HappilyLiberal
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No she isn't. I told ya'll I give this a shelf-life of two weeks before AfroVedaGate became the new ShimaGate and we started seeing
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No she isn't. I told ya'll I give this a shelf-life of two weeks before AfroVedaGate became the new ShimaGate and we started seeing
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Neith
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No she isn't. I told ya'll I give this a shelf-life of two weeks before AfroVedaGate became the new ShimaGate and we started seeing
I personally don't see why it should get to that point...
Most people don't seem overly emotional about it. For example, I don't like this whole situation, but it's not like I'm foaming at the mouth.
Just because I express disapproval doesn't mean I'm about to crack some necks over conditioner or a (pretty much ruined) small hair care business.. Let's put it all into perspective now. lol
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@makeupvixen
No need to get defensive and deflective. She was just asking a simple question. And I think it is a legitimate one. If you are so anti-Afroveda (because of her shady practices) why would you continue to support her business, one way or another? I honestly was thinking the same thing. Me personally if a vendor was about to raise her prices by 100%, i wouldn't buy anymore product I would say FU.
Her formula is crap, this is common forum knowledge, so why are you surprised/outraged? It's like me buying a Hummer, and then complaining and being furious about the gas mileage.
Just because someone makes crappy products doesn't mean us as the consumer still need to buy them. That's why like chebaby said, it's important to research everything before buying it. Trust me I know, because I am such a PJ and need to be careful what I spend my money on, especially if the company is not as established. This is directed to everyone.
It's your money so you can do whatever you want with it, obviously. So what we say doesn't really matter at the end if the day.
I'm not trying to "fight among each other" because it's not that serious. I honestly am indifferent. But instead of being judgmental and coming up with her own opinions @chebaby just wanted to hear your side of the story.
makeupvixen
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My purchases were made prior to AfroVeda's scandal coming to light, September 2010. If i would have known that her products were pure crap, she had a loosey business, wack customer service, and was a 100% liar then I wouldn't have made the very first purchase in September 2010. Not that it should matter. what matters to me is why Mala can't make a consistent product and why she would charge so much for something that is (freshly discovered October 12, 2010 by my own eyes and not from random threads) that her product is crap.
BostonMaria
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I bought 3 jars of butters (assorted) last November. By the end of December 2 of them went bad and smelled like rotten eggs. I didn't get mad, but I chucked it up to experience and never ordered the butters again.
I prefer buying avocado and coffee butters and just using them straight out of the jar. Plus it lasts longer than buying these whipped butters from online vendors. I bought a jar of coffee butter 11 months ago and still have some left.
I prefer buying avocado and coffee butters and just using them straight out of the jar. Plus it lasts longer than buying these whipped butters from online vendors. I bought a jar of coffee butter 11 months ago and still have some left.
makeupvixen
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Where do you get your avocado butter from?
I use to get mine from Shea Essentials but they are always sold out.
Try Essential Wholesale - Soapmaking Supplies - Essential Oils - Cosmetic Bases - Craft Supplies - Aromatherapy - Organic Cosmetics, or do a search on Ebay. Another place that is good for oils is iHerb.com - Vitamins, Supplements & Natural Health Products. If you have a hand mixer and look up recipes on the internet, you can make yourself some nice hair butter. You can find explanations/recipes about what different ingredients do and how much to use. You don't have to guess, and with measuring cups and a kitchen scale you'll be good to go. Buying a few ingredients, some containers (also sold by a lot of these same vendors) can allow you to make a bigger batch of something nice for a good price. Don't leave out the preservatives or your creations will spoil (they are also available for sale).
Thanks to the internet, you don't have to guess at this and you don't have to rely on anyone's poorly made (or expensive but well-made) products. So many of these things are basically the same thing with a few tweaks.
Thanks to the internet, you don't have to guess at this and you don't have to rely on anyone's poorly made (or expensive but well-made) products. So many of these things are basically the same thing with a few tweaks.
BostonMaria
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I purchased mine from Camden Grey
Butters & Waxes | Camden Grey Essential Oils
I didn't like the mango butter or its consistency. It was too grainy for me. I loved the coffee butter (it does smell like coffee) and avocado. My next purchase will include orange butter and olive butter.
wavezncurlz
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Do you mix the butters or just use them straight out o fthe jar you purchased? Do you mind sharing what these butters remind you of (in terms of a product that you can buy from a vendor). I really hate having to find new products when I have found something that works well for me and my girls.
LittleLuxe
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Exactly. Folks are annoyed but this seems like pretty tame stuff, besides these threads are opening up discussions about bases, recipes and other helpful tips for women which is great.
Not everything should be a war, lol.
BostonMaria You may or may not know this, but seeing as this is the week to put folks on blast 
I thought that i'd mention that those 'exotic' butters are actually fake butters.
There really is no such thing as coffee butter, orange butter, green tea, hemp butter etc etc. I know this for a fact because I make and sell those 'butters' myself (I am honest with my clients about what they really are). Now, I won't reveal exactly how they are made (trade secret and alla that) however I can tell you that those exotic butters are man made by adding a very cheap filler to the oil (in this case roasted coffee oil), which solidifies the oil and is then marketed as a 'butter'.
So, basically, you are paying MORE for something which should in fact cost less. Lemme break it down using Camden Grey's jojoba butter as an example because they don't sell coffee oil.
1lb 100% Jojoba Oil = $11.50
1lb 70 % Jojoba Oil + cheap filler = $17.25
See, the imitation butter (which is actually 60-80% oil) is priced higher than the 100% oil, even though butter has been adulterated with a cheap filler. So essentially with these fake butters, you are paying MORE for LESS of the actual goodness.
IMO, unless one wants the oil in a solidified form, it makes absolutely no sense, to buy the fake butter version of the oil. You get more way more for less when you just buy the oil.
I would be willing to post a list of authentic butters vs. imitation butters, if anybody is interested.
I thought that i'd mention that those 'exotic' butters are actually fake butters. There really is no such thing as coffee butter, orange butter, green tea, hemp butter etc etc. I know this for a fact because I make and sell those 'butters' myself
(I am honest with my clients about what they really are). Now, I won't reveal exactly how they are made (trade secret and alla that) however I can tell you that those exotic butters are man made by adding a very cheap filler to the oil (in this case roasted coffee oil), which solidifies the oil and is then marketed as a 'butter'. So, basically, you are paying MORE for something which should in fact cost less. Lemme break it down using Camden Grey's jojoba butter as an example because they don't sell coffee oil.
1lb 100% Jojoba Oil = $11.50
1lb 70 % Jojoba Oil + cheap filler = $17.25
See, the imitation butter (which is actually 60-80% oil) is priced higher than the 100% oil, even though butter has been adulterated with a cheap filler. So essentially with these fake butters, you are paying MORE for LESS of the actual goodness.
IMO, unless one wants the oil in a solidified form, it makes absolutely no sense, to buy the fake butter version of the oil. You get more way more for less when you just buy the oil.
I would be willing to post a list of authentic butters vs. imitation butters, if anybody is interested.
Loves Harmony
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Kurlee
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Please post@BostonMaria You may or may not know this, but seeing as this is the week to put folks on blast
There really is no such thing as coffee butter, orange butter, green tea, hemp butter etc etc. I know this for a fact because I make and sell those 'butters' myself
So, basically, you are paying MORE for something which should in fact cost less. Lemme break it down using Camden Grey's jojoba butter as an example because they don't sell coffee oil.
1lb 100% Jojoba Oil = $11.50
1lb 70 % Jojoba Oil + cheap filler = $17.25
See, the imitation butter (which is actually 60-80% oil) is priced higher than the 100% oil, even though butter has been adulterated with a cheap filler. So essentially with these fake butters, you are paying MORE for LESS of the actual goodness.
IMO, unless one wants the oil in a solidified form, it makes absolutely no sense, to buy the fake butter version of the oil. You get more way more for less when you just buy the oil.
I would be willing to post a list of authentic butters vs. imitation butters, if anybody is interested.
Pompous Blue
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prettyinpurple
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It's my understanding that she didn't give her customers a heads-up about the price increase, and she's only responding b/c she has to say something at this point. Correct me if I'm wrong.
That is some poor business planning. Did she think no one would complain? At least no one would have been blindsided if she had sent a message BEFORE the price increase.
FYI: I have never purchased her products and won't be doing so now.
That is some poor business planning. Did she think no one would complain? At least no one would have been blindsided if she had sent a message BEFORE the price increase.
FYI: I have never purchased her products and won't be doing so now.
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tHENATuRALhAiRpRoJEcT
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BostonMaria You may or may not know this, but seeing as this is the week to put folks on blast
There really is no such thing as coffee butter, orange butter, green tea, hemp butter etc etc. I know this for a fact because I make and sell those 'butters' myself
So, basically, you are paying MORE for something which should in fact cost less. Lemme break it down using Camden Grey's jojoba butter as an example because they don't sell coffee oil.
1lb 100% Jojoba Oil = $11.50
1lb 70 % Jojoba Oil + cheap filler = $17.25
See, the imitation butter (which is actually 60-80% oil) is priced higher than the 100% oil, even though butter has been adulterated with a cheap filler. So essentially with these fake butters, you are paying MORE for LESS of the actual goodness.
IMO, unless one wants the oil in a solidified form, it makes absolutely no sense, to buy the fake butter version of the oil. You get more way more for less when you just buy the oil.
I would be willing to post a list of authentic butters vs. imitation butters, if anybody is interested.
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