The Covid-19 Thread: News, Preparation Tips, Etc

naturalgyrl5199

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Well....this administration is certainly conspiracy minded. Certainly not above creating controversy with provocative statements. However I don’t think they’re vaccinated (I won’t rule it out yet). Perhaps they’ve bought into the Swedish approach? I believe their newfound belief that vulnerable populations will take the brunt of this pandemic is behind this push to reopen the economy.

Much like the narrative that “black folk are immune to Covid” I think “white folk are immune to Covid” is even more dangerous because of their numbers and control of western governments. Can you imagine how “economically frustrated “ Americans will react when they make up the majority of Covid deaths in the 2nd wave of infections?
They are A-Okay and have accepted ppl will die with the reopening. If they or any of their loved ones get sick they have access to health care, meds, testing, etc, and will likely survive. The women in my moms group in town are like "well we have to accept that some kids will get sick...but they need to reopen like yesterday!" The other moms are like....yeah, we'll go after your kids go.
 

shelli4018

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They are A-Okay and have accepted ppl will die with the reopening. If they or any of their loved ones get sick they have access to health care, meds, testing, etc, and will likely survive. The women in my moms group in town are like "well we have to accept that some kids will get sick...but they need to reopen like yesterday!" The other moms are like....yeah, we'll go after your kids go.
They’re convinced people who don’t look like them will die. If that changes (and it will) they’re going to act a fool. If their guy loses the election...they’re gonna act a fool. If he wins...they will act a fool.
 

ScorpioBeauty09

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Rona may force Biden’s hand. This virus exposes the flaws in our democracy. He may have to entertain more progressive policies out of necessity.
The economic fallout might. Especially if states continue to open up and deaths mount. The research shows more damage will come from refusing to shut down, than from actually shutting down.
 

Kanky

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They’re convinced people who don’t look like them will die. If that changes (and it will) they’re going to act a fool. If their guy loses the election...they’re gonna act a fool. If he wins...they will act a fool.


They will be fine with any amount of devastation as long as they can be convinced that other people have it worse. The news will show nonwhite suffering porn and they will be happy to suffer slightly less. In order to get progressive policy we need to show them images of black people living it up and white people struggling and looking miserable. Then they will want a new New Deal. :lol:
 

Everything Zen

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They will be fine with any amount of devastation as long as they can be convinced that other people have it worse. The news will show nonwhite suffering porn and they will be happy to suffer slightly less. In order to get progressive policy we need to show them images of black people living it up and white people struggling and looking miserable. Then they will want a new New Deal. :lol:

So should we continue to show nonwhite suffering porn to confuse them or nah? Is a New Deal worth all that? :look:
 

shelli4018

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They will be fine with any amount of devastation as long as they can be convinced that other people have it worse. The news will show nonwhite suffering porn and they will be happy to suffer slightly less. In order to get progressive policy we need to show them images of black people living it up and white people struggling and looking miserable. Then they will want a new New Deal. :lol:
I think this happened during the Obama years. Just left them seething and full of grievances. They were so angry they gave us Trump. And they will continue being angry because their lives really are getting worse thanks to stagnant wages, shorten end lifespan and the disappearing middle class.
 

Kanky

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So should we continue to show nonwhite suffering porn to confuse them or nah? Is a New Deal worth all that? :look:

We need images of white people suffering. Sad stories about Covid Chad and Corona Karen struggling and in need of huge middle class tax breaks, $15 minimum wage, low interest home loans, student loan forgiveness, universal preK and health care reform to hep them get back on their feet.
 

Peppermynt

Defying Gravity
The Spanish Flu epidemic lasted 3 years. Folk acted a fool about wearing masks and 10’s of millions died worldwide. Particularly in the 2nd wave. Cities that locked down fared better than those who did not.

We’re repeating all those mistakes.

There was a great pbs hour long episode on the 1918 flu epidemic that I watched the other day that was very interesting. It’s like we are running that same failed playbook in the US despite being -in theory- a wealthier and more scientifically advanced country. Sad we still can’t get it together.
 

Evolving78

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I think this happened during the Obama years. Just left them seething and full of grievances. They were so angry they gave us Trump. And they will continue being angry because their lives really are getting worse thanks to stagnant wages, shorten end lifespan and the disappearing middle class.
Yes! When he was campaigning, they were knocking on yt folks doors’ and and sitting at their kitchen tables.
I know yt folks were going to start getting reckless when the media and surgeon general started pushing the agenda of POC dying in large numbers from the virus, due to our poor health and living conditions.
 

sunshinebeautiful

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There was a great pbs hour long episode on the 1918 flu epidemic that I watched the other day that was very interesting. It’s like we are running that same failed playbook in the US despite being -in theory- a wealthier and more scientifically advanced country. Sad we still can’t get it together.

I'm interested in checking this out. I can't remember if this was posted here or elsewhere, but an investigative journalist from the Washington Post created a Twitter thread on her research regarding public health efforts and protests during the Spanish influenza, using San Francisco as a point of reference. As she starts out... history doesn't repeat itself but it sure does rhyme. There are so many parallels as to what's unfolding right here, right now.

Here's a link to the first tweet in the Twitter thread. There are like 20 tweets with links to references. You can click through to read the whole thing:
Note: There a typo in the original tweet. It's supposed to say 1918.
 
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SoniT

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I'm interested in checking this out. I can't remember if this was posted here or elsewhere, but an investigative journalist from the Washington Post created a Twitter thread on her research regarding public health efforts and protests during the Spanish influenza, using San Francisco as a point of reference. As she starts out... history doesn't repeat itself but it sure does rhyme. There are so many parallels as to what's unfolding right here, right now.

Here's a link to the first tweet in the Twitter thread. There are like 20 tweets with links to references. You can click through to read the whole thing:
I'm reading the Twitter thread and this story could have taken place in 2020. The parallels are crazy.
 

meka72

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One of Trump's personal valets has tested positive for coronavirus
(CNN) — A member of the US Navy who serves as one of President Donald Trump'spersonal valets has tested positive for coronavirus, CNN learned Thursday, raising concerns about the President's possible exposure to the virus.

The valets are members of an elite military unit dedicated to the White House and often work very close to the President and first family. Trump was upset when he was informed Wednesday that the valet had tested positive, a source told CNN, and the President was subsequently tested again by the White House physician.

In a statement, the White House confirmed CNN's reporting that one of the President's staffers had tested positive.

"We were recently notified by the White House Medical Unit that a member of the United States Military, who works on the White House campus, has tested positive for Coronavirus," deputy White House press secretary Hogan Gidley said in a statement. "The President and the Vice President have since tested negative for the virus and they remain in great health."


A White House source said the valet, a man who has not been identified, exhibited "symptoms" Wednesday morning, and said the news that someone close to Trump had tested positive for coronavirus was "hitting the fan" in the West Wing.

Trump,
who is a self-described germophobe, has chastised aides before who coughed or sneezed in his presence. He has claimed to rarely get sick himself.
Trump, Vice President Mike Pence and the senior staffers who regularly interact with them are still being tested weekly for coronavirus, two people familiar told CNN.
The White House is continuing to use the rapid Abbott Labs test, which provide results in about 15 minutes. Several officials who have received the test said it's often administered in the Eisenhower Executive Office Building, next door to the West Wing on the White House grounds. A medical official swabs the staffer's nostrils and informs them that they'll be notified within the next several minutes if it's positive.

Still, the White House has not enforced strict social distancing guidelines for staffers and few people inside the building wear masks during the day, including valets.

Trump said before traveling aboard Air Force One earlier this week that he was not concerned about being in close quarters with other people since those around him are regularly tested.

"The test result comes back in five minutes, and we have great testing. Or they wouldn't be allowed to travel with me," Trump said. "It's not my choice; it's a very strong group of people that want to make sure they are tested, including Secret Service."

Still, a negative test and lack of symptoms isn't a sure sign that someone can't spread the virus.

Doctors say the incubation period for the coronavirus varies. The incubation period is the time that it takes from when you are exposed to the virus to developing symptoms. It ranges anywhere from 2-14 days. The average incubation period is estimated to be five days, according to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.


People can be infectious, meaning they can transmit the virus to somebody else, up to two days before they start showing symptoms. Like any other virus, this can vary from person to person.

The coronavirus is spread between people mainly through respiratory droplets produced when an infected person coughs or sneezes. These droplets can then spread to the nose or mouth of people nearby or possibly be inhaled into the lungs, according to the CDC. This type of spread is more likely when people are in close contact with each other, within about six feet.

The CDC says that people who feel healthy but recently had close contact with a person with Covid-19 should stay home and monitor their health. They should quarantine by staying home until 14 days after their last exposure and should check their temperature twice a day and watch for symptoms. The CDC also recommends they stay away from people who are at higher risk for becoming very ill.

The White House did not say whether Trump would adhere to those guidelines after his valet tested positive.
 
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