Shea Growth And Retention Regimen 2019

keranikki said:

What is Vitamin F? Formaldehyde?

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Formaldehyde is a dangerous chemical used in the embalming of dead bodies, prior to burying people. It is also a component used in Brazilian straightening products. Lastly, some ingredients in hair shampoos change INTO formaldehyde but the formaldehyde is not listed on the products themselves. Which ingredient components those are, I don't know off the top of my head.

Baby products tend to NOT have these components that change into formaldehyde. That is what I use baby wash for my hair and body.

Vitamin F is a vitamin.
Vitamin F is currently called EFA (essential fatty acid), or linoleic acid (and linolenic, etc.).

(I got this from Wikipedia, but @PlanetCybertron also mentioned it up thread.)


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PlanetCybertron said:

Probably because manufactories don’t fully explain anything. Another word for vitamin F is linoleic acid. Part of the Omega 6 family. It doesn’t make up a large percentage of Shea Butter, but it’s there.

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ashbash said:

It took me 3 days but I got my hair washed, dc’d, and Shead up

I’m sick
Real sick this week and I’m hoping that I don’t neglect my hair which tends to happen when I get sick

Right now it’s feeling super soft and moisturized so hopefully it won’t take much effort to keep it this way

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I was sick every weekend, which is the only time I can wash my hair, from February until March. What I did was rinse my braids one time per week and re-applied my Shea butter. It worked beautifully for my hair!

Thus, as long as your hair has some water in it and Shea on top, it should keep really well. You may want to try to tend to it 1x per week but just moistening it with water, putting on Shea and re-braiding. Do this until you can feel better and have the energy for the next round.

I hope you feel better soon. Take care of yourself.

VictoriousBrownFlower said:

I had severe dandruff or deborrheic dermatitis growing up and believe it or not miconizole nitrate (sp?) took it away. It's been gone since 2008-9. I used it for maybe 6 months to a yr.

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In what form? Did you get a doctor's prescription? Or, did you do some concocting on your own? Miconazole nitrate is an anti-fungal, so that makes a lot of sense.

Chicoro said:

In what form? Did you get a doctor's prescription? Or, did you do some concocting on your own? Miconazole nitrate is an anti-fungal, so that makes a lot of sense.

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i used the cream. Like this but this isn't the same brand.
I used it straight up no chaser.

Do you ladies think there is a real difference between deep conditioner and the whipped shea recipes we use? I’m trying to decide if I need to add a deep conditioner to my routine, but part of me thinks that my shea mixture is kind of the same thing. Or maybe I’m just hoping that’s true because I’m hair lazy.

Chicoro said:

I washed my hair finally! My comb out was sooooooo easy. I have not combed my hair in about 3 or 4 months. I think. I do my No Comb Method. I had just two, tiny, little tangles.

This is my hair Product Free after just washing and conditioning it. It is still dripping wet in the photos.
It is uber soft and really black in color.

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My hair shrinks up to 1/3 it's length. If I were to let it dry, it would draw up and shrink to my ears. It is so soft. It is so manageable. That is such a wonderful thing for someone who is extremely tender headed who used to have monster tangles. I think my comb out was 15 minutes. Amazing! Yes!

Okay ya'll. That's enough for me this week! I'm quite happy with my progress. Shea butter is really helping me manage my hair so much better.

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@Chicoro, @caribeandiva....hmmm I feel like we have another inductee into the 2019 Shea HOF!!!! Ms. Chicoro herself with all those delicious Shea curls!

Ladies!!
I just.washed.my.hair last night after my henna treatment 3-4 wks ago, don’t judge
Welp! I did a watered down clay/aloe/rosemary oil wash with a lazy detangle (intentionally) on the back section of my hair (behind the ear) only and just hoped in the shower without putting in twists or braids. Baybayyy!! Them tangles/shed hair was easily pulled out.

Shout out to my Shea sister who said Oyin Hair Dew had a 32oz I had to cope that and was sitting on it for a few weeks. I whipped it out last night with my jar of Shea and was boo’ed up
I was not afraid of the Shea, I globed it up and my ends twirled so nice a’la @Chicoro mine looked juicy like yours boo!

It was late as I twisted my hair, watching Walking Dead on “low volume” as hubby slept. I couldn’t turn on the lights to take pics of my juicy ends now I was tempted tho
So this is my head gear today with a twisted bun in the back. I was soo heavy with the Shea, I ain’t scurred of the Shea

MizzBFly said:

Ladies!!
I just.washed.my.hair last night after my henna treatment 3-4 wks ago, don’t judge
Welp! I did a watered down clay/aloe/rosemary oil wash with a lazy detangle (intentionally) on the back section of my hair (behind the ear) only and just hoped in the shower without putting in twists or braids. Baybayyy!! Them tangles/shed hair was easily pulled out.

Shout out to my Shea sister who said Oyin Hair Dew had a 32oz I had to cope that and was sitting on it for a few weeks. I whipped it out last night with my jar of Shea and was boo’ed up
I was not afraid of the Shea, I globed it up and my ends twirled so nice a’la @Chicoro mine looked juicy like yours boo!

It was late as I twisted my hair, watching Walking Dead on “low volume” as hubby slept. I couldn’t turn on the lights to take pics of my juicy ends now I was tempted tho
So this is my head gear today with a twisted bun in the back. I was soo heavy with the Shea, I ain’t scurred of the Shea

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Look at them baby hairs all laid and slicked down beautifully!

GettingKinky said:

Do you ladies think there is a real difference between deep conditioner and the whipped shea recipes we use? I’m trying to decide if I need to add a deep conditioner to my routine, but part of me thinks that my shea mixture is kind of the same thing. Or maybe I’m just hoping that’s true because I’m hair lazy.

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ERROR! Excuse me!!!!
I would say no. But that's just my opinion. Opinions are not facts.
(I meant to say there IS a difference between deep conditioning and whipped Shea.)

Daina said:

@Chicoro, @caribeandiva....hmmm I feel like we have another inductee into the 2019 Shea HOF!!!! Ms. Chicoro herself with all those delicious Shea curls!

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Right how is she not a 2019 unicorn?!!

GettingKinky said:

Do you ladies think there is a real difference between deep conditioner and the whipped shea recipes we use? I’m trying to decide if I need to add a deep conditioner to my routine, but part of me thinks that my shea mixture is kind of the same thing. Or maybe I’m just hoping that’s true because I’m hair lazy.

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For me there is. My DC has more humectants in it, than my Shea mix. My Shea mix is more for sealing, even with the little bit of glycerin I put in it.

Perfect timing concerning DC. I don’t want to Deep Condition anymore. I’m not realizing any payoff. I didn’t DC last night but used a leave in them sealed with the Shea. Any Hi-Po ladies not deep conditioning?
Products leave my strands so quickly
-so again I don’t know. Maybe a light protein treatment but a moisture treatment doesn’t last...

Chicoro said:

Look at them baby hairs all laid and slicked down beautifully!

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Yeah Im hairy, edges and eyebrows are mere centimeters apart Plus I have like thining edges... one side is more full than another. Nothing works to thicken

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GettingKinky said:

Do you ladies think there is a real difference between deep conditioner and the whipped shea recipes we use? I’m trying to decide if I need to add a deep conditioner to my routine, but part of me thinks that my shea mixture is kind of the same thing. Or maybe I’m just hoping that’s true because I’m hair lazy.

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I'd say there's a difference but you'd have to judge for yourself whether a DC is necessary. I personally don't feel the need to use one every single week and will sometimes goes many weeks without one.

ashbash said:

Right how is she not a 2019 unicorn?!!

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Daina said:

@Chicoro, @caribeandiva....hmmm I feel like we have another inductee into the 2019 Shea HOF!!!! Ms. Chicoro herself with all those delicious Shea curls!

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I'm hoping to break through new length barriers! So, is it okay if I defer the fabulous honor until maybe end of December 2019?

I need to update the first page with all the Shea Made Hair Unicorns Hall of Fame inductees! Shea got me slipping up on my duties.

Chicoro said:

I'm hoping to break through new length barriers! So, is it okay if I defer the fabulous honor until maybe end of December 2019?

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As long as you don’t deprive us of pictures of those gorgeous shea’d up strands

ashbash said:

As long as you don’t deprive us of pictures of those gorgeous shea’d up strands

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Thank you for the compliment!
I think of the 80 pictures posted in this thread, 52 are mine!

Chicoro said:

I'm hoping to break through new length barriers! So, is it okay if I defer the fabulous honor until maybe end of December 2019?

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@Chicoro, I guess but we'll be waitin' like this come December...!

Ya'll somebody posted 14 pictures of their hair in another thread. But my Shea senses were tingling...

I see you !

WaistLengthDreams said:

Wow, look at the consistency I got. I melted it then put in the freezer for 40 minutes before whipping it up per @ElevatedEnergy 's recipe. I think I'm hooked.

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Yummy!!!!!!

GettingKinky said:

Do you ladies think there is a real difference between deep conditioner and the whipped shea recipes we use? I’m trying to decide if I need to add a deep conditioner to my routine, but part of me thinks that my shea mixture is kind of the same thing. Or maybe I’m just hoping that’s true because I’m hair lazy.

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I still dc. It's become a necessity with every wash. I never skip dcing and leave in after shampooing. I also can't live without sulfates though so maybe my hair is unique. Find what works for you. Part of the fun is in experimenting.

MizzBFly said:

Ladies!!
I just.washed.my.hair last night after my henna treatment 3-4 wks ago, don’t judge
Welp! I did a watered down clay/aloe/rosemary oil wash with a lazy detangle (intentionally) on the back section of my hair (behind the ear) only and just hoped in the shower without putting in twists or braids. Baybayyy!! Them tangles/shed hair was easily pulled out.

Shout out to my Shea sister who said Oyin Hair Dew had a 32oz I had to cope that and was sitting on it for a few weeks. I whipped it out last night with my jar of Shea and was boo’ed up
I was not afraid of the Shea, I globed it up and my ends twirled so nice a’la @Chicoro mine looked juicy like yours boo!

It was late as I twisted my hair, watching Walking Dead on “low volume” as hubby slept. I couldn’t turn on the lights to take pics of my juicy ends now I was tempted tho
So this is my head gear today with a twisted bun in the back. I was soo heavy with the Shea, I ain’t scurred of the Shea

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wooo chile thats some pretty hair!!!!!

Chicoro said:

Thank you for the compliment!
I think of the 80 pictures posted in this thread, 52 are mine!

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Lol.... but we really don't mind it in the least.

@Daina ,

Could you be so kind as to post 'those' photos of yours, from that Melanin Hair product thread, over here, please?

GettingKinky said:

Do you ladies think there is a real difference between deep conditioner and the whipped shea recipes we use? I’m trying to decide if I need to add a deep conditioner to my routine, but part of me thinks that my shea mixture is kind of the same thing. Or maybe I’m just hoping that’s true because I’m hair lazy.

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Big time yes, in my opinion.
I think it’s boils down to the physical properties that your hair has, and we all have different hair properties/needs.

I’ll use myself as an example. While my hair is very porous, there’s still a bit of methodology to how I use my products and what products to use. The last 5 inches or so of hair, soak up pretty much anything, but I still try to have a method to what I do. Shea Butter has amazing properties, but since it’s a fatty acid, it typically has a negative charge of (1) to it, unlike leave-ins, conditioners, or DC’s, which are positively charged. Presumably, my hair in general is more on the negatively charged side, hence why conditioners that specifically contain BTMS or BTCL work extremely well. The hydrophobic properties of Shea are an awesome way for me to make sure the moisture actually stays in my hair for some time, since it’s been altered quite a bit.

I bring all of that science-y stuff up because porosity can be a great tool in determining what steps you do or don’t need. Since my hair is both fine, porous, and chemically treated, right off the bat, I can assume positively charged products do a bang up job of closing my cuticles. Hence, why an actual water-based, cream DC of some sort is a must for me personally. On the flip side if someone has very low porosity, their cuticles probably have a balance of the overall net charge of their hair. (factoring in sebum production and how well they can help it get distributed throughout their hair, and also noting that hair presumably becomes or holds a positive charged when touched/combed in general ), meaning that extra DC step probably wouldn’t be needed. If they chose to apply Shea or even have it replace the DC step, it would probably prove beneficial since the aspect of porosity is something to evaluate from individual to individual.

This is all just speculation, and my opinion as well. I would have to spend some weeks thinking about and researching the actual intricacies of conditioners/DC and how they react concerning cosmetic use, and not all are made the same, or even react the same, plus everyone’s hair is different so there’s another thing to factor is too.

@PlanetCybertron

My limited understanding of a DC is that it restores nutrients and moisture to your hair. I definitely need moisture but since I have high porisity my issue is keeping the moisture in not getting it in.

Do you leave your DC in or rinse it out? I could understand the benefits of a DC if it stays on your hair and helps keep the cuticle closed to keep in the moisture. Or does the cuticle stay closed even after you rinse it out? If so I’m wondering if I can get the same benefit with rinse out conditioner that I only leave on my hair for 5 minutes while I shower.

Chicoro said:

@Daina ,

Could you be so kind as to post 'those' photos of yours, from that Melanin Hair product thread, over here, please?

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Sure can, see below!

Also I was looking through my phone and am so glad I started taking more consistent pics because it truly does help you see progress. I have hairnorexia big time and can never really see my progress...well the proof is in the pictures for me. The above pic I posted is from this week, these pics below are from December. Both twistouts done on damp hair. My almost HL hair shrinks A LOT but there is a definite difference in the hang time of each of these pics. I hope when I straighten it means I've made it to HL.

GettingKinky said:

@PlanetCybertron

My limited understanding of a DC is that it restores nutrients and moisture to your hair. I definitely need moisture but since I have high porisity my issue is keeping the moisture in not getting it in.

Do you leave your DC in or rinse it out? I could understand the benefits of a DC if it stays on your hair and helps keep the cuticle closed to keep in the moisture. Or does the cuticle stay closed even after you rinse it out? If so I’m wondering if I can get the same benefit with rinse out conditioner that I only leave on my hair for 5 minutes while I shower.

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Oh yeah that’s definitely what they do. You don’t have to get all fancy with it lol. Only reason I like to differentiate is because often times many typical store bought DC are pretty much formulated like any rinse out conditioner. I believe @Chicoro mentioned a very crucial property to moisturizing and sealing. In that the water is what you’re trying to seal in, as far as the actual polymers and creams in a typical DC, they are what is providing the smoothness that’s associated with deep conditioning.

I personally rinse out certain deep conditioners if they’re heavy. Of the few I decide to leave in, particularly SM Manuka Honey DC, and the Mielle Organics Mint DC, and I just slightly rinse out the excess, or I’ll dilute it and treat it as a leave-in. Every other deep conditioner I use, I rinse it out.

As far as the cuticle closing I can’t say a definite answer because a lot of stuff varies. For me personally, if I don’t apply some sort of leave in or leave a bit of the DC in, and then seal it in some sort of way, whatever water that is blended into the solution will evaporate from my hair, or diffuse, or whatever you want to call it. It’s the drying stage that I should’ve mentioned would also be important.

And I’d say you can leave in it on, rinse some of it out, or rinse it out, apply a bit to the ends, air dry, and proceed with your choice of styling. I’d just pay attention to whatever sealant you use, how quickly you apply it after getting out of the shower, and that’s completely up to you as well.