The Covid-19 Thread: News, Preparation Tips, Etc

MomofThreeBoys

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Good riddance!

https://www.thedailybeast.com/fox-news-cuts-ties-with-diamond-and-silk

Diamond & Silk, Unofficial Trump ‘Advisers’ Who Spread Bonkers Coronavirus Claims

OVER & OUT
Lachlan Cartwright
Senior Reporter

Justin Baragona
Contributing Editor

Updated Apr. 27, 2020 7:42PM ET Published Apr. 27, 2020 4:53PM ET

EXCLUSIVE
Al Drago

Fox News has cut ties with MAGA vlogging superstars Diamond & Silk, who had contributed original content to the network’s streaming service Fox Nation since shortly after its late 2018 launch.

The sudden split comes after the Trump-boosting siblings have come under fire for promoting conspiracy theories and disinformation about the coronavirus. “After what they’ve said and tweeted you won’t be seeing them on Fox Nation or Fox News anytime soon,” a source with knowledge of the matter told The Daily Beast.

raving about their performances, featuring them at rallies, and treating them as “senior advisers.”

The social-media personalities were eventually tapped to provide weekly videos for Fox Nation after it launched as a subscription-based online video network. Their episodes, essentially 5-7 minute distillations of their freeform live-streams, appeared like clockwork on the streaming service until earlier this month.

No new episodes of their online program have been uploaded since April 7, as CNN senior media reporter Oliver Darcy first noted over the weekend. Prior to this month, the duo never missed a week posting episodes since December 2018.

A spokesperson for Fox News did not respond to a request for comment. Diamond & Silk also did not reply when emailed by The Daily Beast
 
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itsallaboutattitude

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That was a really interesting read. Thanks for posting.

And this is how it ends up in a lab and then gets out into the world. It just takes one infected animal that they are conducting tests in a lab to be disposed of against protocols at the nearby market.

Another is a lab dr or tech missing a protocol or a series of them And getting themselves infected and then spreading it.
 

Ganjababy

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These are interesting. One of the scariest thing about this disease is the fact that it’s new and established protocols are not working and so many doctors are at a loss of what to do.

In addition to what’s mentioned here, children are getting dark blue and purple coloured toes, younger people having strokes and cardiac arrests all due to abnormal clotting. In addition there have been reports of chickenpox like skin lesions, pulmonary symptoms being compared to high altitude sickness instead of a virus and conversing on oxygen saturation’s that would normally have led to loss of consciousness

I am not a conspiracy theorist but the symptoms really makes me wonder if it was indeed developed in the lab and escaped by accident. If it was don’t believe it was released on purpose though because it’s too big of a risk to the country who created it. But then again it could have been one lone psycho scientist. I cannot even believe my mind has gone there. But all these symptoms makes me wonder.
I thought this was interesting. Because we are all focusing on surviving the illness we won't know the full extent of the damage. As well as the effect it has on children:
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ThirdEyeBeauty

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Is it possible for this thing to have been released in the atmosphere? It is affecting so many people so quickly and sucking the oxygen away. I didn't believe in such of thing but now I am wondering.
 

Jmartjrmd

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I thought this was interesting. Because we are all focusing on surviving the illness we won't know the full extent of the damage. As well as the effect it has on children:
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These are interesting. One of the scariest thing about this disease is the fact that it’s new and established protocols are not working and so many doctors are at a loss of what to do.

In addition to what’s mentioned here, children are getting dark blue and purple coloured toes, younger people having strokes and cardiac arrests all due to abnormal clotting. In addition there have been reports of chickenpox like skin lesions, pulmonary symptoms being compared to high altitude sickness instead of a virus and conversing on oxygen saturation’s that would normally have led to loss of consciousness

I am not a conspiracy theorist but the symptoms really makes me wonder if it was indeed developed in the lab and escaped by accident. If it was don’t believe it was released on purpose though because it’s too big of a risk to the country who created it. But then again it could have been one lone psycho scientist. I cannot even believe my mind has gone there. But all these symptoms makes me wonder.
I don't think this is engineered. This article makes some great points.

No, this virus isn’t a bioweapon.

New diseases have emerged throughout human history, and we have seen two major coronavirus outbreaks in the last two decades: SARS and MERS. So we shouldn’t be surprised by the arrival of the covid-19 virus.

However, rumours on social media suggest that the outbreak was human-made. Some say the virus leaked from a Chinese lab studying coronaviruses. Others suggest the virus was engineered to spread among humans.

Even the most secure laboratories do sometimes have accidents, and a human-engineered pandemic has been identified as a possible risk to our civilisation, but there is no good evidence that either has happened.





Many similar viruses are found in wild bats, and it seems likely that is the origin of this one, probably via an intermediate host. Similarly, we know that both SARS and MERS came from bats, so there is no reason to invoke a laboratory accident.

Researchers led by Shan-Lu Liu at the Ohio State University say there is “no credible evidence” of genetic engineering (Emerging Microbes & Infections, doi.org/dpvw). The virus’s genome has been sequenced, and if it had been altered, we would expect to see signs of inserted gene sequences. But we now know the points that differ from bat viruses are scattered in a fairly random way, just as they would be if the new virus had evolved naturally.
 

Jmartjrmd

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Scientists Are Tired of Explaining Why The COVID-19 Virus Was Not Made in a Lab

JACINTA BOWLER

20 APRIL 2020


It's a rumour that just won't die. When asked whether the COVID-19 virus was genetically engineered in a lab, scientists have already said "no" rather firmly, but the matter of the new coronavirus' origin is unlikely to be put to rest so easily.



Discussions around this subject have become even more pertinent since US government intelligence officials are reportedly investigating the potential source of the pandemic, focussing on theories that it may have originated in a laboratory, despite all evidence pointing to SARS-CoV-2 not being human-made.


"All evidence so far points to the fact the COVID-19 virus is naturally derived and not man-made," explains immunologist Nigel McMillan from the Menzies Health Institute Queensland.


"If you were going to design it in a lab the sequence changes make no sense as all previous evidence would tell you it would make the virus worse. No system exists in the lab to make some of the changes found."


Back in late March, we covered a study published in Nature Medicine, in which the researchers investigated the genomic data of SARS-CoV-2 - particularly the receptor-binding domain (RBD) sections of the virus - to try and discover how it mutated into the virulent and deadly version we're currently struggling to contain.


As a by-product of their research, they were able to determine that SARS-CoV-2 was not genetically manipulated.



"By comparing the available genome sequence data for known coronavirus strains, we can firmly determine that SARS-CoV-2 originated through natural processes," one of the researchers, Scripps Research immunologist Kristian Andersen, said at the time.


"Two features of the virus, the mutations in the RBD portion of the spike protein and its distinct backbone, rules out laboratory manipulation as a potential origin for SARS-CoV-2."


Although it is clear the virus was not created in the lab, there have been ongoing concerns it may have 'escaped' a research facility, with most of the speculation - understandably - focussed on the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV). However, it remains just speculation. The Washington Post recently reported that US embassy officials had safety concerns about the lab back in 2018, and the institute did keep a closely related bat virus - but even that's far from a smoking gun.


"The closest known relative of SARS-CoV-2 is a bat virus named RaTG13, which was kept at the WIV. There is some unfounded speculation that this virus was the origin of SARS-CoV-2," explains University of Sydney evolutionary virologist, Edward Holmes.



"However, RaTG13 was sampled from a different province of China (Yunnan) to where COVID-19 first appeared and the level of genome sequence divergence between SARS-CoV-2 and RaTG13 is equivalent to an average of 50 years (and at least 20 years) of evolutionary change."


Now, it is important to note that viruses can mutate naturally anywhere - in animal hosts, in humans, or even in laboratory cell cultures. Unfortunately, it's difficult to determine where and how the new coronavirus acquired its mutations, although most researchers think the process involved an animal host.


Additionally, researchers are still investigating if the necessary mutations for causing the new disease occurred before or after SARS-CoV-2 made the jump to humans.


The institute at the centre of the controversy has repeatedly denied accusations of being the source of the pandemic. Back in March, head of bat coronavirus research at WIV, Shi Zhengli, explained that when she first received samples from early COVID-19 patients, she immediately did a thorough investigation at her department, finding no match between the viruses her lab had been working on, and COVID-19 patients.


"That really took a load off my mind," she told Scientific American. "I had not slept a wink for days."


What experts do agree on is that a pandemic like this is no surprise. Scientists have been warning governments for years that a new disease was on the horizon, and that many countries were woefully under-prepared.


For example, the director of the US National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, Anthony Fauci, told the incoming US government administration in January 2017 about the inevitability of a "surprise outbreak", urging them to make preparations.


"We've been aware for some time that another coronavirus, like SARS and MERS before it, could cause a pandemic, and so in many ways, the emergence of a new coronavirus with pandemic potential is not a surprise," explains La Trobe University epidemiologist Hassan Vally.


"We have to be careful to not aid those irresponsibly using this global crisis for political point-scoring by giving any oxygen to these and other rumours."
 

Ms. Tarabotti

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Thank you ladies for keeping the discussion flowing. I pop in and out of this thread because while on one hand I feel like I need to know what's going on, the other hand holds my hypochondria and I get a little bleeping crazy. I don't remember if I shared this but in the early stages of this I was compulsively washing my hands 30-50+ times a day and using hand sanitizer. Of course I have sensitive skin and within days the back of my hands were three shades darker and had the texture of brazil nut shells. Teledoc got my situation moisturized and my hands only look 7o years old as opposed to the 3,000 year old mummified joints they were a week or so ago.

I hear you.

A steady diet of this isn't helpful to most people. You need information but at the same time it can overwhelm you if you don't practice some from of self care.

I found out that the husband of my sisters' mentor died last week. His son was able to come in from out of town to spend the last hours with him. My doctor cousin, who was the head of an emergency room and has been low key advising former colleagues and friends, just lost his sister (she died suddenly- don't know what of) and a few of his medical friends. It seems like you expect to hear bad news every time the phone rings. :(

My condolences to everyone who has lost family and friends :bighug:
 

Crackers Phinn

Either A Blessing Or A Lesson.
New diseases have emerged throughout human history, and we have seen two major coronavirus outbreaks in the last two decades: SARS and MERS. So we shouldn’t be surprised by the arrival of the covid-19 virus..
A lot of what’s fueling these rumors is Americans didn’t care/hardly paid attention to these viruses when we had presidents who made efforts to keep us isolated from the Pooh getting out of control here. I’m go double down on black Americans really not following any international stories not related to Africa.

I knew black Americans were in trouble when the first wave of Negro News Network was telling the gullible that melanin made black folks immune and we gave that Pooh a pet name. Yeah, well Rona said she ain’t one of our little friends. But folks in hot zones still out here going to house parties because they think this is lab created and they are going to get it anyway so might as well go out with a bang.
 

Ganjababy

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Yes I have read the reports that say that. They cannot find any evidence of CRISPR editing. But I also wonder if it escaped from that Wuhan lab. We will never know though.
I don't think this is engineered. This article makes some great points.

No, this virus isn’t a bioweapon.

New diseases have emerged throughout human history, and we have seen two major coronavirus outbreaks in the last two decades: SARS and MERS. So we shouldn’t be surprised by the arrival of the covid-19 virus.

However, rumours on social media suggest that the outbreak was human-made. Some say the virus leaked from a Chinese lab studying coronaviruses. Others suggest the virus was engineered to spread among humans.

Even the most secure laboratories do sometimes have accidents, and a human-engineered pandemic has been identified as a possible risk to our civilisation, but there is no good evidence that either has happened.





Many similar viruses are found in wild bats, and it seems likely that is the origin of this one, probably via an intermediate host. Similarly, we know that both SARS and MERS came from bats, so there is no reason to invoke a laboratory accident.

Researchers led by Shan-Lu Liu at the Ohio State University say there is “no credible evidence” of genetic engineering (Emerging Microbes & Infections, doi.org/dpvw). The virus’s genome has been sequenced, and if it had been altered, we would expect to see signs of inserted gene sequences. But we now know the points that differ from bat viruses are scattered in a fairly random way, just as they would be if the new virus had evolved naturally.
 

shelli4018

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A lot of what’s fueling these rumors is Americans didn’t care/hardly paid attention to these viruses when we had presidents who made efforts to keep us isolated from the Pooh getting out of control here. I’m go double down on black Americans really not following any international stories not related to Africa.

I knew black Americans were in trouble when the first wave of Negro News Network was telling the gullible that melanin made black folks immune and we gave that Pooh a pet name. Yeah, well Rona said she ain’t one of our little friends. But folks in hot zones still out here going to house parties because they think this is lab created and they are going to get it anyway so might as well go out with a bang.
That concerned me because it’s obvious disinformation.

All the conspiracy theories may be an attempt to make sense of things. People are frightened, angry and want someone to blame.
 
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shelli4018

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The equivalent disinformation for white folk was/is herd immunity. Both of these ideas employ Magical Thinking which offer false security and ensure widespread infection. As I’ve said before...some Western countries disastrously bought into this notion: US, UK, Italy, Spain.

Inmates are running the asylum. Which is why I can’t get too mad at the ladies questioning everything in this thread. Lol!

Things that are common knowledge but I still disbelieve:
1. Covid will wane in summer.
2. A safe vaccine will be available in 2020.
3. Immunity.
4. Current treatment protocols are effective. (We’ve been stuck in the reactive stage vs proactive. Hopefully that changes soon.)
5. The economy will rebound in 2020.
 
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Layluh

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A lot of what’s fueling these rumors is Americans didn’t care/hardly paid attention to these viruses when we had presidents who made efforts to keep us isolated from the Pooh getting out of control here. I’m go double down on black Americans really not following any international stories not related to Africa.

I knew black Americans were in trouble when the first wave of Negro News Network was telling the gullible that melanin made black folks immune and we gave that Pooh a pet name. Yeah, well Rona said she ain’t one of our little friends. But folks in hot zones still out here going to house parties because they think this is lab created and they are going to get it anyway so might as well go out with a bang.
Yup and not only that but im baffled by how no one has really cared enoigh about this family of virus to care about researching it. They been studying the flu cause that gets money for whatever reason when weve had several covid outbreaks. Its baffling.
 

Black Ambrosia

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The equivalent disinformation for white folk was/is herd immunity. Both of these ideas employ Magical Thinking which offer false security and ensure widespread infection. As I’ve said before...some Western countries disastrously bought into herd immunity: US, UK, Italy, Spain.
There are a lot of people straight up living in the matrix. Thinking critically would be like taking the red pill each and every day. Anyone paying attention could see that herd immunity only works after a significant portion of the population is exposed. That does nothing to help you in the meantime but that blue pill is powerful.
 

Black Ambrosia

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Yup and not only that but im baffled by how no one has really cared enoigh about this family of virus to care about researching it. They been studying the flu cause that gets money for whatever reason when weve had several covid outbreaks. Its baffling.
I remember hearing awhile back that there was funding after a previous outbreak. Not sure if it was ebola, swine flu, or something else. The problem is that people lose interest after the outbreak is over. Politicians trying to balance the budget or cut taxes for the rich are able to eliminate stuff like this without much pushback so the research projects end.
 

Crackers Phinn

Either A Blessing Or A Lesson.
Yup and not only that but im baffled by how no one has really cared enoigh about this family of virus to care about researching it. They been studying the flu cause that gets money for whatever reason when weve had several covid outbreaks. Its baffling.
There was money funding research and whole teams of specialists on hand to deal with apocalypse virus strains but President Lysol Injection fired pandemic research specialists because that was a few extra coins to build the wall.

Every president has blood on their hands, even black Jesus Obama. The blood on Trump's hands has been largely unnecessary and he's so unbothered by it that I'm sure he sleeps well at night.
 

gn1g

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Is it possible for this thing to have been released in the atmosphere? It is affecting so many people so quickly and sucking the oxygen away. I didn't believe in such of thing but now I am wondering.

I would love to know. . . the journalist said keep your windows closed and stay inside. Also, people are catching it that stayed at home and didn't have anyone coming and going into their home
 

shelli4018

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I would love to know. . . the journalist said keep your windows closed and stay inside. Also, people are catching it that stayed at home and didn't have anyone coming and going into their home

I imagine most Covid+ folk are asymptomatic. If one is expecting Rona to announce herself with obvious coughing and wheezing then she will continue catching folk off guard.
 

MomofThreeBoys

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Yes I have read the reports that say that. They cannot find any evidence of CRISPR editing. But I also wonder if it escaped from that Wuhan lab. We will never know though.
Does it matter? Regardless, those wet markets were a ticking time bomb.Lab or wet market, both are reckless behavior on the Chinese governments part.
 

Crackers Phinn

Either A Blessing Or A Lesson.
I remember hearing awhile back that there was funding after a previous outbreak. Not sure if it was ebola, swine flu, or something else. The problem is that people lose interest after the outbreak is over. Politicians trying to balance the budget or cut taxes for the rich are able to eliminate stuff like this without much pushback so the research projects end.
Well there was also the false sense of security that relatively smart people were running the asylum and had a track record of keeping the number of American deaths on American soil low. I remember freaking out when one dude made it to Texas with ebola and a woman who either helped him get to the country or was somehow exposed to him took her happy behind on a plane to go to Ohio like she wasn't carrying a plague. I went back to read that thread and oh the more things change the more they stay the same.

I would love to know. . . the journalist said keep your windows closed and stay inside. Also, people are catching it that stayed at home and didn't have anyone coming and going into their home
I expect that when the smoke clears, a lot of cases of the people who got it while "staying at home" them folks really did go out. You got that politician who told everybody stay at home just to find out his wife snuck out the house to go to a bar or something. Hell, there was a thread early on about the cheating wife who was involved with somebody's cheating husband and they out there debating risking it all to get it in. A lot of times, when things happen despite the odds, better believe somebody helped them odds become more likely.
 
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