Discussion in 'Hair Care Tips & Product Review Discussion' started by dontspeakdefeat, Mar 24, 2009.
I'm definitely going to try this when I get to BSL.
I am a soft haired 4a/b 100% natural. I currently co-wash 2 - 3 days per week and shampoo D/C once per week. I'm in and around a lot of water...it just gets worse in the summer.
I am hoping this will be a good alternative to a relaxer.
Wow, after reading this thread for a while, I am definitely interested in trying this. It just sounds to good to be true though.
The unknowns have me concerned. I've read a couple of articles that say that even the formaldehyde-free versions may have formaldehyde.
I just say we have to be careful b/c whatever countries these products are made in, who's to say that even the product labels are truthful. If it isn't regulated by their government, they could be lying just to make their money, you know?
I'd rather risk the health of my hair with relaxers than risk the health of my body with the unknowns in this BKT.
I think I'd rather just get a good sew-in or rock a lace front until I have more info. It is taking a lot of self-will to keep from saving money to buy this stuff but I think I will wait/sit this one out for now.
Does anyone who has the BKT treatment use Megatek? If so, how? It sounds interesting but I'm wondering about protein overload with Keratin in both processes.
I personally use MT on my scalp. If I got the BKT and was wearing my hair straight more often, I would perhaps switch to an infused oil scalp treatment instead of the MT. That's just my thoughts for now. :scratchch
I use MT before i wash (usually 2xs per week, or once a week when my hair is straight). No ill effects so far (its been a year and i've had 3 treatments). just note, im transitioning so my roots (the only place i put the MT) are natural. I cant speak for the results if you use it root to tip - i dont see a reason you would need to use it like that if you have the BKT anyways.
Thanks. I was only planning to use it on my scalp. I'll start using it this way and see what happens.
That's why I posted an article in another thread from timeoutny. The paper tested various brands and found one in the safety limit. That's an independent reputable newspaper. If you do research you'll find the safe brands. We shouldn't let hype scare us, if we do the research necessary. Lasio studios actually sells this brand to other salons.
One available solution brand, Advanced Keratin Treatment, falls below the theoretically healthy limit of 0.2 percent. It’s distributed by Nadine Ramos, who owns the Lasio Studios Salon. Of the three distributors we spoke to, Ramos was the only one who continuously tests her product for formaldehyde levels. “Ask questions if you must do this"
naturaltobe has tried that one out and also posted her review.
Lasio Studios Salon (Ramos’s spot) 117 E 7th St between First Ave and Ave A (212-477-2088); $150–$500
naturaltobe got hers done at a salon in brooklyn that only charged like $75 bucks and she got the same brand of bkt.
In addition the free versions don't have it in there but may have aldehyde which if you research has a different chemical composition and is not as "troublesome". In addition, there are brands that use other things besides this. Also you have to realize that even Johnson and Johnson babywipes and even your home has formaldehyde in it. And funeral embalmers are around it all day and aren't dropping. The only person who really must worry is the person using it every day as they have to make sure the fumes are in a room with correct ventilation just as embalmers have to do. Even the article from timeout that I post mentions this as a cause of concern for the HAIRDRESSERS but not the clients.
You are only exposed, if you choose the formaldehyde versions, once every 3-5 months. You are exposed to other forms of formaldehyde in every thing from baby wipes, to pressed wood in your home, and carpet cleaners, and nailpolish, and some other cosmetics, and the list goes on and on...and it's on a DAILY basis.
There's really no reason for the hype w/ the exception of the story in Brazil where the woman had over 20 percent formaldehyde which caused her to suffocate (who wouldn't at those levels). She didn't die of cancer, she suffocated because of no ventilation and too large an amount of formaldehyde. The U.S would not allow anywhere near that amount, and even Brazil didn't but she asked for extreme amounts. If you do anything in extreme you're going to have a problem. Our measly .2 percent once every 3 months is nothing compared to the amounts we are bombarded with cumulatively on a daily basis.
Hmm, right now I can get my hair straight and it lasts for about 10-14 days using heat at 320F/160C so if that is what BKT would give me then I guess there's no need for it...hmmm...we shall see. Keep us posted ladies; I may try it yet.
I'm semi-interested in this treatment or its variants. Have no interest in the "white girl hair" someone mentioned earlier. My prime focus right now is to strengthen and thicken my strands and make them more elastic. Am going with henna/cassia for now, but plan to do some form of keratin treatment in the future.
With BKT, don't like the heat or the formaldehyde. I just hate the process of using heat, and my hair never seems to respond well to it. Also don't like the stick-straight look when treatment is first done.
I was thinking of Pravana. It is a chemical process that rearranges the bonds while adding the keratin, but if it works, that doesn't bother me, because I am not fighting for a place in the natural kingdom of heaven / hierarchy. My ideal would be to have hair that looks like my stretched natural hair, but had thicker, stronger strands and minimal tangling, shrinkage, and breakage. (Yeah, it's a dream, I know).
DSD: Have you ever used Pravana or researched it? I like that if you want to leave some curl in your hair, you can omit the flatironing part of the process
Pravana is not similar to BKT as you know it changes the structure of the hair. But also I posted this in another thread probably a month ago as I thought I should warn people. Maybe she had a bad reaction but here it is. I'll just copy and paste what I wrote previously in a Pravana thread:
Hey guys I'm just going to copy paste this. I realize now it's not for those who want to stay natural as a temporary, it's permanent, but it could have adverse effects. Here's what I pasted on another thread:
Did research about Pravana which is just like a relaxer and found this:
Fort Lauderdale, FL
|Report Abuse |Judge it! |#1234 Nov 22, 2008
My hair stylist put the Pravana straighten treatment in my hair in July 08 and told me that it was a Brazilian Kertain Treatment. Anyway shortly I found out on research of my own that it is NOT! I am of African American decent and the product did make my hair straight however I've lost ALOT of hair in long strands every day. As of today November 22, 2008 I have short pieces of hair sticking up all over my head. The hair lost per day is amazing to every hair stylist I show. I've tried every conditioner and is now using JOICO K-PAK Moisture and Reconstruct. I use the Kendra color-care sulfate free for the shampoo. Please anyone who has any advice I am willing to listen and try a way to stop or reverse the damage. I started with a head full of very thick hair now my head of hair is thin and the strands literally come out if you just grap and slightly pull my hair, it is totally depressing! I did try in the beginning the Pravana shampoo and conditioner. If you have any suggestions please email me at [email protected]
You guys' hair look great!
DSD, or others- Do you know if naturals have an issue with reversion? For instance, with hair reverting due to perspiration or humidity?
Thanks in advance~ I need this info ASAP!!
Hmmm. wow, luckiestdestiny, that doesn't look too promising. I was hoping it would be a gentle process. Like I said, the fact that it is a "chemical process" and rearranges the bonds in not important to me - all that's important is the state my hair is left in afterwards. So if after using a "chemical" my strands are strong and elastic, and don't look stick straight, then I'm a happy camper. But if the chemical makes my hair fall out, I'm running in the other direction.
Anyone with BKT had a problem with an ACV rinse making their hair rough and tangling it?
There is a BKT Support Thread where you may get this answer.
hmmm, never thought to do an ACV rinse. I use a natural shampoo with a ph of 5.5 and all of my conditioners, of course, have low ph. Never any tangling since bkt so I saw no need to try an ACV. Interesting...
u can go back and forth b/n straight and curly... just blow and flat iron for straight or wet-set for curls!
Agreed! That's what I do... except I'm not much of a straight rocker. I mostly PS so wet buns, wash n go's and braidouts for me. You can see my wash n go pics after my 3rd bkt in my fotki.