meka72
Well-Known Member
Thanks! I came across an article that raised that concern. I’ll double check whether the filters I ordered have concerning ingredients.
The Covid-19 Thread: News, Preparation Tips, Etc
- Thread starter Black Ambrosia
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momi
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There was an article I read last week stating that 30% or so of those tested in Chicago already had antibodies for CV19. I honestly suspect many of us have already had the virus and recovered.
Earlier this year I was out of work for a week with what I thought was the flu. In retrospect, I wonder if it was CV19 because I haven't had the flu in I don't know how long and I never get the flu shot.
A doctor that tested positive said all she experienced was a sore throat and post-nasal drip for a few days. Most media stories portray the virus as a near to death sentence, but all cases are not that severe.
Earlier this year I was out of work for a week with what I thought was the flu. In retrospect, I wonder if it was CV19 because I haven't had the flu in I don't know how long and I never get the flu shot.
A doctor that tested positive said all she experienced was a sore throat and post-nasal drip for a few days. Most media stories portray the virus as a near to death sentence, but all cases are not that severe.
momi
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I've been sewing a modified version of the Olson mask - it has a pocket for a filter and a nose bridge for a secure fit.
The deaconess pattern is another option - that may be easier to sew depending on the skill level.
https://www.deaconess.com/How-to-make-a-Face-Mask
For filter inserts Ive been using the blue shop towels...
Please ask me any questions if you need to!
nycutiepie
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I’m so very sorry for your loss. My mother is a retired RN and I grew up admiring her and her colleagues. God bless you.
Jmartjrmd
Well-Known Member
I used to run the ECMO pump in really sick babies. It's a scary machine to work with. Way back in the day when I trained in Washington DC at their choldrens hospital we put baby pigs on. Now they have simulation labs.Respiratory Assistance Levels and Support with oxygen being lowest level of support and ECMO being the highest level of support.
1. Oxygen
2.CPAP machine
3.Intubation (Ventilator/Respirator) 70% to 80% death rate
4.extracorporeal membrane oxygenation (ECMO) about 400 centers in the US
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extracorporeal_membrane_oxygenation
ECMO:
"Extracorporeal Membrane Oxygenation. Extracorporeal membrane oxygenation (ECMO) is a technique of life support that consists of diverting a fraction of the patient's blood flow (BF) through an artificial lung for gas exchange (oxygenation and carbon dioxide [CO2] removal) and then returning it to the patient."
https://www.elso.org/Registry/SupportDocuments/CenterIDList.aspx
I'll never forget the day we had a baby on the pump and it just stopped working. Never been so scared in my life. The perfusionist was in the OR and not available to come help. By the grace of God we got that thing working again.
It's not available everywhere and requires a lot of resources to run. We had to be 2:1... two nurses to the baby plus a dedicated RT to run it. Plus so few people are trained on it often the people that can run it have to work many shifts in a row to run it.
I think it could help a lot more people but the number of pumps available and people to run it plus the length of time that might be required to be on it is an issue. And not that it should matter but the cost as well.
Black Ambrosia
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This looks really interesting. Thanks for sharing. I'm going to research it. The pricing is very affordable.
I've heard high doses are effective but hadn't considered taking that much. I think I take around 2,000 - 2,500 mg.
vevster
Well-Known Member
Imagine trying to go to bowel tolerance and backing off! Remember, they are giving Vitamin C IVs to covid patients in China.....
Black Ambrosia
Well-Known Member
Thanks for the tip. I'll give it a try.
Chicoro
5 Year Shea Anniversary: Started Dec 16th, 2016!
Thank you for personalizing this post. I posted about ECMO for the reasons you listed . It is very specialized and not available for most people.
You must be a Super Nurse with Super Skills. They don't let just anybody get close to those machines.
meka72
Well-Known Member
I decided to be safe and canceled the order on my furnace filter. I’ll use a coffee filter instead. Thanks for encouraging me not to take my fear too far.
FYI @BayouBelle
FYI @BayouBelle
meka72
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@Leeda.the.Paladin, I’m sorry to hear your friend has passed. May her memory be a blessing to you.
dicapr
Well-Known Member
Please take these results with a grain of salt. The truth is many of these tests are crap. I work in point of care testing and the clinical lab and I know that there is at least one antigen test on the market right now that has a 25% error rate.
The emerging test have not been adequately vetted and false positives and false negatives are a real problem. The shortage and need for testing has anyone and everyone coming up with a test. However the accuracy of these tests are still unproven. The antigen PCR test is better because it’s looking directly for dna. Antibody tests are trickier period. These rushed to market tests are nice but I wouldn’t relax any personal precautions based on an antibody test saying I had COVID19. Because we just don’t know how right or wrong these new test are.
Chicoro
5 Year Shea Anniversary: Started Dec 16th, 2016!
Jmartjrmd
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Lol..thanks but I did it when I was very new out of school I think in year 2. At that time I wanted to know everything and somebody told me I'd never make it as a nurse so I wanted to prove not only would I make it but I'd also know much more than she ever would. I must say I did that!!
SpiritJunkie
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Good for you!!!
HappyAtLast
Simplicity & Peacefulness
InchHighPrivateEye
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I don’t feel like my husband is taking this seriously and I’m vacillating between anger and sadness.
I stayed with my parents for about a month with my son. We came back because.....like, I’m married? This is my home ?
DH got a haircut last week....I cannot believe how selfish a person can be as to go to someone’s house to get a haircut after their shop has been closed because we live in a hotspot for a deadly pandemic.....and this person has a whole family. So I can’t go back to stay with my parents. I can’t even see them. And this fool....what’s worse is that it’s like he doesn’t even care how contagious it is. He went to the store the other day after I asked him not to-no mask, nothing and one of the things he got was a tub of whipped cream. I eat whipped cream. Ok. So I just do happen to SEE him take a lick off the spoon while he was getting some and then put the spoon back in the tub to get some more. He’s very keen on fixing fruit for my son and getting right close in his face, which sometimes he’s aloof with my son so I feel like he is trolling me. How as a man with a family do you decide to expose yourself to something so contagious and then fail to at least back up!
I feel like he doesn’t care and thinks this is a game. And because of the nature of what we are dealing with, I have nowhere to go for respite
he still goes to work everyday so I decided today we need to sleep in different rooms and use different bathrooms, different kitchen sinks everything. But we’ve been in the same room and he’s been all in my sons face for a week, so again, it’s too late for me to be like “oh you’re trippin! I’m out!”
This thing that’s going on in the world right nowwwwww- I rebuke this!
I stayed with my parents for about a month with my son. We came back because.....like, I’m married? This is my home ?
DH got a haircut last week....I cannot believe how selfish a person can be as to go to someone’s house to get a haircut after their shop has been closed because we live in a hotspot for a deadly pandemic.....and this person has a whole family. So I can’t go back to stay with my parents. I can’t even see them. And this fool....what’s worse is that it’s like he doesn’t even care how contagious it is. He went to the store the other day after I asked him not to-no mask, nothing and one of the things he got was a tub of whipped cream. I eat whipped cream. Ok. So I just do happen to SEE him take a lick off the spoon while he was getting some and then put the spoon back in the tub to get some more. He’s very keen on fixing fruit for my son and getting right close in his face, which sometimes he’s aloof with my son so I feel like he is trolling me. How as a man with a family do you decide to expose yourself to something so contagious and then fail to at least back up!
I feel like he doesn’t care and thinks this is a game. And because of the nature of what we are dealing with, I have nowhere to go for respite
he still goes to work everyday so I decided today we need to sleep in different rooms and use different bathrooms, different kitchen sinks everything. But we’ve been in the same room and he’s been all in my sons face for a week, so again, it’s too late for me to be like “oh you’re trippin! I’m out!”This thing that’s going on in the world right nowwwwww- I rebuke this!
InchHighPrivateEye
Well-Known Member
I am really pissed off about this! Who you marry matters. Like, obviously. But I am PISSED OFF.I don’t feel like my husband is taking this seriously and I’m vacillating between anger and sadness.
I stayed with my parents for about a month with my son. We came back because.....like, I’m married? This is my home ?
DH got a haircut last week....I cannot believe how selfish a person can be as to go to someone’s house to get a haircut after their shop has been closed because we live in a hotspot for a deadly pandemic.....and this person has a whole family. So I can’t go back to stay with my parents. I can’t even see them. And this fool....what’s worse is that it’s like he doesn’t even care how contagious it is. He went to the store the other day after I asked him not to-no mask, nothing and one of the things he got was a tub of whipped cream. I eat whipped cream. Ok. So I just do happen to SEE him take a lick off the spoon while he was getting some and then put the spoon back in the tub to get some more. He’s very keen on fixing fruit for my son and getting right close in his face, which sometimes he’s aloof with my son so I feel like he is trolling me. How as a man with a family do you decide to expose yourself to something so contagious and then fail to at least back up!
I feel like he doesn’t care and thinks this is a game. And because of the nature of what we are dealing with, I have nowhere to go for respite
This thing that’s going on in the world right nowwwwww- I rebuke this!
My parents came by to drop us some food and they left it outside the door but i thought I’d open the shades so my son could see them through the window like the posts I’ve seen on SM. He cried and cried. So, that was a fail. Now that I understand more about this, I guessssss it wouldn’t be a good idea for me to go to their house to visit even if my husband would just stay home but it’s an impossibility now and meanwhile I feel like I’m trapped.
I see people with gardens (my parents, for one, have a backyard full of food growing) and this fool is spending his time looking at a tv to buy tonight for his room since we are separate. You know what we have in this house? Four huge ratchet TVs. You know what it was hard for me to find last night when I, as a mother of a an always eating son to find? A large selection of food. YET I’m the only adult up in here worried about it!
This man leaves to go to essential work and comes back in running clothes from running, not in our neighborhood where there’s space, but from running in crowded downtown! It’s a whole *** pandemic and he is just going about his day talking about he needs to call employees back in to work Bc then working from home is “unsustainable.” Who is this white arsed black man here!
I’m pissed off.
ThirdEyeBeauty
Well-Known Member
^^^Confront him but only in a position of concern. Let him know you are worried and stressed.
Have faith that all will be well. He is not purposely sabotaging the household is he? He is continuing his regular routine right but not sabotaging? Remember most of all that the probability of getting very sick and dying is low. Don't let this issue consume you. He might be trying to cope by keeping his regular routine. Stress will cause you more harm in your life than you can ever imagine COVID-19. If nothing changes in him, let him be and be good to yourself.
Have faith that all will be well. He is not purposely sabotaging the household is he? He is continuing his regular routine right but not sabotaging? Remember most of all that the probability of getting very sick and dying is low. Don't let this issue consume you. He might be trying to cope by keeping his regular routine. Stress will cause you more harm in your life than you can ever imagine COVID-19. If nothing changes in him, let him be and be good to yourself.
Chicoro
5 Year Shea Anniversary: Started Dec 16th, 2016!
United States takes away WHO funding 'temporarily' pending investigation. Trump had accused the organization of being 'China-centric'.
'US Contributes 500 Million vs China Contributes 40 million', says the US president
Follow the money... 500 million freed up to be used somewhere else...Where and how and for whom?
American tax payers provide 400 to 500 million dollars a year to the World Health Organization, according to the president. The US government will be 'temporarily' suspending this payment to do an investigation.
Where will this 500 million be earmarked to go? How will it be known and confirmed that this money has gotten to its destination? Who can confirm it.
"Why would I care? He [Trump] won't do that. Please don't do that. We need to work together"
'US Contributes 500 Million vs China Contributes 40 million', says the US president
Follow the money... 500 million freed up to be used somewhere else...Where and how and for whom?
American tax payers provide 400 to 500 million dollars a year to the World Health Organization, according to the president. The US government will be 'temporarily' suspending this payment to do an investigation.
Where will this 500 million be earmarked to go? How will it be known and confirmed that this money has gotten to its destination? Who can confirm it.
"Why would I care? He [Trump] won't do that. Please don't do that. We need to work together"
dicapr
Well-Known Member
I wish I knew how to post the link from my phone. The Washington Post has a great article detailing what immunity could or could not mean.
We all know some viruses don’t impart life long immunity. It is uncertain at this time whether COVID19 antibodies produce long term immunity or not. If it follows the pattern of other corona viruses it may impart immunity for less than a year or up to 5 years. The article also states that at this time no one knows what antibody level imparts immunity. Not all COVID19 survivors have high level of antibodies circulating and that may mean they can be easily reinfected or it could still mean they have immunity.
The moral of the story is to continue to protect yourself for the foreseeable future.
We all know some viruses don’t impart life long immunity. It is uncertain at this time whether COVID19 antibodies produce long term immunity or not. If it follows the pattern of other corona viruses it may impart immunity for less than a year or up to 5 years. The article also states that at this time no one knows what antibody level imparts immunity. Not all COVID19 survivors have high level of antibodies circulating and that may mean they can be easily reinfected or it could still mean they have immunity.
The moral of the story is to continue to protect yourself for the foreseeable future.
discodumpling
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My cousin got the Rona. He's the 1st in the family to admit it. He is a conductor for the MTA and loves his money. I expected this. He is going through it at his home alone somewhere upstate NY. Im confident he will be OK. He's in touch with family members who work in health care so he has the best advice. I'll let yall know his outcome.
Black Ambrosia
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@InchHighPrivateEye
Does your husband know anyone who’s ill or passed? He seems cavalier about the whole thing.
Getting another tv and going running may be coping strategies where he stays distracted.
Does your husband know anyone who’s ill or passed? He seems cavalier about the whole thing.
Getting another tv and going running may be coping strategies where he stays distracted.
Black Ambrosia
Well-Known Member
I’m praying your cousin makes a full recovery.
vevster
Well-Known Member
We have posted this before, but when I keep hearing it from other sources I must repost:
I was listening this morning to a podcast interview with The Medical Medium they asked him what foods to cut out to ensure health. He said in order:
I was listening this morning to a podcast interview with The Medical Medium they asked him what foods to cut out to ensure health. He said in order:
- Eggs(feeds viruses): I can personally vouch for this one --- I was doing Whole 30 eating more scrambled eggs more than I usually do and got sick -- and I wasn't getting better in fact I appeared to be going through another round of the sickness till I heard about eggs and CUT THEM OUT
- Dairy(feeds viruses):
- Gluten
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meka72
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@dicapr is this the article you’re referring to?
By
Joel Achenbach,
Carolyn Y. Johnson and
Paige Winfield Cunningham
April 14, 2020 at 4:55 p.m. EDT
It’s one of the biggest unknowns about the novel coronavirus, one that determines what comes next for hundreds of thousands of Americans who have endured covid-19 and now appear to be fully recovered. Are they immune? Can they resume normal life and shrug off the fears and anxieties that are inescapable side effects of this pathogen?
One idea getting discussed at the highest levels of government is that such people should be granted a certificate of immunity — or some kind of special clearance that says this person is no longer infectious or vulnerable to the disease.
But the proposal is mired in the slippery science of this new virus. No one knows whether a recovered covid-19 patient is actually immune to a new infection — or if they are immune, how complete or long-lasting that might be.
AD
Some kind of immunity post-infection is the most plausible scenario for covid-19 patients. That’s the pattern with most infectious diseases. The body’s remarkably adaptive immune system typically clears out a virus and then maintains sentinel disease-fighting antibodies that are ready to repel a subsequent attack.
Yet there are preliminary reports out of South Korea and China, not yet peer-reviewed but gaining broad attention, that have surprised and baffled scientists. Some survivors test positive after they’ve been officially cured. They also have widely varying amounts of antibodies — abundant in some survivors, undetectable in others.
Serology testing, being rolled out across the United States, looks at blood serum for signs of antibodies to the virus. Authorities have hailed the arrival of these tests as crucial to the goal of restarting the crippled economy. They could also help answer key questions about the coronavirus, such as how many people became infected without symptoms and how widespread it is in the community.
AD
Sign up for our Coronavirus Updates newsletter to track the outbreak. All stories linked in the newsletter are free to access.
Anthony S. Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, told CNN that, once testing is more widespread, it’s possible people might eventually carry some form of identification showing they’re immune to the virus.
“It’s one of those things that we talk about when we want to make sure that we know who the vulnerable people are,” Fauci said.
But it’s not obvious that such tests would clarify the issue of immunity, and other key questions remain, including: Who would issue the certificates of immunity? How would people get them? What exactly would these people be allowed to do?
“It looks like the train is getting ready to leave the station and nobody has checked to see what the track ahead is like,” said Henry Greely, director of the Stanford Center for Law and the Biosciences.
AD
In the race to respond to the pandemic, the antibody tests are hitting the market without the usual level of due diligence.
“I am concerned that some of the antibody tests that are in the market, that haven’t gone through the FDA scientific review, may not be as accurate as we’d like them to be,” Food and Drug Administration Commissioner Stephen Hahn said this past weekend on “Meet the Press.”
What this means, in practice, is that a positive result for coronavirus antibodies might not be a rock-solid case for being immune. Simply being positive might not be enough; people might need a certain threshold of antibodies to be protected. Again, no one knows what that level might be.
AD
What should, in theory, create at least some level of immunity is surviving a serious bout with the disease. A study in the wake of SARS, the similar coronavirus that triggered an epidemic in 2003, showed that survivors maintained neutralizing antibodies for two years on average, with the number of antibodies declining thereafter. Other coronaviruses in circulation in the human species also lead to at least partial immunity for some period of time.
The immunity question has implications for whether covid-19 follows an annual cycle like seasonal influenza, or returns every two years, or goes dormant for, say, five years and then erupts again, according to a research paper published Tuesday in the journal Science. The authors noted that two other coronaviruses in circulation, which cause common colds, result in about 45 weeks of immunity on average. If the new virus follows that pattern, it would probably create annual outbreaks, they found.
In one small study 30 years ago, 15 people volunteered to have coronavirus 229E, which causes common cold symptoms, squirted up their noses. Ten became infected, and eight developed cold symptoms. A year later, all but one of them returned to be reinfected again. The majority were reinfected, but those who had been ill before did not develop cold symptoms. Moreover, the period during which the patients shed the virus, and were potentially contagious, was shorter.
AD
The new virus, SARS-CoV-2, is genetically similar to the first SARS virus — hence the “2” — but it affects people differently. It is not as lethal but is more easily spread. Many people who are infected do not develop symptoms at all and yet can potentially transmit the virus to others.
A report from China that has not yet been peer-reviewed found a wide range of antibodies among people with mild cases of the virus. Most strikingly, younger people had fewer antibodies in the wake of the disease — and 30 percent of those sampled had low levels. Some individuals had no trace of antibodies. That has raised the question of whether a person with a mild infection, one confirmed by the sensitive PCR test, might still be susceptible to a second infection.
A report out of South Korea has raised that issue more directly. Health officials said 91 patients who had recovered from the virus, a diagnosis confirmed by a negative test result, had subsequently tested positive.
AD
They might not have been reinfected, however. The tests are extremely sensitive and could have detected lingering traces of genetic material from nonviable virus. Because the virus does damage to the lungs, one possibility is that the debris getting cleared out could leave fragments of viral genetic material circulating in the body, Vineet Menachery, a virologist at the University of Texas Medical Branch in Galveston, pointed out on Twitter.
Korean officials are taking samples from the patients who tested positive to try to grow the virus in a dish, which will be the true test of whether the people were still shedding live virus. They expect results in two weeks.
Someday, the United States and much of the world may have herd immunity to covid-19. That day is very far away, probably arriving only when a safe vaccine is widely deployed. Herd immunity occurs when a large proportion of a population — typically 70 to 80 percent — is not vulnerable to infection.
AD
The influential pandemic modeldeveloped by the University of Washington’s Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation assumes that by June, the percentage of Americans infected by the novel coronavirus will be in the single digits. In New York City, home to the nation’s most severe covid-19 outbreak, about 1 percent of the population has tested positive.
Min Joo Kim in Seoul contributed to this report.
By
Joel Achenbach,
Carolyn Y. Johnson and
Paige Winfield Cunningham
April 14, 2020 at 4:55 p.m. EDT
It’s one of the biggest unknowns about the novel coronavirus, one that determines what comes next for hundreds of thousands of Americans who have endured covid-19 and now appear to be fully recovered. Are they immune? Can they resume normal life and shrug off the fears and anxieties that are inescapable side effects of this pathogen?
One idea getting discussed at the highest levels of government is that such people should be granted a certificate of immunity — or some kind of special clearance that says this person is no longer infectious or vulnerable to the disease.
But the proposal is mired in the slippery science of this new virus. No one knows whether a recovered covid-19 patient is actually immune to a new infection — or if they are immune, how complete or long-lasting that might be.
AD
Some kind of immunity post-infection is the most plausible scenario for covid-19 patients. That’s the pattern with most infectious diseases. The body’s remarkably adaptive immune system typically clears out a virus and then maintains sentinel disease-fighting antibodies that are ready to repel a subsequent attack.
Yet there are preliminary reports out of South Korea and China, not yet peer-reviewed but gaining broad attention, that have surprised and baffled scientists. Some survivors test positive after they’ve been officially cured. They also have widely varying amounts of antibodies — abundant in some survivors, undetectable in others.
Serology testing, being rolled out across the United States, looks at blood serum for signs of antibodies to the virus. Authorities have hailed the arrival of these tests as crucial to the goal of restarting the crippled economy. They could also help answer key questions about the coronavirus, such as how many people became infected without symptoms and how widespread it is in the community.
AD
Sign up for our Coronavirus Updates newsletter to track the outbreak. All stories linked in the newsletter are free to access.
Anthony S. Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, told CNN that, once testing is more widespread, it’s possible people might eventually carry some form of identification showing they’re immune to the virus.
“It’s one of those things that we talk about when we want to make sure that we know who the vulnerable people are,” Fauci said.
But it’s not obvious that such tests would clarify the issue of immunity, and other key questions remain, including: Who would issue the certificates of immunity? How would people get them? What exactly would these people be allowed to do?
“It looks like the train is getting ready to leave the station and nobody has checked to see what the track ahead is like,” said Henry Greely, director of the Stanford Center for Law and the Biosciences.
AD
In the race to respond to the pandemic, the antibody tests are hitting the market without the usual level of due diligence.
“I am concerned that some of the antibody tests that are in the market, that haven’t gone through the FDA scientific review, may not be as accurate as we’d like them to be,” Food and Drug Administration Commissioner Stephen Hahn said this past weekend on “Meet the Press.”
What this means, in practice, is that a positive result for coronavirus antibodies might not be a rock-solid case for being immune. Simply being positive might not be enough; people might need a certain threshold of antibodies to be protected. Again, no one knows what that level might be.
AD
What should, in theory, create at least some level of immunity is surviving a serious bout with the disease. A study in the wake of SARS, the similar coronavirus that triggered an epidemic in 2003, showed that survivors maintained neutralizing antibodies for two years on average, with the number of antibodies declining thereafter. Other coronaviruses in circulation in the human species also lead to at least partial immunity for some period of time.
The immunity question has implications for whether covid-19 follows an annual cycle like seasonal influenza, or returns every two years, or goes dormant for, say, five years and then erupts again, according to a research paper published Tuesday in the journal Science. The authors noted that two other coronaviruses in circulation, which cause common colds, result in about 45 weeks of immunity on average. If the new virus follows that pattern, it would probably create annual outbreaks, they found.
In one small study 30 years ago, 15 people volunteered to have coronavirus 229E, which causes common cold symptoms, squirted up their noses. Ten became infected, and eight developed cold symptoms. A year later, all but one of them returned to be reinfected again. The majority were reinfected, but those who had been ill before did not develop cold symptoms. Moreover, the period during which the patients shed the virus, and were potentially contagious, was shorter.
AD
The new virus, SARS-CoV-2, is genetically similar to the first SARS virus — hence the “2” — but it affects people differently. It is not as lethal but is more easily spread. Many people who are infected do not develop symptoms at all and yet can potentially transmit the virus to others.
A report from China that has not yet been peer-reviewed found a wide range of antibodies among people with mild cases of the virus. Most strikingly, younger people had fewer antibodies in the wake of the disease — and 30 percent of those sampled had low levels. Some individuals had no trace of antibodies. That has raised the question of whether a person with a mild infection, one confirmed by the sensitive PCR test, might still be susceptible to a second infection.
A report out of South Korea has raised that issue more directly. Health officials said 91 patients who had recovered from the virus, a diagnosis confirmed by a negative test result, had subsequently tested positive.
AD
They might not have been reinfected, however. The tests are extremely sensitive and could have detected lingering traces of genetic material from nonviable virus. Because the virus does damage to the lungs, one possibility is that the debris getting cleared out could leave fragments of viral genetic material circulating in the body, Vineet Menachery, a virologist at the University of Texas Medical Branch in Galveston, pointed out on Twitter.
Korean officials are taking samples from the patients who tested positive to try to grow the virus in a dish, which will be the true test of whether the people were still shedding live virus. They expect results in two weeks.
Someday, the United States and much of the world may have herd immunity to covid-19. That day is very far away, probably arriving only when a safe vaccine is widely deployed. Herd immunity occurs when a large proportion of a population — typically 70 to 80 percent — is not vulnerable to infection.
AD
The influential pandemic modeldeveloped by the University of Washington’s Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation assumes that by June, the percentage of Americans infected by the novel coronavirus will be in the single digits. In New York City, home to the nation’s most severe covid-19 outbreak, about 1 percent of the population has tested positive.
Min Joo Kim in Seoul contributed to this report.
vevster
Well-Known Member
I just saw an article about how the govt is reading our Covid-19 posts.... 
I will update this post with the details...
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/...spy-on-citizens-during-covid-19-pandemic.aspx
I will update this post with the details...https://articles.mercola.com/sites/...spy-on-citizens-during-covid-19-pandemic.aspx
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fifi134
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PLEASE DON’T QUOTE
@InchHighPrivateEye Girl I completely feel your frustration. My younger brother is a hotep (lawdamercy) who’s also an antivaxxer and has been in and out of my parent’s house where he lives multiple times a day. Telling them if they were really Christians they wouldn’t be living in fear. Who knew exercising wisdom and caution was a sign of a lack of faith smh.
Anyway, my mom found out she was positive on Sunday. Thank God she’s been feeling fine since then as her symptoms were mild (chills, fever, headache - all gone by Saturday; she only started exhibiting symptoms Friday night). But he continues to be unbelievably lax and arrogant about it all, saying that we’re all living in fear. My poor dad lives with him and I’m most worried about him contracting it but this kid doesn’t seem to care.
If it were me, I woulda been changed the locks.
@InchHighPrivateEye Girl I completely feel your frustration. My younger brother is a hotep (lawdamercy) who’s also an antivaxxer and has been in and out of my parent’s house where he lives multiple times a day. Telling them if they were really Christians they wouldn’t be living in fear. Who knew exercising wisdom and caution was a sign of a lack of faith smh.
Anyway, my mom found out she was positive on Sunday. Thank God she’s been feeling fine since then as her symptoms were mild (chills, fever, headache - all gone by Saturday; she only started exhibiting symptoms Friday night). But he continues to be unbelievably lax and arrogant about it all, saying that we’re all living in fear. My poor dad lives with him and I’m most worried about him contracting it but this kid doesn’t seem to care.
If it were me, I woulda been changed the locks.
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