Naturals, How do you eliminate frizz in your bantu knots or twist outs? please help!

yodie

Well-Known Member
My bantu knot sets start out nice and then turns into frizz city. Do u use a special product or technique to eliminate frizz?

I need help!!
Thanks
 
Re: Naturals, How do you eliminate frizz in your bantu knots or twist outs? please he

The ONLY time I get a good twist out is if I've let the twists "marinate :)" for at least a week - preferably 2. And I "moisturize" with coconut oil every night. I can NEVER get a decent "overnight twist out". And my twists have to be small. I guess b/c my hair is thick, large twists make my hair look that much puffier.
 

BlaqBella

Well-Known Member
Re: Naturals, How do you eliminate frizz in your bantu knots or twist outs? please he

There's a youtube vlogger named prettydimples who twists her strands as she goes (if that makes sense) idk.HTH.
 

Taleah2009

Well-Known Member
Re: Naturals, How do you eliminate frizz in your bantu knots or twist outs? please he

My bantu knot sets start out nice and then turns into frizz city. Do u use a special product or technique to eliminate frizz?

I need help!!
Thanks

I have the same problem! I can get only one good day, then my hair starts to frizz and my permed ends start to look extremely dry!
 

yodie

Well-Known Member
Re: Naturals, How do you eliminate frizz in your bantu knots or twist outs? please he

There's a youtube vlogger named prettydimples who twists her strands as she goes (if that makes sense) idk.HTH.

Not sure what u mean. I'll check it out. My hair looks a hot mess!
 

LoveCraze

Naturalista
Re: Naturals, How do you eliminate frizz in your bantu knots or twist outs? please he

Try moisturizing your ends. You can even put a little castor oil on the ends to help with frizz as you wrap/twist your hair. Sometimes I use Cantu shea butter for my bantu knot outs and it works really well. Also when you take them down, again use a lite oil on your fingers and run it along your twist. :nono2: Never take them down while wet as this will definately cause major frizz!! HTH.
 

Avyn

Well-Known Member
Re: Naturals, How do you eliminate frizz in your bantu knots or twist outs? please he

on the first day after i wash i use a mixture of cabello mane and tail conditioner and coconut oil w/ water if my hair dries. when i take my hair down the next morning its nice and not frizzy. on the days that i retwist i just twist and spray a little water on the ends to curl them up. my hair stays shiny all week (i wash once a week and i'm natural).
 

yodie

Well-Known Member
Re: Naturals, How do you eliminate frizz in your bantu knots or twist outs? please he

Thanks ladies. Tried castor oil on my ends and I rub a little coconut oil thru my hair. Still frizz city. My twists look ok when I dry under a hooded dryer, flat iron and then twist. I get major frizz if I don't flat iron.
 

Sunshine_One

Well-Known Member
Re: Naturals, How do you eliminate frizz in your bantu knots or twist outs? please he

Yodie,

Have you tried applying a curl cream before setting your twists/bantu knot sets? I ask because they can help keep the hair moisturized and frizz free. Also, be careful when uneraveling your twists. I always glaze my finger with an oil before untwisting my hair and before I finger style.

Here is a good inexpensive curl cream that you should be able to get @ your local CVS.

Vigorol Curling Cream:

http://www.beautyofnewyork.com/shopping/XG3Y130207KV0826.htm

HTH
 
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Re: Naturals, How do you eliminate frizz in your bantu knots or twist outs? please he

Moisturizer, moisturizer daily is key. But I apply products in this order 1. leave-in 2. styling product with hold 3. butter of choice and before I take down the down the knot I reapply butter and spritz moisturizer to it.
 

Sweetyb

Active Member
Re: Naturals, How do you eliminate frizz in your bantu knots or twist outs? please he

I would make sure the hair is as smooth as possible. I will moisturize, then follow with oil and brush each section with a Denman brush before twisting. I sometimes remember to use wrap foam whick seals in the shape of the twists. I make sure to twist firmly and let set overnight or two days before unraveling.
 

tocktick

Well-Known Member
Re: Naturals, How do you eliminate frizz in your bantu knots or twist outs? please he

* Use aloe-vera gel mixed with oil when twisting.
* When taking out, coat hands with a little olive oil.
* Do not fluff the hair too much or separate twists more than needed.
 

Priss Pot

Makeup + Bench Pressing
Re: Naturals, How do you eliminate frizz in your bantu knots or twist outs? please he

I make sure my ends are detangled really well (very important, or they will poof up), and I make sure to smooth on a butter or heavy oil (like castor oil) before twisting each piece. It really makes for a shiny and defined twistout. Just be sure not to try removing the twists before the hair is fully dry.
 

melodies815

New Member
Re: Naturals, How do you eliminate frizz in your bantu knots or twist outs? please he

I don't have the regimen posted right now in my Picasa web album, but for DD, who has hair that is the most frizzy/curly hair I have ever encountered, I did the following:


  1. Wash and condition your way. Use whatever, but if your conditioner has cones, rinse it out EXTREMELY WELL!!! No-cone condish is the most fail-safe way to do this style properly.
  2. Gently towel dry.
  3. Wrap towel around neck to catch any dripping/protect clothing.
  4. Take section you intent to bantu knot or twist and spray lightly along it with a nice mix of cone-free conditioner and water...or whatever you use to mist. NO CONES, THOUGH!!! If you use a conditioner with cones, you'll get little white balls that make your hair look crazy. Rub down the entire section of hair.
  5. Lightly shea butter each section as well.
  6. Lastly, lightly (lightly) use gel along each section ....and then twist or bantu knot.
(It sounds like a lot, but it is not a lot. The prep for each section you twist or knot is under a minute.)

7. It takes about 45 in to do the entire head. Sit under dryer
until completely dry. This is important. Leave it alone until
its completely dry!!!
8. Take down carefully. Don't fluff a whole lot. Just gently
separate, though you can twist each section around your
finger (in the direction of the twist or knot) to encourage
more curliness.

You will remain frizz free - completely frizz free for the duration of this style. The light gel is the key. You can also use Fantasia IC Wrap Mouse if you want to. Make sure you put some moisturizing UNDER the gel so your hair comes out with great hold and defined but still soft.

Shampoo: any mostly clear, cone-free shampoo
Conditioner: any moisturizing cone-free conditioner.
Water-based moisturizer: in a spray bottle to keep hair damp while styling. Again, no cones!!!
Creamy moisturizer/butter: preferably a butter, but I am sure an oil like coconut, castor oil, or jojoba will work too. Just make sure to use a thick moisturizer because you want to "trap" moisture under the gel for the duration of the style.
Gel: Fantasia IC gel, or any other non-flaking, alcohol-free gel. I hear Eco Styler is great too. In a pinch, feel free to use a cone-free wrapping lotion. Fantasia makes a great wrap mousse!!
Dryer: Bonnet preferred to get good heat coverage and even drying, but I am sure any one will do.

Don't take down before dry or you WILL frizz.

The only maintenance is to re-twist or re-knot nightly if you're a wild sleeper. If you sleep neatly, put a neat bun on top of your head. Shorter hair, just satin-bonnet it.

I hope this helps. I do DD's hair like this all the time, and IT WORKS!!!

Next time I do her hair I will take pics and post here.

subscribing...

cj
 

honeybuni84

New Member
Re: Naturals, How do you eliminate frizz in your bantu knots or twist outs? please he

^^^ I am going to try this the next time i twist.... But somehow your repeated
"NO CONES" made me chuckle...


what are some good no cones shampoos and cons? I just got off sulfates and the difference is AMAZING
 

melodies815

New Member
Re: Naturals, How do you eliminate frizz in your bantu knots or twist outs? please he

^^^ I am going to try this the next time i twist.... But somehow your repeated
"NO CONES" made me chuckle...


what are some good no cones shampoos and cons? I just got off sulfates and the difference is AMAZING


I thought...maybe I shouldn't write that so many times, but then I remember when I was new here, I used no cones in one product but cones in the other and my hair came out with those white balls. I couldn't figure it out for months! :wallbash:

Hopefully,no one will make the same mistake I did.

(Hope I didn't sound bossy. I'm scared of the board, mommy...)

For no-cone shampoos - just about anything clear-ish. A lot of the creamier ones have them...not sure why, maybe for a little slip? I dunno. But you're avoiding sulfates too, so I really don't know. I hope to get to that place as well, but I have not yet found a product that I like and that works well for my hair.

I use Pantene's clarifier and Pantene's cassia shampoo...not sure what it's called. It rinses out so well!

Post pics when you do this so we can see...if you feel up to it.

Blessings,

cj
 

cmw45

Well-Known Member
Re: Naturals, How do you eliminate frizz in your bantu knots or twist outs? please he

Thanks ladies. Tried castor oil on my ends and I rub a little coconut oil thru my hair. Still frizz city. My twists look ok when I dry under a hooded dryer, flat iron and then twist. I get major frizz if I don't flat iron.

In general my rules are:

1) The heavier the product used, the more defined the resulting twist/braid out will be. I get the best "defined" twist/braid outs when I use shea butter. The oils kind of sit on my hair in general and make my hair just feel greasy so I don't use them.

2) The longer the hair is left in braids/twist, the more defined the resulting twist/braid out will be. When I want a really defined braidout I will leave my hair in braids for a couple of days (wrapping it up with a cute hat or scarf).

3) The smaller the braids/twist, the more defined the resulting twist/braid out will be.

4) The dryer the braids/twist are when they are being unravelled, the more defined the resulting twist/braid out will be. This rule kind of goes hand in hand with rule 2, but is a standalone since even if you left your braids/twist in for several days, if they are at all damp or wet when you remove them the resulting braid out will be frizzier/fluffier.

5) Twist/braids that air dry naturally, as opposed to with a blow drier or under a hooded drier, tend to be more defined, softer and shinnier.

6) Braids tend to produce more defined results than twists.

ETA: Rule 7!!! I forgot the most important rule: The best defined braidouts are always done on damp or wet, detangled hair.
Here are pictures of my braid/twist outs as I learned how to produce more defined results:



You can see in the first braid out in 2007, which was actually my very first one, that the braids were slightly larger and my hair was slightly damp when I removed them. Thus, the braid out was much less defined than in the braidout in 03/08 when I started using shea butter and generally following the above rules.



The braidout above is done with small braids (I was trying out different styles); I wanted my braids to be very defined and I wanted my hair to hang and show a little more length.

This is generally what I do for really defined braid/twists outs. Sometimes I just use braids to stretch my own hair out a bit but not give much definition and when I do that I just basically do everything I said not to do to get my hair fluffier, curlier, and more afroesque. HTH!
 
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yodie

Well-Known Member
Re: Naturals, How do you eliminate frizz in your bantu knots or twist outs? please he

Ok yall, I'm crazy jealous that you all get great twistouts and I don't just yet. I think some type of butter is definitely missing from my regimen.
 

robot.

New Member
Re: Naturals, How do you eliminate frizz in your bantu knots or twist outs? please he

There's a youtube vlogger named prettydimples who twists her strands as she goes (if that makes sense) idk.HTH.

I thought that was how twists are done period. At least, that's how I learned. When I saw that video I was like, "Wait. People don't do that now?" :lol:
 

honeybuni84

New Member
Re: Naturals, How do you eliminate frizz in your bantu knots or twist outs? please he

I thought...maybe I shouldn't write that so many times, but then I remember when I was new here, I used no cones in one product but cones in the other and my hair came out with those white balls. I couldn't figure it out for months! :wallbash:

Hopefully,no one will make the same mistake I did.

(Hope I didn't sound bossy. I'm scared of the board, mommy...)

For no-cone shampoos - just about anything clear-ish. A lot of the creamier ones have them...not sure why, maybe for a little slip? I dunno. But you're avoiding sulfates too, so I really don't know. I hope to get to that place as well, but I have not yet found a product that I like and that works well for my hair.

I use Pantene's clarifier and Pantene's cassia shampoo...not sure what it's called. It rinses out so well!

Post pics when you do this so we can see...if you feel up to it.

Blessings,

cj



I am using the organix that is in walgreens.. my hair feels really good with using it... I was using that darn mango butter...:angry2:

hair all dry and I am wondering what was wrong...
 

Stella B.

Well-Known Member
Re: Naturals, How do you eliminate frizz in your bantu knots or twist outs? please he

Girl, I have been cone free for at least 8 months now, and my half relaxed, and half natural hair is still frizz city!! :lachen:I don't have much luck with braidouts, but I'm gonna keep experimenting, tho!! Thanks for the thread, it gives me hope and ...ideas!
 
Re: Naturals, How do you eliminate frizz in your bantu knots or twist outs? please he

the best way is to wait til your hair is absolutely dry, use the right product, and finger them with your favorite oil/butter as you take them loose :yep:
 
Re: Naturals, How do you eliminate frizz in your bantu knots or twist outs? please he

I am using the organix that is in walgreens.. my hair feels really good with using it... I was using that darn mango butter...:angry2:

hair all dry and I am wondering what was wrong...

elasta qp mango butter is EEEEEEEVILLLL :lachen:
 

yodie

Well-Known Member
Re: Naturals, How do you eliminate frizz in your bantu knots or twist outs? please he

Okay, I've been using Elasta QP mango butter. Time for a new product
 

yodie

Well-Known Member
Re: Naturals, How do you eliminate frizz in your bantu knots or twist outs? please he

I love your hair, the '07 styles and the longer styles. Did you twist out on wet hair or on dry hair?
In general my rules are:

1) The heavier the product used, the more defined the resulting twist/braid out will be. I get the best "defined" twist/braid outs when I use shea butter. The oils kind of sit on my hair in general and make my hair just feel greasy so I don't use them.

2) The longer the hair is left in braids/twist, the more defined the resulting twist/braid out will be. When I want a really defined braidout I will leave my hair in braids for a couple of days (wrapping it up with a cute hat or scarf).

3) The smaller the braids/twist, the more defined the resulting twist/braid out will be.

4) The dryer the braids/twist are when they are being unravelled, the more defined the resulting twist/braid out will be. This rule kind of goes hand in hand with rule 2, but is a standalone since even if you left your braids/twist in for several days, if they are at all damp or wet when you remove them the resulting braid out will be frizzier/fluffier.

5) Twist/braids that air dry naturally, as opposed to with a blow drier or under a hooded drier, tend to be more defined, softer and shinnier.

6) Braids tend to produce more defined results than twists.

ETA: Rule 7!!! I forgot the most important rule: The best defined braidouts are always done on damp or wet, detangled hair.
Here are pictures of my braid/twist outs as I learned how to produce more defined results:



You can see in the first braid out in 2007, which was actually my very first one, that the braids were slightly larger and my hair was slightly damp when I removed them. Thus, the braid out was much less defined than in the braidout in 03/08 when I started using shea butter and generally following the above rules.



The braidout above is done with small braids (I was trying out different styles); I wanted my braids to be very defined and I wanted my hair to hang and show a little more length.

This is generally what I do for really defined braid/twists outs. Sometimes I just use braids to stretch my own hair out a bit but not give much definition and when I do that I just basically do everything I said not to do to get my hair fluffier, curlier, and more afroesque. HTH!
 

yodie

Well-Known Member
Re: Naturals, How do you eliminate frizz in your bantu knots or twist outs? please he

You ladies have been so sweet to give me tips. I've been swamped and haven't really had the time to chat/post too much in this thread. I'm back today and hopefully you all can come back in and chat with me.

What I'd like:
I'd like to LEAVE HEAT ALONE for the next couple of months, but wearing twist outs and bantu knots, with the option of pressing my hair out every blue moon - if I choose.

I'm thinking:
I'd prefer to do my own twist outs/bantu knots, etc, but I don't know how to do them well enough to really rock it, ya know! I can definitely learn. I don't want to be dependent on stylist, but I don't mind going to one that will work with me.

So:
Figured I'd try someone who does twists and start off that way. I ONLY WANT MY OWN HAIR TWISTED. She says that because I've used heat on my hair before that MY OWN HAIR won't twist well. It will unravel overnight and I won't like it. She suggests I use fake hair and I don't want that. IS THIS TRUE? This happen to anyone? I understand that I'd need to redo my bantu's every night. That's fine.

Products:
I've only bantu'd with mango butter or a lil' castor oil. Is this where I'm going wrong? Sounds like you ladies primarily use shea butter. True? Are all shea butters created equal? Where do you buy your shea? What brand? I'm on a quest to pick up shea butter and vigorol curling creme this wknd.

Can I:
Twist/bantu on dry hair? Will my hair turn out frizz free if I apply shea butter (or vigorol curling cream - I wanna try this too) to dry hair?
 

yodie

Well-Known Member
Re: Naturals, How do you eliminate frizz in your bantu knots or twist outs? please he

My local CVS is crappy. They don't have anything.
Yodie,

Have you tried applying a curl cream before setting your twists/bantu knot sets? I ask because they can help keep the hair moisturized and frizz free. Also, be careful when uneraveling your twists. I always glaze my finger with an oil before untwisting my hair and before I finger style.

Here is a good inexpensive curl cream that you should be able to get @ your local CVS.

Vigorol Curling Cream:

http://www.beautyofnewyork.com/shopping/XG3Y130207KV0826.htm

HTH
 

MzJai

New Member
Re: Naturals, How do you eliminate frizz in your bantu knots or twist outs? please he

I don't have the regimen posted right now in my Picasa web album, but for DD, who has hair that is the most frizzy/curly hair I have ever encountered, I did the following:


  1. Wash and condition your way. Use whatever, but if your conditioner has cones, rinse it out EXTREMELY WELL!!! No-cone condish is the most fail-safe way to do this style properly.
  2. Gently towel dry.
  3. Wrap towel around neck to catch any dripping/protect clothing.
  4. Take section you intent to bantu knot or twist and spray lightly along it with a nice mix of cone-free conditioner and water...or whatever you use to mist. NO CONES, THOUGH!!! If you use a conditioner with cones, you'll get little white balls that make your hair look crazy. Rub down the entire section of hair.
  5. Lightly shea butter each section as well.
  6. Lastly, lightly (lightly) use gel along each section ....and then twist or bantu knot.
(It sounds like a lot, but it is not a lot. The prep for each section you twist or knot is under a minute.)

7. It takes about 45 in to do the entire head. Sit under dryer
until completely dry. This is important. Leave it alone until
its completely dry!!!
8. Take down carefully. Don't fluff a whole lot. Just gently
separate, though you can twist each section around your
finger (in the direction of the twist or knot) to encourage
more curliness.

You will remain frizz free - completely frizz free for the duration of this style. The light gel is the key. You can also use Fantasia IC Wrap Mouse if you want to. Make sure you put some moisturizing UNDER the gel so your hair comes out with great hold and defined but still soft.

Shampoo: any mostly clear, cone-free shampoo
Conditioner: any moisturizing cone-free conditioner.
Water-based moisturizer: in a spray bottle to keep hair damp while styling. Again, no cones!!!
Creamy moisturizer/butter: preferably a butter, but I am sure an oil like coconut, castor oil, or jojoba will work too. Just make sure to use a thick moisturizer because you want to "trap" moisture under the gel for the duration of the style.
Gel: Fantasia IC gel, or any other non-flaking, alcohol-free gel. I hear Eco Styler is great too. In a pinch, feel free to use a cone-free wrapping lotion. Fantasia makes a great wrap mousse!!
Dryer: Bonnet preferred to get good heat coverage and even drying, but I am sure any one will do.

Don't take down before dry or you WILL frizz.

The only maintenance is to re-twist or re-knot nightly if you're a wild sleeper. If you sleep neatly, put a neat bun on top of your head. Shorter hair, just satin-bonnet it.

I hope this helps. I do DD's hair like this all the time, and IT WORKS!!!

Next time I do her hair I will take pics and post here.

subscribing...

cj


I completely agree. The small amount of gel makes a big difference in my twist outs. I use Eco-styler along with my leave in ( TW shea butter leave in) and i detangle to avoid frizz at the ends.

I normally just put on a bonnet at night and spray with some infusim leave in and water in the morning. That dampens my hair a little and actually gives it a nice curl.

If you leave ur twist outs in a while like i do...to get a new look using an old style......wet your hair in the shower and put some conditioner in it GENTLY..rinse..apply some oil ( not cream ) and let it air dry....TALK ABOUT A WASH N GO! IT'S AMAZING!
 
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