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8 dead at Astroworld Fest/Travis Scott concert

Black Ambrosia

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I was halfway prepared to give him a pass thinking it was the fault of lax security but after hearing about him telling people to ignore security and storm the barricades and numerous incidents of people getting hurt in the past he's about 80% to blame IMO. Lock him up. Take away his funds. Say goodbye to your gold digging gf.

I feel for the families of the people who died. I know this wasn't a traditional concert but there's a general level of safety that's assumed at professional events like this.
 

Everything Zen

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^^^ That’s why I’m so upset over this. He’s not my cup of tea but I love live music and festivals and it was something I was looking forward to eventually easing my way back into. I know accidents happen but now :nono: although the last few years I strictly went VIP or private booths to avoid the proletariats and trash. Yes I’m being judgey and bougie and I shan’t be shamed for it.

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Black Ambrosia

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^^^ That’s why I’m so upset over this. He’s not my cup of tea but I love live music and festivals and it was something I was looking forward to eventually easing my way back into. I know accidents happen but now :nono: although the last few years I strictly went VIP or private booths to avoid the proletariats and trash. Yes I’m being judgey and bougie and I shan’t be shamed for it.

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I think this was more about the age of the concert goers, the artist, and lifestyle of the crowd. The article I posted says they don't know how much naloxone was used because the police, the medics, and ambulances were all administering it. There were over 80 ambulances BTW. They weren't just getting high. They were overdosing and doing it in large numbers. Idk what kind of festivals you normally go to but there's a reason you don't see this at events that attract a more mature crowd.
 

Everything Zen

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I had been going to Lollapalooza up until the past 6 years and I was at the metal festivals as far back as 2017 and all up in them mosh pits and on the rails and I would go by myself bc my guy isn’t into music like that and will lose his temper in those crowds. Someone died at one of those too being drunk and falling off of the top of one of the stadium seats SMDH.

But FR FR the kids have started to get on my nerves with their antics that most Chicagoans hide or leave the city during Lollapalooza weekend.
 

Theresamonet

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I think this was more about the age of the concert goers, the artist, and lifestyle of the crowd. The article I posted says they don't know how much naloxone was used because the police, the medics, and ambulances were all administering it. There were over 80 ambulances BTW. They weren't just getting high. They were overdosing and doing it in large numbers. Idk what kind of festivals you normally go to but there's a reason you don't see this at events that attract a more mature crowd.

There’s something about the drug reports that don’t make sense to me. How is it that such a large amount of people were getting high to the point of overdose, all while smashed together like sardines? And this mysterious person(s) going around injecting people with drugs, even security… I don’t believe it yet. It seems like a way to get the responsibility off of the event organizers.
 

Black Ambrosia

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There’s something about the drug reports that don’t make sense to me. How is it that such a large amount of people were getting high to the point of overdose, all while smashed together like sardines? And this mysterious person(s) going around injecting people with drugs, even security… I don’t believe it yet. It seems like a way to get the responsibility off of the event organizers.
It sounds off to me as well but I think the crushing and trampling might have something to do with it. A healthy person in the wrong spot would have issues. Someone taking drugs that's amping them up would be even more impaired.
 

KaciaLN12

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I was halfway prepared to give him a pass thinking it was the fault of lax security but after hearing about him telling people to ignore security and storm the barricades and numerous incidents of people getting hurt in the past he's about 80% to blame IMO. Lock him up. Take away his funds. Say goodbye to your gold digging gf.

I feel for the families of the people who died. I know this wasn't a traditional concert but there's a general level of safety that's assumed at professional events like this.
I agree with everything, but he’s the gold-digger here, not Kylie. He didn’t start getting really popular until he got with Kylie. He was and still is obviously using Kylie for clout. Sometimes I feel a bit sorry for her because she was so young getting with these older men looking for clout off her name.
 

Black Ambrosia

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I agree with everything, but he’s the gold-digger here, not Kylie. He didn’t start getting really popular until he got with Kylie. He was and still is obviously using Kylie for clout. Sometimes I feel a bit sorry for her because she was so young getting with these older men looking for clout off her name.
I'm biased against the family and believe it's coded into their DNA to find successful black men and attach themselves like leeches.
:lol:

She was young when she started but I somehow can't see allow myself to see her as a victim.
 

Everything Zen

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Black Ambrosia

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These people :angry2:

Even Kanye had better sense than this by dedicating his Sunday service to the victims.

Her sister really shouldn't be dragged down by this but since I don't like them I'm gonna KIM. Wouldn't it be something if this ended up bringing the whole family down?
 
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Black Ambrosia

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Apparently NRG Arena don’t know what :censored: they doing because the same thing happened at a PlayBoi Carti concert 2 weeks before but they had the good sense to shut it down when they saw the crowd surges.

I figured there had to be more to the story when I read the police chief expressed concerns before the concert. It focused on how people were coming from all over but didn't say anything about this happening recently at the same venue. Sounds like there are lots of factors.
 

naturalgyrl5199

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There’s something about the drug reports that don’t make sense to me. How is it that such a large amount of people were getting high to the point of overdose, all while smashed together like sardines? And this mysterious person(s) going around injecting people with drugs, even security… I don’t believe it yet. It seems like a way to get the responsibility off of the event organizers.
I found that to be SUS as well.
A girl posted a video where people were seen telling staff to get the people off the stage and that it wasn't safe.
 

Kanky

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This story is annoying me. Why are people who should be experts on crowd control and safety blaming everything on a rapper and his fans? The fire chief and the police and the people who own the venue are all pointing fingers at a dude with a high school education and questionable musical talent. He doesn’t know how to manage crowd control because that is not his area of expertise. He doesn’t know how much medical equipment should be on hand and how many paramedics are needed because that is not his area of expertise. What kind of fool puts the sicko mode guy in charge of health and safety? There are people paid with tax money who are responsible for this kind of thing. Travis Scott seems like trash to me and I doubt that he cares about the casualties at all. Still your safety should not be in the hands of a musician in the first place.

And people are giving the parents who took their kids to this a hard time. I am not one of those fun kind of parents, but at worst these kids should’ve heard bad language and seen some intoxicated people dancing. This event should not have been dangerous.
 

Theresamonet

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This story is annoying me. Why are people who should be experts on crowd control and safety blaming everything on a rapper and his fans? The fire chief and the police and the people who own the venue are all pointing fingers at a dude with a high school education and questionable musical talent. He doesn’t know how to manage crowd control because that is not his area of expertise. He doesn’t know how much medical equipment should be on hand and how many paramedics are needed because that is not his area of expertise. What kind of fool puts the sicko mode guy in charge of health and safety? There are people paid with tax money who are responsible for this kind of thing. Travis Scott seems like trash to me and I doubt that he cares about the casualties at all. Still your safety should not be in the hands of a musician in the first place.

And people are giving the parents who took their kids to this a hard time. I am not one of those fun kind of parents, but at worst these kids should’ve heard bad language and seen some intoxicated people dancing. This event should not have been dangerous.

I agree that he's not the only one responsible. I was annoyed at the statement from the police chief that he didn't think Travis and his team were taking safety seriously. He should have done something then! I don't understand why Travis seemed to have all the control. Why was he the one to decide when to end the event, etc? You are right, the venue or city officials should have stepped in. A lot of people dropped the ball here, which is why I think so much focus from the police is on the drug aspects of it. And why there seems to be a bit of a cover-up happening. People who were at the event are also saying that the death toll is being severely underreported.

Where I disagree, is that Travis is not just a rapper who happened to be performing at the time things went crazy. It's his festival/event. He (and live nation) is at the very least responsible for not having the proper people in place to manage crowd control. At most he's responsible for inciting the crowd to behave dangerously (storm the barricades, rush the stage, etc). He doesn't get to claim to just be a dumb rapper now. He doesn't get to be a businessman only when it's time to collect a check. The blame he's receiving is justified. Others just need to be held accountable as well.
 

Everything Zen

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This is terrible- but one of the first things that came to mind when I heard about this tragedy and Alec Baldwin’s :look: was salivating over the opportunity to present them as case studies for my beloved professor (I had never been taught by a black woman in my life and she was my everything) in my Master’s program as potential presentations for quality systems process improvements. This article explains why this is Travis’ fault because it’s his festival and the setup of the stages may have been a major part of the problem (which seemed to play to his ego) also the complete lack of professional safety with respect to concert management was a recipe for disaster. Professor Mason would never approve of Variety as a credible source but :lol: :

 
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