do that again; had to do a corrective relaxer because it was severely under processed.
I also don’t think I would buy 1 and 2 again. Will just deal with 3 since my stylist uses when I get color. The shampoo I didn’t try but liked the conditioner, no 6,but not the price so I won’t buy that again.

Royalq said:

The shampoo for damaged hair was nice. It made my hair feel soft while lathering but dyer rinsing out my hair was dry. But the deep moisture felt like whatever lathering up ( though it leathers up like crazy. Poofs of suds were falling on the shower floor with very little shampoo) but after rinsing out my hair felt like I still had slippery conditioner in it. I was surprised

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I like that slippy feeling, weird that there’s that much lather tho lol.

I’ve never used any of the Olaplex range, sounds too scary lol.

I tried a new leave in, I normally use SachaJuan but I hate being so dependant on a product in case they discontinue or change the formula. Ouai Leave in is bomb.com, it’s expensive though as the bottle is so small. But it is heavy hitting moisture, I don’t need a lot on my hair. I’m glad I’ve got an alternative now.

I might have to look at some of their other products.

I washed my hair the other day and didn’t rinse out the conditioner. I haven’t done something like that since last year? I’m going to put myself back on a schedule. Sunday and Wed will be wash day for me, unless something special comes up. I look like a poodle right now. Lol Nairobi is the only wrap lotion to smooth these coils out!
I saw a flat iron I want so badly. I’m gonna get it some time next year. It’s expensive, but can’t find anything reasonable on the market. It 3/10 of an inch.
I think I may stick with an undercut. I don’t like when my tapered nape grows out and it won’t stay flat. My hair grows too fast back there.

How is your crown doing @Evolving78 is all okay now?

LushLox said:

How is your crown doing @Evolving78 is all okay now?

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My scalp fully recovered. I found out I was allergic to tree nuts. I started breaking out all over my body, and when I would eat something my throat started to feel like it was closing up on me. I got rid of all of those products, changed my diet around and everything has been good! That’s what cured me from being a product junkie! All of this stuff that’s on the market is harmful to me. I have to be extremely careful now with natural products.

Evolving78 said:

My scalp fully recovered. I found out I was allergic to tree nuts. I started breaking out all over my body, and when I would eat something my throat started to feel like it was closing up on me. I got rid of all of those products, changed my diet around and everything has been good! That’s what cured me from being a product junkie! All of this stuff that’s on the market is harmful to me. I have to be extremely careful now with natural products.

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Goodness, I’m glad you discovered what the problem was, you could have continued to consume those things and the issue continued to rage on or even worse, get more serious.

I agree about the PJism, it’s no longer a burning need for me to try new things. I’m simply happy to just use what I know works. I’m usually underwhelmed whenever I try new things anyway, it’s best I save my money lol.

LushLox said:

Goodness, I’m glad you discovered what the problem was, you could have continued to consume those things and the issue continued to rage on or even worse, get more serious.

I agree about the PJism, it’s no longer a burning need for me to try new things. I’m simply happy to just use what I know works. I’m usually underwhelmed whenever I try new things anyway, it’s best I save my money lol.

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It was interesting to see the amount of products I collected. So much money down the drain. I think all of the choices out there and the shiny packaging gets the best of us. I went in the beauty supply store the other day, and I was actually confused and annoyed. I was just trying to find some mousse for my DD.. I guess Honey is popular now?

Got my last relaxer for this year done Yesterday night.

I’m more or less irritated with myself because i can’t pinpoint what the main thing was that I did to my hair for it to act the way it did last night. Although I have a few suspicions.

1. I have a habit of using way too much relaxer. Ergo, having to use way too much neutralizer, meaning my hair takes well over a week or so to return back to normal.

2. I tried to compensate for how dry my hair felt by deep conditioning with JBCO. I’ve done it once before but I mixed it with a moisturizing DC, and I only used a few drops. I went overboard this time. It was like 80% JBCO, 20% deep conditioner packet. Since I don’t really have anything at the moment, and none of my backup staple products, I used what I had. After neutralizing, I always realize I need to wash again with neutralizer the next couple of days, if I want any of products to work the way they usually would.

3. I realized I pretty much sealed in the calcium deposits from trying to deep condition with JBCO. And the neutralizing shampoo was struggling to break the product down from my hair.

4. I don’t think I’ve ever felt my hair like that before. Felt like a wet rubber band, with no elasticity. I had to wash my hair twice in one day, which was today. Washed this morning and the water was pinker than a highlighter. Washed once again after drying and after I came from work, and the water is running clear now. I’m sitting with some Aveda Conditioner on my hair since that’s the only conditioning agent I have. And then try to seal that in with a warm coconut oil mask, and then rinse.

5. My hair seems to process differently using calcium vs. Sodium based relaxers. Calcium relaxers mostly just texturize my hair. Sodium relaxers actually straighten that bad boy out almost completely. And I’m realizing I hop around from relaxer to relaxer almost every relaxer day.

....... No idea what else to do

How does your hair feel now @PlanetCybertron

divachyk said:

How does your hair feel now @PlanetCybertron

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It feels pretty good now. But I had quite a bit of breakage. Well, it was a lot for me. I don’t think I lost any notcible length, but it’s doing better. It’s taking to products again so I’m just gonna leave it alone.

Relaxed yesterday at 15 weeks with ORS lye. I quite liked it. I got it at the BSS in regular since no one sells mild anymore. I did a strand test and it relaxed too fast at 15 minutes so I cut it with EVOO. I'm over the whole relaxing process and I usually do half and half which is time consuming. So I decided to do my whole head at once with just gloves on. I started with my left since that side was under processed last time. Did everything in 25 minutes with slight burning only in areas that I scratched. Everything when well.
My left side still managed to be under processed though I started there first and smoothed there first. Idk what's up with that. Overall my hair seems okay. My ends are bad but I don't want to trim. Trimming does nothing for me.