The Covid-19 Thread: News, Preparation Tips, Etc

sheanu

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I’m just in awe at people who think hand sanitizer is the only way to keep your hands clean. “Oh my gosh no more Purell Mr. President what are we supposed to do?!” Soap and water fools! Purell should not be the main source for hand cleansing. I’m convinced a lot of people are now washing their hands for the first time in years.
I was behind some white girls at Walmart and they were complaining about how dry their hands were from washing them so often. I'm like... so is this a first for y'all?
 

TrulyBlessed

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I wear latex gloves at work. Wipe them down with a Clorox wipe after coming out of the brewery side. Type away and keep it moving. When I have to use the restroom I remove them, go wash my hands with soap and put a new pair of gloves on. When I have to leave the office and go near the machines, i put the gloves back on.
:cheers:

I was behind some white girls at Walmart and they were complaining about how dry their hands were from washing them so often. I'm like... so is this a first for y'all?

 

cocosweet

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I was behind some white girls at Walmart and they were complaining about how dry their hands were from washing them so often. I'm like... so is this a first for y'all?
:lachen: Probably.

All I can say is in my travails over these last few weeks, I did not see soap shortages because everyone was buying the other things. Soap, the best weapon against corona, was always in stock. These posts have me afraid to go shopping tomorrow.
 

rayne

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The casinos near me put hand sanitizing stations throughout their properties.

They also said they're continually replenishing the soap in the restrooms and they're routinely cleaning machines, tables, and dining surfaces. I don't know if they meant that they're doing that more frequently or if they were just letting people know that that's what they do.

It was just announced that all casinos in IL will be closed for 2 weeks. So I can relax a little bit. I hope other casinos follow suit or at the very least do what the casinos near you are doing.
 

tibb1908

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He also has to think about the parents who are still reporting to work. If you close the schools and parents can't stay home with their kids or make appropriate arrangements for childcare, you might end up with bands of roving youth causing terror and mayhem in stores and on the streets. especially since spring break is right around the corner. Unlike college students, most public K-12 students in NYC can't do online learning so unless they have something to do, boredom might lead to some not so great outcomes.

That's a parenting issue. I feel like they would have been doing the same thing w/o school closures if that how they're allowed to roll.
 

B_Phlyy

Pineapple Eating Unicorn
Me and DH just got back from Meijer and Wal-Mart. No TP, bottled water, or hand sanitizer at all. Small amount of natural soap and loads of toilet cleaner. Certain foods had quantity limits on them but we were able to get the canned good we needed. There wasn't much salt but we were at a rural county area so I assume the ladies who can food took it all.

We got the last of the Lysol at both places because we happened upon the stock person as they were opening the box. Because that's what the issue is. It seems most stores are getting new stock everyday, some places even twice. But if you basically aren't there when the workers are stocking the shelves, you're going to miss out.
 

meka72

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The Coronavirus Diet

(Credit NPR)
Part of what makes coronavirus so scary for some people is the feeling of helplessness. There's no vaccine and no cure. We simply have to sit and wait and hope.

Maybe we're not totally helpless though. Just like hand washing can help lower our chances of getting the virus, a healthy diet may aid us in fighting it off. If you contract COVID-19, you're relying on your body's immune system to recognize the enemy and create antibodies to defeat it.

If this were an actual war between humans, and there was an enemy at the gates, wouldn't we want our army to be strong, well-fed, and ready for battle? The same logic can be used when we're thinking about our immune system. We want our white blood cells warriors to be capable of swiftly defeating the enemy.

Just as human warriors who are starving, nearsighted, hard of hearing, or disabled would have a harder time defeating an enemy, our immune system has a harder time defeating viruses when it's handicapped by a lack of nutrients.

You won't hear this advice from most medical professionals. Nutrition is not well-studied by most doctors. Their continued education is often facilitated by pharmaceutical companies, not the kiwi fruit coalition. As a result, "natural" medical interventions are often used as last resorts, instead of our first line of defense.

Let's take a look at what we can do to train our army of immune cells and prepare for battle with coronavirus:

Selenium
Eat a couple Brazil nuts every day.
Coronavirus seems to steal from your body's selenium reserves. In addition, for immune cells to have a high killing capability, they need antioxidants to protect themselves, which are supported partly by selenium [1].

It would be smart to start eating foods high in selenium, including oysters, liver, and sardines. Shrimp, eggs, and salmon are all good sources of selenium as well. If you're vegan or looking for the easiest solution, have a couple Brazil nuts every day and you'll be getting all the selenium your body needs. Don't overdo it on the Brazil nuts though–ten is not better than two in this case.

Vitamin C
Pop a Vitamin C tablet every day, 500–1,000 mg.
Vitamin C is helpful against many viral infections, but vitamin C deficiency is widespread. 31% of Americans have inadequate intakes of vitamin C [2]. Vitamin C is needed to maintain levels of glutathione, the immune system's primary antioxidant and a key component of being able to fight off pathogens.

Vitamin C is one of the safest nutrients. While many nutrients are actually toxic at megadoses, vitamin C has been found to be safe at almost any dose. It's one of the most well-studied supplements, and certainly safe to supplement at doses of a few grams per day. Some doctors have suggested that megadoses of vitamin C are an effective treatment against coronavirus, but the jury is still out on those claims [3].

It is possible to get enough vitamin C from food, but you'll have to eat a lot of citrus fruits, bell peppers, kiwis, broccoli, and kale. To be safe, it's probably best to supplement with 500 mg of vitamin C per day.

Vitamin D, Vitamin A, Water
Get plenty of sunshine, drink enough water, and eat orange foods.
Wherever coronavirus might enter your body–mouth, nose, and eyes–you have compounds that kill pathogenic microbes. Secreting enough of these compounds is dependent on having enough vitamin D, vitamin A, and water.

The best source of vitamin D is the sun. The UV rays in sunlight also happen to kill viruses and give you an attractive tan. Triple win. If you don't get much sun, consider supplementing with vitamin D3.

Eat foods rich in vitamin A, including liver and egg yolks. While the form of vitamin A found in plant foods is not as bioavailable, it is still helpful. Carotenoids like beta-carotene in sweet potatoes, carrots, and squash and lycopene in tomatoes are what give those foods their orange and red colors. Dark leafy greens like kale, spinach, and chard are also good sources of vitamin A precursors.

For water, you don't need to overdo it. Just don't be dehydrated. Listen to your body; if you're thirsty, drink water.

Iron
If you eat red meat, don't supplement iron.
Iron is a tricky one. While your body's immune system needs iron to be most effective against pathogens, too much iron can also feed the pathogens themselves. Iron is an essential mineral for nearly all life, including coronavirus. Not enough iron and your immune system is limited; too much iron and your body can't starve pathogens of this key mineral.

If you're eating a real food diet that includes red meat, you're probably getting enough iron from food. To prevent iron overload, avoid iron supplementation and give blood regularly (for men and post-menopausal women). If you don't eat meat or shellfish, your risk of having excessive iron levels is low.

Vitamin C also enhances iron absorption, so there's more for you and less for unwelcome pathogenic visitors.

Zinc and Copper
Enjoy oysters and dark chocolate.
Just like with vitamin C and iron, it's important to get enough zinc and copper to give your immune cells the best chance of success in battle against coronavirus. Fortunately, the foods highest in zinc and copper are also delicious.

Shellfish and especially oysters are by far the best source of zinc, with a half dozen oysters per week mostly satisfying your zinc requirements. Chocolate is an excellent source of copper, with just a few squares of dark chocolate (85% or above) per day satisfying your copper requirements.

Cashews are also a good source of both zinc and copper.

Iodine
Eat stuff from the sea.
Iodine is an extremely effective mineral employed by our body for immune killing. Like with vitamin C, high dose iodine treatment has been used to cure some infectious conditions.

To keep your immune warriors strong, feed them a few hundred micrograms of iodine daily. You can supplement with iodine, or simply eat foods from the sea. On days you eat seafood, shellfish, or sea vegetables, there is no need to supplement.

My favorite form of iodine "supplementation" is to eat seaweed snacks.

Smoking and Air Pollution
Don't smoke.
Coronavirus started in Wuhan, China, where air pollution is a major problem and a high percentage of the male population smokes. Whereas only 3% of Chinese women have smoked, 62% of Chinese men have been smokers at some point. The coronavirus death rate among men in China is 2.8% compared to 1.7% for women, and some point the finger at smoking rates to explain the difference [4].

Coronavirus seems to work by binding to the ACE2 receptor in the lungs. One study found that cigarette smokers have a higher density of ACE2 receptors. If that relationship is causal, lung health may play a major role in fighting the virus, and air quality would play a role as well [5, 6]. While there's not much you can do if you live in an extremely polluted city, you can certainly refrain from intentionally sucking down smoke in the form of cigarettes.

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Summing it up, in order to boost your immune system in preparation for battle with coronavirus, you may want to get more of the following:

Brazil nuts, bell peppers, kale, kiwis, broccoli, liver, egg yolks, sweet potatoes, carrots, squash, oysters, dark chocolate, cashews, shellfish, seaweed, clean air, water, and sunshine.

Even if/when coronavirus is no longer a threat, we want our immune systems to be strong, healthy, and able to easily fight off infection.

Our immune system is not just sitting around waiting for the next outbreak; with every breath of outdoor air, we take in 50,000 germs [7]. While most of these germs do not cause us to get sick, they do keep our immune system busy, regardless of coronavirus.

https://www.jeffnobbs.com/posts/the-coronavirus-diet
 

intellectualuva

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Its crazy. It feels like we've been talking about this thing for several months, but the thread only started 1/24 and then I commented 1/26. It hasnt even been 2 months where most of that time folks (not us) were saying this is their problem/not that serious and only in the last few days transitioned to the Book of Eli. Lol. The tide shifted very quickly. Its good to see though especially since social distancing and other measures appear to work.

What I am curious about is if it's going to go away very quickly come summer especially given what folks are doing now to limit the spread.

I did hear that Japan has a reinfection case. I'll post the story when I find it.

They need to ban travel to and from the uk at this point. The first 2 cases in Jamaica were from the uk. Plus the Canadian pm wife got it from there too. My sister is talking about buying tickets to come and visit me from the uk. I told her not to but she is still looking. I just saw on bbc news that the insurance industry will not cover coronovirus travel claims

Agreed. I didn't understand how Trump "banned" all the European countries except UK but that's whose going to African and Caribbean countries with the virus too. It's weird. It makes me wonder if this is related back to the shady US UK Trade deal.
 

intellectualuva

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Japan confirms first case of person re-infected with coronavirus

The reinfection has health officials worried the illness could stay dormant after signs of recovery.

By
Joseph Guzman


  • Officials in Osaka say a tour bus guide tested positive for COVID-19 for a second time.
  • There have been a number of cases of reinfection in China.
  • Japan’s prime minister has asked schools to close in an effort to curb the outbreak.
Japan is reporting its first case of a person becoming reinfected with the coronavirus after showing signs they had fully recovered, according to Reuters.

Japan is reporting its first case of a person becoming reinfected with the coronavirus after showing signs they had fully recovered, according to Reuters.

Osaka’s prefectural government confirmed Wednesday a woman working as a tour bus guide tested positive for coronavirus for the second time after developing a sore throat and chest pain. The woman, who is said to be in her 40s, first tested positive in late January and was discharged from the hospital on Feb. 1 after showing signs of recovery.

Reuters reports Health Minister Katsunobu Kato said the government would need to monitor the condition of others who were infected and later discharged as health experts investigate testing positive for COVID-19 after an initial recovery.

As much remains unknown about the virus, cases of reinfection have health experts worried that the illness could remain dormant after an apparent recovery.

“Once you have the infection, it could remain dormant with minimal symptoms,” Philip Tierno Jr., professor of microbiology and pathology at New York University, told Reuters.

“And then you can get an exacerbation if it finds its way into the lungs,” he said.

There have been a number of cases of reinfection in China, particularly in Wuhan province where the coronavirus outbreak originated in late December.

There are more than 200 confirmed cases of the flu-like illness in Japan, excluding the 639 cases from the Diamond Princess cruise ship under quarantine in Yokohama.

The country’s schools are being asked to close from March 2 until their upcoming spring break in an effort to contain the virus, Prime Minister Shinzo Abe said Thursday.

The outbreak has spread rapidly, infecting about 80,000 people worldwide and leaving nearly 2,800 dead, the majority of which have been in mainland China.

https://thehill.com/changing-americ...apan-confirms-first-case-of-person-reinfected
 

awhyley

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But it's not even good toilet paper. It's that one and a half ply what you get in public restrooms.
Besides, unless you have a septic tank toilet situation, I don't understand stockpiling tp when there are literally tissue, napkins and paper towel everywhere. And if absolute worst came to worst, then it's called use old face towels and wash them the same way people do cloth diapers.

Doesn't matter. Opportunities . . . :lachen:

TP realness.jpg
 

Phoenix

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I think everyone is over reacting but I’m still getting my disaster kit together and rooting for everyone black

someone mentioned their pastor y’all still going to church and mega church :look:

My church just canceled in-person services and I’m so glad they did. If they hadn’t, I know my parents would have gone. I told them not to go last week and they went. Now we find out a church member is under self-quarantine due to possible exposure on an international cruise. They are both over 70 with underlying health issues, but I can’t get them to stay their behinds at home!
 

Black Ambrosia

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Yiiikes this is worrisome. So China already had cases of people being reinfected? Has anyone else heard about this before this article?
I saw an article about this and my coworkers were ready to fight me when I told them that getting the virus doesn’t give you immunity from getting it again. I’ll post the article when I get a chance but I’m sure it has the same details.
 

Dee Raven

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My church just canceled in-person services and I’m so glad they did. If they hadn’t, I know my parents would have gone. I told them not to go last week and they went. Now we find out a church member is under self-quarantine due to possible exposure on an international cruise. They are both over 70 with underlying health issues, but I can’t get them to stay their behinds at home!

How are you dealing with the stress of your parents. My mom is 71, recently became legally blind and has been taking the bus in the Bay Area where there are many active cases and she's mad at me because I told her that the CDC said anyone over 60 needs to start distancing. I am so frustrated. Groan. Why do I have to wait for the government to shut things down instead of her taking the safety recommendations prescribed by the the CDC and WHO. Are you just letting it go?
 

Everything Zen

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The reinfection is the only reason why FH is taking it seriously now. Unfortunately he takes conspiracy theories way left and went all crazy on the coronavirus in the first place. I was the one trying to get him to calm down and educated him on the flu and sent him the Dr. Drew video and then he wouldn’t take anything seriously when everything was shutting down. So I guess this is my fault and he was right the first time. :look:

Update: I had to send him grocery shopping today and he was floored to see what’s happening (same thing that happened to me the other day just going to get a few things). Now he’s on high alert bc of his military background. He’s been disaster planning for years and has been prepping a place for us outside of the cities but I think that’s a bit extreme for this situation. :look:
 
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Chicoro

5 Year Shea Anniversary: Started Dec 16th, 2016!
In 2014 Bill Gates gave a TED Talk. He stated the biggest threat to people is not nucleur annihilation by missiles, but annihilation by microbes, a virus.

This is because there is not a lot funding, money and resources put in place to deal with epidemics.


Why Ebola didn't spread farther than the three main African countries:
  1. There was a lot of heroic effort and work done by the health workers.
    • They found the people [usually identified as 'patients zero']. They prevented more infections. (Italy has never found patient zero or publicly announced it in the case of the COVID-19.)
  2. The nature of the virus. Ebola does NOT spread through the air. Thus, people who are contagious, most are so sick that they are bedridden and can't get up from their beds. The contagious people are not mobile. ( There is no consensus that the COVID-19 virus is spread through the air.)
  3. It did not get into/reach urban places. Gates says, "That was just luck." (This virus has reached urban places.)

"So next time, we might not be so lucky. You can have a virus where people feel well enough that they can get on a plane or go to a market. The source of the virus could be a natural epidemic like Ebola, or it could be bio-terrorism. And so there are things that would literally make things 1000 times worse. [...] This is a serious problem. We should be concerned. But in fact, we CAN BUILD a really good response system..."

Bill Gates

The World Bank Estimates that if there is a global outbreak, Global Wealth will go down, be lost in the amount of 3 Trillion Dollars! This is based upon a mathematical model, assuming there were 10 of millions of deaths.

My observation is that Gates makes the assumption that the next epidemic will occur in a Third World, poverty stricken country. Perhaps that may be why things didn't seem to change.

The irony is that epidemic started in a highly modern, urban city that is a global travel hub. Now, those proverbial chickens are coming home to roost as this situation has arrived at the doorstep of some of the wealthiest First World, wealth laden countries in the world. Ironically, those Third World, poverty stricken countries are up to now, the least impacted.

I believe that we may be down, but we are not OUT for the count. There is hope and help on the way and the infections and deaths are peaking in China and perhaps Italy, too.
 
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