YOU MUST WATCH this hurry it may be taken off utube today Oprah denies Jesus! (2KB)

chicacanella

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I've not seen the clip becuase I am at work and youtube is blocked.

My thought on the bolded - whether it is right or wrong, Oprah is not going to tell a large chunk of her audience (directly or indirectly) that they are wrong because they do not believe Jesus is the way and the truth. I don't know what % of Oprah's audience is non-Christian but I'd assume it was quite a lot. If she stood up there saying "If you don't believe in Jesus, you are going to hell!" or someting along those lines I am sure that people would call her judgemental, would stop watching her and she would no longer have her "global reach".

I guess she is trying to watch what she says so she doesn't offend anybody - and I'm sure she has people that advise her on this.

Again, I'm not saying she is right to do it but I think I get the "why" behind it


And that in itself is the problem with being a secular artist. Jesus said that if you deny him before men, then he will deny you before his father. There isn't enough money, or power, or audience seclusion in the world to make me deny Jesus.
 

chicacanella

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I actaully feel sick to my stomach right now. I knew that something wasn't right with her a few years ago when she started that spritual "thing" on her show a few years ago.

What make Oprah think God is jealous of her? She does not know what that scripture means. It means don't put anything before him.. Not your boyfriend, your husband or even your Pastor. That is what he is jealous of. This saddens my spirit and heart. Many are called, few are chosen and she is acting like she is not chosen.

We are definately in the last days. The fact that the govt wants to start a Dept. of peace is a sure sign.

Let's all add Oprah to our prayer list.


That is why the bible says that the Word of God is foolishness to people who don't believe or heathens. You need the holy spirit to interpret the scripture, which is why an agnostic may be able to understand some things but other things, he or she can not. And even people who have received the holy spirit get it wrong sometimes, how much more will someone who doesn't have revelation get it wrong?
 

TrustMeLove

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Obama has said the same thing. About Jesus being his way, but nto the only way for people. I wonder if they are using words in a very specific way not to offend people.

Meaning Jesus is his way..the only way for him to live peacefully, happily, and lovingly here on this earth. But, others may find they live that way following something else?

I don't know and I can't make excuses for them. But, this is one thing about Obama I do not like. Eventhough these folks are grown they are babies when it comes to Christ. Maybe God will use them and make it clear and real to him that he is the only way.

I believe Jesus is the only to God who created us.
 

BrownSkin2

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John 14
Jesus is the Way, the Truth, and the Life, no one come to the father except through him. That is the Only way.

Mya Angelo and Oprah stopped associating with each other a few years ago because Mya thought Oprah go too "uppity and New age for her." Wonder if this had something to do with it. Mya is older and a wise woman... hmmm.
 

Hair Iam

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And that in itself is the problem with being a secular artist. Jesus said that if you deny him before men, then he will deny you before his father. There isn't enough money, or power, or audience seclusion in the world to make me deny Jesus.


God bless..powerful
 

gone_fishing

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OPRAH - GOD IS JEALOUS FOR YOUR SOUL! NOT FOR YOUR MONEY - NOT FOR YOUR LIFE for GOD GIVETH AND GOD TAKETH AWAY!

HE WANTS YOUR SOUL WITH HIM AND NOT IN ETERNAL DAMNATION! THAT IS WHAT THAT JEALOUS MEANS!

God is speaking of people making idols and bowing down and worshiping those idols instead of giving God the worship that belongs to Him alone. God is possessive of the worship and service that belong to Him. It is a sin (as God points out in this commandment) to worship or serve anything other than Him. So, in summary, it is a sin when we desire, or we are envious, or we are jealous of someone because he has something that we do not have. It is a different use of the word jealous when God says He is jealous. What He is jealous for belongs to Him; worship and service belong to Him alone, and are to be given to Him alone.
 

Highly Favored8

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WOW this is a deep thread! Wow it says in Galatians 6:7 NLT

We reap what we sow!

Pray for Oprah!
 

discobiscuits

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God's name is Jealous. Ex. 34:14

(Note:keep in mind that this is primarily in direct relation to God's covenant with Israel. this is not to say that he is not still the same way - God is unchanging - but this passage, is specific to His covenant with Israel)

I found a good link that is very short and sweet. http://www.rationalchristianity.net/jealous.html

Perhaps Oprah misunderstood what the minister meant and he probably did not explain what it meant. But Oprah (from what I've seen in the clip that we are discussing) has not denied Jesus.

I also disagree that she is trying to appeal to mass audiences and does not want to offend her viewers. It is my opinion that the vast majority of her "followers" are Christians. In a clip I saw (not sure if it was the one we are discussing) a Christian asked how to reconcile her Christian faith/beliefs with ET's book.

We, in America, have been exposed to God's word and offered salvation, it is each individual's decision if they wish to accept the Gift that is freely given by God.

Oprah is accountable to the Jesus/God that she claims she believes in for all that she does as it relates to possibly leading people down paths away from Truth, but she is not responsible for the decisions her viewers make to follow her.

I guess we should also be down on her for introducing people to The Secret. There are several threads on LHCF about that and there are many members here, Christian and not, who are practicing the principles taught in The Secret.

Is it any less "incorrect" for a Christian to ask the "universe" for what you want, believe and then receive? That is exactly what TS teaches. It is also EXACTLY what prosperity teachers teach. The only difference is in church we are taught to ask God not the universe.

I think that my point is, just because Oprah thinks that there are other beliefs out there or other ways to get to God does not mean that she herself has rejected or denounces Christ.

Yes, we can still ask the question, how does one who DOES believe in and follow Christ willingly espouse beliefs that the bible teaches against?

Perhaps, we should all pray for Oprah. Let me also add, Jesus said to love our neighbor - on that commandment hang all the others and the profits. So far she seems to be exemplifying that - she loves people so much that she uses her power and wealth to make other people's lives better and isn't that what Christ taught? She is doing the right thing (meaning loving her neighbor), she just may be doing it in the wrong way and possibly stemming all the way back to incorrect teaching from the pulpit and poor examples from other Christians.


My apologies for my "rant"(?) I just have so much to say. Sorry :rolleyes:




 
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didirose

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^^^ I think you said it pretty well>

In regards the "Secret" and this idea of the "universe". Those who call ourselves Christian should be weary of equating God to the universe, or energy, or even force or source. These things are God created which is the only reason why man can manipulate them. Science is learning more of how to manipulate this energy, God's creation, however I don't think it's wise for those who label themselves Christian to think they are manifesting goals/relationships/material things by tapping into God when in actually it is only the use of his creation.

In regards to Oprah, yes even the great talk show host can make spiritual mistakes. She's human. I hope while she opens her book and meditates with Tolle she continues to open her bible and seek some guidance from her pastor.

*huge sigh*:sad:

It's still even a "medical" fact that prayer still works.*deeper sigh*
 

melodee

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didirose, I like your post and agree.

Also to further clarify, physical/measurable energy and spiritual/unmeasurable energy are two different things. Science deals with physical energy, and metaphysics takes it beyond the physical to the "meta physical".
 
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