Transformer
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I wondering what will be the increased death toll due the non availability of medical care for thoes suffering from other illnesses.
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Jmartjrmd
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Ok great. Got it all covered. Best wishes for her!! I just saw the Patriots went and got 1.5 million masks so hopefully she will have PPE.
I wanted to go but got scolded by everyone. So I guess I gotta sit this one out.
dancinstallion
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More than actual covid deaths
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MomofThreeBoys
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Another reason I wanted her at a private hospital, less worries about PPE.
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'I literally thought I wasn’t gonna make it': 29-year-old Ga. nurse, bodybuilder on ventilator for COVID-19 improves
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While intubated with breathing tubes down his throat, Quawn James took a selfie. He didn’t know if he would make it out alive, but he knew what he wanted to do with the picture if he did.
“I knew I needed to take a picture. I knew that if I did make it, I was gonna make a post and say ‘Yea, you’ve got someone here with no health problems at all, health care provider, physically healthy and this is what happened to me,'" said James.
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29-year-old Georgia nurse, bodybuilder on ventilator for COVID-19 improves
It started about three weeks ago when the 29-year-old nurse practitioner and avid flag football player thought he had a cold. He had a fever, chills and body aches. At the time, no coughing or shortness of breath.
He admitted himself into the Emory St. Joseph campus near Dunwoody, where he worked in its ER for nearly five years.
RELATED: Coronavirus updates: US death toll eclipses China's official count
At first, staff diagnosed him with pneumonia. The hospital tested him for COVID-19 by putting a cotton swab in the back of his nose. It came back negative.
James asked for another test. This time, staff took a sample of his mucus from the back of throat. That test confirmed he had COVID-19.
About that same time, James couldn’t breathe on his own. The virus also caused his heart to enlarge.
The scariest moment, though, happened when his breathing tube clogged -- cutting off his oxygen.
“At that moment in time, I did not think I was going to make it because it took a while for the nurses to get in there,” said James.
The virus caught James by surprise because he does not have any underlying health conditions. He’s competed in bodybuilding events and watches what he puts in his body.
“Before this, I had not even had a cold in eight years. So, for this to happen, it was very shocking,” James said.
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While in the ICU, James said he could not receive visitors. Even some hospital staff were nervous about coming into his room.
“When you’re in the hospital, and in isolation, it feels like you’re left behind. Like, no one wants to come into your room because you have to put on all this gear,” said James. “I got to the point where I just asked the nurse if she can just leave stuff at the door and they actually did it. Like, they wouldn’t come inside there.”
James is not sure how he contracted the virus. He specializes in addiction and mental health recovery. So, he currently does not work in a traditional hospital setting.
After nearly 10 days in the ICU, James is now home. He posted the picture he took of himself intubated on social media to warn other young people who don’t think they’re at risk, that this could happen to them.
“As someone as healthy as I was, I was literally on my death bed. And I’m trying to tell people they need to take care of themselves and they need to take this seriously,” said James.
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While intubated with breathing tubes down his throat, Quawn James took a selfie. He didn’t know if he would make it out alive, but he knew what he wanted to do with the picture if he did.
“I knew I needed to take a picture. I knew that if I did make it, I was gonna make a post and say ‘Yea, you’ve got someone here with no health problems at all, health care provider, physically healthy and this is what happened to me,'" said James.
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29-year-old Georgia nurse, bodybuilder on ventilator for COVID-19 improves
It started about three weeks ago when the 29-year-old nurse practitioner and avid flag football player thought he had a cold. He had a fever, chills and body aches. At the time, no coughing or shortness of breath.
He admitted himself into the Emory St. Joseph campus near Dunwoody, where he worked in its ER for nearly five years.
RELATED: Coronavirus updates: US death toll eclipses China's official count
At first, staff diagnosed him with pneumonia. The hospital tested him for COVID-19 by putting a cotton swab in the back of his nose. It came back negative.
James asked for another test. This time, staff took a sample of his mucus from the back of throat. That test confirmed he had COVID-19.
About that same time, James couldn’t breathe on his own. The virus also caused his heart to enlarge.
The scariest moment, though, happened when his breathing tube clogged -- cutting off his oxygen.
“At that moment in time, I did not think I was going to make it because it took a while for the nurses to get in there,” said James.
The virus caught James by surprise because he does not have any underlying health conditions. He’s competed in bodybuilding events and watches what he puts in his body.
“Before this, I had not even had a cold in eight years. So, for this to happen, it was very shocking,” James said.
RELATED: Why you're not seeing COVID-19 recovery numbers in Georgia
While in the ICU, James said he could not receive visitors. Even some hospital staff were nervous about coming into his room.
“When you’re in the hospital, and in isolation, it feels like you’re left behind. Like, no one wants to come into your room because you have to put on all this gear,” said James. “I got to the point where I just asked the nurse if she can just leave stuff at the door and they actually did it. Like, they wouldn’t come inside there.”
James is not sure how he contracted the virus. He specializes in addiction and mental health recovery. So, he currently does not work in a traditional hospital setting.
After nearly 10 days in the ICU, James is now home. He posted the picture he took of himself intubated on social media to warn other young people who don’t think they’re at risk, that this could happen to them.
“As someone as healthy as I was, I was literally on my death bed. And I’m trying to tell people they need to take care of themselves and they need to take this seriously,” said James.
Chromia
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I did my first curbside pickup yesterday. I'm lucky that I was able to get an available day & time for that.
As I was driving through the parking lot I saw 2 people wearing scrubs walking into the store.
Maybe they were clean scrubs and they were shopping before work, but probably not.Yes, sanitizing everything is stressful. It took longer than I thought to wipe everything down or wash things off before I put everything away.
MzRhonda
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It is brought up and he does what he always does deny and blame a Obama
MzRhonda
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I take a Zinc liquid supplement daily
vevster
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Soooo important and yes liquid is the best.
TrulyBlessed
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Do you have a brand recommendation for liquid zinc? I tend to have a pretty tough stomach but Zinc tablets take my stomach out! Probably a sign of deficiency. I’ve only tried the Megafood brand.
Chromia
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I stopped getting takeout. Would the staff prepare my order with the same care that they would want an order prepared for themselves and their families? Probably not.How do you all feel about the safety of eating takeout? I haven't eaten anything not cooked at home since this whole message started.I don't believe that takeout cooked, plated and served by poorly paid people who won't get paid if they don't show up to work is safe. I think that they are telling us it is fine for the same supply chain type reasons that they are telling us not to wear masks. Grocery store supply chains aren't designed to feed everyone all of the time. In normal times people eat a lot of meals out and grocery stores can't keep up if we all stop eating takeout.
I used to get takeout at least once a week. It'll be a while before I get it again. My local news keeps saying to support local restaurants, but no thanks.
I did my first curbside pickup yesterday. I'm lucky that I was able to get an available day & time for that.
As I was driving through the parking lot I saw 2 people wearing scrubs walking into the store.
Yes, sanitizing everything is stressful. It took longer than I thought to wipe everything down or wash things off before I put everything away.
I agree that sanitizing everything is stressful. I'm doing it though. Me and my husband have a whole system. We have a designated "decontamination" area for the items that we brought home. It takes a while but we are being very diligent about it.
Peppermynt
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Exact same thing here. Got our peapod delivery from Giant this morning. We have a dry goods "station" in the front of the garage where we don gloves and everything goes on towels and we spray it all down (flipping over as needed) with Lysol. Those then sit for 24 hours. Refrigerator and freezer items same thing, but they go into the fridge/freezer in a half hour or once dry from the Lysol. Fruits veggies will sit in garage til we have a chance to soak them in soapy water. All plastic bags that held the groceries go into a box and sit on the one side in the garage for a couple days (I figure we will need small trash bags inside once the current corona-free pile of bags runs out).
Same with packages. If its a dry item we spray the box and leave it (we've been shipping items so we need the boxes, or will use them to help start a fire in the firepit ... or in the grill when we grill.) Then the item itself is sprayed once we open the box and it too sits for a while.
Its a real pain but we're getting used to it and I'm glad we're both taking this seriously. I can't imagine if we weren't on the same page - I might have to lock him out the house.
shelli4018
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We don’t use our front door/ foyer anymore. Our staging area is a small corner of the kitchen near the side door. We have disinfectant, sanitizer, DIY spray with bleach. When anyone has been out we change clothes and place them in the laundry room immediately for washing.
We accidentally got fresh air today as our 8lb chihuahua decided to take herself for a walk after breakfast. Apparently she made friends with 2 little girls down the street. I’m so annoyed with that chick. My husband is filling in the hole under the gate she dug. She’s a jerk. Doesn’t look remorseful at all. Lol.
werenumber2
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I was also thinking about this along with the decreased death toll from automobile accidents now that more people are at home and off the roads. I couldn’t help but think that all those people who perished in that helicopter accident that killed Kobe Bryant would still be here
urbanchic
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Appearntly some folks in Houston TX think this is not serious.. This is from a friend's story yesterday. It's a video.
I told him he's part of the problem. He thinks because they are outside it's fine.View attachment 457529 View attachment 457533 View attachment 457525 View attachment 457527
I witnessed it myself. Yesterday was gorgeous in Houston. I would normally sit out on the hill at that particular park on a day like yesterday. But I decided just to drive around the park as a mini get away. I did not get out due to the pandemic.
Those pictures do not do the attendance justice. IT WAS PACKED. I couldn’t believe it. I had a hard time finding a parking spot so that I can sit in my car and chill for a minute. It was crazy.
MzRhonda
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I have a side business and that’s where I get my liquid bio minerals such as zinc and silver
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The video he shared was packed!!!
UmSumayyah
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It's so easy to stay 6 feet apart when you are outside. ridiculousAppearntly some folks in Houston TX think this is not serious.. This is from a friend's story yesterday. It's a video.
I told him he's part of the problem. He thinks because they are outside it's fine.
Jmartjrmd
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Experts tell White House coronavirus can spread through talking or even just breathing
By Elizabeth Cohen, Senior Medical Correspondent
Updated Apr 2, 2020
(CNN) - A prestigious scientific panel told the White House Wednesday night that research shows coronavirus can be spread not just by sneezes or coughs, but also just by talking, or possibly even just breathing.
"While the current [coronavirus] specific research is limited, the results of available studies are consistent with aerosolization of virus from normal breathing," according to the letter, written by Dr. Harvey Fineberg, chairman of a committee with the National Academy of Sciences.
Fineberg told CNN that he will wear start wearing a mask when he goes to the grocery store.
"I'm not going to wear a surgical mask, because clinicians need those," said Fineberg, former dean of the Harvard School of Public Health. "But I have a nice western-style bandana I might wear. Or I have a balaclava. I have some pretty nice options."
Dr. Anthony Fauci, a key member of the White House's coronavirus task force, told CNN Tuesday that the idea of recommending broad use of masks in the US to prevent the spread of coronavirus is under "very active discussion" by the group.
Fineberg, chair of the NAS' Standing Committee on Emerging Infectious Diseases and 21st Century Health Threats, said his letter was sent Wednesday evening in response to a query from Kelvin Droegemeier with the Office of Science and Technology Policy at the White House.
"This letter responds to your question concerning the possibility that [coronavirus] could be spread by conversation, in addition to sneeze/cough-induced droplets," the letter states. "Currently available research supports the possibility that [coronavirus] could be spread via bioaerosols generated directly by patients' exhalation," it continues.
According to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the virus spreads from person to person when people are within about 6 feet of each other "through respiratory droplets produced when an infected person coughs or sneezes."
Fineberg told CNN this is true, but that research shows that aerosolized droplets produced by talking or possibly even by just breathing can also spread the virus.
His letter explains that research at a hospital in China shows the virus can be suspended in the air when doctors and nurses remove protective gear, or when floors are cleaned, or when staff move around.
Research by the University of Nebraska shows that genetic material from the virus was found in patients' rooms more than 6 feet away from the patients, according to the letter.
Fineberg said it's possible that aerosolized coronavirus droplets can hang in the air and potentially infect someone who walks by later.
He added, however, that coronavirus is not as infectious as measles or tuberculosis.
How long coronavirus lingers in the air depends on several factors, including how much virus an infected individual puts out when breathing or talking, and also on the amount of circulation in the air, he said.
"If you generate an aerosol of the virus with no circulation in a room, it's conceivable that if you walk through later, you could inhale the virus," Fineberg said. "But if you're outside, the breeze will likely disperse it."
By Elizabeth Cohen, Senior Medical Correspondent
Updated Apr 2, 2020
(CNN) - A prestigious scientific panel told the White House Wednesday night that research shows coronavirus can be spread not just by sneezes or coughs, but also just by talking, or possibly even just breathing.
"While the current [coronavirus] specific research is limited, the results of available studies are consistent with aerosolization of virus from normal breathing," according to the letter, written by Dr. Harvey Fineberg, chairman of a committee with the National Academy of Sciences.
Fineberg told CNN that he will wear start wearing a mask when he goes to the grocery store.
"I'm not going to wear a surgical mask, because clinicians need those," said Fineberg, former dean of the Harvard School of Public Health. "But I have a nice western-style bandana I might wear. Or I have a balaclava. I have some pretty nice options."
Dr. Anthony Fauci, a key member of the White House's coronavirus task force, told CNN Tuesday that the idea of recommending broad use of masks in the US to prevent the spread of coronavirus is under "very active discussion" by the group.
Fineberg, chair of the NAS' Standing Committee on Emerging Infectious Diseases and 21st Century Health Threats, said his letter was sent Wednesday evening in response to a query from Kelvin Droegemeier with the Office of Science and Technology Policy at the White House.
"This letter responds to your question concerning the possibility that [coronavirus] could be spread by conversation, in addition to sneeze/cough-induced droplets," the letter states. "Currently available research supports the possibility that [coronavirus] could be spread via bioaerosols generated directly by patients' exhalation," it continues.
According to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the virus spreads from person to person when people are within about 6 feet of each other "through respiratory droplets produced when an infected person coughs or sneezes."
Fineberg told CNN this is true, but that research shows that aerosolized droplets produced by talking or possibly even by just breathing can also spread the virus.
His letter explains that research at a hospital in China shows the virus can be suspended in the air when doctors and nurses remove protective gear, or when floors are cleaned, or when staff move around.
Research by the University of Nebraska shows that genetic material from the virus was found in patients' rooms more than 6 feet away from the patients, according to the letter.
Fineberg said it's possible that aerosolized coronavirus droplets can hang in the air and potentially infect someone who walks by later.
He added, however, that coronavirus is not as infectious as measles or tuberculosis.
How long coronavirus lingers in the air depends on several factors, including how much virus an infected individual puts out when breathing or talking, and also on the amount of circulation in the air, he said.
"If you generate an aerosol of the virus with no circulation in a room, it's conceivable that if you walk through later, you could inhale the virus," Fineberg said. "But if you're outside, the breeze will likely disperse it."
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Black Ambrosia
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How far does it travel?
vevster
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She just called from the post office. I’ll have my masks by Saturday.
dancinstallion
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You need to eat it with food. I take it halfway through my meal. We also split our zinc tabs in half and we havent had any more stomach issues since doing that.
An MIT researcher says gaseous clouds could carry droplets of all sizes up to 27 feet, though doctors contend 6 feet is adequate against coronavirus.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...esearcher-lydia-bourouiba-27-feet/5091526002/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...esearcher-lydia-bourouiba-27-feet/5091526002/
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