Woman Killed At J'ouvert Festival After Telling Man To Stop Grinding On Her

Noir

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The shooter :mad:


No no that's not the shooter :( He is another victim that was also killed by a stray bullet at the parade.
 

Mrs. Verde

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There is a meme all over FB of a young black woman with a banging body, passed out on a couch drunk after a party. It asks what would you do if you found her in your house and 90 % of the men said they would grope, touch, finger, hump etc before waking her up and tossing her out. That booty was too fine to pass up. Majority of the offenders were black men. I was so horrified. If I come across it again, I will post it here.
That's disgusting.
 

MariposaSexyGirl

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There is a meme all over FB of a young black woman with a banging body, passed out on a couch drunk after a party. It asks what would you do if you found her in your house and 90 % of the men said they would grope, touch, finger, hump etc before waking her up and tossing her out. That booty was too fine to pass up. Majority of the offenders were black men. I was so horrified. If I come across it again, I will post it here.
I don't know why I come in sad threads like these. It evokes something in me that I can't control :(. I hate how women are treated. Hate it!
 

ChasingBliss

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There is a meme all over FB of a young black woman with a banging body, passed out on a couch drunk after a party. It asks what would you do if you found her in your house and 90 % of the men said they would grope, touch, finger, hump etc before waking her up and tossing her out. That booty was too fine to pass up. Majority of the offenders were black men. I was so horrified. If I come across it again, I will post it here.
And this is wtf I am talking about when I say be a friggen fly on the wall of most men's conversations when they think it's only them and you will hear ish like this and worse...Even from these so called upstanding men some women like to defend.. They are disgusting. I feel many women have this romanticized view of how men sexualize them. They imagine what he's feeling or thinking and they feel sexy and proud. But usually what he's thinking is vile and you are basically his blow up doll in his mind and all the disgusting things men might do to the blow up doll. Some of y'all need to stop thinking these men love your ass...when they just love dat ass.

Whew what's wrong with me today? I swear I have too many 20something clients with man problems. I hear it ALL.
 

Menina Preta

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So sad. I don't think they should cancel the actual parade but they should probably get rid of Jouvert. New Yorkers don't know how to act during carnival time. SMH. I will never attend Jouvert in NYC, period.
 

Crackers Phinn

Either A Blessing Or A Lesson.
That is on purpose. He's setting up his case to claim this was an accident so he will be charged with manslaughter instead of murder. Manslaughter carries a shorter sentence.

Family Outraged As Brooklyn Man Acquitted In Murder Of Tiarah Poyau At J’Ouvert Festival

The family of Tiarah Poyau was inconsolable after a Brooklyn jury found Regenald Moise not guilty of murder Thursday. The 22-year-old Poyau, who was getting her master's degree in accounting from St. John's University, died after being shot in the face during a 2016 J’Ouvert celebration in the Crown Heights section of Brooklyn.

After two days of deliberation, the jury found Moise guilty of only the lesser charges — criminally negligent homicide and weapons possession — and he now faces prison sentences of just 1 1/3 to 4 years and a max of 15 years for each charge respectively.

“I will never be able to see my child walk down the aisle. I’ll never be able to feel what it’s like to hold a grandchild," Poyau's mother, Vertina Brown, said after the verdict.

"We are just in disbelief the jury came back with the verdict of criminal negligence — how can they not see that this man has killed my child. The system has failed Tiarah Poyau.”

In 2016, police sources told The Associated Press and the Daily Mail that Poyau was walking with three friends during the all-night J'Ouvert festival at around 4:15 a.m. when Moise came from behind and attempted to grind on her. She told him no before he allegedly shot her in the eye at close range.

Police said Moise texted a friend admitting that he shot someone and "didnt realize his gun was loaded." He asked if he could stash the gun at his friend's place before fleeing to his girlfriend's apartment, where the gun went off again, prompting neighbors to call the police. Moise tried to get away from the apartment but crashed his car and was eventually stopped by the police. They found the gun that killed Poyau at the apartment of Moise's girlfriend.

According to Chief of Detectives Robert Boyce, Moise admitted to police that the gun went off. Despite the overwhelming evidence — including shell casings from the scene that matched the gun Moise admitted was his — prosecutors could not tie his DNA to the crime scene, and the jury let him off of the most severe charge.

Poyau, the daughter of a Trinidadian police officer, had interned for PricewaterhouseCoopers twice and was slated to be hired full-time once she finished her degree.

“My heart is broken," Poyau's mother said. "I feel like I lost her all over again. He murdered my child.”
 

blackgurll

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No!
Too many people just don't value the lives of women, and black women in particular. This is especially puzzling when black women hold up more than their share.
As is typical of media reports on crimes like these, even the way it's reported absolves this man of her killing. "They found the gun that killed Poyau at the apartment of Moise's girlfriend." Guns don't get up and kill people. "They found the gun he used to kill Poyau" would have been better.
Too much to unpack here, and too angry and too weary to do it.
 

SoopremeBeing

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Ok y’all, I’m pissed too. But he only got off on a technicality....1st degree murder implies intent and pre-meditation. They had to prove that he planned the killing and intended to kill her. Also the fact that he was drunk worked in his favor. Can’t think correctly when you’re drunk and/or high. IMO, he should have gotten 2nd degree murder....I think he meant to kill her, he just didn’t plan it beforehand.

It’s absolute BS how the law works. They will truly fail if they do not give him the max for the charges that he did get convicted of. However, if I remember correctly, weapons charges in NY are an automatic 10 year sentence. Now considering he’s got priors, he may very well get that. I personally believe he should get the max for both convictions.
 

Crackers Phinn

Either A Blessing Or A Lesson.
Ok y’all, I’m pissed too. But he only got off on a technicality....1st degree murder implies intent and pre-meditation. They had to prove that he planned the killing and intended to kill her. Also the fact that he was drunk worked in his favor. Can’t think correctly when you’re drunk and/or high. IMO, he should have gotten 2nd degree murder....I think he meant to kill her, he just didn’t plan it beforehand.

It’s absolute BS how the law works. They will truly fail if they do not give him the max for the charges that he did get convicted of. However, if I remember correctly, weapons charges in NY are an automatic 10 year sentence. Now considering he’s got priors, he may very well get that. I personally believe he should get the max for both convictions.
I could buy that he didn't intend to kill her if she had just been a bystander and the gun went off. It's hard to believe that he accidentally shot the victim directly in the face after being told to stop grinding on her. That's an awful big coincidence.
 

SoopremeBeing

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I could buy that he didn't intend to kill her if she had just been a bystander and the gun went off. It's hard to believe that he accidentally shot the victim directly in the face after being told to stop grinding on her. That's an awful big coincidence.

Exactly, that’s why I said 2nd degree murder. He probably would have gotten convicted of that if they charged him correctly from the beginning.

These prosecutors tend to over-charge suspects, and I am not sure why. They are supposed to go over the facts and evidence thoroughly before they start charging people. That’s how families, like this young lady’s, go through additional trauma when 1st degree murder charges don’t stick.

The main difference between 1st and 2nd degree is pre-planning, which 2nd degree lacks. He intended to kill her, no doubt. Did he leave the house that day intending to kill anyone, particularly her? Maybe not....but that burden was on the prosecutor to prove, and they didnt. Had they charged him with 2nd degree from the gate, he’d Be in prison for the rest of his life.
 

GreenEyedJen

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The prosecutor did the right thing--charged him with murder and also included the lesser offenses, which is how he got charged with negligent homicide. They may not have argued the case well, or he had a good attorney, but it wasn't the charges that did them in.
 
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