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Another Mass Shooting. This One In El Paso, Tx

Discussion in 'News - Breaking News & Political Forum' started by SoniT, Aug 3, 2019.

  1. dicapr

    dicapr Well-Known Member

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    I’m sorry for the pain your family is having to endure due to this senseless act of cowardice.
     
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    As our nation mourns the senseless loss of life in El Paso, Texas and Dayton, Ohio and prays for the victims and their loved ones, we must also raise our voices in rejection of these heinous and cowardly acts of hate, terror and violence.
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    he is being roasted on Twitter and rightfully so. Her father is part of reason why these things are happening with increasing frequency. Her father stokes the fire of racial animosity then tries to back pedal when things get to hot.

     
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    @oneastrocurlie Wow, I am so sorry to hear this :snugglecouch: This country is in such a disgusting state. It’s infuriating. Wishing you and your family much strength and comfort.

    A factual mess.
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    Thank you all.
     
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    Ohio Republican blames mass shootings on ‘drag queen advocates,’ Colin Kaepernick and Obama
    Alex Horton
    In a laundry list of reasons why the United States is grappling with mass killings, an Ohio state lawmaker has settled on immigrants, same-sex marriage, transgender rights, disrespect toward veterans and “drag queen advocates.”

    Candice Keller, a Republican state representative from Middletown, near Dayton, Ohio, where nine people were killed early Sunday, offered her diagnosis on her personal Facebook page, the Dayton Daily News reported. Her post came only hours after the Dayton shooting, as the nation still reeled from the Saturday mass killing of 20 people in El Paso and the discovery of an anti-immigrant, white nationalist manifesto believed to have been written by that alleged gunman.

    Keller’s post sent shock waves through the state and local Republican Party, where there is a groundswell of calls from fellow conservatives urging her to resign, said Butler County Sheriff Richard K. Jones, who oversees law enforcement across Keller’s district.



    [The lives lost in Dayton]

    “It’s an embarrassment. It’s shameful. It does not reflect our party, our community, or the people who are hurting right now,” Jones told The Washington Post on Monday. “She only left out people who look like her.”

    The comments stunned the mustachioed, cigar-chomping, pro-Trump lawman who himself has taunted immigrants with billboards but has called for civility amid toxic partisan politics. Jones said he was worried Keller’s posting would have a chilling effect on future victims in the county who may believe police officers have similar notions. “She made our job that much more difficult in law enforcement,” he said.

    Jones declined to say who else in the county opposed Keller’s views but said there would soon be clearer signs of opposition within GOP ranks. He urged the national and state Republican Party to join the call for her resignation.

    Other Republicans distanced themselves from Keller.

    “Some want to politicize these events, and I cannot condone such comment and behavior,” Butler County GOP Executive Chairman Todd Hall said in a statement.

    Keller did not return a request for comment.

    Her list also included fatherless upbringing, violent video games and two arguments that conservatives have leveled at former NFL quarterback Colin Kaepernick — that kneeling protests over police brutality are insults to both law enforcement and veterans.

    Amid an apparent rise of domestic terror arrests, Keller did not include anything about white nationalism, an ideology President Trump condemned Monday; the availability of semiautomatic assault rifles and 100-round ammunition drumslike the one used in the Dayton killings; or how the alleged killer legally obtained a firearm after he was kicked out of a high school for writing a list of girls he wanted to kill.

    [Beto O’Rourke: Trump ‘is inciting racism and violence in this country’]

    Keller also blamed President Barack Obama for “disrespect to law enforcement,” along with Democratic lawmakers, public schools and “snowflakes, who can’t accept a duly-elected President.” Her post was later either removed from view or deleted.



    She has courted controversy before. At a 2018 gun rights rally a month after the Parkland high school killings, Keller saidthat a 15-year old survivor “would just as soon be eating Doritos and playing video games.”

    Butler County Democratic Party Chairman Brian Hester said that Keller is symbolic of a bigger problem of racist and vitriolic language, some of it modeled after Trump, passing as “acceptable political discourse.”

    It was especially offensive for Keller to say immigrants and LGBTQ acceptance played a role in mass shootings, Hester said. El Paso has a large immigrant community, and seven Mexican nationals were among the dead. The gay Orlando nightclub Pulse was targeted by a gunman who killed 49 people in 2016.



    “It’s almost as if she wants to blame the people being targeted in these attacks,” Hester said. But he stopped short of demanding Keller resign. “It’s time for voters to reject her,” he said.

    Jones, who wrote “Shame shame shame” in reference to Keller on Twitter, noted that Keller represents a diverse group of constituents across western Ohio.

    “Some of the people she talked about in her rant, those people work for me. They’re family members,” he said. “She assaulted all of them.”


     
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    :mad::mad::mad: I have no words for what I just read in the post above.
     
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    SO's brother lives in El Paso and one of my best friends lives in Dayton. My friend had just left the Oregon district when the shooting started. SO's brother was at home, or somewhere away from the Walmart. Too close to home.

    I am so sorry for your loss @oneastrocurlie.
     
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    President Obama's statement is a breath of fresh air. I miss having an articulate leader.
     
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    ^^ I miss the nation having a Compassionate leader.... that monster we have in office needs to be locked up. I'm wrestling with how Puerto Rico was quickly able to remove its president for doing the same thing Chump is doing...yet here we are. It only shows many in Congress really don't want him gone...just a bunch of talking in circles to let time go by....meanwhile, the people suffer. Well, they wanted a king...
     
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    The difference is PR was united in its disgust with the governor. There are too many people and politicians who think everything is just fine with trump.
     
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    This brother right here DROPS IT!

     
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    ^^Wow, he was on point!
     
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    Wow. That's it and that't all.
     
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    I was in tears while watching that LIVE yesterday!
     
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    Me too. It was incredibly powerful.
     
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    Nothing but facts.
     
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    Let the church say Amen!
     
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    True dat!


     
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    Deep!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He spoke nothing but TRUTH.
     
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    I’m familiar with the writer for he’s frequented CNN after such horrific events. Last evening on CNN he tried to explain what gets one to believe in the ideology and from what he expressed it’s multifaceted.

    In the article he speaks about the vast array of white nationalists. He spoke how they come from all walks of life. I believe therein lies the challenge of combating the ideology for it may expose supporters that will be very surprising.
     
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    I was about to post this article.. I believe him and I think people need to be prepared for anything... He's right.. there aren't checks and balances anywhere to counter the white-supremacist ideology, allowing it to become a force in mainstream USA...our head has been in the sand on this problem...smh

     
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    But there are good people on both sides.....:rolleyes:

    White people are scared that they are going to lose power and influence with the coming increase in the numbers of non white peoples. That feeling was always there but they weren't as concerned because they (the whites) had the numbers. Now that their population is decreasing, they are willing to do whatever it takes to remain in power. They are willing to make excuses for the most vile and inhumane acts as long as they remain in power. Trump can give wishy washy responses to terroristic acts and everyone agrees with him because they don't want to face the truth. Ever corner of society (government, law enforcement, etc) has been infiltrated by these white nationalists and to do something about the problem would mean turning their backs on family and friends.

    It remains to be seen how low white nationalists would have to go before whites actually turn against them.
     
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    Good can really only take one side... so long as people won't risk anything for the sake of losing anything, we'll be stuck in this rut. History has shown us that it takes sacrifices to make permanent changes for the greater good. We can't get around that and, white folks (and some blacks among them) aren't ready for that. The status quo is providing a good life for them, so they can't fathom it. There's a saying, white people will remind you of how black you are"..no matter how rich, educated or assimilated we become. If we are unfortunate to see an all-out race war, it'll be the only time these extremists will not discriminate... Bubba's not gonna stop shooting the black folks he see and say "oh, don't shoot that one, her daddy's white"

    Even though that CNN guy says that Trump is a manifestation of this underbelly of racism (which I agree with), I blame Trump for El Paso. He was obsessed with the border town and had been fanning the flames all along.. he now he must swallow hard and go down there to pretend to care ... so sad. He is the current leader. Just like Obama had been blamed for everything wrong that had manifested during his administrations, Trump should too. That's what good and effective leaders do.



     
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    Welp. Beto O’Rourke just called Trump a white supremacist. We all know he is but as a presidential candidate I thought O’Rourke wouldn’t go there.
     
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    I told the same thing to Dh today. I said how convenient that he isn't killed, it is election time, and the news and candidates are know saying white supremacy terrorists.
    This wasn't random. I hate how they don't care how many lives are lost l sacrificed or affected because of their agenda.
     
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