The Covid-19 Thread: News, Preparation Tips, Etc

Artemis24

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https://nypost.com/2020/03/19/20-ye..._medium=referral&utm_campaign=zergnet_4993557


The tragic 20-year-old soccer coach who is one of the youngest known coronavirus victims had been sent home twice while seeking help — told by his doctor that there was “no need to worry,” according to his family.

Spanish youth coach Francisco Garcia — who would have turned 21 in October — initially thought he had a common cold when he fell ill on March 6, his stepfather, Juan Fernandez, told the Sun.

“He had a sore throat but he didn’t have a temperature,” Fernandez said, with his stepson seeing his doctor in Malaga three days later.

“His doctor told him to take paracetamol [acetaminophen] and sent him home and said there was no need to worry.”

It looks like he also had undiagnosed leukemia.
 

Chicoro

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LOVE THIS and your spirit! Thank you so much for this reminder!!

yesterday was a nice break from the news for me. i feel more clearheaded and in better spirits. If you are feeling anxious or worried, I truly encourage you to try it, even if for a few hours.

I also had a thought- the coronavirus infections and deaths may be underreported but perhaps the amount of recoveries are too.

Wonderful point!
 

Chicoro

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Some More Good News:

These gentleman asked some really good questions during their interview with Dr. Fauci. They are millenials, the two hosts.

Encouraging point Dr. Fauci mentions: The time China realized it had a problem in December to today, with no new cases reported, was an 8 to 10 week time frame. In the scheme of things, that is not a long time.

Dr. Fauci inferred that with mitigation and constraints, that the US may be able to cut this time frame down and make it shorter.

 
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Chicoro

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In Low Priority/LowImportance Coronavirus related news:

I had no idea that Dr. Anthony Fauci is 79 years old!!!!! He looks great! Stating the obvious, he's almost an octogenarian, almost 80 years old!

He walks 3.5 miles a day.

Anthony Fauci net worth is
$11 Million


I figured he was rich after I learned his age. Very few broke people look that good, at that age.
 
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Chicoro

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In this ABC interview clip, they clearly show Dr. Fauci touching his face. That in itself is no big deal.

In this interview with ABC news, he says he never, touched his face. Yet, it clearly shows him touching his face @10 minutes in the video, posted below.






In the interview with the millennials I posted above in another thread and below in this post, he was ADAMANT about saying he NEVER touched his face during that press conference. The picture shows the contrary. But he DID touch his face. (It starts @ 28:00 minutes: where he says he didn't touch his face.

 
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Dee Raven

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It looks like he also had undiagnosed leukemia.

You know I was just thinking about this point yesterday. They say that it affects seniors and people with underlying medical conditions. How many people of all ages are walking around with unknown underlying medical conditions? You don't wake up one morning and think I've got cancer today. So many people get diagnosed late in their illness. I used to work for an orthopedic surgeon. Patients had to be cleared before surgery. There were a number of patients would come back and have to postpone because they found out they were stage 1 cancer. They had no symptoms. The only reason they had gotten checked was because they needed a joint replacement. The messaging that as long as your not old or have an underlying condition your fine is the wrong message.
 

Chicoro

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You know I was just thinking about this point yesterday. They say that it affects seniors and people with underlying medical conditions. How many people of all ages are walking around with unknown underlying medical conditions? You don't wake up one morning and think I've got cancer today. So many people get diagnosed late in their illness. I used to work for an orthopedic surgeon. Patients had to be cleared before surgery. There were a number of patients would come back and have to postpone because they found out they were stage 1 cancer. They had no symptoms. The only reason they had gotten checked was because they needed a joint replacement. The messaging that as long as your not old or have an underlying condition your fine is the wrong message.

Excellent points. Important points.
 

Chicoro

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Some More Good News: Things that Mitigate and Lower the # number of Cases Over Time - Actions that Make a Difference
@15:45 in the video Friday March 20th, John Campbell YouTube Channel
  • Massive Testing
  • Contact Tracking
  • Quarantining
  • Social Distancing
    • Wearing Gloves (not stated in video)
    • Washing Hands (not stated in video)

 

shelli4018

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My observations based upon no verified data.

Take this information with a grain of salt. My logic may just be stupid.
I have no formal data, only my observations. So what I am saying could be a bunch of hooey and crap. Or, it may afford you some useful information.

My Observations:
I understand the virus has hot spots on the West Coast. Based upon my observations of the hot spots of the outbreaks around the world, I think that New York is going to have the highest and fastest surge. Then, the wave may move from East to West.

New York is the 3rd or 4th most populated state, depending upon which source you reference.

  1. California
  2. Texas
  3. New York
  4. Florida

But, it may be the largest port of entry for people legal and illegal and trafficked people.

Although Latin American people and South American people come through the US border on the West Coast, the majority of South Americans head to Western and Central Europe, which is the current epicenters for the surges in the virus.

I am talking about people who are clandestine and undocumented. I believe these undocumented people pose the greatest threat. Not because they are bad people, but because it is hard to identify them and track them and test them. Italy has never found "patient zero". They have only found "patient one" who I believe may have been a 30 year old male.

Why do I say this? Because the maps of human trafficking match, and could be overlayed over the the hotspots in the world.

Notice the flows and destinations of human trafficking:






Look at the a screen shot of the early John Hopkins interactive map:




You can see a correlation between this map's hot spots and the destinations and of the trafficking map. China has three (3) inflows to the destination areas, which were the initial hot spots for the Covid-19. This correlation could be mere coincidence and it could be correlation with no real meaning.


This is why I feel that there will be a surge in cases on the East Coast. Then, that wave will move across the US to the the West Coast, with California, Texas, Florida and Illinois being impacted by their own waves and surges.
This may explain the situation near Seattle and San Francisco too. Both have significant tech business with lots of foreign workers.
 

Chicoro

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This may explain the situation near Seattle and San Francisco too. Both have significant tech business with lots of foreign workers.


Very good point for us to know. Thank you! I think this is important.

The other critical component to know, are these foreign workers traceable? If they are traceable, as in legally here, then that helps ease the contact trace back process and helps combat the problem enormously. The complexity seems to come when you address people who on paper 'don't really exist'.
 

shelli4018

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Very good point for us to know. Thank you! I think this is important.

The other critical component to know, are these foreign workers traceable? If they are traceable, as in legally here, then that helps ease the contact trace back process and helps combat the problem enormously. The complexity seems to come when you address people who on paper 'don't really exist'.
You’d think we’d see similar patterns in college towns with international students. But maybe students don’t have the funds for leisure travel like tech workers do.
 

Chicoro

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You’d think we’d see similar patterns in college towns with international students. But maybe students don’t have the funds for leisure travel like tech workers do.


You just may.

The virus seems to be just ramping up in the US. I don't think the outbreak has really gotten started yet where people see and feel the scope and reality of it.

When it takes hold, cases increase exponentially. Cases jump literally, which feels like, overnight.
 

Chicoro

5 Year Shea Anniversary: Started Dec 16th, 2016!
Hold down the fort, my Pretty, Precious, Pen Pals.

Still yourselves with calm and inner peace. It takes work and focus, but it's worth it.

Listen to your intuition and your and inner guidance. They will lead and guide you safely and securely, in the right direction.
 
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B_Phlyy

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You just may.

The virus seems to be just ramping up in the US. I don't think the outbreak has really gotten started yet where people see and feel the scope and reality of it.

When it takes hold, cases increase exponentially. Cases jump literally, which feels like, overnight.

Some More Good News: Things that Mitigate and Lower the # number of Cases Over Time - Actions that Make a Difference
@15:45 in the video Friday March 20th, John Campbell YouTube Channel
  • Massive Testing
  • Contact Tracking
  • Quarantining
  • Social Distancing
    • Wearing Gloves (not stated in video)
    • Washing Hands (not stated in video)


Can I just say thank you @Chicoro for being a beautiful beacon of light in this. Your words really are so encouraging in this thread. I swear I can feel your positive energy as if I'm in the room with you.

And I do agree with your assessment about the current scale of this. Due to the lack of large scale testing, I truly believe all countries have under diagnosed the virus. Not on purpose or with malicious intent (at least I hope not) but due to the fact that there aren't enough tests and therefore they are selecting who to test (money>symptoms in this case). The fact that so many NBA players are testing positive with no symptoms is telling. Based on the criteria of which patients are being listed as high risk, they should be excluded (young men, not many underlying health conditions, excellent immune system) but they have it. And the fact that it takes so long for the test results to come back, you have to track contact back probably 3-4 weeks. For a regular person, that's easily 100 people from just general passing. A celeb or person in power, 10x more.

If wide scale testing with quick result turnaround becomes available, we really are going to see this ramp up. There are too many symptomatic people showing up at the ER and being negative for flu to say otherwise. At this point, having symptoms and a negative flu test should automatically have the test done.
 
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