Are you a hair minority? (Southern Tease's Black Comb/Belt spin-off)

Do you feel like a "hair minority"?


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SouthernJewel

exceeding expectations...
I mean, should it even be about being a minority or majority? This is LHCF, where all here for the same reasons. Why are we even passing judgement on each other in the first place?

True,true.
People will be people though.Everyone isnt going to respect or understand anothers choice(s) and thats fine.

I respect peoples choices.Passing judgement wont make them go slap a perm on there head, just like you passing judgement won't persuade me to go natural.So at the end of the day,theres no point in passing judgement. :yep:
 

macherieamour

New Member
True,true.
People will be people though.Everyone isnt going to respect or understand anothers choice(s) and thats fine.

I respect peoples choices.Passing judgement wont make them go slap a perm on there head, just like you passing judgement won't persuade me to go natural.So at the end of the day,theres no point in passing judgement. :yep:

you got a point there :yep:
 

DeepBluSea

Well-Known Member
You cannot expect everyone to agree on everything. We often say all are welcome here, kumbayah, yadayadayada. But, people have opinions. You are going to have relaxers are better vs natural is better. As long as people are respectful and not bashing an individual person for their choice, it is OK to talk about why one thinks women in general are relaxed or natural. Relaxed heads may be feeling unpopular this week, but next week when people are posting about the newest relaxer or their fly rollerset, I can't get all flustered as a natural. Yall don't need to be like that.
 

SparklingFlame

New Member
Hair is hair is hair is hair is hair.

Its all about how you CHOOSE to wear it. Relaxed, natural, or texlaxed, bald headed or whatever. I really hate division especially about something so superficial as hair.
 

Lovelylocs

Well-Known Member
Ah I see so all this is in response to another thread? I was confused because I haven't noticed a division to the degree described in some of the posts in this thread. To me I it seems like it comes in waves a new class of transitioners, another group of returning to relaxers. Some people continue to bounce back and forth others stay put. We're all here because we love hair and want to grow it.

Note: To a lot of other hair boards out there this is till considered a very relaxed/chemical treatment centered board. Perspective.

This is what I thought too. :yep: Relaxed heads are the hair majority so if naturals want to rally around smthg every once in a while, I support it. :yep: I think it's great! Natural hair can be very beautiful and we all have it if when retouch time comes around. :lol: I just think that if someone is spreading untruths or misconceptions about relaxed or natural hair, then we should correct them. I think that we can all agree about that. :)
 
I'm natural and I prefer to use natural and homemade products - so I definitely feel like a minority. It's hard to be apart of a community where people are not interested in any of the things you want to discuss or experiment with. I feel like I am just left out of most discussion topics on this board. Speaking of which - I will probably drop out of the newbie challenge seeing as none of the posts are relevant to me. :perplexed Back to NP - I guess.
 

Lady Esquire

New Member
A hair minority or subordinate group is a group of people whose hair does not constitute a dominant plurality of the total population of a given hair society. A hair minority is not necessarily a numerical minority — it may include any group with a hair type that is disadvantaged with respect to a dominant hair group in terms of hair products, hair education, employment, access to stylists who know how to take care of ur hair, and/or general acceptance of your hair by society. To avoid confusion, some people may prefer the terms "subordinate hair group" and "dominant hair group" rather than "hair minority" and "hair majority".


:lachen: :lachen: This is what Souther Tease's thread made me think of. :lol: I didn't feel like I had a right to down them for wanting to play up their naturalness as part of the "hair majority", perhaps I just don't understand. :ohwell: But, I think that regardless of your hair orientation, all hair types should be treated equally. :yep: I mean some believe in separate but equal hair societies a la the boards for naturals only, but I like how the LHCF is like a melting pot! ;)

:p :lachen:

No, I have never seperated it in those terms, although I did think that SouthernTease's thread was cute. I was natural for the first year of my healthy hair journey and then went relaxed. Its a personal choice, for many reasons. But if one is loving and nurturing their hair, either natural or relaxed, that is all that matters.

A lot of the things we do are common practice: Prepoos, DCs, etc... and to me its all beautiful black hair.
 

didirose

Active Member
Yes a VERY relaxed centered board in relation to some others. That point is not really being acknowledged here. I don't believe that anyone means to put anyone else down, however in such a mixed atmosphere please note that you will not always be included in the category. And thats ok.

Funny, as of late I haven't considered this to be a relaxed centered board. In fact a couple of weeks ago someone put a poll out and their seemed to be an even number of naturals and relaxed heads here. I've noticed a few things here lately:

Relaxed heads feeling less supported and made to feel ashamed of their "creamy crack" heads.

Naturals feeling unsupported because they need more ideas and suggestions in styling their natural heads


I guess like some have suggested it may be due to the change in season but we've all been a little screwy around here lately.:spinning: When I first discovered hairboards I found more than a couple for naturals but lhcf was the only one that dealt with the care of relaxed heads in a way I could both agree with and could learn more from. So I really can't imagine where a relaxed head would go to if lhcf suddenly became more dominantly natural.

About melting pot, I'm glad this was brought up. I think many of us really don't want to feel like they are assimilating toward what they think the dominant presence is here. Hey, let's face it we have a board full of fierce and unique individuals and many want to make statments of beauty and one of politics with their hair. So if we must segregate to have peace let's do it right. We should have a forum for natural who stay khinki/curly, naturals who straighten with heat, bone straight relaxers, and my little people, texlaxers/texturizers. We can do this or we can stay the happy little salad bowl we are made up of with different ingredients that congeal into a tasty meal.:grin:

IMO, strictly!
 

crumbling_images

New Member
On the hair boards, I've found that true natural type 4b hair is a minority. It seems that everyone pours over beautiful type 3 curls and type 4a that can look like type 3 something curls. I could be wrong. I don't see enough healthy natural type 4b hair with sheen and gloss; especially if the length is above the shoulders.
 

Ntrlmystik

New Member
:lachen::lachen:I wasn't born 1960's but I've had every hair style and color ...Too....I know I'm getting old ..I'll be 31 in a week or so

HOld up wait a minute...I am going to be 3-0 in a couple of months...You are NOT old...LOL

Back to the topic. When I first signed on to this lhcf years ago, members on this board is what inspired me to go natural. I never felt excluded here. This is the only hairboard I frequent. I tried nappturality but i preferreed lchf. Now that I have processed hair, I am still able to use this site and never felt that it was too much of one thing. I mean if there is a thread about fro's, twa,..its not for me. But on the flip side, if there is a thread about relaxed mid back lenght hair thats not for me either. Its a forum meaning every topic cannot be directed towards EVERYONE! There isn't anything that can be ALL things to ALL people. Chilax.
 
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ChanelNo5

Well-Known Member
I know this is kinda random but, at least over here we have our eyes on the prize which is our hair. Relaxed or natural.

I visited another hair board (which I won't name, but yall ain't slow :drunk:), anyway, how bout their lacefront forum and then the weave extension forum exceeds the hair growth forum and others in posts and threads by far. :lachen: I'm talking by thousands :perplexed.

Don't get me wrong nothing wrong with a good weave, shoot I got one in right now. But my eyes are fixed on the real prize.
 

SparklingFlame

New Member
I know this is kinda random but, at least over here we have our eyes on the prize which is our hair. Relaxed or natural.

I visited another hair board (which I won't name, but yall ain't slow :drunk:), anyway, how bout their lacefront forum and then the weave extension forum exceeds the hair growth forum and others in posts and threads by far. :lachen: I'm talking by thousands :perplexed.

Don't get me wrong nothing wrong with a good weave, shoot I got one in right now. But my eyes are fixed on the real prize.
:lachen::lachen::lachen::lachen:
 

SunySydeofLyfe

Well-Known Member
I know this is kinda random but, at least over here we have our eyes on the prize which is our hair. Relaxed or natural.

I visited another hair board (which I won't name, but yall ain't slow :drunk:), anyway, how bout their lacefront forum and then the weave extension forum exceeds the hair growth forum and others in posts and threads by far. :lachen: I'm talking by thousands :perplexed.

Don't get me wrong nothing wrong with a good weave, shoot I got one in right now. But my eyes are fixed on the real prize.

I thought the same thing, I recently stopped with the thinning, temporary hair fix, hair cant grow long myths and started finding my way to long lusious 'weave' like hair....:grin:
 

Lovelylocs

Well-Known Member
On the hair boards, I've found that true natural type 4b hair is a minority. It seems that everyone pours over beautiful type 3 curls and type 4a that can look like type 3 something curls. I could be wrong. I don't see enough healthy natural type 4b hair with sheen and gloss; especially if the length is above the shoulders.

I agree w/you. Even online I couldn't find any, it all looked dry or was in braids or covered up in some other way. Of course I know that natural type 4b hair can be healthy and beautiful too, but I want to see some results. I wanna see some pics.
 

Lovelylocs

Well-Known Member
I know this is kinda random but, at least over here we have our eyes on the prize which is our hair. Relaxed or natural.

I visited another hair board (which I won't name, but yall ain't slow :drunk:), anyway, how bout their lacefront forum and then the weave extension forum exceeds the hair growth forum and others in posts and threads by far. :lachen: I'm talking by thousands :perplexed.

Don't get me wrong nothing wrong with a good weave, shoot I got one in right now. But my eyes are fixed on the real prize.

:lachen: :lachen: :lachen: :up:
 

ChanelNo5

Well-Known Member
^^Yall are laughin, but I was very sad at first:sad:.I mean we you have the knowledge now, why my sisters why
 

Lovelylocs

Well-Known Member
^^Yall are laughin, but I was very sad at first:sad:.I mean we you have the knowledge now, why my sisters why

Well, I guess the other boards don't really have the knowledge yet. They must not believe it. Maybe they don't have as many positive hair role models on their boards. One board accused the LHCF of having a bunch of biracial ladies and that's why we see such great results. :yep: Of crouse we know that's not true.
 

Extremus

Well-Known Member
On the hair boards, I've found that true natural type 4b hair is a minority. It seems that everyone pours over beautiful type 3 curls and type 4a that can look like type 3 something curls. I could be wrong. I don't see enough healthy natural type 4b hair with sheen and gloss; especially if the length is above the shoulders.

agree :yep:
 

LadyKaypnyc

New Member
I'm natural and I prefer to use natural and homemade products - so I definitely feel like a minority. It's hard to be apart of a community where people are not interested in any of the things you want to discuss or experiment with. I feel like I am just left out of most discussion topics on this board. Speaking of which - I will probably drop out of the newbie challenge seeing as none of the posts are relevant to me. :perplexed Back to NP - I guess.

A lot of people here make their own products...Make your own challenge and add your own threads about the products you use and make. You'd be surprised at how similar we all really are...:yep:

Initially, I wasn't going to post a response to this thread, b/c it made me unconfortable. I'm a member of other forums, such as Nappturality, but I frequent the lhcf more often b/c I love the diversity. It seems like Black folks are always looking for way to create dissension...Permed, natural, texlaxed...can't we all just get along!:cry:
 
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wonderstar

Active Member
^^Yall are laughin, but I was very sad at first:sad:.I mean we you have the knowledge now, why my sisters why

You said it best "we have the knowledge" but I don't think you should be making fun of them because although lf's are more expensive they don't require the use of chemicals.........Please don't tell me that you don't know the harmful effects of relaxers:rolleyes:.
 

Lovelylocs

Well-Known Member
You said it best "we have the knowledge" but I don't think you should be making fun of them because although lf's are more expensive they don't require the use of chemicals.........Please don't tell me that you don't know the harmful effects of relaxers:rolleyes:.

To me, dependency on wigs and other types of fake hair represents the harmful effects of smthg else...

What are the harmful effects of relaxers when the relaxers are used properly?
 

Ms.Honey

New Member
A lot of people here make their own products...Make your own challenge and add your own threads about the products you use and make. You'd be surprised at how similar we all really are...:yep:

Initially, I wasn't going to post a response to this thread, b/c it made me unconfortable. I'm a member of other forums, such as Nappturality, but I frequent the lhcf more often b/c I love the diversity. It seems like Black folks are always looking for way to create dissension...Permed, natural, texlaxed...can't we all just get along!:cry:

I wholeheartedly agree!!! We have become so hateful towards each other on the hair forums because of our hairstyle choices. The very thing that we said caused us to be discriminated against we turn around and use to discriminate against each other ON A HAIR FORUM, a place where we're supposed to come together and celebrate our diversity and support each other.
 

cocoberry10

New Member
I would say I'm a minority....Here...(Not in the real world)...It's like you have to be natural to be respected or to be considered skilled ......To be natural or to be relaxed is a choice and should be treated the same....Give credit where credit is due.....Relaxed or Natural!!!

I totally agree with this, and I'm going natural (for my own personal reasons). I think you have to find what works for you. I am so inspired by the ladies on this board and I know that natural or relaxed, my hair can be beautiful!
 

cocoberry10

New Member
Yes. :yep: Natural hair can be very beautiful! :yep:

But, I think that some naturals assume that all relaxed haired people are ignorant. :lol: That we relax our hair b/c we hate our natural hair texture or b/c we want to look less black. Now, while I can see this in regular world, I don't think that this is as much of an issue in hair world. :nono: After being on the LHCF for some time, I will go out on a limb and say that most of us know that natural hair is beautiful too and having relaxed hair is a choice.

Another misconception is that all relaxed hair is damaged. :ohwell: This is simply not true.

And I don't think that naturals who straighten their hair every week w/heat and hardly ever if ever wears her hair in its natural state should judge a relaxed person for relaxing her hair. :nono: ETA: Especially, if u are constantly wearing wigs, braided extensions, or weaves, well how come we never see ur hair? :cool:

Sadly, I agree with your bolded (but not so much on this board, since we have a healthy combination of both)!

I think there are plenty of self-hating naturals out there who rock their fro, but truly don't love their hair or themselves. I learned a long time ago, anyone can love or hate themselves, no matter how they wear their hair.

Remember, what India said "I am not my hair"!
 

SparklingFlame

New Member
I think there are plenty of self-hating naturals out there who rock their fro, but truly don't love their hair or themselves. I learned a long time ago, anyone can love or hate themselves, no matter how they wear their hair.
I tried to make this point on another hair board b/c it seems like the sentiment over there is that if you're natural then you have all this self love. PLEASE. I know there are plenty of natural women who hate themselves and have low self esteem. Hair has nothing to do with how you view yourself and how you think feel about yourself and your worth. Nobody would bother to respond to my post on the other forum. Surprise surprise. :rolleyes:
 

anon123

Well-Known Member
I agree w/you. Even online I couldn't find any, it all looked dry or was in braids or covered up in some other way. Of course I know that natural type 4b hair can be healthy and beautiful too, but I want to see some results. I wanna see some pics.

Ouch! My feelings just got hurt! 4B hair will always look drier than other hair types unless it's wet or coated with greasy shiny stuff. I prefer my dry look to a greasy feeling, so even when I've freshly "moisturized", it still looks like this:
http://public.fotki.com/mwedzi/2007-hair-1/pinnedfroprofile.html
Doesn't mean it's unhealthy. :wink2:

NaturalLady, I don't know which other board you are talking about :scratchch, but on all the ones I chat on, even the very pro-nappy ones, there's always diversity of opinion, even on the whole self-love/hate issue. I've contributed to discussions on why I don't think straightening is necessarily self-hate, but lots don't agree. Eh, that's the way it is with opinions. Everyone thinks themselves right and that the other person just refuses to really listen or to really see the Truth. I've caught myself saying/feeling that at times, too. :meditate:
 
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bbdgirl

New Member
A lot of people here make their own products...Make your own challenge and add your own threads about the products you use and make. You'd be surprised at how similar we all really are...:yep:

It seems like Black folks are always looking for way to create dissension...Permed, natural, texlaxed...can't we all just get along!:cry:

This is the thing about the tone of the other thread it seemed a little high handed and condescending to those who have relaxed hair.

I had natural Hair for a few years myself and I never thought that I was better than those sporting relaxers. I became re-acquainted with my natural texture and I love it. That was what was important to me. Me loving m self and my texture.

I am truly in love with both my texture and versatility of a relaxer, thats why I texlax. I reject wholeheartedly that this makes me a "minority"!!!
 
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